RE: Sirius XM iOS App

[Rick Alfaro]

Thanks Chris, that was a great explanation of the screens and very useful. Do 
you know if they have enabled the ability to continue playing while the device 
is locked? 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 11:17 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Sirius XM iOS App

 

For those Sirius XM users, here are just some tips in using their iOS app.

1, there are 3 tabs at the bottom, but only 2 are important, the search tab and 
the Library tab. The Library tab is where your favorites are located. 2, On a 
lot of the main screens you will find a list of buttons at the top. Most of the 
time they are labeled, but I have found a couple of times where they were not. 
The buttons should be, in this order: All, Channels, Shows and Podcast, Artist 
and Host, Sports, and Downloads. If I find one not labeled, I just use the 2 
finger double tap and hold gesture to relabel it. 3, To add a channel to your 
Library / Favorites. Go to the search tab, and do a search. In the search 
results, double tap on the channel you want to add. On the channel screen, you 
will find a Add to Library button. Double tap it to Add. At that time the 
button will then change to Remove from Library. 4, Just like Apple Music, 
Sirius XM now has a player screen that can be maximized and minimized. You can 
only maximize it once you start playing the channel. The player screen is where 
you will find all of the options and controls for that channel. To maximize the 
player: After you start playing the channel, go back to the top of the screen. 
If you do not hear, maximize player, then just swipe left until you do. Once 
you hear maximize player, double tap it and the player screen will appear. Now 
at the top will be a minimize player button. 5, On the player screen, the 
controls you will fine will depend on the type of channel you are playing. 
Music Channels. Most music channels have different DJs hosting their own show. 
As you swipe across the player screen, it will list the current show and the 
time frame of that show. After that you will find just a time listed. If it is 
the current time, then you are listening live. But the time listed will be 
within the time frame of the show. On the Player screen, you can rewind / fast 
forward within the time frame of the show, and you can even restart the show. 
For example, I started a music channel at 9 Am. The time frame of the show was 
from 7 Am to 11 Am. The current time was listed because I was listening live. I 
then hit the restart button, and it instantly started playing the show at the 
beginning. I then checked the time on the player and it said, 7 AM. That is 
because that show started at 7, and I just went back to the beginning. If you 
go to the very bottom of the player screen you will find a view more menu 
button. In here you can set a reminder for that show, turn a sleep timer on, or 
send feedback. If you swipe left going back up the screen you will find: A go 
live button. Remember I restarted the show, but if I hit the Go Live button, it 
will instantly jump me back to what is currently playing live on that channel. 
Restart button, this restarts the show. If it is a DJ / show that you like, but 
came in on the middle of it, then you might want to restart it and listen to it 
in its entirety. Rewind, play, fastward buttons, These are your common buttons. 
When playing, the play button becomes a pause button. And you can use the 2 
finger double tap to stop / restart playing a channel. Please note: If you 
pause a channel, then restart it, then it will just continue playing where it 
left off. in order to restart it where it is currently, then you will have to 
choose the Go Live button.

Sports games and Talk Shows. With Sports Games and Talk Shows, the Playing 
screen has an additional control that I really like. Just like in Podcast, for 
Sports games and Talk Shows, it divides things up into chapters. So you can 
jump around however you like, up to what is being playing live. The only 
difference is that instead of chapters, they call them segments. For example, 
in a baseball game, lets say that you were able to listen to the first 3 
innings, but had to go do something, and when you were done, the game was in 
the 6th or 7th inning. No problem. You can just go to this segment control, it 
will list all of the innings of the game. You just go to the inning where you 
left off and double tap. You will then be starting at that point. In all 
sporting events, you can jump around as long as the event is on air. But you 
are not able to play a sporting event after it is over.

Now for talk shows you can jump the same way, but in addition, they save at 
least the last five shows, so you can listen to any of them on demand. You can 
even download them if you want.

To access the Segment control. It is normally near the top of the player 
screen, but just swipe until you

RE: Braille input with IOS

[Rick Alfaro]

Thanks Richard. That’s perfect, just what I was looking for.

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

rick.alf...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille input with IOS

 

Here you go Rick: 

 

https://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-braille-screen-input-ios

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Dec 21, 2023, at 2:05 PM, Rick Alfaro mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Can anyone point me to a good app or tutorial on using Braille input? I’ve used 
it very little and would like to become more proficient with it. I do know 
grade 2 and uncontracted Brialle but need to learn more on how it’s implemented 
on my iPhone 15 pro. Appreciate any suggestions.

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

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Braille input with IOS

[Rick Alfaro]

Can anyone point me to a good app or tutorial on using Braille input? I've
used it very little and would like to become more proficient with it. I do
know grade 2 and uncontracted Brialle but need to learn more on how it's
implemented on my iPhone 15 pro. Appreciate any suggestions.

 

 

 

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RE: Question about the Vesync app

[Rick Alfaro]

Kelly, you can operate the fryer using voice commands with Alexa. I believe 
it’s compatible with Google assistant as well but not totally sure about that.

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app

 

Hi,

 

Can you use this particular device without the app effectively if you don’t 
see? I’ve been wanting to try an air fryer but the few I’ve explored all had 
touch controls that I couldn’t use. I haven’t done extensive research.

 

 

 

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app

 

Cosori Pro 3 Air Fryer 

Merv

 

 

On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Larry Smith mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

What is the name of the air fryer that you guys are using with the Vesync app. 
I looked for it on amazon but didn’t find anything called Vesync. This air 
fryer sound interesting. Thanks

 

On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Thanks Rick, I think sometimes my messages are not coming through or something. 
I had sent a note saying I found them on the Amazon site just before we ordered 
it. They list 9.4 by 9.4 by 4.8 deep. Close enough to your measurements. Thanks 
again. 

 

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“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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On Nov 22, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Rick Alfaro mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Richard and others,

In case you haven't gotten the inner dimensions of the pan yet, here they are 
as per my tape king.
The handled pan is 9.58 inches square by 4.8 inches deep without the crisper 
tray. The crisper tray is inserted at the bottom of the pan and has holes in it 
to allow for grease or liquid through to the bottom if desired.

This was just a quick measurement so probably not as precise it as it could be 
but it should give you a good idea.




Warmest regards,
Rick Alfaro
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app

Well, they do not recommend more than one layer as the air has to be able to 
circulate around the food.
When they are talking chicken wings, I suspect they mean the kind you would get 
at a bar, which only has the meaty portion and not the little flat wing section.
And since I don't do chicken wings, I don't really know about their sizes.
But, yes, the large basket is geared probably for larger items, including their 
cake pan, bread pan, pizza pan ... we can do enough sweet potato fries or pot 
stickers for two in ours which I think may be a little smaller than yours.

I'd appreciate it if you could get the size of the basket at some point.  NO 
hurry.




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app

Sorry, richard. I don’t know the inner dimensions of the pan yet. Can’t find it 
anywhere online, and I forgot to ask my sided spouse, but I shall do so later 
today. Also, and I guess this is really getting off-topic, since it’s not a 
technical question. What the heck is the point of this big pan/basket if you’re 
only supposed to put food in one layer? I get how you could do a chicken, a 
whole big piece of meat whatever.but is it really true that even with the two 
burners you should only put one layer? The pan is substantially smaller than a 
sheet pan, so a whole bunch of chicken wings for instance, which they say you 
can do, how? You probably couldn’t put more than maybe four big chicken wings 
in that basket in one layer. That’s a far cry from I think 17 that they 
advertised. I don’t get it.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Richard Turner mailto:ri

RE: Question about the Vesync app

[Rick Alfaro]

Richard and others,

In case you haven't gotten the inner dimensions of the pan yet, here they are 
as per my tape king.
The handled pan is 9.58 inches square by 4.8 inches deep without the crisper 
tray. The crisper tray is inserted at the bottom of the pan and has holes in it 
to allow for grease or liquid through to the bottom if desired.

