Re: App Store and Updating Apps

[Mike B.]

Hi Chris,

I've never configured Screentime, but I just went in and turned off Content 
and privacy restrictions.  In Touch ID and Passcodes these settings were all 
off, but your note about downloading apps using various Apple ID's 
definitely applies in my case.  Since everything checks out okay this must 
be the culprit.  Thank you very much for your input.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Chaffin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: App Store and Updating Apps




I have never had to enter a password to update an app.


After doing some research into this, I found out a couple of things.


For one person, they turned off screen time in settings, and this allowed 
them to then download app updates without having to enter their password.


I do not know if this setting is still there since I do not own an iPhone 
SE, but one person reported that going to settings, Touch ID, and turn off 
iTunes and Apps fixed their issue with updating apps.


I do not know if it will apply in your circumstance, but the biggest cause 
to this that I could find is when people had apps on their phone that was 
downloaded with multiple Apple IDs.


Wish I could have found a definite fix, but hopefully one of the above will 
help your issue.


Chris




  On Apr 24, 2024, at 2:47 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Hi All,

  Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 iphone.  I went to the App Store to check 
for updates and found that I had 16 updates available.  How can I set-up my 
phone so that I don't have to insert my password for updating apps?  I had 
to insert my password 4 different times to update these 16 items.  All input 
is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Re: App Store and Updating Apps

[Mike B.]

Hi Flor,

That's exactly what I did, double tapped the Update All option.  I was then 
prompted for the password, and 3 more times during the process and because 
there were 16 updates, I now see why I was prompted 4 times in total as per 
your explanation.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: App Store and Updating Apps


Choose the 'Update All' option as another member has suggested.





For individual updates, or for using Touch ID in general, Apple - for 
sercurity reasons, after the limit of four uses has been reached - requests 
that you input your Passcode (or your password) again to renew your touch ID 
count.





On 4/24/2024 7:47 PM, Mike B. wrote:

  Hi All,

  Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 iphone.  I went to the App Store to check 
for updates and found that I had 16 updates available.  How can I set-up my 
phone so that I don't have to insert my password for updating apps?  I had 
to insert my password 4 different times to update these 16 items.  All input 
is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Re: App Store and Updating Apps

[Mike B.]

Hi Kenny,

That's exactly what I did, but when it said update  16 available, I double 
tapped that, and I was asked for my password, then subsequently 3 more times 
after that during the downloading / installation process.
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- Original Message - 
From: Kenny Nead
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: App Store and Updating Apps


I go to app store, and at bottom of screen it says today, then top right of 
screen says my account, then I flick right several times past give password, 
and it will say update pu 5 or 6 however many you have, click on that then 
it update all,  this



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 2:47 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: App Store and Updating Apps



Hi All,



Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 iphone.  I went to the App Store to check 
for updates and found that I had 16 updates available.  How can I set-up my 
phone so that I don't have to insert my password for updating apps?  I had 
to insert my password 4 different times to update these 16 items.  All input 
is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!





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App Store and Updating Apps

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 iphone.  I went to the App Store to check 
for updates and found that I had 16 updates available.  How can I set-up my 
phone so that I don't have to insert my password for updating apps?  I had 
to insert my password 4 different times to update these 16 items.  All input 
is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Capital Letter Pitch Change?

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running iOS17.4.1 on an SE2022 iPhone.  Is it possible to adjust the amount 
of pitch for capital letters?  If so, how is this done?  Thanks much.

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Re: Forwarding iMessages

[Mike B]

Hi Flor, Bill, Robert and Joseph,

Yes, I can now find the forward button and forward messages using voiceover, 
but what I'm trying to do is learn what sighted people see to do what we do 
using gestures with voiceover for the same thing.  For example, my wife sees 
a, Plus sign, for the More button, and a right arrow for forward, but there 
were 84 text messages in this particular thread and I couldn't find how to 
select the ones I wanted to send.  We're going to start over on a much 
smaller thread when we get back home to make it easier.  Thank you all very 
much for all your help, it's greatly appreciated.  Now that y'all got me 
straightened out on forwarding with voiceover hopefully I can get my wife 
clear on how doing it with sight.  Thanks again.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool!  Go Dodgers!


- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2024 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Forwarding iMessages


Mike: You may have missed it the first time or two. When you have selected a 
message, and open More... there should be a Forward button at the bottom of 
the screen which you can double-tap to activate.





On 4/9/2024 10:00 PM, Mike B wrote:

  I opened, More, but didn't find forward.

  Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool!  Go Dodgers!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Doc Wright
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2024 12:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Forwarding iMessages


  So after opening the message you cannot flick up with one finger and find 
'more'?
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B
To: VIPhone
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 9:17 AM
Subject: Forwarding iMessages


Hi All,

Running iOS17.4.1 on an SE20022 iPhone.  My wife has several iMessages 
she wanted to forward to her niece, but we can't find the forward option to 
do this like a regular text message.  If this can be done, how does someone 
forward iMessages?  Thanks much.

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Re: Forwarding iMessages

[Mike B]

I opened, More, but didn't find forward.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool!  Go Dodgers!


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2024 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Forwarding iMessages


So after opening the message you cannot flick up with one finger and find 
'more'?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike B
  To: VIPhone
  Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 9:17 AM
  Subject: Forwarding iMessages


  Hi All,

  Running iOS17.4.1 on an SE20022 iPhone.  My wife has several iMessages she 
wanted to forward to her niece, but we can't find the forward option to do 
this like a regular text message.  If this can be done, how does someone 
forward iMessages?  Thanks much.

  Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool!  Go Dodgers!



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Forwarding iMessages

[Mike B]

Hi All,

Running iOS17.4.1 on an SE20022 iPhone.  My wife has several iMessages she 
wanted to forward to her niece, but we can't find the forward option to do 
this like a regular text message.  If this can be done, how does someone 
forward iMessages?  Thanks much.

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Re: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

[Mike B.]

Hi Alan,

Your idea works like a charm!  I've removed my prior  entries and replaced 
them with yours.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2024 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem


Mike,


I'm glad you came up with a workable solution. Would you mind indulging me 
and adding corp to your pronunciation dictionary with corpe as its 
substituted word? I'm just curious how your synth handles this and it will 
be a lot easier for you to check than for me to change my synth to test it. 
Thanks.


Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone


Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 1, 2024, at 6:44 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Hi All,

  Well I took a different route and instead of using Corporation in the Add 
field I inserted, Lab Corporation, and the replacement field I inserted, Lab
  Core, and now it's reading the way I want  it to.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike B.
  To: VIPhone
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2024 2:16 PM
  Subject: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem


  Hi All,

  Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 phone, and I can't get pronunciations to 
say, " Corp", instead of, "Corporation."

  I've tried inputting both words into the Add field and both words into the 
substitution field with all combinations, but I can't get Corp to be spoken 
in replacement of Corporation.

  Any ideas on how I can get this accomplished?  All input is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Re: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Well I took a different route and instead of using Corporation in the Add 
field I inserted, Lab Corporation, and the replacement field I inserted, Lab
Core, and now it's reading the way I want  it to.


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- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: VIPhone
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2024 2:16 PM
Subject: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem


Hi All,

Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 phone, and I can't get pronunciations to 
say, " Corp", instead of, "Corporation."

I've tried inputting both words into the Add field and both words into the 
substitution field with all combinations, but I can't get Corp to be spoken 
in replacement of Corporation.

Any ideas on how I can get this accomplished?  All input is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 phone, and I can't get pronunciations to 
say, " Corp", instead of, "Corporation."

I've tried inputting both words into the Add field and both words into the 
substitution field with all combinations, but I can't get Corp to be spoken 
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appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Re: T-Mobile Phone Number.

[Mike B.]

Did you take the phone out of the case, if it's in one?

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- Original Message - 
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 8:15 PM
Subject: RE: T-Mobile Phone Number.


Hi,



My phone is an XR so it is far from being a new phone, I’ve been told the 
Sem Tray on my phone is on the right side, but I still can’t feel it.

If the newer phones don’t have a Sem Tray, where does the Sem Card go on the 
newer phones?

I am not yet convinced removing the Sem Card from my phone will solve my 
issues.

Today I reset my Network settings, that did no good, with the advice from 
T-Mobile.

I am now waiting for my phone to charge, so I can download the iOS 17.4.1, 
as Apple said this will bring back my voice mail messages.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 9:00 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: T-Mobile Phone Number.



I just reviewe!

d this thread.



First off, newer phones don’t have a sim tray. My SE has a very small hole 
on the left side to eject the sim card.

There are time when a sim card can get corrupted and need replacing. And 
often the  diagnostic codes sent to the phone will disconnect the network 
briefly, so it would probably be best to go to a T-Mobile store if you don’t 
have a second cell line or more conventional phone.

HTH



  On Mar 22, 2024, at 7:14 PM, janet gross  
wrote:



  Richard,

  I just got off the phone with Apple.

  The rep who I talked to said she didn’t know anything about this, and she 
hasn’t heard anything about this before.

  I told her to check the Apple Community web site, and she did, and she did 
see what I was talking about.

  She also said because of this issue, Apple should be looking in to this, I 
told her T-Mobile is still waiting for Apple to return their call, as they 
reported this to Apple.

  Maybe this is just something new, I’m not sure.

  She did also tell me I should remove the Sim Card, and replace it back in, 
the same thing T-Mobile told me to do.

  She told me where the Sim Tray is, but I don’t know if I have anything 
around the house that small to push in the Sim Tray though.

  I don’t remember if I kept the box my phone came in, because she said 
there is a little pin that comes with the phones to use for the Sim  Tray, 
so I will have to look for that.

  Just thought  I would let you know.

  Another bug to deal with!  Ouch!



  Janet



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 5:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: T-Mobile Phone Number.



  I hope this isn't just another case of each company blaming the other, but 
... the simm tray is opened by pushing a tiny pin, end of a paperclip, or 
such, into the tiny hole on the left side of the phone, I think about 1/3 of 
the way from the bottom.

  I think.



  Richard, USA

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stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
get it.”

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On Mar 22, 2024, at 3:04 PM, janet gross  
wrote:



Richard,



I just now got a call back from T-Mobile, and they talked to Apple.

T-Mobile said they are waiting for Apple to call them back again to see 
what the fix for this issue is.

T-Mobile said Apple told them the work around for this is to remove the 
Sim card for about a minute, and insert the card back in the tray again, and 
all should be well.

I can’t seem to find the Sim card tray to remove the card.

T-Mobile said I could use maybe a earring to remove the card.

Do you know anything about this?

So, T-Mobile said everything is working fine on their end, and only 
Apple can correct this.



Janet

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: T-Mobile Phone Number.



Do you have the latest Be My Eyes? Check under service directory, 
technical, there is a way to call TMobile/Sprint in there. Might be worth a 
try.





Richard, USA

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stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth



My web site: https://www.turner42.com/















  On Mar 22, 2024, at 2:22 PM, janet gross  
wrote:

  

  Hello Everyone,

  Would someone who uses T-Mobile as their phone carrier give me a phone 
number to call them for tech support?

  I just called them, and the rep who I talked to said T-Mobile has been 
having a problem on their end regarding the same issue I am having.

  The rep also said he can set up my voice mail greeting, but I can do 
that myself, and he said he 

Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Mike B.]

Cool, that's what I was thinking, but I wanted to make sure.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 7:32 AM
Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone


Mike,

You just press your power button once to lock/sleep the device.









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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone



Hi Richard,



How do you lock one device to connect to another?  I've never ran into a 
problem like this, but would like to have a note about it in case I do. 
Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:50 PM

Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone



I don't know about the OPenFit, but both the OpenRun and OpenComm if you 
pair to two devices, you have to be sure and lock the device you are not 
using, then as soon as you start using the other device, it comes over the 
headset.
I've done that with my iPad and iPhone on those.
I would think the OPenFit should work the same.
But, should and does are often quite different.




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
 it.”
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

Does anyone on this list who has the open fit headphones have a full proof 
way of changing from one paired device to the other paired device, assuming 
you have two devices paired? I can’t do it. My iPhone just will not 
reconnect.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  
> wrote:
>
> You can also change the equalizer by pressing and holding both the volume 
> up and down button at the same time until the change is announced.
> Be sure to keep the box it came in as well as a copy of your receipt. I 
> too have the Open Run and have had other models throughout the years. I 
> love the bone conduction feature as it leaves my ears open. I'm one of 
> those blindies who loses all sense of direction if my ears are covered up. 
> Anyway... the reason I say to hold onto all your stuff for the headset is 
> that for every single version I've had, I have had to get a replacement 
> roughly a year after purchase. Getting a replacement thankfully is pretty 
> seamless and it's a generous 2 year warranty, but just something to keep 
> in mind. This really is the only gripe I have about the Shokz headsets.
>
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> A couple of days ago, I purchased a pair of the Open Run Pro bone 
> conducting Bluetooth headsets for use with my iPhone.
>
> I decided to buy a pair because I have a couple of friends who are using 
> the Open Run models and when talking to them, I cannot tell that they are 
> using a Bluetooth headset, the microphone quality is that good.
>
> I think they are absolutely amazing.
>
> What I did not discover until after purchasing is that, using the Shock 
> app for iOS, one can change the voice profile.  Kind of an E.Q. feature 
> that I absolutely love.
>
> The cost of this model is approximately 180 USD.
>
> In fact, I was so impressed with the Open Run Pro model that, just 2 days 
> later, I purchased the Open Fit model.
>
> With the Open Fit, you do not only have 4 preset sound profiles, from 
> which to choose, but you also have a full equalizer feature.
>
> The approximate cost of the Open Fit model is 130 USD.
>
> There are several differences between the Open Run Pr

Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard,

How do you lock one device to connect to another?  I've never ran into a 
problem like this, but would like to have a note about it in case I do. 
Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone


I don't know about the OPenFit, but both the OpenRun and OpenComm if you 
pair to two devices, you have to be sure and lock the device you are not 
using, then as soon as you start using the other device, it comes over the 
headset.
I've done that with my iPad and iPhone on those.
I would think the OPenFit should work the same.
But, should and does are often quite different.