This was just a quick measurement so probably not as precise it as it could be 
but it should give you a good idea.




Warmest regards,
Rick Alfaro
rick.alf...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app

Well, they do not recommend more than one layer as the air has to be able to 
circulate around the food.
When they are talking chicken wings, I suspect they mean the kind you would get 
at a bar, which only has the meaty portion and not the little flat wing section.
And since I don't do chicken wings, I don't really know about their sizes.
But, yes, the large basket is geared probably for larger items, including their 
cake pan, bread pan, pizza pan ... we can do enough sweet potato fries or pot 
stickers for two in ours which I think may be a little smaller than yours.

I'd appreciate it if you could get the size of the basket at some point.  NO 
hurry.




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app

Sorry, richard. I don’t know the inner dimensions of the pan yet. Can’t find it 
anywhere online, and I forgot to ask my sided spouse, but I shall do so later 
today. Also, and I guess this is really getting off-topic, since it’s not a 
technical question. What the heck is the point of this big pan/basket if you’re 
only supposed to put food in one layer? I get how you could do a chicken, a 
whole big piece of meat whatever.but is it really true that even with the two 
burners you should only put one layer? The pan is substantially smaller than a 
sheet pan, so a whole bunch of chicken wings for instance, which they say you 
can do, how? You probably couldn’t put more than maybe four big chicken wings 
in that basket in one layer. That’s a far cry from I think 17 that they 
advertised. I don’t get it.
Mary
 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:45 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Good to know Rick.
> We probably should get that one, as ours is one of the recalled models, but 
> it has been working fine but we know we are using it at our own risk.  My 
> wife cannot imagine being without one for 6 weeks or more if we go through 
> the replacement process by cutting the cord and submitting a picture and 
> waiting until they send us a replacement, which likely would not be the 2 
> burner model...
> Christmas is coming. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS 
> version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Rick Alfaro
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app
> 
> Hi Richard. I have the same model and have noticed where the second bottom 
> element makes a huge difference is in the fact that you don't have to turn 
> stuff over. For example, we just made a batch of mini eggrolls and they came 
> out perfectly cooked and crispy all the way around. They honestly seemed like 
> they had been deep fried. They were delicious and better in this air fryer 
> than in any other we have had. I really didn't notice that much difference in 
> cooking time however. Everything seems to cook more evenly.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> rick.alf...@gmail.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app
> 
> That is interesting about the cook time.  I wonder what the point is of 
> having two burners then...
> I'll be interested to hear how it goes when yo

RE: Question about the Vesync app

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Richard. I have the same model and have noticed where the second bottom 
element makes a huge difference is in the fact that you don't have to turn 
stuff over. For example, we just made a batch of mini eggrolls and they came 
out perfectly cooked and crispy all the way around. They honestly seemed like 
they had been deep fried. They were delicious and better in this air fryer than 
in any other we have had. I really didn't notice that much difference in 
cooking time however. Everything seems to cook more evenly.



Warmest regards,

Rick Alfaro
rick.alf...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about the Vesync app

That is interesting about the cook time.  I wonder what the point is of having 
two burners then...
I'll be interested to hear how it goes when you cook something.

BTW, any news about the inside measurements of the basket?




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app

Hi richard,
Yes. I get that. I actually tried both, the thing for new page which would be 
the three finger scroll up in portrait mode. Or I also tried the side to side 
with three fingers but didn’t get anything. I’ll try it again. They do say that 
the cooking time is not cut in half. And then people disagree as to whether it 
makes any difference at all, or maybe it cuts down by a little bit. That’s kind 
of why I was interested in their specific recipes to perhaps compare with 
regular recipes that don’t expect two burners. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2023, at 8:46 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> To be clear, the three finger swipe needs to be done with your fingers turn 
> sideways as if you had the phone landscaped, only leave it portrait and swipe 
> left to right, or right to left to turn pages like in a book rather than 
> scrolling up or down.
> 
> My assumption about the cook time is that it would be half of a recipe for 
> single burner models since you do not need to turn the food over.
> You may want to call Cosori and ask.  Their phone support is usually very 
> good.
> But it makes sense to me that if it is cooking from top and bottom a whole 
> chicken would cook in 30 to 35 minutes instead of twice that.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS 
> version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 8:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about the Vesync app
> 
> Thanks, richard. I actually had tried the three finger swipe because I 
> thought that would scroll, and I didn’t see anything. I guess I’ll give it 
> another shot. The thing that appeals to me about the app recipes is that it 
> is claimed they are made specifically for this model of air fryer, which has 
> a burner both on top and bottom. So I’m wondering about how the time might 
> change for an ordinary recipe where they expect only one burner.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2023, at 7:5 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don
>> T use the app hardly at all.
>> I just looked and the only thing I found is after double tapping on entrees  
>> I get a few more by swiping left to right with three fingers.
>> For us, we do better searching on the web for air fryer recipes for specific 
>> dishes.
>> But the app could use a lot of work for Voiceover users.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS 
>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups

RE: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mary. I have to say that I totally agree with you. Siri has gotten worse 
instead of better IMHO. Lately, one example is a simple request to call my wife 
who of course is in my contacts. I even specify mobile as part of my request 
and I still get which entry I want even though I specified mobile which is 
definitely one of the choices. So annoying. I'm seeing this in lots of other 
examples where I'm asked to make a choice when it should not be necessary at 
all.



Warmest regards,

Rick Alfaro
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

I have folders too. I’ve been using iPhones for years. But after a while, you 
get more apps. And besides, even if you know precisely what folder an app is 
in, you still have to open the folder find the app and open it. If Siri worked 
like it should, it would be much more efficient to just use it to open apps. 
But even this morning, when I say Open such and such app and give the precise 
name, it comes back and asks me which app do you want this one that one or 
another one, all in the same general app category. This after I’ve stated 
something specifically. Anyway, this just started with the so-called upgrade to 
17.1. Feels like a regression to me.  And there wasn’t that much to regress 
from. I still prefer iOS to android. But really Apple. Get it together on Siri. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I guess it depends on what you are using these automated helpers for. I find 
> Siri better than Alexa or Curtana for general knowledge.  As far as opening 
> apps, I do that myself. Early on when I first began using the iPhone, I 
> learned to edit my home screen, group various apps by category into folders 
> and so on. Even when using the contacts listing in e-mails,  text or phone 
> calls, I add all regularly used addresses to the contacts list and the only 
> time I ever use Siri to make calls/texts is if the addressee is not in my 
> contacts list.  Siri never misses when I ask her call (998) 555-.
> I almost never ask Siri to be involved at all in apps.
> 
> 
>> On 10/25/2023 11:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Mary,
>> 
>> You've got me smiling.  Thank you.
>> 
>> I have to admit, I agree with you.
>> 
>> I continue to be amazed at the power of Alexa and other assistants in 
>> comparison to Siri.  It's interesting since Siri existed before any of the 
>> others.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:56 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.
>> 
>> I just upgraded to iOS 17.1. I’m grateful for the post about the language 
>> rotor, which was unnecessarily unchecked. But now, Siri is even dumber than 
>> before. When I ask her to open Pedometer, it asks which app Pedometer or 
>> StepUp. I clearly said Pedometer. So why does it need to ask that? Further, 
>> when I reply to it stupid question which app by saying Pedometer, it says 
>> uh-oh there’s a problem. The app is there, and if I find it on my phone I 
>> can open it. Really Apple, you are really behind the eight ball here.  My 
>> Samsung device opens stuff just fine with the much-maligned Bixby. Siri, 
>> worthless. Apple really has fallen way behind the curve and this has nothing 
>> to do with AI. Get your stuff together Apple.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: Has anyone ordered a new Apple product yet and if so how was your experience?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hello. I ordered through T-mobile. We ordered 2 15 pros last Friday via their 
iPhone on us program. We both had iPhone 12 pro and pro max to trade in. It 
went very smoothly and our expected ship date is this Monday, the 22nd.