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
 it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

Does anyone on this list who has the open fit headphones have a full proof 
way of changing from one paired device to the other paired device, assuming 
you have two devices paired? I can’t do it. My iPhone just will not 
reconnect.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  
> wrote:
>
> You can also change the equalizer by pressing and holding both the volume 
> up and down button at the same time until the change is announced.
> Be sure to keep the box it came in as well as a copy of your receipt. I 
> too have the Open Run and have had other models throughout the years. I 
> love the bone conduction feature as it leaves my ears open. I'm one of 
> those blindies who loses all sense of direction if my ears are covered up. 
> Anyway... the reason I say to hold onto all your stuff for the headset is 
> that for every single version I've had, I have had to get a replacement 
> roughly a year after purchase. Getting a replacement thankfully is pretty 
> seamless and it's a generous 2 year warranty, but just something to keep 
> in mind. This really is the only gripe I have about the Shokz headsets.
>
>
> Cristóbal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> A couple of days ago, I purchased a pair of the Open Run Pro bone 
> conducting Bluetooth headsets for use with my iPhone.
>
> I decided to buy a pair because I have a couple of friends who are using 
> the Open Run models and when talking to them, I cannot tell that they are 
> using a Bluetooth headset, the microphone quality is that good.
>
> I think they are absolutely amazing.
>
> What I did not discover until after purchasing is that, using the Shock 
> app for iOS, one can change the voice profile.  Kind of an E.Q. feature 
> that I absolutely love.
>
> The cost of this model is approximately 180 USD.
>
> In fact, I was so impressed with the Open Run Pro model that, just 2 days 
> later, I purchased the Open Fit model.
>
> With the Open Fit, you do not only have 4 preset sound profiles, from 
> which to choose, but you also have a full equalizer feature.
>
> The approximate cost of the Open Fit model is 130 USD.
>
> There are several differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit 
> model.
> 1.
> The Open Run Pro is bone conduction.
>
> 2.
> The Open Fit, while not sitting in the ear, uses sound waves to conduct 
> the sound.
>
> 3.
> Like Air Pods, the Open Fit can be worn on one ear at a time or on both 
> ears.
>
> 4.
> Unlike Air Pods, both the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit can switch between 
> Apple Watch and iPhone seamlessly as both models can connect to, two, 
> devices, simultaneously.
>
> You can purchase these models from Amazon or from Shock.com or, like me, 
> just go into your local Best Buy and grab a pair.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Talking Blood Pressure Machine

[Mike B.]

Contact Kevin of Kevin's Computers if you live in the United States.  Email 
and phone# below.  He had some on sale for $30 recently and they work well. 
Check to see if yhe has any more in stock.

Email:
n...@juno.com

Phone#:
1-801-765-4329

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From: llump...@austin.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Talking Blood Pressure Machine


I think dale at Blind Mice mart sells them. I think they're available at 
many of our vendors like Maxi aids or ls


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sylvester thomas III
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Blood Pressure Machine

Greetings All!
Wondered if any one knew where to buy a Talking blood pressure machine?
Also Maybe a link to it?
Thanks for reading and have a Great Sunday!

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Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard,

Did you ever solve your pairing issue with the OpenCom headset?  If so, what 
was the problem?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2024 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone


There is a standard Open Run by Shokz that was only $90.  My wife and I both 
got a pair when my OpenComm pair was acting like it wasn’t going to pair 
consistently any longer.

She got the smaller size, which works for her but she could use one that was 
a little smaller yet, though she really likes them.



I do not know what the difference is between the Open Run Pro and regular…











Richard, USA

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it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone



Thank you.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2024 8:10 AM

Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone



I am not Mark, but as far as I know the OpenRun has the round neckband 
similar to the OpenCom and some other older models whereas the OpenFit is 
two individual earbuds which sort of hang on your ears.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone



Hi Mark,



What are the differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open fit models in 
regards as to how you wear them?  I currently use the Aftershokz Trekz-Air 
headset and like the way it fits, sounds  and works.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 

From: M. Taylor

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2024 6:54 PM

Subject: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth 
Headphones for iPhone



Hello Everyone,

A couple of days ago, I purchased a pair of the Open Run Pro bone conducting
Bluetooth headsets for use with my iPhone.

I decided to buy a pair because I have a couple of friends who are using the
Open Run models and when talking to them, I cannot tell that they are using
a Bluetooth headset, the microphone quality is that good.

I think they are absolutely amazing.

What I did not discover until after purchasing is that, using the Shock app
for iOS, one can change the voice profile.  Kind of an E.Q. feature that I
absolutely love.

The cost of this model is approximately 180 USD.

In fact, I was so impressed with the Open Run Pro model that, just 2 days
later, I purchased the Open Fit model.

With the Open Fit, you do not only have 4 preset sound profiles, from which
to choose, but you also have a full equalizer feature.

The approximate cost of the Open Fit model is 130 USD.

There are several differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit
model.
1.
The Open Run Pro is bone conduction.

2.
The Open Fit, while not sitting in the ear, uses sound waves to conduct the
sound.

3.
Like Air Pods, the Open Fit can be worn on one ear at a time or on both
ears.

4.
Unlike Air Pods, both the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit can switch between
Apple Watch and iPhone seamlessly as both models can connect to, two,
devices, simultaneously.

You can purchase these models from Amazon or from Shock.com or, like me,
just go into your local Best Buy and grab a pair.

Mark


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Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Mike B.]

Thank you.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2024 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone


I am not Mark, but as far as I know the OpenRun has the round neckband 
similar to the OpenCom and some other older models whereas the OpenFit is 
two individual earbuds which sort of hang on your ears.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone



Hi Mark,



What are the differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open fit models in 
regards as to how you wear them?  I currently use the Aftershokz Trekz-Air 
headset and like the way it fits, sounds  and works.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 

From: M. Taylor

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2024 6:54 PM

Subject: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth 
Headphones for iPhone



Hello Everyone,

A couple of days ago, I purchased a pair of the Open Run Pro bone conducting
Bluetooth headsets for use with my iPhone.

I decided to buy a pair because I have a couple of friends who are using the
Open Run models and when talking to them, I cannot tell that they are using
a Bluetooth headset, the microphone quality is that good.

I think they are absolutely amazing.

What I did not discover until after purchasing is that, using the Shock app
for iOS, one can change the voice profile.  Kind of an E.Q. feature that I
absolutely love.

The cost of this model is approximately 180 USD.

In fact, I was so impressed with the Open Run Pro model that, just 2 days
later, I purchased the Open Fit model.

With the Open Fit, you do not only have 4 preset sound profiles, from which
to choose, but you also have a full equalizer feature.

The approximate cost of the Open Fit model is 130 USD.

There are several differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit
model.
1.
The Open Run Pro is bone conduction.

2.
The Open Fit, while not sitting in the ear, uses sound waves to conduct the
sound.

3.
Like Air Pods, the Open Fit can be worn on one ear at a time or on both
ears.

4.
Unlike Air Pods, both the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit can switch between
Apple Watch and iPhone seamlessly as both models can connect to, two,
devices, simultaneously.

You can purchase these models from Amazon or from Shock.com or, like me,
just go into your local Best Buy and grab a pair.

Mark


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Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Mike B.]

Hi Mark,

What are the differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open fit models in 
regards as to how you wear them?  I currently use the Aftershokz Trekz-Air 
headset and like the way it fits, sounds  and works.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2024 6:54 PM
Subject: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth 
Headphones for iPhone


Hello Everyone,

A couple of days ago, I purchased a pair of the Open Run Pro bone conducting
Bluetooth headsets for use with my iPhone.

I decided to buy a pair because I have a couple of friends who are using the
Open Run models and when talking to them, I cannot tell that they are using
a Bluetooth headset, the microphone quality is that good.

I think they are absolutely amazing.

What I did not discover until after purchasing is that, using the Shock app
for iOS, one can change the voice profile.  Kind of an E.Q. feature that I
absolutely love.

The cost of this model is approximately 180 USD.

In fact, I was so impressed with the Open Run Pro model that, just 2 days
later, I purchased the Open Fit model.

With the Open Fit, you do not only have 4 preset sound profiles, from which
to choose, but you also have a full equalizer feature.

The approximate cost of the Open Fit model is 130 USD.

There are several differences between the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit
model.
1.
The Open Run Pro is bone conduction.

2.
The Open Fit, while not sitting in the ear, uses sound waves to conduct the
sound.

3.
Like Air Pods, the Open Fit can be worn on one ear at a time or on both
ears.

4.
Unlike Air Pods, both the Open Run Pro and the Open Fit can switch between
Apple Watch and iPhone seamlessly as both models can connect to, two,
devices, simultaneously.

You can purchase these models from Amazon or from Shock.com or, like me,
just go into your local Best Buy and grab a pair.

Mark


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Re: Changing Default Photo Format

[Mike B.]

I hear you loud and clear.  I used to do alot of shooting in an indoor 
shooting range and and people that were beginners at reloading would come 
into the gun store thinking they knew what they were talking about and would 
ask for reloaded ammo, then when they wer handed a box of reloaded ammo they 
wanted to argue,  then get promptly educated on what they should be asking 
for.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2024 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Changing Default Photo Format


Yes, I guess in this case it’s a matter of semantics since when you go to 
Settings > Camera you are actually not opening the camera app but the 
Settings app.

When you said “I was opening the Camera from the Home Screen icon instead of 
opening the Camera app” I was a bit confused and I thought you meant the 
camera button on the lock screen and the camera icon on the home screen 
which is the same whereas adjusting camera related options in the Settings 
app is altogether a different story.

I get this all the time at my retail store, we sell outdoor and hunting 
equipment including firearms and ammunition as well as reloading supplies. 
We often get people who call and they ask “do you have bullets for a 30 odd 
6” or whatever caliber they have. I know that many more people buy factory 
loaded ammunition and not reloading components such as powder, bullets, 
brass and primers, but usually I then ask if they are looking for ammunition 
or bullets and some people get all mad because they think I’m trying to be 
smart whereas all I want to do is make sure I give them the correct 
information.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing Default Photo Format



Hi Sieghard,



Opening the camera from the home screen does not show the Format button.  I 
only get this when I open the Camera app in Settings.  I used Windows to try 
and view the .HEIc picture and didn't even check it with Windows 11.  Thank 
you for checking it in Windows 11 and verifying that Win11 will open a 
picture in .HEIC format, and convert it.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 05, 2024 10:33 AM

Subject: RE: Changing Default Photo Format



Opening the camera from the lock screen or the icon on the home page or from 
control centre is all the same.

As far as HEIC formatted images are concerned, they open just fine for me on 
my Windows 11 laptop in the Photos app.

It used to be you had to download the HEVC Video Extension from the 
Microsoft Store and maybe I have done this and don’t remember or maybe in 
Windows 11 Version 23H2 this is already included in the Photos app, but I 
did just try this and it worked and then in Photos if you wanted to convert 
to JPG, you can either press tab or shift + tab until you get to the “More 
app bar Button” and after activateing it select “Save As” or press Control + 
S and the Save As dialogue comes up. In the list of formats you can then 
select JPG and save your file with whatever name you want.

When I just tried this the picture in HEIC format I sent from my iPhone to 
Dropbox was 2093 Kb and the JPG was 2348 Kb, not a huge size difference, but 
more than 10% larger.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing Default Photo Format



Hi Rob,



Thank you very much.  Damn, I was opening the Camera from the Home Screen 
icon instead of opening the Camera app!  What a dumb ass!  LOL

Thanks again for getting my dumb ass to the right place!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 

From: Rob Armstrong

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2024 2:05 PM

Subject: RE: Changing Default Photo Format



Go to Settings > Camera > Formats.



Look under the Camera Capture heading.

Double-tap “Most compatible” to change the capture format from High 
efficiency to Most compatible.

Rob



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 4:39 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Changing Default Photo Format



Hi All,



Running iOS17.3 on an SE2022 iPhone.  My wife took a couple of pictures and 
sent to them to me to upload, but when I received them they were, .HEIC 
format, and I had to download a program to my PC to change the format to, 
.JPEG, before they seen on my PC.



So, how do we change the default photo format back to .JPEG?  I don't know 
when the format switched to this .HEIC format, but I do not like it at all. 
I opened the camera and didn't find the old format option.  Does anyone know 
how we can switch back to the .JPEG format?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mi

Re: Changing Default Photo Format

[Mike B.]

Hi Sieghard,

Opening the camera from the home screen does not show the Format button.  I 
only get this when I open the Camera app in Settings.  I used Windows to try 
and view the .HEIc picture and didn't even check it with Windows 11.  Thank 
you for checking it in Windows 11 and verifying that Win11 will open a 
picture in .HEIC format, and convert it.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2024 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: Changing Default Photo Format


Opening the camera from the lock screen or the icon on the home page or from 
control centre is all the same.

As far as HEIC formatted images are concerned, they open just fine for me on 
my Windows 11 laptop in the Photos app.

It used to be you had to download the HEVC Video Extension from the 
Microsoft Store and maybe I have done this and don’t remember or maybe in 
Windows 11 Version 23H2 this is already included in the Photos app, but I 
did just try this and it worked and then in Photos if you wanted to convert 
to JPG, you can either press tab or shift + tab until you get to the “More 
app bar Button” and after activateing it select “Save As” or press Control + 
S and the Save As dialogue comes up. In the list of formats you can then 
select JPG and save your file with whatever name you want.

When I just tried this the picture in HEIC format I sent from my iPhone to 
Dropbox was 2093 Kb and the JPG was 2348 Kb, not a huge size difference, but 
more than 10% larger.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing Default Photo Format



Hi Rob,



Thank you very much.  Damn, I was opening the Camera from the Home Screen 
icon instead of opening the Camera app!  What a dumb ass!  LOL

Thanks again for getting my dumb ass to the right place!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 

From: Rob Armstrong

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2024 2:05 PM

Subject: RE: Changing Default Photo Format



Go to Settings > Camera > Formats.



Look under the Camera Capture heading.

Double-tap “Most compatible” to change the capture format from High 
efficiency to Most compatible.

Rob



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 4:39 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Changing Default Photo Format



Hi All,



Running iOS17.3 on an SE2022 iPhone.  My wife took a couple of pictures and 
sent to them to me to upload, but when I received them they were, .HEIC 
format, and I had to download a program to my PC to change the format to, 
.JPEG, before they seen on my PC.



So, how do we change the default photo format back to .JPEG?  I don't know 
when the format switched to this .HEIC format, but I do not like it at all. 
I opened the camera and didn't find the old format option.  Does anyone know 
how we can switch back to the .JPEG format?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Re: Changing Default Photo Format

[Mike B.]

Hi Rob,

Thank you very much.  Damn, I was opening the Camera from the Home Screen 
icon instead of opening the Camera app!  What a dumb ass!  LOL
Thanks again for getting my dumb ass to the right place!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Armstrong
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2024 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: Changing Default Photo Format


Go to Settings > Camera > Formats.



Look under the Camera Capture heading.

Double-tap “Most compatible” to change the capture format from High 
efficiency to Most compatible.

Rob



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 4:39 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Changing Default Photo Format



Hi All,



Running iOS17.3 on an SE2022 iPhone.  My wife took a couple of pictures and 
sent to them to me to upload, but when I received them they were, .HEIC 
format, and I had to download a program to my PC to change the format to, 
.JPEG, before they seen on my PC.



So, how do we change the default photo format back to .JPEG?  I don't know 
when the format switched to this .HEIC format, but I do not like it at all. 
I opened the camera and didn't find the old format option.  Does anyone know 
how we can switch back to the .JPEG format?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Changing Default Photo Format

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running iOS17.3 on an SE2022 iPhone.  My wife took a couple of pictures and 
sent to them to me to upload, but when I received them they were, .HEIC 
format, and I had to download a program to my PC to change the format to, 
.JPEG, before they seen on my PC.

So, how do we change the default photo format back to .JPEG?  I don't know 
when the format switched to this .HEIC format, but I do not like it at all. 
I opened the camera and didn't find the old format option.  Does anyone know 
how we can switch back to the .JPEG format?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

[Mike B.]

Hi Tanja,

There's another called, Blind-T, and you can subscribe using the email 
address below.

blind-t+subscr...@groups.io

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2024 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list



  Thank you so much for the links. If someone knows about more groups which 
are of interest to blind / visually impaired people feel free to send them 
to me privately or here in the list so that I can subscribe to them AS well. 
Thank you so much!

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

[Mike B.]

No, It's gone, but the owner Mike Capelle did start a new group called 
BlindTechDiscuss.  The subscribe email is below.

blindtechdiscuss+subscr...@groups.io

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2024 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list


Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if 
there’s a page or other information about the list.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AM
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Subject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list



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please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many 
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all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to 
post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
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general questions about technology can be posted?
I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
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maria.orovcik...@gmail.com
Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
Thanks.
Maria

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Re: Emailing a Ring Doorbell Video File

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I figured out how to download and email the file.  I selected, Share, then I 
selected, More, then I selected, Email, then I sent the URL of the file to
my email address.  Also after selecting, Share, I noticed the download 
option, so I did that as well.

The problem was that the 2 dudes stepped back from the Ring Doorbell so 
listening to the file on the phone was kind of muffled, but listening to the 
file
on my computer I was able to jack the volume way up and found out it wasn't 
what we originally thought.  It was only some innocent chatter between the
2 dudes.  Thanks much.



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: VIPhone
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2024 4:55 PM
Subject: Emailing a Ring Doorbell Video File


Hi All,

On my wife's SE2022 iPhone she has the Ring Doorbell app and we had a couple 
of men ring the doorbell, step back a few steps so we couldn't hardly hear / 
understand what they're saying.  We can't get the volume on her phone to 
play loud enough and I would like to know if it's possible to send this 
video file via email to my computer so I can get more volume out of it?  If 
this is possible would someone tell me where to access the audio / video 
file and tell me how I can send it to  my computer to get a better listen to 
what these 2 dudes are talking about?  We have a funny feeling they might be 
casing the house, but we want to make sure before we alert the police.  All 
help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Emailing a Ring Doorbell Video File

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

On my wife's SE2022 iPhone she has the Ring Doorbell app and we had a couple 
of men ring the doorbell, step back a few steps so we couldn't hardly hear / 
understand what they're saying.  We can't get the volume on her phone to 
play loud enough and I would like to know if it's possible to send this 
video file via email to my computer so I can get more volume out of it?  If 
this is possible would someone tell me where to access the audio / video 
file and tell me how I can send it to  my computer to get a better listen to 
what these 2 dudes are talking about?  We have a funny feeling they might be 
casing the house, but we want to make sure before we alert the police.  All 
help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Rotor New Settings in iOS17

[Mike B.]

 Original Message
  From: Richard Turner

  This is likely the same in iOS 17.2... but has anyone else been bothered 
by the fact that the rotor, especially in the mail app, instead of 
defaulting to Actions, it defaults to headings? I find each time I open the 
mail app, and land on a message or thread, I have to change the rotor to 
actions in order to flick up to delete the message or thread.

   Richard, USA



  From: Sieghard Weitzel

Hmm, good point, I had not yet noticed this, but you are correct, in iOS 
17.3 Beta (not sure if this was already like that in iOS 17.2, you now have 
the following options when you go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > 
Rotor:


First of course the Back button at the top left and then the heading “Rotor”.

If you swipe right you then have “Rotor Items, button” and when you double 
tap on this you have the familiar list of things you can select, deselect 
and reorder.

If you swipe right again, you now have this new item called “”Change rotor 
with item, switch button” and of course it can be “On” r “Off”. Swipe right 
again and you hear the following description:

Changes the selected rotor based on the Voiceover focused item.

For me this was On, so maybe check if it is on or not and if it is not, turn 
it on and see if it gives you the more familiar experience.

And just to be complete, if you swipe right again, you get “Edit apps on 
home screen, switch button, on”, again it was on for me.

Swipe right one final time and you get “Direct Touch Apps, button” and after 
that the explanation:

Direct Touch allows Voiceover to control an app directly without requiring 
more interactions.

I have to yet try this, but if I double tap on the button it then says:

“Direct Touch apps, heading”, after this “Apply To, heading” and then it 
goes into a list of all apps and items on my iPhone and by default they all 
say “Selected” for me.



Then if I swipe right I

s

 Sieghard




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Re: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

[Mike B.]

This reply is from another list.
From: Diana Brent
To: idevi...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [iDevices] iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or 
Mac


We have it and use it all the time to transfer beg iPhone and PC. It works 
great. We haven’t had to use iTunes forever.


Diana Brent

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac


As far as I recall, being able to see the phone as a drive only allows you 
to save your photos off the phone onto a PC.
It doesn't back up anything else simply from that drive listing.
I've not used that app so I'm not sure if it has a way to pull off your 
installed apps and do all that stuff for back up along with the content.




Richard, USA

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it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
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  On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:21 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  I downloaded it to my Windows 7 computer and installed it, but I don't 
keep anything on my phone so there's nothing to transfer, except for my 
CoVid vaccination card picture.

  I haven't been able to access my iPhone from my Windows7 computer for 
quite a while now, but installing this program put my iPhone into my list of 
drives and I could open the Internal Storage folder and subfolders.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:01 PM
  Subject: RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac


  And have you confirmed as to whether it is accessible?



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 PM
  To: VIPhone 
  Subject: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac



  Hi All,



  I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds 
pretty good.  Have a look for yourselves.





  https://imazing.com/



  iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC



  iMazing
  Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.



  iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
messages, music, files and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.



  Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer 
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Re: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

[Mike B.]

I downloaded it to my Windows 7 computer and installed it, but I don't keep 
anything on my phone so there's nothing to transfer, except for my CoVid 
vaccination card picture.

I haven't been able to access my iPhone from my Windows7 computer for quite 
a while now, but installing this program put my iPhone into my list of 
drives and I could open the Internal Storage folder and subfolders.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac


And have you confirmed as to whether it is accessible?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac



Hi All,



I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds 
pretty good.  Have a look for yourselves.





https://imazing.com/



iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC



iMazing
Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.



iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
messages, music, files and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.



Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer 
capabilities, and much more with iMazing.





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iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds 
pretty good.  Have a look for yourselves.


https://imazing.com/

iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC

iMazing
Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.

iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
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Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer 
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Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Mike B.]

I have the same problem, but only after updating any iOS version beginning 
with iOS17...  After an iOS17 update my Voiceover switches from Siri voice 1 
United States to Siri voice 2 United States.

I've have to redownload Siri voice 1 United States and then switch to it 
after every iOS17 update so far.  Didn't have any problems like this with 
any earlier iOS versions.  It's not a big deal, just something different.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 11:38 PM
Subject: RE: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.


I use the North American Siri Voice 4 as my primary voice for Voiceover and 
this is not an issue at all. I wonder what causes this to happen for you.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Grant 
Downey
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.



Thanks for your email!



On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, 
while on the charger over night.

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Malcolm Parfitt
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

  For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my 
iPhone 15 Pro Max.

  For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This 
has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.

  If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the 
morning.

  Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.

  It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.

  I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum 
Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps 
we could now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger 
overnight?


  Any thoughts welcome.

  Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: IOS Keyboard Commands for iPhone

[Mike B.]

See if this helps:

Following is a list of key commands with a more detailed list of the 
function keys.

Logitech K380 bluetooth keyboard and iOS 16

Function keys:
Control keys:
FN Keys:
Option keys:
Net Quick navigation keys on:
Text Quick navigation keys off:
Text editing:
VO keys:

all latest V O commands: Settings/Accessibility/Voiceover/Commands/keyboard 
shortcuts

try out keys with iOS help, vo k esc esc to exit help.,

Function keys:
Escape
F1 F2 F3 connect to different devices with bluetooth.
F4  tap, exits app or goes to home top of screen one.
F4 press twice invokes app switcher
F4 press three times turns off/on voice over
F5 goes to first item of current screen.
F6not defined.
F7 appears same as F4
F8. previous audeo track.
F9 play pause
F10 not assigned
F11 mute/unmute
F12 volume down
insert / Speaker volume up
Delete key

Control keys:
 go to top of screen or top when inside app. same Four Finger Tap in
the upper part of the screen. control up arrow,
go to right bottom of screen music, or bottom when inside app.four finger 
tap lower screen. control down arrow,
go to screen bottom left phone. control right arrow
 mute/ unmute. control F11 or just F11

FN Keys:
copy, cut and paste.   fn plus c, x v,
lock screen. FN l
next heading. fn key h
search box. fn keyS
table. fn key T
take screen image. FN key plus tab
text field. fn key r

Option keys:
insert blank line in text. option enter. shift enter. just enter.
next page.  equivalent to three finger swipe left. option right arrow
previous page and today view. equivalent to three finger swipe right. option 
left arrow
spotlight from main screen. option up arrow

Net Quick navigation keys on:
turn On / off. VO Q
Single-key Quick Nav for web browsing. To navigate a webpage quickly, turn 
on Quick Nav (VO-Q), then press keys on the keyboard to navigate to specific
item types, such as headings or links. To move to the previous item, hold 
the Shift key as you press a key for the item type.
Item type
 Heading. H
Link. L
Text field. R
Button. B
Form control. C
 Image. I
 Table. T
Static text. S
ARIA landmark. W
List. X
Item of the same type. M
Level 1 6 heading. 1 2 3 4 5 6

Text Quick navigation keys off:
Use these following commands (with Quick Nav turned off) to work with text. 
VoiceOver reads the text as you move the insertion point.
Go forward or back one character. Right Arrow or Left Arrow
Go up or down one line. Up Arrow or Down Arrow

Go forward or back one word. Option-Right Arrow or Option-Left Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the paragraph. Option-Up Arrow or Option-Down 
Arrow
Go to the previous or next paragraph. Option-Up Arrow or Option-Down Arrow

Go to the beginning or end of the line. Command-Left Arrow or Command-right 
Arrow
Go to the top or bottom of the text field. Command-Up Arrow or Command-Down 
Arrow
Select all text. Command-A

 Select text as you move.Shift + any of the insertion point movement 
commands above

Copy, cut, or paste the selected text. Command-C, Command-X, or Command-V
Undo or redo last change. Command-Z or Shift-Command-Z

Text editing:

activate icon, button or text field. press up / down arrows together.  one 
finger double tap or VO space
next item same as flick right. right arrow
previous item same as flick left. left arrow
select rotor item within option: up/down arrow

VO keys:
activate icon. VO spacebar.
Change the label of the selected item. VO-/
change rotor item: VO command left/right arrow. also up arrow with 
left/right
Copy the last spoken text to the clipboard. VO-Shift-C
double tap and hold. VO shift m
help. VO k
Home. VO H

magic tap VO dash
Move Focus to the Status Bar. VO M
Move Focus to the notifications centre. VO m status bar then Option + up 
ARROW:
Move focus to the control centreVO m status bar then Option + down ARROW:
move to next / previous element. VO r/l arrow.
move to linked item. VO j
next previous  character V O shift right left arrow

read character VO c
read character phonetically VO c twice
read  from current position VO a
read from top VO b
read line. VO l
read row header VO r
read text style VO t
read word VO w
read word, spelling and  phonetically. press VO w more than once

text find. vo f
text next search result - VO g

screen curtain toggle. VO shift F12or three fingers three taps

show item choser. VO i

toggle mute VO s or control F11
toggle single letter quick nav. VO q
Voice over settings. VO V.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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From: Tom Cramer
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 4:15 PM
Subject: IOS Keyboard Commands for iPhone


Hello,
I have been trying to look for a complete, or at least, a
comprehensive list of Keyboard commands when using the iPhone. I have
a partial list, but I am looking for a full list. I have a Logitech
k380 keyboard that I'm using with my iPhone.
Any help?