Warmest regards,

Rick Alfaro
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has anyone ordered a new Apple product yet and if so how was your 
experience?

I ordered an Apple Watch Ultra 2 for myself and after signing in with my wife's 
Apple Id I ordered one for her. The process was as smooth and easy as it could 
be.
It did say "available starting September 22", but you were able to order since 
the day of the presentation.
I received an email saying the order was processing and it said nothing about 
me having to do anything else and for both orders I received a delivery time 
frame, for my watch it is October 16-20 (I selected the Trail Loop band) and 
for my wife it is October 23-277, a week klater and maybe that is so because 
she selected the Alpine Loop band which I think is maybe the more popular one.
Anyways, I am now thinking I may change it to the Ocean band which I have seen 
when somebody showed me his Apple Watch Ultra on Saturday and that is what he 
has, it is not what I would want for every-day use, but I read that while you 
can only order the Apple Watch Ultra with either the Alpine Loop, Trail Loop or 
Ocean Loop bands, you can use any watch band that fits a 44/45mm Apple Watch so 
I will most likely get a third-party Milanese Loop metal band for it because 
that is what I have had ever since I had my first Apple Watch which was a 
second edition in 2016. I can switch bands for when I go swimming or when my 
wife and I go to the Philippines in February where I will see how useful the 
Ultra 2 is for a Voiceover user for scuba diving.


Best regards,
Sieghard
 
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Subject: Has anyone ordered a new Apple product yet and if so how was your 
experience?

On Friday at 1 o’clock P.M here in the UK the Apple Store was supposed to take 
pre orders for Apple products.

You could actually start the order process on Tuesday 12 September and this was 
supposed to speed up the process on Friday 15Th.

Here in the UK the order process was not as smooth as I thought it would be.

After several attempts my order for an iPhone 15 Pro Max as an upgrade from my 
current iPhone 12 Pro Max was complete.

At first it was unable to find the order I placed on 12Th then the trade in 
system was not working.

It is complete now but it took a little over half an hour on Friday to complete.

I’m posting this today as I had COVID on the weekend and have not done much 
since.
Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: iOS 17 solves ‘You need to unlock your iPhone first’ accessibility hurdle, 9 to 5 Mac

[Rick Alfaro]

Totally agree here. Perhaps a step in the right direction but of no use to 
anyone using other earphone other than AirPods. Id love to see other options 
like perhaps a user defined gesture or spoken word or phrase. I’d also like to 
see an option to allow messages to come through other headphones. Why limit 
this to just Apple earphones? 
 
I recently purchased a set of Shokz OpenAir headphones that I just love since I 
can easily use them even with my hearing aids on without blocking out any 
external sound at all but just can’t get notifications to play through them as 
they are received no matter how I try setting up notification setting on both 
my watch and phone.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
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Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 2:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 17 solves ‘You need to unlock your iPhone first’ accessibility 
hurdle, 9 to 5 Mac
 
Solved yes, but only solved if you own Airpods. Too bad they don't consider 
somebody wearing an Apple Watch equal to wearing  your Airpods.
On the one hand you can use Apple Pay on the Apple Watch without having to 
authenticate as long as the watch is unlocked and on your wrist, but you can't 
use it to unlock  your iPhone or even to not have Siri request that you unlock 
your iPhone when you ask Siri something which requires it.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iOS 17 solves ‘You need to unlock your iPhone first’ accessibility 
hurdle, 9 to 5 Mac
 
iOS 17 solves ‘You need to unlock your iPhone first’ accessibility hurdle
Ben Lovejoy | Jul 19 2023 - 7:57 am PT
 
iOS 17 has solved one of the biggest accessibility hurdles for iPhone users 
with limited movement: the dreaded ‘You need to unlock your iPhone first’ 
message.
 
Siri is of course a massive accessibility win for people like 9to5Mac friend 
and quadriplegic Colin Hughes, allowing voice control of a wide range of tasks. 
But until now, there’s been a major hurdle …
 
Hughes talked last year about a big accessibility issue: unlocking the iPhone.
 
   One frustrating user experience is the “You need to unlock your 
iPhone first” response to commands like “read my messages,” “what’s next on my 
calendar,” etc. Until now, if my iPhone was locked, and in my wheelchair side 
pocket for example, I couldn’t take it out and unlock it to access my messages 
– and Siri would always unhelpfully say “You need to unlock your iPhone first.”
 
   Voice Control does let users speak their passcode, but this 
obviously isn’t secure when around other people. 
 
One idea he had then was for the iPhone to recognize his voice, in the same way 
HomePod does.
 
   Given that Siri on HomePod can now recognize individual voices, 
being able to unlock your iPhone by simply saying, “Hey Siri, unlock my phone” 
and having it check for a voice match before doing so would be perfect.
 
But in iOS 17, Apple has solved the problem another way.
 
   There’s a new Siri authentication system on AirPods where if 
your device is unlocked while wearing your AirPods, it will be considered 
authenticated as long as they are in range (or until you change the output 
audio device on the system).
 
   So basically when my carer puts my AirPods in my ears, then as 
long as my iPhone is unlocked when she does so, even if it locks afterwards I 
can still access my messages, calendar events and more.
 
Hughes says this is a great solution.
 
   I imagine Apple being Apple they would’ve worried about privacy 
and security. I’ve been using it, and this really does Just Work.
 
Chained Siri requests – without the need to do the “Hey Siri” thing repeatedly 
– also make a big difference to those who make extensive use of voice commands.
 
   Siri knows when you are speaking to it and when you might be 
talking to someone else. This makes my life easier as well.
 
   You can now do some more advanced things, like being able to 
speak over Siri at any time to issue a new request. This comes over to Announce 
Notifications too, which I rely on a lot, so now you can chain requests like 
“repeat” and then “reply.”
 
   With Siri’s understanding of when you’re talking to Siri versus 
someone else, you can now issue any request that Siri understands in Announce 
Notifications in iOS 17, and not just the limited set of functionality there 
was before.
 
Are these things you’d find helpful? Or have you noticed any other 
accessibility improvements in iOS 17? Please let us know in the comments.
 
From:
https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/19/you-need-to-unlock-your-iphone/
 
Richard, USA.
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RE: Annoying Siri behavior

[Rick Alfaro]

Thanks Richard. What makes this so difficult to pinpoint is that sometimes it 
works just fine so it is hit or miss to reliably reproduce it but it happens 
often enough to be aggravating. I’ll check the siri settings again but I’m 
pretty sure it’s enabled while locked.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying Siri behavior
 
My phone is locked.
I just asked Siri to call NFB Newsline and it did with no fuss.
 
I'm not sure what setting would impact this behavior unless it is Allow Siri 
when locked.  If that is off, that would explain it I think.
If that is on, then try toggling it off and then on again.
Otherwise, I would be calling Apple 877-204-3930
 
 
 
 
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rick 
Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:47 AM
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Subject: Annoying Siri behavior
 
Hello.
 
I love siri for what it can do but I find the following behavior to be 
extremely annoying and am wondering if there is a solution for it.
 
I have Face ID enabled but Siri insists on saying I have to unlock my phone 
first before executing simple commands like just asking her to call or message 
someone which seems to be totally unnecessary.  
 
For a while there I tried simply disabling the pass code and Face ID but don’t 
like the idea of having my phone unprotected.
 
Has anyone come up with a way around this, or is this a known bug? 
Very annoying.
 
 
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Annoying Siri behavior

[Rick Alfaro]

Hello.
 
I love siri for what it can do but I find the following behavior to be
extremely annoying and am wondering if there is a solution for it.
 
I have Face ID enabled but Siri insists on saying I have to unlock my phone
first before executing simple commands like just asking her to call or
message someone which seems to be totally unnecessary.  
 
For a while there I tried simply disabling the pass code and Face ID but
don't like the idea of having my phone unprotected.
 
Has anyone come up with a way around this, or is this a known bug? 
Very annoying.
 
 

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RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mark. I'm a big fan of the Apple TV plus series. They all seem to have AD 
and they are very well done. I've watched a ton of them so let me know if you 
want any suggestions  on some really good series to start watching. Glad you 
are doing well.



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Hello Everyone,

First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.

Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.

1.
So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being able 
to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, very 
nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus such that 
as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?

2.
With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get 
started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?

3.
Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  I must 
say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default card, at time 
of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a second card, for just 
that reason.

4.
Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these, 
apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward to watching 
Highjacked and Silo.

5.
I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in terms of 
technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two remaining hardworking 
and beloved PCs; one that is still running Windows 7  The Windows 7 PC is not 
connected to the internet.

6.
Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot imagine using 
them as a primary means of navigating my life.

7.
Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread that asked 
about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and range extenders.  In 
fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my home, just last week.  I was 
delighted to discover that when you connect to these devices, for the first 
time, on an iOS device, the device's built-in web interface automatically 
launches, prompting you for the required info.  Very, very, impressive.  In 
fact, now that I think about it, these new devices can tell you when they are 
in the best location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same network.  
How wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only scratched the 
surface on all that is to come.

Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply to this 
thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also.

Mark


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Re: Not receiving mail from group?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi, yes your message came through along with a few others today. Either 
the list has been extremely quiet for the last few days or some of the 
list traffic just isn't getting here for some reason. Not quite sure how 
to troubleshoot this one.




On 11/14/2018 11:09 PM, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi, can you read this email? Hopefully it comes through. I think the group has 
been quiet today.


On Nov 14, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:

Ok, my own email came through but nothing else. Any suggestions appreciated.




On 11/14/2018 2:20 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Not sure what's going on but I've stopped getting mail from this group for 
about the last couple of days or so. I've checked my settings and junk mail 
folders but nothing there either. Other groups I'm subscribed to seem to be 
working just fine. Mark, if you could please check and see if perhaps I've been 
flagged for too many bounces? Thanks much.




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Re: Not receiving mail from group?

[Rick Alfaro]

Ok, my own email came through but nothing else. Any suggestions appreciated.



On 11/14/2018 2:20 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Not sure what's going on but I've stopped getting mail from this group 
for about the last couple of days or so. I've checked my settings and 
junk mail folders but nothing there either. Other groups I'm 
subscribed to seem to be working just fine. Mark, if you could please 
check and see if perhaps I've been flagged for too many bounces? 
Thanks much.





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Not receiving mail from group?

[Rick Alfaro]

Not sure what's going on but I've stopped getting mail from this group 
for about the last couple of days or so. I've checked my settings and 
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to seem to be working just fine. Mark, if you could please check and see 
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Re: Thermostat again

[Rick Alfaro]

If you are looking for a thermostat that you can control with Alexa, I 
can suggest the Nest Learning thermostat. It's one of the more expensive 
choices at around $200 to $250 or so.




On 8/13/2018 3:33 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone wrote:


HI,

I haven’t previously been in the market for a new thermostat, but 
found out this morning I need to get one urgently, if I want to stay 
cool in our current heat.


I’ll be checking the Archive for comments, but I need to know quickly 
when talking to the electrician for which thermostat is best.


In case I don’t get through the Archived material in time, can those 
in the know suggest best or several good VO accessible thermostats, 
and which to avoid?


Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Xfinity XFIPods and iPhone Setup

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Robin. I must have missed the original message. Which Xfinity device are you 
referring to? Is it their standard router with digital voice support, or are 
you referring to some sort of mesh network device? That I haven’t seen yet?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Xfinity XFIPods and iPhone Setup

 

Hi,

While it’s true that these devices don’t directly relate to iPhone use since 
you use your iPhone exclusively to set them up if you use that platform of 
course I thought it relevant to anyone on this list who might be a Comcast 
customer.

 

In case anyone had been anticipating the arrival of these devices for Comcast 
Xfinity internet customers and wondering what they’d be like and how accessible 
their setup would be let me assure you that Comcast as has become the custom of 
recent years have outdone themselves in creating an experience that is both 
easy, intuitive for all and accessible too.

I ordered the devices Thursday afternoon and they arrived Saturday. Their 
packaging is of very high quality. The devices are compact but feel very solid 
to the touch. But more importantly the setup process in Comcast’s Xfinity XFI 
app was seamless, intuitive, easy as can be and accessible at least on iOS 
devices from beginning to end.  I can’t speak to the Android side as I don’t 
have a device running it but I’ve no doubt that if it isn’t yet, it soon will 
be accessible on that device as well. True to the description setup took less 
than ten minutes and the end user needed to know practically next to nothing 
more than their own internet user name and password and how to follow prompts 
to get things up and running.

For those who’ve worked with mesh internet systems before the experience will 
be quite familiar but even for those with no prior experience with such devices 
worry not should you choose to implement them in your environs the entire 
process from ordering to setup will be a breeze.

I just thought I’d post just in case others like myself had been anticipating 
their arrival and wondered what it’d be like to get them up and going.

All of my devices including iDevices and Sonos speakers along with pc’s and 
other internet connected things are happily up and running. 

Take good care.

Robin

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RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

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Hi, adding my 2 cents, I have the Galaxy device and it works great once you get 
past the boot time which is my one biggest complaint. Even though they have 
shortened the boot time considerably with its last firmware by 13 seconds, I 
find it is still too long which causes me to use one of the IOS solutions like 
seeing AI or KNFB reader. Having said that however, the Galaxy is more 
accurate. It’s what I use if I have several items to scan.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 5:24 PM
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Subject: RE: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

Ok… May I ask what you hated about it? How is SeeingAI better for example?

 

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Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:03 PM
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Subject: Re: I.D. Mate bar code reader instead of iOS barcode app?

 

I hated mine. I think Seeing AI is a lot better at it.

 

Brandon

 

On May 13, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Cristóbal  > wrote:

 

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone has an I.D. Mate bar code reader and what their 
thoughts are as far as having a standalone device as opposed to using an app on 
their iPhone or some other bar code scanning app like SeeingAI?

Someone is selling some I.D. Mate bar code readers on a buy/sell list I belong 
to and while I’m somewhat interested, I’m wondering if ultimately, the app more 
or less duplicates what the I.D. Mate bar code reader does? That or is the 
singular task that the I.D. Mate bar code reader is designed for is that much 
more superior at what it does that having a stand alone bar code scanning 
device may be worth h having? Also, for the record, I am completely blind so 
any features that the I.D. Mate bar code reader  may have to assist folks with 
low vision wouldn’t matter to me and not be some sort of plus for having the 
device. 

Would appreciate any input or observations.

Thanks, 

Cristóbal

 

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RE: spam email

[Rick Alfaro]

I also got a similar email listing a bogus purchase. The offending email can be 
forwarded to:

reportphish...@apple.com  

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 12:56 AM
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Subject: spam email

 

I received a fake seeming email claiming to be from apple. do they have an 
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RE: Instant Pot App Accessibility and Features Question

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If you want full control of the Instant Pot via the app, you have to purchase 
the Bluetooth model if you can find one.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 6:28 PM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Instant Pot App Accessibility and Features Question

 

Hi List,

 

I know this isn't a cooking list but I have a question about the Instant Pot 
and what exactly its iOS app allows one to control. I read the Instant Pot app 
description and it seems to talk more about recipes as opposed to controlling 
the device with the app. Can anyone who uses an Instant Pot give me some 
direction on what the app allows you to do and whether it's accessible? Is 
there a particular Instant Pot model that I need to get to obtain app control 
over it?

 

Thanks so much for any help you can provide.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: apple watch buy or wait?

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Hi. I went from a series 1 to a series 3 and the difference was huge. I was 
about to give up on the Apple watch because the series 1 had gotten s slow 
and bogged down but I decided to try the series 3 and I’m so very glad I did. 
Seriously, it’s a major upgrade from the 1 to the 3.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sarai 
Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:02 PM
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My series 1 is just so slow.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple watch buy or wait?