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Re: Is this due to latest update

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard and Danny,

I think you meant to increase it to, .3, or, .35.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Is this due to latest update


It is. Try going to settings, accessibility,  VoiceOver, and at the bottom 
is double tap time out. Try increasing it to 3 or 3.5.



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  On Nov 28, 2023, at 11:16 AM, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:


  
  I’ve noticed, since latest update, my double tapping the screen doesn’t 
always get a response and will  sometimes trigger something other than what 
I’m focused on.  Second issue is that when I dictate a text message, using 
Siri, she will only read the first part of it back to me, then  after the 
microphone seems to go on and off, will finally read it all back.  Almost 
like she isn’t aware that I’ve completed my dictating.

  With these issues occurring after the update, I just wondered if this 
could be a factor?

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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Mike B.]

Thank you for the added info, it's good to know when shopping for a power 
bank.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms


I certainly wouldn't leave my Energrid power bank plugged in all the time. 
However, the Anker 733 is designed for that and stops charging the battery 
as soon as it's full. It doesn't even get warm. The only thing it won't do 
is act as an uninterruptable power supply. You'd have to push a small button 
to engage the battery if power failed.


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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:07 PM Mike B.  wrote:

  Hi Michael,

  I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could cause 
premature failure being that if it loses just a little bit of charge it's 
constantly recharging.  I normally check my power bank every so often and I 
won't charge it until it needs it, or we need to go somewhere and I want to 
make sure it's fully charged.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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  Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms


  Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN Prime 733 
which combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger in one handy device. 
I leave it plugged in all of the time so I know it'll be full when I need 
it. It has folding plug prongs which let you plug it directly into the wall 
socket or power bar. It has two USB C ports and a USB A port. You'd also 
need a Lightning to USBC cable which Anker makes.
  I also have a 2 MAH battery from Energrid. It gives audio beep 
feedback and vibrates to let you know when something's connected or when 
it's charging. Between those two batteries, I know I'm covered for a good 
eight or nine full iPhone charges. That'll see me through around three or 
four days. More if I'm conservative.
  If you're worried about longer spans of time, there are much bigger power 
banks. The two batteries I have are very portable and both will easily fit 
in a shoulderbag. Besides the USBC to Lightning cable, I would also suggest 
you get a spare USB C to USB C cable. That may be useful for other 
accessories like USB headsets, emergency radios or Bluetooth keyboards. You 
can always charge other power banks while you have electricity using the 
ports in the 733 charger. Hope that helps a bit. Amazon has a slight 
discount here in Canada on a number of Anker products. Doubtless, this is 
true in the US also. There are a very wide range of other bands and you'll 
hopefully hear from people more experienced with those as well.

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User
  
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  On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 3:25 PM Margaret Thomas  
wrote:

Hi, All:

Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my
iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a
techie and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes
etc. would have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently
heard about some models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable
and accessible sold by Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never
dealt with.

I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I
have an Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple product,
but if there is some way I could also connect either my Victor Reader
Stream 2 or VRS 3, that would be great.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Margaret

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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[Mike B.]

Hi Michael,

I wouldn't leave your power bank plugged in 24 / 7, it could cause premature 
failure being that if it loses just a little bit of charge it's constantly 
recharging.  I normally check my power bank every so often and I won't 
charge it until it needs it, or we need to go somewhere and I want to make 
sure it's fully charged.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms


Hello Margaret. I've really come to appreciate the Anker GAN Prime 733 which 
combines a 1 MAH power bank and wall charger in one handy device. I 
leave it plugged in all of the time so I know it'll be full when I need it. 
It has folding plug prongs which let you plug it directly into the wall 
socket or power bar. It has two USB C ports and a USB A port. You'd also 
need a Lightning to USBC cable which Anker makes.
I also have a 2 MAH battery from Energrid. It gives audio beep feedback 
and vibrates to let you know when something's connected or when it's 
charging. Between those two batteries, I know I'm covered for a good eight 
or nine full iPhone charges. That'll see me through around three or four 
days. More if I'm conservative.
If you're worried about longer spans of time, there are much bigger power 
banks. The two batteries I have are very portable and both will easily fit 
in a shoulderbag. Besides the USBC to Lightning cable, I would also suggest 
you get a spare USB C to USB C cable. That may be useful for other 
accessories like USB headsets, emergency radios or Bluetooth keyboards. You 
can always charge other power banks while you have electricity using the 
ports in the 733 charger. Hope that helps a bit. Amazon has a slight 
discount here in Canada on a number of Anker products. Doubtless, this is 
true in the US also. There are a very wide range of other bands and you'll 
hopefully hear from people more experienced with those as well.

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On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 3:25 PM Margaret Thomas  
wrote:

  Hi, All:

  Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my
  iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a
  techie and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes
  etc. would have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently
  heard about some models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable
  and accessible sold by Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never
  dealt with.

  I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I
  have an Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple product,
  but if there is some way I could also connect either my Victor Reader
  Stream 2 or VRS 3, that would be great.

  Any help would be greatly appreciated,

  Margaret

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Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Mike B.]

Hi Margaret,

If you've just updated to iOS17... restarting the phone helped both my 
wife's and my and my phone after updating with the double tap functionality.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem


Hi Margaret,

I seem to recall folks posting after the release of iOS 17 that the double 
tap time-out setting was changed to lower the speed needed to execute a 
double tap. The effect of this would require you to double tap faster in 
order for it to register.

Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and double tap time-out witch will 
be near the bottom of the screen. Mine was currently set to .25 seconds and 
I executed the increment button to make it .3 seconds which I like better 
since I don't have to double tap quite as fast. Play around with that 
setting to see if it helps you.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Margaret Thomas  
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Alan:
>
> Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices weren't 
> there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 item and I 
> was double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem is still here 
> and it might have been the problem earlier.  It took about a half dozen 
> tries for the phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the phone 2 years 
> ago yesterday and, as far as I know, I'm double tapping the same as I 
> always have and the phone has just gone nuts.
>
> Thanks ,
>
> Margaret
>
>
>> On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> Hi Margaret,
>> Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices 
>> here are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off
>> I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier 
>> instructions you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X 
>> so I expect I made a pig's breakfast of them.
>> I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if 
>> you are having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try 
>> changing the hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.
>> Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.
>> Alan Lemly .
>> Sent from my iPhone
 On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas  
 wrote:
>>>
>>> Good Afternoon:
>>>
>>> I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my 
>>> way through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having 
>>> with the update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am 
>>> having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for 
>>> and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right 
>>> now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri 
>>> responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something 
>>> to do with the new follow-up feature I think I heard about.
>>>
>>> The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I 
>>> may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new 
>>> info might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double 
>>> tapping since the update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping 
>>> thing first.  Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. 
>>> Siri?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>>
 On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
 James,
 For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can 
 go to Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri 
 instead of Siri and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier 
 versions of iOS.
 Alan Lemly
 Sent from my iPhone
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  
>> wrote:
>
> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any 
> thing accidently triggered Ciri.
>
> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day. 
> I always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never 
> noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast 
> because she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
>
> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any 
> version of IOS 17.
>
> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of 
> the worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
>
> Regards,
>
> James B
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>
> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if 
> your friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear 
> 

iOS17.1 and Getting the Old Sounds Back

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Here's an article from Top Tech Tidbits on getting your old sounds back in 
iOS17.1.

 How To Switch Back To The Old Notification Sounds On iPhone

In iOS 17, many of the default sounds for notifications, alarms and timers 
have been changed — but how do you get back the old sounds if you don't like 
the new ones? This article shows you how:

https://www.cultofmac.com/832040/get-old-notification-sounds-back-on-iphone/

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Re: Looking for a Setting in Notifications

[Mike B.]

Hi Evan,

Try opening Settings / Notifications / Messages, and in Messages you can 
turn off, Allow on the Locked screen, then swipe to the Locked Screen 
Appearance heading and take a look at these settings.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 11:40 AM
Subject: Looking for a Setting in Notifications


Hey Guys,

I'm having this problem, and I can't figure out which setting I need to
fix it.

I'm in this group with three other friends, and we text each other every
so often about whatever. Whenever I get a notification from any one of
them, my iPhone 12 unlocks and starts reading it. Even if I've just
locked the phone, if I get a notification even two seconds later, it
will unlock the phone and start reading it out loud. Even if it's just a
Like from one of them, it will unlock my phone and read it.

It didn't used to do that. It just started very recently. I don't know
whether it's something I've done, or whether the most recent update
changed something, but it's pretty annoying.

I've been through the Notification settings, and I can't seem to find
what I need in there. I don't want to turn them off completely, but I
only want them to show up when I unlock my phone.

What do I need to do?

Thanks much.

Evan


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Re: Wi-Fi Conections.

[Mike B.]

Hi Janet,

For some unexplicable reason 2 days ago  my iPhone wouldn't connect to our 
home Wifi no matter what I tried, so I reset the network settings and I 
haven't had a problem since.  When you reset only the network settings 
you'll only have to enter in your password after selecting your network, and 
in Settings / General / About / Name, you'll have rename your iPhone if it 
had a name earlier.

To reset your network open Settings / General and swipe to the, Transfer or 
reset iPhone heading, and keep swiping to the, Reset button, and open this, 
now swipe to, Reset network settings, and single finger double tap this and 
follow the prompts.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2023 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi Conections.


Hi Richard,

I’ve done exactly what you are saying here, several times, but the Wi-Fi 
just keeps losing connection!  I’ve never had this issue before either. 
This just came out of a clear blue sky!  I hate the thought of having to 
reset my network settings, but it looks like I might have to.



Janet



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi Conections.



Try turning wi-fi off on your phone.

Reboot the phone.

Turn it on again and then turn on Wi-Fi.



If that doesn't work, then probably trying just reset network settings could 
be the answer.



Also, make sure you are closer to the router perhaps?









Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



My web site: https://www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi Conections.



Hello All,

Ok now, I see the different opinions about my question Wi-Fi downloading vs 
cellular, so thank you all.  Ok, my next question is does anyone have any 
suggestions is how to correct my losing  Wi-Fi on my phone running iPhone XR 
16.6.1? It looks like I might have to reset my network settings for some 
stupid reason, in which no one knows why.  I have very good Wi-Fi download 
as well as upload, and all my other devices connected to Wi-Fi are all 
working fine except my phone.



Thank you all for any more suggestions!



Janet

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Email Notifications Now Working

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

After going through every setting possible and changing sounds, toggling 
settings off and on, what finally got my email notifications to play a sound 
and for Voiceover to report how many I was receiving,  was resolved by going 
to,
Settings / Mail app / Accounts / Fetch new data button / Fetch schedule and 
set this to every 15 minutes.

I previously had this Fetch schedule set on automatically.  We'll now see 
how long it keeps working.  Thanks to everyone for their input.

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Mail Notifications Not Being Reported

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Since updating to iOS17.0.2 on my SE2022 my mail notifications are not being 
reported.  I've been through  the mail and notification settings, toggled 
them on / off, reset the assigned sound, restarted the phone, and still 
nothing.  Is there anything else I can do other than report it to Apple 
Accessibility?  Thanks much.

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Re: Having trouble downloading, premium voices to my new SE.

[Mike B.]

Is it possible that your download speed is too slow / an ISP problems 
perhaps?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 2:07 PM
Subject: Having trouble downloading, premium voices to my new SE.


Hi, I am having trouble downloading the Australian and US premium voices to 
my new iPhone SE. I have reset my network settings and done a hard reset on 
the phone as well as various other things. I have an Apple accessibility 
support person helping me, has anyone had this problem? Any thoughts would 
be appreciated.




Kerry


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Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

[Mike B.]

Hi again,

I just found a, Recover all, button along the bottom, so find this and 
single finger double tap , then follow the prompts.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?


Hi Alison may,

Yes, open your Messages App  and swipe to the, Edit button, and single 
finger double tap, to open, now swipe to, Show recently deleted, and open 
this.  I can't give any more steps because I don't have any deleted messages 
to recover, but just swipe around and I believe you'll be able to figure it 
out.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:43 AM
Subject: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?


I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text 
with information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?


Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181


  On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:


  I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to 
charge at night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device 
reboot self.



On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the 
background for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used 
and the heat thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the 
update and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my 
device was abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes 
and then back on took carre of this.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 2:41 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6
Hi all
iPhone XR and iPad 6gen
Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.
No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not 
to the point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such 
behavior running 16.6
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Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

[Mike B.]