 

I think you can buy it now, of course nobody knows what will happen, but I 
doubt the watch will get a big upgrade if any in the fall and the series 3 is 
apparently very good. I bought a series 2 in October of 2016 and while it’s not 
bad, I find now after a year and a half it’s a bit slow. I did a reset and set 
it up as a new device and that helped a bit, but I must say I’m definitely not 
100% satisfied with how snappy it is and from what I understand the series 3 is 
much more responsive which of course can be expected to a point.

 

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Sarai Bucciarelli
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Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: apple watch buy or wait?

 

Just came in to the funds to get an Apple Watch series 3. I have a series 1. 
Should I buy now, or wait till September?

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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RE: iBroadcast?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Rob. I did download the MyCloud ap for iPhone and found it to be quite 
accessible. The only thing I don't like is that there aren't many options on 
how your files and folders are displayed. I would have liked to se at least 
some sort of setting for how files are sorted.


It might be a while before I actually get around to getting this done for Alexa 
so here is the link where this is all explained and how to enable and use the 
skill.

https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=20392=


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From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iBroadcast?

Aah, now this is more what I hoped to hear from the start.  Thanks, let us know 
how it works out, could be the key step forward I've waited for.

BTW:  Amazon music unlimited in the UK quoted about 40m tracks.  So I asked to 
sample a few of my artists from my obscure CD 
collection, and guess what?...   not one of them. Music from Colombia and 
Paraguay hasn't made it mainstream yet.  So back to my 
quest for private storage of whatever collected these upteen years.

BobH.
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: iBroadcast?


Hi Sieghard. I just read about an Alexa skill that will allow you to use your 
Amazon echo device with one of the WD MyCloud devices. 
I have a WD MyCloud nas so I'm anxious too give this a try and see how it works 
out. You might want to check it out if you have one 
of the WD devices.



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Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iBroadcast?

If you use a cloud service like Dropbox or OneDrive you can certainly store 
your music there, but this will not be available to the 
Music app on your iPhone. You would have to use one of many free or paid apps 
most of which can access music stored in all the major 
cloud services.
Also, the Amazon Echo can only play music from services such as Amazon Music, 
Spotify, Deezer etc., I don't think it can access your 
own music stored in the cloud or locally on a computer or network attached 
drive. Sonos, however, can do this.
Everybody from Apple to Amazon and Google want to promote the use of 
subscription based music services and that is in  my opinion 
certaily the way of the future. I am 51 and of course used to own a turn table 
and later CD player back in the 80's and of course 
frequent trips to the record store back then were part of my lifestyle. Unlike 
others who bought thousands of albums I only owned 
about 280 or 300, my LP collection which wasn't that large I sold a long time 
ago and my 280 or so CD's have all been ripped in FLAC 
lossless format onto a network attached storage drive and the actual CD's have 
been packed up in a box for years since I haven't 
owned a CD player for at least 6 or 7 years or so, basically ever since I 
bought Sonos equipment.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:19 AM
To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iBroadcast?

Q:  anybody tried the following?  been for a look, seems plausable, even worth 
a try.
In essence,  free cloud space to store music in current form,  then app to 
access it for use on idevice, without shovelling it all 
onto your device.  Can store more than even the higher spec phones will hold, 
but certainly an option to evade going through iTunes 
itself. All else we'd need to know is whether the content would show up as part 
of your music library, and become  accessible to any 
Echo's or related.

Thanks, BobH.

https://www.ibroadcast.com/home/

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RE: iBroadcast?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Sieghard. I just read about an Alexa skill that will allow you to use your 
Amazon echo device with one of the WD MyCloud devices. I have a WD MyCloud nas 
so I'm anxious too give this a try and see how it works out. You might want to 
check it out if you have one of the WD devices.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iBroadcast?

If you use a cloud service like Dropbox or OneDrive you can certainly store 
your music there, but this will not be available to the Music app on your 
iPhone. You would have to use one of many free or paid apps most of which can 
access music stored in all the major cloud services.
Also, the Amazon Echo can only play music from services such as Amazon Music, 
Spotify, Deezer etc., I don't think it can access your own music stored in the 
cloud or locally on a computer or network attached drive. Sonos, however, can 
do this.
Everybody from Apple to Amazon and Google want to promote the use of 
subscription based music services and that is in  my opinion certaily the way 
of the future. I am 51 and of course used to own a turn table and later CD 
player back in the 80's and of course frequent trips to the record store back 
then were part of my lifestyle. Unlike others who bought thousands of albums I 
only owned about 280 or 300, my LP collection which wasn't that large I sold a 
long time ago and my 280 or so CD's have all been ripped in FLAC lossless 
format onto a network attached storage drive and the actual CD's have been 
packed up in a box for years since I haven't owned a CD player for at least 6 
or 7 years or so, basically ever since I bought Sonos equipment.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:19 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: iBroadcast?

Q:  anybody tried the following?  been for a look, seems plausable, even worth 
a try.
In essence,  free cloud space to store music in current form,  then app to 
access it for use on idevice, without shovelling it all onto your device.  Can 
store more than even the higher spec phones will hold, but certainly an option 
to evade going through iTunes itself. All else we'd need to know is whether the 
content would show up as part of your music library, and become  accessible to 
any Echo's or related.

Thanks, BobH.

https://www.ibroadcast.com/home/ 

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RE: iHealth blood glucose meter

[Rick Alfaro]

Thanks Amy, I do currently own and use the Prodigy Voice. I am trying to find a 
meter that will sync results via BlueTooth and HealthKit for better tracking 
and report generation. Thanks for your response though.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iHealth blood glucose meter

 

Hi Rick,
I don’t know about that particular meter, but I can tell you that the only 
accessible meter that I am aware of that requires no sighted  assistance  is 
the prodigy talking glucose meter. If you need more information, write me off 
list and let me know.
Amy Ruell

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 20, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com 
<mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello group.

 

If anyone has this meter I’d be very interested in any feedback you can 
provide. According to the company, their app is VO friendly but I don’t know 
this for sure. As per the documentation, you have to scan the bottle of strips 
before it will work for you. I’m wondering if this particular step of scanning 
is accessible. Any info appreciated.

 

 

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iHealth blood glucose meter

[Rick Alfaro]

Hello group.

 

If anyone has this meter I'd be very interested in any feedback you can
provide. According to the company, their app is VO friendly but I don't know
this for sure. As per the documentation, you have to scan the bottle of
strips before it will work for you. I'm wondering if this particular step of
scanning is accessible. Any info appreciated.

 

 

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RE: Spam calls: how to stop the robots from calling your iPhone or Android, The Verge

[Rick Alfaro]

I just installed Hiya and so far it seems to be very accessible. Let's see how 
well it actually works. I get a ton of calls using the neighborhood spoofing 
method using the first six digits of my number, so annoying.



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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Spam calls: how to stop the robots from calling your iPhone or 
Android, The Verge

How to stop annoying robocalls on your iPhone or Android phone By Chris Welch

Mobile spam calls have been a nuisance for years, but over the last few months, 
it's felt to me like there's been a surge of them. I get between four and six 
calls daily, and a quick survey of friends shows that I'm not alone. Every 
waking day brings with it a new barrage. Robocallers have upped their game by 
masking their spam with local, genuine-looking phone numbers.
Sometimes their nonsense is amusing - like when you get a threatening voicemail 
about your impending arrest over owed back taxes - but the vast majority of the 
time, it's an unwelcome distraction. It's all too easy for these scammers to 
wield the power of the internet and fire off countless calls with ease. And 
once even just a few people fall for a scam, they've made enough profit to 
cover their trivial expenses.

Robocalls have become so infuriating that the Federal Trade Commission received 
over 375,000 complaints about them every month last year. The agency routinely 
says it's doing its best to get a handle on the situation, and yes, there are 
occasionally significant crackdowns. But real-world feedback indicates that 
things are getting worse - not better - and it's starting to feel a little out 
of control. 

So if you're as sick as I am of pulling a vibrating phone out of your pocket 
only to see a random, suspect number, let's go over the options for fighting 
back and restoring some sense of peace. 
First, I'll review some definitions since the carriers make important 
distinctions between these calls - even if they're all unwelcome and annoying. 
Here's how Verizon looks at things:
.   Robocallers: Automated, prerecorded phone messages
.   Spammers: Unwanted callers that may be calling indiscriminately to a
large number of recipients; sometimes includes callers to whom you've given 
consent to contact you
.   Fraud calls: An entity likely pretending to be someone they're not
with malicious intent
Option A: Block individual numbers one by one This is probably a hopeless 
endeavor if you're aiming to completely eradicate robocalls, but if there's a 
particular number that keeps calling, it's fairly easy to block it forever from 
your iPhone or Android phone. 

On iOS, just go to the Phone app, then your Recents, and tap the blue 
information icon to the right of the number you want to block. 
For Android, the process isn't much different: go to the Recents section of the 
Phone app, long press on the bothersome number, and choose block. On some 
Android phones, you'll also be given the option of reporting the number as 
spam. 

Again, this will take a lot of persistent work on your part to keep the 
spammers away - and it's good for absolutely nothing against blocked or private 
callers. 

Option B: Trust (or pay) your carrier to protect you Most of the major mobile 
providers have taken steps to insert themselves as a barrier between you and 
these annoying callers. Unfortunately, two of them make you pay an extra 
monthly fee for their effort. 

AT: Call Protect
Available for free for all postpaid customers. Unavailable on prepaid lines.
AT has a free app, Call Protect, that's designed to block some fraudulent 
robocalls from reaching you, and you won't have to do anything besides install 
the software on your phone. It won't completely block spam or telemarketer 
calls, however; instead, Call Protect will identify those callers as "Suspected 
Spam" when the phone rings and give you the option of blocking their number in 
the future. Users can also manually block any numbers they'd like and report 
numbers to help improve the database.
The important caveats to know are that Call Protect is only available to 
postpaid customers; prepaid customers can't use it at all. And the "Suspected 
Spam" feature only works in areas with AT HD Voice coverage.
Also, the app is unable to block unknown callers altogether. 
Download for iPhone | Download for Android
Sprint: Premium Caller ID ($2.99 / month) If you're willing to add an extra 
charge to your monthly bill, Sprint's Premium Caller ID will identify spam 
callers and anyone not in your contacts list. It flags robocalls and spammers 
and assigns a "threat level" to give you an indication of how suspect the call 
might be.
But despite costing a premium, Sprint's solution doesn't automatically block 
anything from getting through. You can block future calls from a number or 
report it, but the best Premium 

RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, I did call them about this and was told that they would get this info to 
their developers but I never heard anything else from them. This was about a 
year ago. In addition, I was invited to join their beta program but as soon as 
I mentioned I was a VoiceOver blind user of their product, I never heard from 
the beta program again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

Hi,
Yes I'm seeing this here too. I thought perhaps it might have something to do 
with its use of the microphone for communication. Has anyone opened a dialog 
with them about this to see if there's a logical reason behind it or if it's 
something that they didn't even realize would be an issue for VoiceOver users?
I only ask because my short exchanges with them gave me the sense that they 
might not have been as aware that blind people thus users of voiceover were 
even making as much use of their video oriented devices as might actually be 
the case.
Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Rick Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

Yes, this happens here as well. The problem is that for whatever reason, the 
audio output switches to the ear piece and on top of that, the volume is 
reduced quite a bit. I've learned to automatically put the phone to my ear and 
raise the volume with the volume button. It's annoying for sure.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yolanda Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

I have an 8 plus, and my biggest problem is that the volume when I answer the 
ring and enter the app goes waaay down.  Anyone else seeing this?

On 2/7/18, Carla <cd5...@comcast.net> wrote:
> OK thanks.  I may check it out again.  It's my alarm center that 
> installed it as we just upgraded our system and since we couldn't get 
> it to work he didn't charge me but I can have him come back and give 
> it another try.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> Make sure you go into Notification Centre and set it to Alerts and not 
> Banners as they go away.
>
> I do agree that answering it quickly can be a bit of a challenge, but 
> with a bit of practice you’ll get it.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> When it gave the notification it took me forever to find the right 
> place to double tap.  I know it is on the top of the screen and the 
> installer told me it was a green button which didn't do me any good 
> lol!  I mean it wasn't an easy access at all to get in to and to get 
> out of.  He took it back but I would get another one if we could make 
> it work.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> I do use it and it works OK, it has a few quirks, but all in all it 
> works OK. What exactly is the issue you have?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> Is anyone using the Ring Doorbell App?  I got one but find it not easy 
> to work.  Any help with voiceover with this app would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> If it isn't going to work I need to know soon.  Thanks!
>
>
>
> Carla
>
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RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, this happens here as well. The problem is that for whatever reason, the 
audio output switches to the ear piece and on top of that, the volume is 
reduced quite a bit. I've learned to automatically put the phone to my ear and 
raise the volume with the volume button. It's annoying for sure.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yolanda Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App

I have an 8 plus, and my biggest problem is that the volume when I answer the 
ring and enter the app goes waaay down.  Anyone else seeing this?

On 2/7/18, Carla  wrote:
> OK thanks.  I may check it out again.  It's my alarm center that 
> installed it as we just upgraded our system and since we couldn't get 
> it to work he didn't charge me but I can have him come back and give it 
> another try.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> Make sure you go into Notification Centre and set it to Alerts and not 
> Banners as they go away.
>
> I do agree that answering it quickly can be a bit of a challenge, but 
> with a bit of practice you’ll get it.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>  > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> When it gave the notification it took me forever to find the right 
> place to double tap.  I know it is on the top of the screen and the 
> installer told me it was a green button which didn't do me any good 
> lol!  I mean it wasn't an easy access at all to get in to and to get 
> out of.  He took it back but I would get another one if we could make it work.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> I do use it and it works OK, it has a few quirks, but all in all it 
> works OK. What exactly is the issue you have?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>  > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Question Regarding The Ring Doorbell App
>
>
>
> Is anyone using the Ring Doorbell App?  I got one but find it not easy 
> to work.  Any help with voiceover with this app would be greatly appreciated.
> If it isn't going to work I need to know soon.  Thanks!
>
>
>
> Carla
>
>
>
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RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Sieghard.

 

Have you considered trying out the Sleep Phones from www.sleepPhones 
 .com ?

 

They come in both wired and BT versions. I have not tried them personally but 
they sure sound like they would fit the bill for you.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys

 

Hello,

 

I’m a huge Audible/audio book fan and often listen at night after my wife goes 
to bed. I therefore am always on the lookout for the perfect way to listen so 
it doesn’t disturb my wife but so it’s also comfortable for me since I often 
fall asleep listening. 
I often just use my iPhone and wired Earpods, but sometimes that of course 
results in me waking up during the middle of the night lying on my iPhone and 
with Earpods wrapped around me. I have tried a pillow speaker which I purchased 
from Amazon, but it wasn’t for me. I sometimes use my Plantronics Voyager Edge 
which just a single earpiece and if it ends up somewhere in the bed under me 
it’s not so bad, but it’s also not quite perfect yet.

I recently purchased two larger headsets and something called a bluetooth 
receiver/transmitter, here some links:

 

Jabra Move – link to the canadian Jabra website 
 

Jabra Move – link to Best Buy Canada 

 , regular $109.99 on sale until today for $69.99

I actually bought this on Amazon.ca for $88 so seeing on Best Buy Canada on 
sale for $69.99 is a bummer, but anyhow, I quite like this headset. It’s an 
on-ear headset which is very comfortable and well-built. Only thing for me is 
that the on/off switch which  is a slider is on the right ear and the 
play/pause button and volume up/down is on the left which I find a bit awkward.