Hi Alison may,

Yes, open your Messages App  and swipe to the, Edit button, and single 
finger double tap, to open, now swipe to, Show recently deleted, and open 
this.  I can't give any more steps because I don't have any deleted messages 
to recover, but just swipe around and I believe you'll be able to figure it 
out.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Alison May
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:43 AM
Subject: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?


I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text 
with information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?


Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181


  On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:


  I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to 
charge at night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device 
reboot self.



On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the 
background for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used 
and the heat thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the 
update and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my 
device was abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes 
and then back on took carre of this.

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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 2:41 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

Hi all

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not 
to the point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such 
behavior running 16.6
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Re: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS

[Mike B.]

Give this a try:

Go to the contact  you want to delete, but don't open it or anything, only 
highlight / select it.
The easiest way is to do a single finger triple tap on the contact and you 
will find the Close context menu or delete button, or do a single finger 
double
tap and hold on the contact and you get the same options.  They're either 
Close context menu or Delete.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2023 11:24 AM
Subject: Contacts Editor for iPhone iOS 17 or Other Recent iOS


Because I inadvertently swept hundreds of unneeded entries from my Microsoft 
Outlook email account into my iPhone contact listings, I need to delete 
many, many contacts.



Is there a contact editor that will allow me to remove contacts from the 
contacts list screen? As far as I can determine, the only way to remove a 
contact in the native iOS is to open the  contact and move down to  the 
delete button. That’s pretty time consuming and I hope for a faster way.



I will appreciate any assistance.





Richard Petty

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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Mike B.]

I'm not sure what the default size is, but I had it at 100% and reduced it 
to 67% and now the System Haptic on / off button shows.  Thanks much.

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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


It is at the default. Since I am totally blind, I never activated the larger 
fonts under accessibility,  display and font size. But when I was teaching 
low-vision users they often needed to increase the font size and I ran into 
that issue. Also, folks who use the zoom feature under accessibility would 
experience that.






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  On Jun 22, 2023, at 4:19 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Richard,

  What do you have your font size set to?  Thanks much.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 3:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


  Mike,
  I'm glad that worked. Depending on font sizes and such, sometimes screens 
just don't scroll when you are just flicking right with one finger. But, 
I've found that the three finger swipe up always works.







  Richard, USA.
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On Jun 22, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Mike B.  wrote:



Richard,

Well I'll be damned!  LOL  I just tried your suggestion of swiping up 
with 3 fingers and the System Haptics on / off button and the explanation 
for this action are there!  I need to call Apple right now to let them no! 
Thank you so very much!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume you 
tried flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen.
Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share 
with you to figure out what is happening.
Good luck,







Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John 
Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com




  On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics folder is, Silent 
mode and the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for your reply.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


  At the bottom of that screen mine says:
  System Haptics on.


  I can toggle it on or off.







  Richard, USA.
  “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John 
Ruskin
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com




On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B.  
wrote:



Howdy All,

I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, Turn 
System Haptics on or off toggle button,
in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics

My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 iPhones, but have 
been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as near as we can 
figure.

I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've taken 
screen shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but before 
I reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is 
missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, 
could other settings be missing that we're not aware of?
All input regarding this issue is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Mike B.]

Richard,

What do you have your font size set to?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


Mike,
I'm glad that worked. Depending on font sizes and such, sometimes screens 
just don't scroll when you are just flicking right with one finger. But, 
I've found that the three finger swipe up always works.







Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com




  On Jun 22, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Richard,

  Well I'll be damned!  LOL  I just tried your suggestion of swiping up with 
3 fingers and the System Haptics on / off button and the explanation for 
this action are there!  I need to call Apple right now to let them no! 
Thank you so very much!

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


  That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume you tried 
flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen.
  Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share with 
you to figure out what is happening.
  Good luck,







  Richard, USA.
  “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com




On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B.  wrote:



  The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics folder is, Silent mode 
and the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for your reply.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


At the bottom of that screen mine says:
System Haptics on.


I can toggle it on or off.







Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John 
Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com




  On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Howdy All,

  I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, Turn System 
Haptics on or off toggle button,
  in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics

  My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 iPhones, but have 
been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as near as we can 
figure.

  I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've taken screen 
shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but before I 
reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is 
missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, 
could other settings be missing that we're not aware of?
  All input regarding this issue is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Mike B.]

Richard,

Well I'll be damned!  LOL  I just tried your suggestion of swiping up with 3 
fingers and the System Haptics on / off button and the explanation for this 
action are there!  I need to call Apple right now to let them no!  Thank you 
so very much!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume you tried 
flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen.
Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share with 
you to figure out what is happening.
Good luck,







Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com




  On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics folder is, Silent mode 
and the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for your reply.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


  At the bottom of that screen mine says:
  System Haptics on.


  I can toggle it on or off.







  Richard, USA.
  “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com




On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B.  wrote:



Howdy All,

I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, Turn System 
Haptics on or off toggle button,
in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics

My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 iPhones, but have 
been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as near as we can 
figure.

I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've taken screen 
shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but before I 
reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is 
missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, 
could other settings be missing that we're not aware of?
All input regarding this issue is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Mike B.]

Yes, I've been in contact with Apple and I just heard back from them a 
couple of minutes ago.  The Apple tech had sent screen shots to the 
engineers and today they said not to do anything wile they look at the 
screen shots.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume you tried 
flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen.
Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share with 
you to figure out what is happening.
Good luck,







Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com




  On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics folder is, Silent mode 
and the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for your reply.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


  At the bottom of that screen mine says:
  System Haptics on.


  I can toggle it on or off.







  Richard, USA.
  “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com




On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B.  wrote:



Howdy All,

I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, Turn System 
Haptics on or off toggle button,
in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics

My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 iPhones, but have 
been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as near as we can 
figure.

I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've taken screen 
shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but before I 
reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is 
missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, 
could other settings be missing that we're not aware of?
All input regarding this issue is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Mike B.]

  The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics folder is, Silent mode and 
the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for your reply.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


At the bottom of that screen mine says:
System Haptics on.


I can toggle it on or off.







Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com




  On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Howdy All,

  I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, Turn System 
Haptics on or off toggle button,
  in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics

  My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 iPhones, but have been 
missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as near as we can 
figure.

  I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've taken screen 
shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but before I 
reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is 
missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, 
could other settings be missing that we're not aware of?
  All input regarding this issue is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Mike B.]

Howdy All,

I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, Turn System 
Haptics on or off toggle button,
in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics

My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 iPhones, but have been 
missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as near as we can 
figure.

I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've taken screen shots 
of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but before I reinstall 
our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is missing this 
settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, could other 
settings be missing that we're not aware of?
All input regarding this issue is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the iOS 16 cycle

[Mike B.]

Sounds akin to an iOS Laurel and Hardy skit!  LOL  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal Muñoz
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of 
the iOS 16 cycle


Paraphrasing...
Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife.
Siri: what do you want to know about XXX
Me: I want to call my wife.
Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call?
Me: Yes, Call my wife.
Siri: Sorry Something went wrong.
I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still hot garbage 
all these years later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the 
iOS 16 cycle

Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining about 
the new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond 
appropriately. I was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months 
later, I’m still one of those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri never 
screws up. Open the App Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed 
that command. But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and 
many other open commands as often as not meet with some stupidity about what 
it found on the web or how it doesn’t think I have such an app, even though 
it has opened the app many times in the past. I thought it was supposed to 
have some kind of on device machine learning, which would help it 
disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. This must not be true, because its 
overall performance has maintained its low level, whereas on iOS 15, the 
very same Siri with the very same commands yields reasonable results almost 
all of the time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has not been fixed as far 
as I’m concerned. I can only hope they do better in iOS 17.

Sent from my iPhone

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Hable 1 and the SE2020

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Can anyone tell me if the Hable 1 will work with an SE2020 iPhone?  Thanks 
much.

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Re: Speaking bar?

[Mike B.]

Hi Kimberly,

 Go to Settings / Accessibility / Spoken Content and turn off 1 or both of, 
Speakn Selection, and or, Speak Screen.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 6:19 PM
Subject: Speaking bar?


Hello,

I just started noticing the “speaking baR” about a month ago or so.  What is 
this and so far I find it very annoying.How do I get rid of it or how is 
it useful?


Thanks,


Kim

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Re: Emailing a photo to someone from your iPhone?

[Mike B.]

Hi Dacia,

See if this note below for accessing attachments helps.

From: Richard Turner
Touch at the bottom right corner, or do a four finger tap at the bottom of 
the screen.

Then, flick left with one finger until you get passed the delete button I 
think it is that is the bottom left corner.  The next flick to the left 
should
put you on the attachment.

For whatever reason, it works best to start from the bottom and work back to 
the attachment.

Richard



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To: viphone
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:19 PM
Subject: Emailing a photo to someone from your iPhone?


I have an iPhone 13 and want to send someone an email the photo. I know how 
to go into my photo album and I know to choose the share option and then 
select the photo I want or rather flip those last two steps around. I choose 
the photo I want then I hit share, And I choose email. I type in the email 
address and any other information I want and then hit send. The person is 
using jaws and when they get the email they don’t see the photo and they don’t 
see any way to download in the attachment. Am I doing something wrong?
Dacia.

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Re: smart locks

[Mike B.]

Hi Kimberly,

Yes, I called the lock shop and talked to them.  Schlage is the brand they 
recommend as well, but I forget which model .  Thank you very much for your 
input.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Kimberly Gardner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2023 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: smart locks


Hi Mike,

Schlage is the brand we like but I don't remember the model. Just be
sure that the one you are looking at has a keypad not a touch screen.
They make both types. We dealt with a company called Dorr Locks
Direct. You might get the lock slightly cheaper from amazon, but this
company has excellent customer service. I called at one point and the
person seemed to really know what they were talking about and was very
helpful in getting me the right lock for my situation.

I hope this helps.

Kim

On 5/26/23, Mike B.  wrote:
> Hi Kimberly,
>
> Thank you very much.  What brand of smart locks do you use?
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kimberly Gardner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2023 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: smart locks
>
>
> The ones we have use double a batteries so as long as the batteries
> are good you can let yourself in via the keypad regardless of the
> state of the wifi. A physical key is also included in the box so
> failing everything else you can get in the old fashion way.
>
>
> On 5/26/23, Mike B.  wrote:
>> What all is involved with installing a smart lock?  I mean, does the lock
>> work off of Wifi and batteries?  Or, do wires need to be run for any of
>> its
>>
>> functionality?  Also, if it works of of Wifi and your internet happens to
>>
>> be
>>
>> out, does it then use a backup battery and some sort of button press code
>>
>> to
>>
>> access / open?  Thanks much.
>>
>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2023 7:17 AM
>> Subject: RE: smart locks
>>
>>
>> As Sarah said, you can assign a code to somebody you want to give access
>> to
>>
>> your home, e.g. maybe you are away and there is a problem and somebody
>> like
>>
>> a plumber or electrician has to get into your house. You can set up a
>> specific code for them and even set it up to only work on a specific day
>> between 8 AM and 5 PM. Same would work for somebody like a dog walker.
>> You
>> can also unlock and lock the door remotely so instead of giving somebody
>> a
>> code you might have a repair person coming, but you are at work. Just
>> tell
>> them to call you when they are at the door, then you can unlock for them.
>>
>> I
>>
>> use this all the time, we have a local person who does heavy, German
>> style
>> bread baked in a woodfired oven and she usually drops off for us, if she
>> is
>>
>> at the door she can call or ring our Ring video doorbell, I answer the
>> call
>>
>> or notification from the video doorbell and once I know it's her I unlock
>> the door, she puts the bread in the entry way and once she is out and the
>> door is closed I lock it again. It's super handy and I would never go
>> back
>> to a regular lock with key or even one with a keypad, but one which is
>> not
>> connected.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> janet
>>
>> gross
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: smart locks
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door
>> lock?
>>
>>
>>
>> Janet
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: smart locks
>>
>>
>>
>> Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the
>> help
>>
>> of Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: smart locks
>>
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage?
>>
>>   - Original Message -
>>
>>   From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>
>>

Re: smart locks

[Mike B.]

Hi Kimberly,

Thank you very much.  What brand of smart locks do you use?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Kimberly Gardner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2023 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: smart locks


The ones we have use double a batteries so as long as the batteries
are good you can let yourself in via the keypad regardless of the
state of the wifi. A physical key is also included in the box so
failing everything else you can get in the old fashion way.