It claims 8 hours of battery life and can be used in wired mode as well and I 
quite like it when headsets offer both options.

 

Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon.com 

  $118.00

Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon Canada $199.99 

 

Sony MDRXB950BT review 

 

These are over-the-ear headphones which have noise cancelling and a base boost 
feature and they are awesome, but a bit larger than the Jabra Move.

I was able to get them on sale on Amazon Canada during Boxing Week for $124.99 
Canadian which is under $100 US so that was a really good deal.

I love the controls, the on/off is a button, but the headphones have a very 
pleasant and high quality female voice and say things like “Power On”, “Power 
Off”, “Pairing mode” etc.

The play/pause is on the right ear and it’s a button but it ccan also be 
pusshed up/down for skip/jump back and if you push and hold it it will fast 
forward/rewind.

They sound fantastic, are very comfortable and what I would expect from Sony. I 
have seen reviews where they are favouribly compared with Bose and Beats 
headsets which cost much more.

 

The last item I bought is a dual mode bluetooth receiver/transmitter, it can 
connect to a TV, stereo etc. by 3.5mm/RCA analogue or optical digital 
connection and this allows you to make a non-bluetooth device into one you can 
listen to with a bluetooth headset or speaker. Here the Amazon.ca link:

 

Miccus LONG RANGE Dual Link Bluetooth Transmitter and Bluetooth Receiver, aptX 
Low Latency audio. Wireless adapter for TV, stereo, speakers, Phone, PC. Auto 
optical pass through - (Home RTX 2.0) 

 

It’s a little box, maybe the size of an iPhone 7 (not a Plus) and it has a 
3.5mm analogue input and output in the back as well as an optical digital input 
and output and it comes with a little antenna which is attached in the back in 
the middle. It also has a micro USB port for power.

I bought this in order to basically bluetooth enable my Sonos system. I have 
waited for a long time for Sonos to come out with a Sonos headset, but at this 
point Sonos is all about listening out loud via speakers, they now are focusing 
on their voice smartspeakers which support Alexa and soon will support Google 
Assistant and Cortana and I have a feeling that a headset is not coming soon 
although I’m sure it will come at some point since you find many posts on 
forums where people want one.

Anyhow, I plugged it into one of my Sonos Connect players using the optical 
digital cable and at first it seemed to work great with the Jabra Move headset. 

RE: Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mary.

 

I prefer the Apple TV for a couple of reasons. One is what you said, AirPlay 
since I have so many Apple devices here. The other is that I prefer the way 
Audio Description is implemented via their Movies app. If I rent a movie, my 
preference for AD is remembered and I don’t have to specifically choose AD 
under languages. That hasn’t been my experience on the Fire TV.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV

 

Hi Rick,
I’m curious why you prefer your AppleTV fourth-generation over the fire TV 
stick. I to have both of those, and these days, I think I actually prefer the 
fire stick. Of course I don’t take a vantage of the music sending etc. that I 
could do with my AppleTV, so perhaps that’s why. Nothing against the Apple TV. 
But if I hadn’t already purchased one, I don’t think I would get one now, 
because it seems like the fire stick does everything I wanted to do, and it was 
a lot cheaper.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 21, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com 
<mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi.

 

The fire TV is actually quite accessible. It uses VoiceView as its screen 
reader also found on their tablets. I have both the fire TV and apple TV 4th 
gen and still prefer the apple TV but the Fire TV is actually quite good as 
well, especially if you have Prime Video.

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV

 

I thought the Fire TV was not accessible or has Amazon changed that?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV

 

I don’t think so. I do have an Apple TV fourth generation, although I don’t use 
it that much frankly. But I do scan the technical press every day, and I 
haven’t seen anything about the release. So I don’t think they have. Frankly I 
think the fire TV stick is a better deal at this point as opposed to the Apple 
TV.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


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<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi,

 

Has Amazon released the Amazon Prime Video app for the Apple TV in the US? Just 
signed up for the 30-day free trial of Amazon Prime, but when I checked the App 
Store on my 4th generation Apple TV it did not find it.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi.

 

The fire TV is actually quite accessible. It uses VoiceView as its screen 
reader also found on their tablets. I have both the fire TV and apple TV 4th 
gen and still prefer the apple TV but the Fire TV is actually quite good as 
well, especially if you have Prime Video.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV

 

I thought the Fire TV was not accessible or has Amazon changed that?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Amazon Prime Video on Apple TV

 

I don’t think so. I do have an Apple TV fourth generation, although I don’t use 
it that much frankly. But I do scan the technical press every day, and I 
haven’t seen anything about the release. So I don’t think they have. Frankly I 
think the fire TV stick is a better deal at this point as opposed to the Apple 
TV.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 20, 2017, at 7:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

Hi,

 

Has Amazon released the Amazon Prime Video app for the Apple TV in the US? Just 
signed up for the 30-day free trial of Amazon Prime, but when I checked the App 
Store on my 4th generation Apple TV it did not find it.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Ed. It is listed on amazon as Nest Learning Thermostat 3rd generation. I 
don’t know the specific model number but this will find it for you right away.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

Hi Rick,

What is the model number you have of this thermostat?

Mr. Ed

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

I now have the Nest thermostat installed and am very happy to report that the 
Nest app is quite accessible. I’m able to change various settings and raise or 
lower the temperature. I’ve also linked it to both Alexa and Google Home so 
controlling it by voice is really nice and works very well.

 

I have the Nest set to work as a learning thermostat so I haven’t messed with 
schedules yet and am just allowing Nest to do its thing and create it’s 
schedules by learning from my commands to set temperatures throughout the day. 
The Nest also knows when nobody is home and it set’s itself to Away mode to 
save energy. I’m very pleased with the Nest learning thermostat.

 

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RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

[Rick Alfaro]

Les, here is what I did to link it to Alexa.

 

After installing the Nest and creating a Nest account, I had Alexa “discover” 
the Nest. You can do this either from the Alexa app or by telling your Echo 
product to “discover”.

 

In the Alexa app, I went into the skills section and did a search for Nest. I 
found the Nest skill and enabled it. You are taken to the Nest site where you 
have to put in your credentials for logging into your Nest account. Once you do 
that you get a screen letting you know that the Nest is now linked to Alexa. 
After that I created a group called Thermostat but that is actually optional. 
When using Alexa to control the stat, it will understand whatever name you 
assigned to your Nest when you first set it up. In my case it was “Upstairs” 
which is actually the location of where the Nest is installed.

 

At this point you should be able to issue commands using the name you assigned 
as the Nest’s location so in my case, I can say “Alexa, set upstairs to 76 
degrees” and it’s done and Alexa replies by saying “upstairs is set to 76 
degrees”. 

 

Now, because I also set a group called “thermostat” I can also use the word 
thermostat to issue commands to Alexa. So far the commands I’ve been able to 
use are:

Set Upstairs to XX degrees

Raise upstairs x degrees

Lower upstairs x degrees

What is upstairs set to

What is the temperature inside

Set upstairs to cool or heat

Set upstairs to away or home

 

There may be other commands but those ar the ones that I’ve used thus far 
successfully. 

 

If you do a search on YouTube, you will find several videos demonstrating some 
of these commands. 

 

Also, take a look at:

https://nest.com/support/article/Learn-how-to-control-your-Nest-Thermostat-with-Amazon-Alexa-on-Echo-and-Fire-TV

 

There you will find some guide lines with additional links pointing to other 
pages where you can dive deeper. HTH

 

 

 

 

 

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Les Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

Hi Rick,

 

Glad you are happy with the Nest.  I have had the Nest for a couple of years, 
and like you, I haven’t worried about the schedule.  I let it determine our 
habits and remember them.  I will say that I have encountered some problems 
when we’re away when it saves energy.  For some reason, the thermostat’s 
program got activated while we were away.  So when traveling, I deactivate that 
feature.  Sometimes, I think these devices outsmart themselves!  I do have a 
question.  Can you assist me with linking the Nest with Alexa?  I thought I had 
done it, but apparently not, as it doesn’t respond to Voice Commands.  What 
Voice Commands work?  Thanks for any assistance.