On 5/26/23, Mike B.  wrote:
> What all is involved with installing a smart lock?  I mean, does the lock
> work off of Wifi and batteries?  Or, do wires need to be run for any of 
> its
>
> functionality?  Also, if it works of of Wifi and your internet happens to 
> be
>
> out, does it then use a backup battery and some sort of button press code 
> to
>
> access / open?  Thanks much.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2023 7:17 AM
> Subject: RE: smart locks
>
>
> As Sarah said, you can assign a code to somebody you want to give access 
> to
>
> your home, e.g. maybe you are away and there is a problem and somebody 
> like
>
> a plumber or electrician has to get into your house. You can set up a
> specific code for them and even set it up to only work on a specific day
> between 8 AM and 5 PM. Same would work for somebody like a dog walker. You
> can also unlock and lock the door remotely so instead of giving somebody a
> code you might have a repair person coming, but you are at work. Just tell
> them to call you when they are at the door, then you can unlock for them. 
> I
>
> use this all the time, we have a local person who does heavy, German style
> bread baked in a woodfired oven and she usually drops off for us, if she 
> is
>
> at the door she can call or ring our Ring video doorbell, I answer the 
> call
>
> or notification from the video doorbell and once I know it's her I unlock
> the door, she puts the bread in the entry way and once she is out and the
> door is closed I lock it again. It's super handy and I would never go back
> to a regular lock with key or even one with a keypad, but one which is not
> connected.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> janet
>
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: smart locks
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door
> lock?
>
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: smart locks
>
>
>
> Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the 
> help
>
> of Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: smart locks
>
>
>
> Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage?
>
>   - Original Message -
>
>   From: Sieghard Weitzel
>
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:38 PM
>
>   Subject: RE: smart locks
>
>
>
>   We also have a Schlage lock. I am just waiting for better availability 
> of
>
> the latest model here in Canada which is compatible with whatever Apple
> calls that new key technology. I think it's called the Encode Plus or
> something like that. I believe that one also has Matter support.
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> joseph hudson
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:24 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: smart locks
>
>
>
>   Hi Juan, I just installed the Schlage home smart locks. And they're 
> pretty
>
> accessible on iOS. However, the locks themselves are physical touch 
> screens
>
> for the keypad. That's why I have to use my smart phone. But I do come 
> with
>
> a physical key that you can use to unlock them.
>
>   Joseph Hudson
>
>
>
>   EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>
>   jhud7...@twc.com
>
>   Connect with me on zoom
>
>
>
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>
>
>
> On May 24, 2023, at 9:34 AM, 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I hope this email finds you all well.
>
>
>
> I wanted to know if any of you have installed smart locks in h

Re: smart locks

[Mike B.]

What all is involved with installing a smart lock?  I mean, does the lock 
work off of Wifi and batteries?  Or, do wires need to be run for any of its 
functionality?  Also, if it works of of Wifi and your internet happens to be 
out, does it then use a backup battery and some sort of button press code to 
access / open?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2023 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: smart locks


As Sarah said, you can assign a code to somebody you want to give access to 
your home, e.g. maybe you are away and there is a problem and somebody like 
a plumber or electrician has to get into your house. You can set up a 
specific code for them and even set it up to only work on a specific day 
between 8 AM and 5 PM. Same would work for somebody like a dog walker. You 
can also unlock and lock the door remotely so instead of giving somebody a 
code you might have a repair person coming, but you are at work. Just tell 
them to call you when they are at the door, then you can unlock for them. I 
use this all the time, we have a local person who does heavy, German style 
bread baked in a woodfired oven and she usually drops off for us, if she is 
at the door she can call or ring our Ring video doorbell, I answer the call 
or notification from the video doorbell and once I know it's her I unlock 
the door, she puts the bread in the entry way and once she is out and the 
door is closed I lock it again. It's super handy and I would never go back 
to a regular lock with key or even one with a keypad, but one which is not 
connected.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks



Hi All,

This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door 
lock?



Janet



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart locks



Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the help 
of Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart locks



Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage?

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:38 PM

  Subject: RE: smart locks



  We also have a Schlage lock. I am just waiting for better availability of 
the latest model here in Canada which is compatible with whatever Apple 
calls that new key technology. I think it's called the Encode Plus or 
something like that. I believe that one also has Matter support.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:24 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: smart locks



  Hi Juan, I just installed the Schlage home smart locks. And they're pretty 
accessible on iOS. However, the locks themselves are physical touch screens 
for the keypad. That's why I have to use my smart phone. But I do come with 
a physical key that you can use to unlock them.

  Joseph Hudson



  EmailFaceTime/iMessage

  jhud7...@twc.com

  Connect with me on zoom



  https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09



On May 24, 2023, at 9:34 AM,  
 wrote:



Hi All,



I hope this email finds you all well.



I wanted to know if any of you have installed smart locks in homes and 
what did you use?



I am looking for something accessible, with a physical keypad possible, 
or something accessible for entry.





Thanks in advance.



Juan



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Re: Haptic for the Home Button

[Mike B.]

An update to my issue.
Unfortunately a haptic cannot be used for the Home button to activate Siri, 
according to Apple support.  Also I have a corrupt Sounds and Haptics folder 
in the Settings app.  I'm missing a setting / Button called System Haptic 
that's supposed to be at the very bottom of the list and supposedly this is 
why I can't get a haptic to work for the Home button for anything.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Mike B.
To: VIPhone
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2023 5:51 AM
Subject: Haptic for the Home Button


Hi All,

I'm running iOS16.4.1 on an SE2022 iPhone.  I would like to turn the haptic 
vibration on for just the Home button so I can feel it when holding the home
button down for Siri.

When I go into Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Audio / Sounds & 
Haptics there are several options in here, but none of them are titled, Home 
button.  Can someone which of these options are specifically for the Home 
button?

All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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Haptic for the Home Button

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I'm running iOS16.4.1 on an SE2022 iPhone.  I would like to turn the haptic 
vibration on for just the Home button so I can feel it when holding the home
button down for Siri.

When I go into Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Audio / Sounds & 
Haptics there are several options in here, but none of them are titled, Home 
button.  Can someone which of these options are specifically for the Home 
button?

All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Re: How to find description section on youtube videos

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Hi Amy,

This I don't have an answer for, but I'd appreciate it if you would let me 
know when you find out.  Thanks much.
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Subject: How to find description section on youtube videos


Hello,

I am viewing a video on linking chat gpt with siri. I am instructed to use 
the description section to go to a link. How do I activate this section?

Thanks.




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Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I would like to thank every one for their input and opinions.  We did go 
with the eSIM cards and the transfer went relatively well.  Except for the 
lack of knowledge on the tech support's behalf.  This made things take a lot 
longer than necessary, but it's all over now.

Another question!  We're going to sell our SE2020's.  Since I've never done 
this before, do I sell the phones with the SIM cards left in them, or do I 
remove them and dispose of them?  Thanks much.

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Subject: RE: SIM Card vs eSIM Card


It is only a matter of time until SIM trays and physical SIM cards disappear 
entirely and it can't be soon enough for me. As long as there is a mechanism 
in lace which allows for transferring eSIMs not just between iPhones but 
also between iPhones and Android phones there is really no good reason for 
SIM cards. They might be very small, but manufacturing them, distributing 
them and all that takes up resources, there is packaging and eventually 
Billions of them end up in our landfills and oceans.
between

-Original Message-
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Arrigo
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 4:51 AM
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Subject: Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

I still much prefer a physical sim card, it’s much easier to transfer it 
between phones, especially if you use IOS and Android like I do. I think 
Apple removing the sim tray on the Iphone 14 was a mistake, that’s one 
reason I got the Iphone SE instead, I would

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>  My wife and I we'll be receiving our new SE2022 iPhones today.  Which 
> will be better, sticking with the physical SIM Cards, or switching to the, 
> eSIM card?
>  If we do any traveling it'll be only here in the United States and our 
> carrier is Spectrum.  So, since our carrier is nationwide this shouldn't 
> be any problem.  I'm throwing thi information in because this could matter 
> to someone that travels out of the country.
>  All input is welcome.  Thanks much.
>
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SIM Card vs eSIM Card

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Hi All,

My wife and I we'll be receiving our new SE2022 iPhones today.  Which will 
be better, sticking with the physical SIM Cards, or switching to the, eSIM 
card?

If we do any traveling it'll be only here in the United States and our 
carrier is Spectrum.  So, since our carrier is nationwide this shouldn't be 
any problem.  I'm throwing thi information in because this could matter to 
someone that travels out of the country.

All input is welcome.  Thanks much.

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Re: searching for Rita Howells iOS tips

[Mike B.]

Hi Dennis,

Below is a direct Dropbox download link with 240 some odd tutorials of hers 
in it.  They're in .TXT format.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h55a8anjtaxu404/Rita%27s%20iDevice%20Advice.zip?dl=1

I'll leave it up for 1 week.

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Hi, would anyone happen to have these?  If so could you please share?  I had 
them and accidently deleted them.  Thanks.


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Re: Smart Punctuation for Texting

[Mike B.]

Hi Gordon,

Thank you very much.  I knew I had ran across this setting somewhere, but I 
couldn't find a note about it and sure as hell didn't remember where the 
setting was.  LOL
I'll give it a try with a few test text messages and see how dictation 
responds.  Thanks again.

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Subject: Re: Smart Punctuation for Texting


I don't know if it's improved over the past couple of months, but it wasn't 
very effective back when I used it. It really made things look strange. If 
you want to give it a try, go to settings, general and keyboards. You'll 
find all that stuff if you keep flicking where it says dictation. If it 
doesn't work the way you want it to, be sure to turn it back off.


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  Hi All,

  I'm running iOS16.3.1 on an SE2020.  Where do I turn on, if it's possible, 
automatic punctuation so when I send a text message I don't have to tell 
Siri , period, question mark or new line when dictating a text message? 
Thanks mooy moocho.

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Smart Punctuation for Texting

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Hi All,

I'm running iOS16.3.1 on an SE2020.  Where do I turn on, if it's possible, 
automatic punctuation so when I send a text message I don't have to tell 
Siri , period, question mark or new line when dictating a text message? 
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Libby App for Local Library

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I heard about this app today called, Libby.  This app will connect you to 
your local library for various types of free reading material.  You can read 
about it and get the app using the link below.

https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/6103.htm

With Libby, you can borrow free ebooks, digital audiobooks, and magazines 
from your library. All you need is a library card.

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Re: Turning On / Subscribing to Apple Newsletters

[Mike B.]

Howdy All,

Okay I got off my lazy ass and found it!  LOL

Here you go
Open Settings and swipe to, Your name, Apple ID, iCloud, Media and 
purchases, and single finger double tap to open.

Swipe to, Name, phone numbers and Email button, and single finger double tap 
to open.
Note: you might have to enter a passcode to access the information in here.

Swipe to the heading, Subscriptions, and keep swiping to find what Apple 
emails you're subscribed to, or to subscribe to them, or unsubscribe from 
them.


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Subject: Turning On / Subscribing to Apple Newsletters


Hi All,

Where do I go on my SE2020 phone running iOS16.2 turn on the subscription 
for receiving Apple Newsletter emails?  Thanks much.


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Turning On / Subscribing to Apple Newsletters

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Hi All,

Where do I go on my SE2020 phone running iOS16.2 turn on the subscription 
for receiving Apple Newsletter emails?  Thanks much.


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Re: Siri command to reboot or shut down iPhone

[Mike B.]

Howdy,

You can't have Siri bring the power back on if your phone is turned off. 
She can't hear you , remember your phone is turned off!

You might check Amazon to see if they have a bluetoothe Ouija Board!  LOL 
LOL


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Hi, I am running the latest version of iOS and I have an SE 2020, I was able 
to get Siri to shut down my phone, but I was not able to get her to bring 
the power back on. Just curious if someone was able to do so and how they 
were able to do this?
Thanks very much.


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  On Jan 13, 2023, at 7:30 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


  
  Hi Sieghard,

  I am running IOS 16.2 on in iPhone 14 Pro. Both commands are working fine 
here.

  Best,



  Les



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  Hi,



  Could people who have iOS 16.2 or earlier check if they can still 
successfully ask Siri to restart or shut down their device?

  I am on iOS 16.3 public beta and this seems to have stopped working which 
is too bad because it was a handy command.



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Re: With iOS 16.2, continuous reading in emails or webpages is awful.

[Mike B.]

Hi Mary,

I don't know if this is possible but, is it possible to tell Voiceover to 
ignore graphics?  If this is possible just maybe it'll smooth out the 
reading experience.


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- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2023 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: With iOS 16.2, continuous reading in emails or webpages is 
awful.


It happens for me with Alex, which is my default voice for English. I’ve 
seen it on webpages. It seems to be caused by some graphic getting in the 
way, a graphic that would normally just be blown away and let’s move on. If 
I compare 15.2 or whatever it is on my old phone with Alex, and 16.2 with 
Alex, the reading is much better with 15.2 on a slower phone. I don’t have 
any specific links right now.


Sent from my iPhone


  On Jan 5, 2023, at 8:03 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:


  
  Oh, it happens for me with Alex. I'll try other voices and see if it still 
happens.

  Devin Prater
  r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com








  On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:02 AM Kelly Ford  wrote:

For me this issue is a constant when I use Eloquence.  For example, I 
can read only about three pages in a Kindle book before speech stops. Pretty 
much any news article I read or other content of more then a few paragraphs 
has the same happen.


If I don't use Eloquence, the problem of speech stopping goes away.


Kelly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: With iOS 16.2, continuous reading in emails or webpages is 
awful.

I have not noticed a change. There have been times for many versions 
when something in an article or web page stops VO.
Could you maybe give one or two links that demonstrate this behavior.
It has not happened often enough for me to be bothered by it, but if it 
is happening a lot; I would also send example links to Apple of course.







Richard, USA.
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  On Jan 5, 2023, at 4:02 AM, Devin Prater  
wrote:


  I have noticed this with my iPhone SE 2020

  Devin Prater


On Jan 4, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:



Ever since upgrading to iOS 16, I have noticed that continuous 
reading, invoked with the two finger swipe down, is really bad. I used to be 
able to read hugely long articles, but now it stops all the time. It seems 
to be triggered by stupid punctuation things like bullets, as if I care. 
Does anybody else notice this serious degradation in the ability to just 
read an article without all the nonsense stop and start. The point of 
continuous reading is, well, continuous reading. I have noticed this on an 
iPad mini six and my iPhone X r. It’s really seriously annoying.





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Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Mike B.]

Good morning Margaret,

I don't have Mentions on my rotor and I don't have it in Accessibility / 
Voiceover / Rotor either.  I don't have a clude as where or how you would 
remove it from the rotor.  I tried doing a couple of searches for removing 
the Mentions option from the rotor and only got some Youtube links, which I 
didn't listen to since they're usually done, for and by, sighted folks.
Hopefully another list member can help us both out with an answer>

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Subject: Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone


Hi, Mike:

The first part went fine, but I'm not finding mentions in settings,
accessibility, VoiceOver, rotor to delete mentions from the rotor.  Is
it somewhere else or am I not awake enough or...?

Thanks,

Margaret



On 1/1/2023 11:19 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi Margaret,
> Yes, turn group conversationing off.
> Yes, turn shared with you off. This has something to do with conten
> that is shared with you will also be shared with certain apps, whatever
> the hell that means!
> Yes, you can remove mentions from the rotor.
> Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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> Good Afternoon, All:
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me tame a couple things in the iPhone
> messages app that have been annoying me.
>
> When I finish composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or
> mentions or mentioned and one of these is in my rotor. My search so far
> shows that this seems to have something to do with group conversations
> and if I am mentioned. I do not participate in any group conversations.
>  Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off.
> Group conversationing is on. Am I correct that I want to turn it off?
> Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not
> thrilled about it. Could someone explain this better?
>
> One article I found says that Keep in mind that the notify me setting as
> off "will only be useful if you’ve already muted the group
> conversation." I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many
> unwanted message, so, at this point, don't see the need to mute.
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> To slim down the rotor, can I remove the mentions item?
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> Any help is much appreciated,
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> Margaret
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Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Mike B.]

Hi Margaret,

Yes, turn group conversationing off.

Yes, turn shared with you off.  This has something to do with conten that is 
shared with you will also be shared with certain apps, whatever the hell 
that means!

Yes, you can remove mentions from the rotor.


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Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2023 11:24 AM
Subject: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone


Good Afternoon, All:

I'm hoping someone can help me tame  a couple things in the iPhone
messages app that have been annoying me.

When I finish composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or
mentions or mentioned and one of these is in my rotor.  My search so far
shows that this seems to have something to do with group conversations
and if I am mentioned.  I do not participate in any group conversations.
  Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off.
Group conversationing is on.  Am I correct that I want to turn it off?
Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not
thrilled about it.  Could someone explain this better?

One article I found says that Keep in mind that the notify me setting as
off "will only be useful if you’ve already muted the group
conversation."  I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many
unwanted message, so, at this point,  don't see the need to mute.

To slim down the rotor, can I remove the mentions item?

Any help is much appreciated,

Margaret

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Re: when I try to send a message with Siri it calls the person in sted. is this a bug in ios 16.2?

[Mike B.]

Hi Mitch,

I had a similar problem when I first got my iPhone a few years ago.  Below 
is my question and the fix for the problem.  Hope this helps you as well.

Original Message
From: Mike B.
Hi All,
My wife & I received our SE model iPhones yesterday, & what a learning curve 
this is going to be!  I don't know what setting this is but, hopefully 
that's
all it is, a setting.  Let's say I ask Siri to open Cellular, well she calls 
someone like Johnson Photo from my address book instead.  If I ask Siri to
turn on Voiceover she'll call someone else.  Is this just a setting problem, 
or am I just flat out doing something wrong?!  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

From: Roger Crome
What it sounds like to me is that Siri is not turned on.   In iPhones prior 
to the 4S where SIRI was introduced, the command function of holding the 
home
button in would behave the same as what you are describing.You should go 
to settings and open SIRI and see if the switch is turned on.  If your phone
came with the latest IOS, SIRI will be in the main settings list.  If it has 
the prior IOS 9 version, you will have to open settings, then go to general
and open this and SIRI will be in this list.
Let me know if this works.  Either way, we'll figure it out.
Roger


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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 4:57 AM
Subject: when I try to send a message with Siri it calls the person in sted. 
is this a bug in ios 16.2?


Hi all when I try to send a text message using Siri instead of texting them 
it calls them in sted. If I say text who ever it calls them instead is this 
a bug in ios 16.2? from Mich.


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Re: Text Message Failed To Send, Message

[Mike B.]

Hi Shai,

Thank you and all others that replied.  Your input was greatly appreciated. 
What happened, which I found out later was our router needed a firmware 
update and until this update was installed our Wifi had been knocked out 
but, only for our iPhones and computers, it didn't effect our Echo devices 
at all, which I don't understand.

After Spectrum installed the firmware update and I rebooted / power cycled 
the modem / router everything was back to normal, for now anyways.

I had been having this text failing to send message appearing for several 
months and I can't tell which iOS version I started hearing this message 
with but, someone pointed out that the message could be from texting someone 
using an Android phone.  Since I don't text much at all, now I know to make 
note to whom I text to verify the texting iPhone vs Android suggestion.
Thanks again.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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From: Shai
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Text Message Failed To Send, Message


Hello,
I have not had this issue. I would try the following and then contact
your carrier if the below steps do not work:
1. Reset network settings in settings/general/reset; note, you will
need to have all wifi passwords handy as all wifi connections will be
lost upon this reset.
2. Restart your phone and then try to send a message.
3. Check for carrier settings update in settings/general/about, when
on that screen wait a few moments and you may be prompted for a
carrier settings update. If not and texts are still failing to send
proceed to next step.
4. Call your carrier; it could be that they may be having issues with
compatibility of 16.2 or issues to send text messages.

On 12/21/22, Mike B.  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Running iOS16.2 on an SE2020 iPhone.  Every time I send a text message, 
> and
>
> it doesn't matter whether I send by typing it  out or dictating and using
> Siri, I get a message in the Notification Center stating the message 
> failed
>
> to send when the message did indeed send.  Is this happening to anyone 
> else?
>
> Any input is appreciated.  Thanks much.
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Text Message Failed To Send, Message

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running iOS16.2 on an SE2020 iPhone.  Every time I send a text message, and 
it doesn't matter whether I send by typing it  out or dictating and using 
Siri, I get a message in the Notification Center stating the message failed 
to send when the message did indeed send.  Is this happening to anyone else? 
Any input is appreciated.  Thanks much.
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Re: Masculine Ordinal and Calendar Diagram Being Spoken

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Sorry folks, I'm resending since I butchered the first message.

I'm running iOS16.1.2 on an SE2020 phone and I'm getting the following 
spoken in my ADT Pulse app.

Weather, partly cloudy, 55 masculine ordinal degrees

How do I make Siri Male voice 1 speak only, degrees, for the above?  This 
voice never used to speak the masculine ordinal lingo before iOS16.


Also, when I swipe one more time here's what is reported,
Living room thermostat, current temperature 65 degrees button,  calendar, 
sign or diagram

The same voice never used to speak the calendar, sign and or diagram lingo 
before iOS16 either, and why does Siri voice speak degrees without the 
masculine ordinal in this dialog but not the prior dialog?.

I'm sure this is all related to iOS16 but, could I have turned something on 
or off that may have triggered this abnormal speaking?  If so what could it 
be?  All input is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.

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Masculine Ordinal and Calendar Diagram Being Spoken

[Mike B.]

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- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: BlindApples
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2022 9:31 AM
Subject: Masculine Ordinal and Calendar Diagram Being Spoken


Hi All,

I'm running iOS16.2 on an SE2020 phone and I'm getting the following spoken 
in my ADT Pulse app.

Weather, partly cloudy, 55 masculine ordinal degrees

How do I make Siri Male voice 1 speak only, degrees, for the above?  This 
voice never used to speak the masculine ordinal lingo before iOS16.


Also, when I swipe one more time here's what is reported,
Living room thermostat, current temperature 65 degrees button,  calendar, 
sign or diagram

The same voice never used to speak the calendar, sign and or diagram lingo 
before iOS16 either, and why does Siri voice speak degrees without the 
masculine ordinal in this dialog but not the prior dialog?.

I'm sure this is all related to iOS16 but, could I have turned something on 
or off that may have triggered this abnormal speaking?  If so what could it 
be?  All input is greatly appreciated and graciously accepted.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.

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Re: Vibration question revisited

[Mike B.]

Hi Paula,

Since I'm sending a reminder note to my self of Richard's suggestion, here's 
where Vibration is:

Open Settings / Accessibility / Touch and swipe to, Vibration, and a single 
finger double tap turns it on / off.


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From: Paula Jordan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 9:14 AM
Subject: Vibration question revisited


Hi all. I sent this message on Sunday but haven’t heard anything back. 
Sending it again hoping for an answer. It’s not a biggy, but I’d like to set 
vibration up without having the haptics. I’ve looked through settings and 
can’t find where to enable vibration. Probably a very basic question. 
Thanks, as always, for any help.

God bless!

Paula and the pups


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Re: Is this a potential security problem?

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Hi Christopher,

I've never heard of the Attention Awareness setting you mentioned.  Is this 
setting only available on some iPhones running iOS16, or is it available on 
all iPhones with all iOS versions?

Also, where can this setting be found?  Thanks mooy moocho.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Is this a potential security problem?


Plus attention awareness is on by default, so this person would have to know 
that blind people tend to turn attention awareness off and then be able to 
snatch your phone away from you without you knowing it to keep you from just 
turning your head. I guess technically touch ID also isn’t secure, since 
someone could hit you over the head and then press your finger print to the 
finger print sensor, which come to think of it, I see all the time when 
reading these spy novels.



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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is this a potential security problem?



My initial reaction was that you are being New York paranoid.

It is just as likely that a mugger could wack a blind person on the head, 
and put their finger on the device to unlock it if it has the home button.

I've never heard of either thing happening anywhere.

And, good luck to the thief who knows nothing about VoiceOver doing anything 
with the phone. Which leads me to my personal approach. The screen curtain 
is always on unless I need a sighted person's help, or want to show them 
something. So, again, good luck to the person who could use face ID to 
unlock my phone only to find a blank screen and something jabbering at them.

Also, if you are holding your phone out in front of you, rather than wearing 
it in a harness for orientation or directions, you are putting yourself more 
at risk.









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  On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:20 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

  Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their 
phones stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the mugger 
from snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, and unlocking 
it with Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with an unlocked phone and 
access to all the information contained therein? If a visually impaired 
person loses their phone, this is not an unlikely scenario as the mugger can 
take the device and just wait around and follow the visually impaired person 
without them knowing it, then, when the time is right, whip out the phone 
and get it unlocked without the owner ever even knowing it happened. Might 
it not be a bad idea to disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being 
New York paranoid?

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Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

[Mike B.]

Tried that and no go.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared 
up


after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find 
it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.
Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better 
attempts at a feature.







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  On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple 
of apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.

  But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! 
LOL  LOL



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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
  Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up


  First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked 
about until iOS 15.



  To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.

  If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.



  I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure 
enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings.

  When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the 
phone before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that 
is what I did.



  My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick 
settings.  There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick 
Settings instead of in the Rotor.



  Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple 
tap.  It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional 
about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate 
when you wanted to jump by headings, etc.



  You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure 
out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen 
Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you 
want it to default to on.



  HTH,

  Richard, USA.

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it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Mike B.]

Cool, thanks for this tip.


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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


You can also do the double tap and hold on the move X app and slide down or 
up and if you go slowly, it will tell you which app you have moved it above 
or below.

You only have the height of the screen to move with good info, but you can 
end up moving it all the way to the top or bottom pretty easily.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor



Hi James,



Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not 
where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple 
tap.



So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings 
swipe to the feature you want to move.  Let's use, Activities, as an 
example.



Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more 
time to, reorder Activities.  Here do a single finger swipe up to either 
move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap.



It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation 
from Voiceover of it's action.  Any of these items can be moved in the same 
way from it's reorder... option.  Now close out and using the 2 finger 
quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features 
are arranged the way you want them.









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From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM

Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor



Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO 
settings, it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A 
double magic tap., so to speak.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Then, how do you use Quick Settings?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
> not the Rotor
>
> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way 
> down to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen 
> Recognition in there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset. 
> Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings 
> instead.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>
>
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Mike:
>
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I 
> am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
>
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Mike B.]

Hi James,

Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not 
where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple 
tap.

So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings 
swipe to the feature you want to move.  Let's use, Activities, as an 
example.

Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more 
time to, reorder Activities.  Here do a single finger swipe up to either 
move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap.

It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation 
from Voiceover of it's action.  Any of these items can be moved in the same 
way from it's reorder... option.  Now close out and using the 2 finger 
quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features 
are arranged the way you want them.




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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


Can I reorder these VO quick settings?  If so, how?

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor

If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO 
settings, it will tell you.  I’ll tell you though. 

You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers.  A 
double magic tap., so to speak.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Then, how do you use Quick Settings?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
> not the Rotor
>
> If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way 
> down to the end, you will see quick settings.  You will find Screen 
> Recognition in there.  Only a few things are selected at the outset. 
> Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings 
> instead.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>
>
>On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Mike:
>
>Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I 
> am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
>
>
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Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

[Mike B.]

I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple 
of apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.

But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! 
LOL  LOL



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up


First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked 
about until iOS 15.



To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.

If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.



I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, 
it disappeared from Quick Settings.

When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone 
before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that is what 
I did.



My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. 
There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings 
instead of in the Rotor.



Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple 
tap.  It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional 
about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate 
when you wanted to jump by headings, etc.



You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out 
it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition 
and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to 
default to on.



HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Mike B.]

Hi Holly,

According to Apple Accessibility or, at least the person I talked to, if I 
were to update to iOS16 that would solve the problem but, apparently not. 
Maybe this only happens with certain model phones?  I would be curious to 
find out what they would say to someone running iOS16 on an SE2020 phone. 
Well, I'll wait and see what happens.  Thanks for the input.


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- Original Message - 
From: Holly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


Mike:

Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am 
running 16.02 on a SE 2020.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard,

I listened to the podcast this morning but, he doesn't answer the question I 
was asking.  I've since talked to Apple Accessibility and I posted their 
answer earlier.


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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


Well, I wish I knew.
Thomas Donnville does a podcast about it on AppleVis.com.
I do not remember having to add it to quick settings.
How to Configure and Use VoiceOver Quick Settings on iOS
scribd.com












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  On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Hi Richard,

  I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick 
Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
  Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor


  After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
in Quick Settings.

  The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

  Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

  This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
may be useful.

  To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting 
you want to enable and do a one finger double tap.



  HTH,

  Richard, USA.

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Mike B.]

Okay, I called Apple accessibility and they said that the Screen Recognition 
feature isn't showing in Voiceover / Quick Settings because I'm not running 
iOS16...

They didn't explain why or why not but, all they said was that it wouldn't 
as well as other features like Screen Recognition won't show in Voiceover / 
Quick Settings to ve selected or unselected until an individual has updated 
to iOS16..., it was an update feature that came along with iOS16.


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- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, 
not the Rotor


Hi Richard,

I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick 
Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor


After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
in Quick Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
may be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.



HTH,

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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard,

I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick 
Settings?  It's not in Quick Settings to turn on.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor


After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition 
accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it 
in Quick Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it 
may be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.



HTH,

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Re: Sending Money with the PayPal App

[Mike B.]

That's the problem, last night it wouldn't go passed 75 whether I tried 
typing the decimal point or not.  Last night was the first time I've 
attempted using the app so I don't if that had anything to do with or not 
but, all I can say is I tried everything suggested last night without 
success but,today it worked go figure.


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From: curmudgeon
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Sending Money with the PayPal App


if you typed in another zero, it would've told you $7.50 and if you typed it 
a second zero it would've told you $75. That's how most of the money works 
when I do my any of my banking on checking or credit cards.



On Oct 2, 2022, at 3:37 PM, Mike B.  wrote:



I tried and it wouldn't go passed the 75 cents.


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- Original Message - 
From: Rob Armstrong
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: Sending Money with the PayPal App


Just keep entering the digits you want without entering a decimal point. 
For example, if you want to enter $75.50 you just enter 7550 and the app 
will move the decimal point as you enter more digits.  In the example for 
$75.50, here is what VoiceOver will say.



When you enter 7 Voiceover will say 7 cents.

When you enter 5, VoiceOver will say 75 cents.

When you enter 5, VoiceOver will say 5 dollars and 75 cents.

When you enter 0, VoiceOver will say 75 dollars and 50 cents.



Rob



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending Money with the PayPal App



Hi All,



Using an SE2020 phone running iOS15.7.  I tried sending money using the 
PayPal app for the first time yesterday and found I couldn't type in the 
amount I wanted to send.



I was using a K380 keyboard, if it matters, and the field was just called, 
Label, that you enter your amount into.  It's not a text field that you 
double tap on to hear, text field is editing, like you normally hear when 
you are entering text.



Anyways, when i typed the number 7, to enter 75.00 , voiceover reported 7 
cents then when i typed the 5 voiceover reported 75 cents, and that's all I 
could do.  I couldn't navigate this field, or at least I couldn't find a way 
to navigate it myself.



I ended up using my PC to send the money.  If anyone knows the correct way 
to enter the money amount into the PayPal app, would youplease share the 
steps?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.





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Re: Sending Money with the PayPal App

[Mike B.]

Hi James & Rob,

I just went into the PayPal app again and today it worked as expected.  I 
continued inserting the amount without typing the decimal point and the 
amount filled in correctly.  I did this yesterday as well but, who knows 
what happened, maybe I was inadvertently trying to add the decimal point. 
Thanks for your input.


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From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: Sending Money with the PayPal App


Wonder what would have happened if you had continued by typing 75.00?



James B



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending Money with the PayPal App



Hi All,



Using an SE2020 phone running iOS15.7.  I tried sending money using the 
PayPal app for the first time yesterday and found I couldn't type in the 
amount I wanted to send.



I was using a K380 keyboard, if it matters, and the field was just called, 
Label, that you enter your amount into.  It's not a text field that you 
double tap on to hear, text field is editing, like you normally hear when 
you are entering text.



Anyways, when i typed the number 7, to enter 75.00 , voiceover reported 7 
cents then when i typed the 5 voiceover reported 75 cents, and that's all I 
could do.  I couldn't navigate this field, or at least I couldn't find a way 
to navigate it myself.



I ended up using my PC to send the money.  If anyone knows the correct way 
to enter the money amount into the PayPal app, would youplease share the 
steps?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.





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Re: Sending Money with the PayPal App

[Mike B.]

I tried and it wouldn't go passed the 75 cents.


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- Original Message - 
From: Rob Armstrong
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: Sending Money with the PayPal App


Just keep entering the digits you want without entering a decimal point. 
For example, if you want to enter $75.50 you just enter 7550 and the app 
will move the decimal point as you enter more digits.  In the example for 
$75.50, here is what VoiceOver will say.



When you enter 7 Voiceover will say 7 cents.

When you enter 5, VoiceOver will say 75 cents.

When you enter 5, VoiceOver will say 5 dollars and 75 cents.

When you enter 0, VoiceOver will say 75 dollars and 50 cents.



Rob



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending Money with the PayPal App



Hi All,



Using an SE2020 phone running iOS15.7.  I tried sending money using the 
PayPal app for the first time yesterday and found I couldn't type in the 
amount I wanted to send.



I was using a K380 keyboard, if it matters, and the field was just called, 
Label, that you enter your amount into.  It's not a text field that you 
double tap on to hear, text field is editing, like you normally hear when 
you are entering text.



Anyways, when i typed the number 7, to enter 75.00 , voiceover reported 7 
cents then when i typed the 5 voiceover reported 75 cents, and that's all I 
could do.  I couldn't navigate this field, or at least I couldn't find a way 
to navigate it myself.



I ended up using my PC to send the money.  If anyone knows the correct way 
to enter the money amount into the PayPal app, would youplease share the 
steps?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.





Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Re: Sending Money with the PayPal App

[Mike B.]

It wouldn't go past the 75 cents.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: Sending Money with the PayPal App


Wonder what would have happened if you had continued by typing 75.00?



James B



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending Money with the PayPal App



Hi All,



Using an SE2020 phone running iOS15.7.  I tried sending money using the 
PayPal app for the first time yesterday and found I couldn't type in the 
amount I wanted to send.



I was using a K380 keyboard, if it matters, and the field was just called, 
Label, that you enter your amount into.  It's not a text field that you 
double tap on to hear, text field is editing, like you normally hear when 
you are entering text.



Anyways, when i typed the number 7, to enter 75.00 , voiceover reported 7 
cents then when i typed the 5 voiceover reported 75 cents, and that's all I 
could do.  I couldn't navigate this field, or at least I couldn't find a way 
to navigate it myself.



I ended up using my PC to send the money.  If anyone knows the correct way 
to enter the money amount into the PayPal app, would youplease share the 
steps?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.





Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Sending Money with the PayPal App

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Using an SE2020 phone running iOS15.7.  I tried sending money using the 
PayPal app for the first time yesterday and found I couldn't type in the 
amount I wanted to send.

I was using a K380 keyboard, if it matters, and the field was just called, 
Label, that you enter your amount into.  It's not a text field that you 
double tap on to hear, text field is editing, like you normally hear when 
you are entering text.

Anyways, when i typed the number 7, to enter 75.00 , voiceover reported 7 
cents then when i typed the 5 voiceover reported 75 cents, and that's all I 
could do.  I couldn't navigate this field, or at least I couldn't find a way 
to navigate it myself.

I ended up using my PC to send the money.  If anyone knows the correct way 
to enter the money amount into the PayPal app, would youplease share the 
steps?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Re: Message Alerts vs Notification Center

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard,

Hot damn, I think you naled it!  I needed to have show as banner selected 
when I didn't have allow in notification center selected.  I thought the 
banner setting was more a visual thing so I never selected it.  Thank you 
very very much!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: Message Alerts vs Notification Center


OK,

Under Settings, Notifications, mail, find the customize notifications 
button.  There will be separate settings for each account if you have more 
than one account.

You can assign a different sound for each account if you want, but you will 
want to be sure that Alert, Sounds, and Badges are on under this section.



Again, on the first level, leave notification center unselected.



For messages, I have allow notifications on at the very top.

Then, in the alerts heading, Allow on lock screen and allow as banner are 
selected.  Allow in notification center is not selected.

I also have announce notifications on.

I have show previews as never.



Notification grouping is automatic.



I don’t have to clear messages from the notification center.

I read them and they are gone…



HTH,





Richard, USA.

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t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message Alerts vs Notification Center



Hi Richard,



Thank you very much.  I've tried as you've suggested several times but, if I 
do that then I don't receive my assigned alert sounds when I do get a new 
text or email at all.





Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 10:56 AM

Subject: RE: Message Alerts vs Notification Center



Well Mike, if you don’t mind reading a little more crap, , I think I know 
how you need your settings set.



Open settings, notifications.

Find the Mail app.

Flick to Allow in notification Center, if that says selected, double tap and 
it should no longer say selected.

Back out of the settings, and that should fix it.

The same for messages.



HTH,







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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Message Alerts vs Notification Center



Hi All,



Using an SE2020 iPhone running iOS15.7.  It seems like I've tried every 
configuration bia the Message app and Notification Center app settings but, 
would someone please tell me the following?



What I want is to get the alert sounds for text messages and emails but, I 
don't want them showing in the Notification Center.  To me it makes no sense 
going to both the Message and Mail apps, then into the Notification Center 
to delete the notifications.  I only need to hear the alert sounds as the 
messages and emails hit their respective apps / In-boxes to know I have more 
crap to read.



Is what I'm asking doable?  If so, how it would be done?  All help is 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.









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Re: Message Alerts vs Notification Center

[Mike B.]

Hi Richard,

Thank you very much.  I've tried as you've suggested several times but, if I 
do that then I don't receive my assigned alert sounds when I do get a new 
text or email at all.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Message Alerts vs Notification Center


Well Mike, if you don’t mind reading a little more crap, , I think I know 
how you need your settings set.



Open settings, notifications.

Find the Mail app.

Flick to Allow in notification Center, if that says selected, double tap and 
it should no longer say selected.

Back out of the settings, and that should fix it.

The same for messages.



HTH,







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t.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Message Alerts vs Notification Center



Hi All,



Using an SE2020 iPhone running iOS15.7.  It seems like I've tried every 
configuration bia the Message app and Notification Center app settings but, 
would someone please tell me the following?



What I want is to get the alert sounds for text messages and emails but, I 
don't want them showing in the Notification Center.  To me it makes no sense 
going to both the Message and Mail apps, then into the Notification Center 
to delete the notifications.  I only need to hear the alert sounds as the 
messages and emails hit their respective apps / In-boxes to know I have more 
crap to read.



Is what I'm asking doable?  If so, how it would be done?  All help is 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.









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Message Alerts vs Notification Center

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Using an SE2020 iPhone running iOS15.7.  It seems like I've tried every 
configuration bia the Message app and Notification Center app settings but, 
would someone please tell me the following?

What I want is to get the alert sounds for text messages and emails but, I 
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going to both the Message and Mail apps, then into the Notification Center 
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crap to read.

Is what I'm asking doable?  If so, how it would be done?  All help is 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.




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Re: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query

[Mike B]

When you say the iPhone, * first generation*, are you referring to the 
SE2016?  If so, mine would only update to iOS15.7 and no further.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!

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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 6:51 AM
Subject: iphone first generation and IOS16 update query


Hi



Can anyone tell me if the iphone first generation has been updated with IOS 
16 please?

Thanks in advance



Anthony


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Re: SIM Card Access Hole

[Mike B.]

Hi Julian,

Okay, I found it, thanks much.


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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: SIM Card Access Hole


Hi Mike,


The Sim tray is located on the right side of the phone. In other words, the 
same side as the power button. When you find the little hole, insert and 
press in with the SIM removal tool, and as you do so, you'll feel the tray 
sliding out towards you. At that point, you can just remove the tray and get 
rid of the old Sim card, put in the new one, slide the tray back in place, 
and you should be back in business. Hope that helps.


Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 20, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Hi All,

  Both my wife and I are switching from Verizon with our SE2020 iPhones and 
we need to swap out the SIM cards.  I've never done this before so, how / 
where do I find the little hole to open the SIM card drawer?
  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


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Re: SIM Card Access Hole

[Mike B.]

Hi Julian,

Is it about 1 inch below the power button?  I feel a little hole right 
there.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Julian
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: SIM Card Access Hole


Hi Mike,


The Sim tray is located on the right side of the phone. In other words, the 
same side as the power button. When you find the little hole, insert and 
press in with the SIM removal tool, and as you do so, you'll feel the tray 
sliding out towards you. At that point, you can just remove the tray and get 
rid of the old Sim card, put in the new one, slide the tray back in place, 
and you should be back in business. Hope that helps.


Sent from my iPhone


  On Sep 20, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Hi All,

  Both my wife and I are switching from Verizon with our SE2020 iPhones and 
we need to swap out the SIM cards.  I've never done this before so, how / 
where do I find the little hole to open the SIM card drawer?
  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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SIM Card Access Hole

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Both my wife and I are switching from Verizon with our SE2020 iPhones and we 
need to swap out the SIM cards.  I've never done this before so, how / where 
do I find the little hole to open the SIM card drawer?
All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


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