Best,

 

Les

 

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From: Rick Alfaro <mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: WiFi thermostats, an update

 

I now have the Nest thermostat installed and am very happy to report that the 
Nest app is quite accessible. I’m able to change various settings and raise or 
lower the temperature. I’ve also linked it to both Alexa and Google Home so 
controlling it by voice is really nice and works very well.

 

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The Nest also knows when nobody is home and it set’s itself to Away mode to 
save energy. I’m very pleased with the Nest learning thermostat.

 

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[Rick Alfaro]

I now have the Nest thermostat installed and am very happy to report that
the Nest app is quite accessible. I'm able to change various settings and
raise or lower the temperature. I've also linked it to both Alexa and Google
Home so controlling it by voice is really nice and works very well.

 

I have the Nest set to work as a learning thermostat so I haven't messed
with schedules yet and am just allowing Nest to do its thing and create it's
schedules by learning from my commands to set temperatures throughout the
day. The Nest also knows when nobody is home and it set's itself to Away
mode to save energy. I'm very pleased with the Nest learning thermostat.

 

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RE: for all T-mobile users

[Rick Alfaro]

Interesting, I'm not able to drill down into my bill to see a detailed view. 
Are you doing anything special to dive into any of those links?



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Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: for all T-mobile users

As far as the T mobile app is concerned, no issues, but a lot of trouble with 
the T Mobile Tuesdays app.

Andy

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Subject: for all T-mobile users


> Hello everyone,
>
>
> For all of you here who use T-Mobile, have you ever had problems using
> the T-mobile app?
>
> It doesn't seem too accessible.
>
> Also, if you go to their my T-Mobile website with a computer, do you
> have any issues entering your ID, and password?
>
> Every time I go to enter my password, my caps lock key gets turned on.
> I've never seen this before.
>
>
> Any help would be much appreciated. I need to view details of my bill.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Terri
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RE: for all T-mobile users

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. Regarding the TMobile app, definitely yes. It isn't very accessible for the 
most important things. I'm not able to view a summary of my bill for example. 
All I can get to is the total amount due which is on the first page. 

Regarding the web site, I have no issues really and am able to do pretty much 
what I want. The screen reader is incorrectly reporting that caps lock is on 
when it really isn't so I just ignore that and enter in my login information 
with no trouble.



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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:24 AM
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Subject: for all T-mobile users

Hello everyone,


For all of you here who use T-Mobile, have you ever had problems using the 
T-mobile app?

It doesn't seem too accessible.

Also, if you go to their my T-Mobile website with a computer, do you have any 
issues entering your ID, and password?

Every time I go to enter my password, my caps lock key gets turned on. 
I've never seen this before.


Any help would be much appreciated. I need to view details of my bill.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: WiFi thermostats

[Rick Alfaro]

I believe you are correct. For some reason I thought it did but after checking 
more carefully, HomeKit isn’t supported. Of the stats I researched, the only 2 
that support it seem to be the Sensi and the Ecobee3 and 4 whose apps are 
reported to be inaccessible from what I’ve read. 

 

Since it looks like I might have to be restricted to using Alexa for voice 
control, I also did some more research on the Nest and found a section in their 
history of updates which stated improvements for blind users so I downloaded 
the app, created a Nest account and I seemed to be able to navigate the app 
pretty well with VO. In addition, I also found there are skills available that 
allow you to ask Alexa for quite a bit of info including the current temp. For 
these reasons, I decided to order the Nest third generation and just received 
it.

 

As soon as I can get it installed, I’ll report back to the list on how 
accessible it is for me.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats

 

As far as I know the Honeywell does not support Home Kit/SIRI. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats

 

Chip, thanks for the great summary. So far I’m leaning to the Honeywell 
RTH9585WF1004 since it’s app looks to be at least somewhat workable. The 
Ecobee4 looked interesting but I found the demo mode in the app to mostly be 
inaccessible with no way to interact with the controls with VO.

 

The skill you mentioned sounds very interesting. Is there any skill available 
that will allow you to create schedules? Also, how much can you really do via 
the Echo or Siri? I get the feeling it’s quite limited.

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats

 

I have several years of experience with the Nest thermostats:  we own two, and 
we have two Nest smoke detectors as well (primarily because they will call your 
phone if an emergency occurs at home).

 

The Nest app is moderately accessible … I have not been able to set schedules 
using it.  Also, if the thermostat has a problem connecting to your wifi, or 
via the internet to the Nest main servers, it will display error messages only 
on the thermostat (which you usually have to have sighted help to deal with).

 

You could get around the inability to set schedules by use of the “learning” 
feature (having your installer clear all learning after installation and 
testing is very helpful).  Each time you make an adjustment to the temp, the 
idea is that if it sees you do this repeatedly it will make a schedule for you.

 

My wife found it confusing when it would suddenly make a temperature setting 
change without explanation, so we eventually turned off learning (I guess it’s 
a personal preference).

 

It’s very nice that the Nest will manage humidity in a home which has a 
two-speed or a variable speed system.  It does this by running the system at 
slower speeds when the humidity rises too high.  Even with a standard single 
speed system the Nest will manage humidity by “over-cooling” up to 4 degrees if 
you enable this feature.  However, it takes sighted assistance to adjust the 
humidity level setting (it’s not something you usually ever adjust again 
however).

 

It’s a very good idea to get an installer who is certified as a “Nest Pro”, so 
ask them.  Turns out my installer was not, and I am still arguing with them, 
and trying to teach them about Nest features.  Their one employee who 
understood Nest thermostats has left them.

 

If you have both Nest thermostats and smoke detectors, if you have any smoke 
the detectors will cause your heating or air conditioning to shut off to stop 
the spread of smoke … a nice feature.  Their smoke detectors report the problem 
with a recorded voice announcement, along with its location, such as “low 
battery in the dining room” or “smoke in the up stairs”, so this is also nice.  
They self test themselves monthly, and report the results to you via the app.

 

While the ability to control Nest thermostats is built into the Echo, I use a 
third party Skill called “The Thermostat” because it allows me to ask it what 
is the humidity in the up stairs, and other such additional questions and 
commands, so you may want to look into this skill as it works with many models.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

RE: 5 reasons to use Edge in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - CNET

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mark. I'm curious to know if anyone has tried out the IOS version of Edge to 
see how well it works with VO? I think you are a low vision guy but have you 
tried Edge with VoiceOver?



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Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 5 reasons to use Edge in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this because Apple compatibility is mentioned in the article.

Mark  

5 reasons to use Edge in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - CNET

CNET How To - Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 11:05 AM
5 reasons to use Edge in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - CNET With Windows 10 
Fall Creators Update, Microsoft has added a handful of new features and tweaks 
to its Edge browser. I doubt they will be enough to pry you away from your 
browser of choice, but the Edge browser continues to trend in the right 
direction. Here are the five big improvements Microsoft has made to Edge with 
its most recent Windows update. 
Pin pages to the taskbar
Not seen since Windows 8, you can once again pin websites to the taskbar. To do 
so, click the triple-dot button along the Edge window's right edge and choose 
Pin this page to the taskbar. 
 
You can put your favorite websites on your taskbar for fast access. 
Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
True full-screen mode
Edge finally has a true, full-screen mode where you lose the browser's menus 
and tabs at the top. Hit F11 to toggle in and out of full-screen mode or click 
the triple-dot button and then click the diagonal double-arrow button to the 
right of the zoom controls. 
Better integration with your phone

Edge promises to let you start an article on your phone and then pick it where 
you left off on your PC, but you'll need to use a preview version of Edge for 
iOS or Android or the Cortana app for iOS or Android to try it out.
And you'll need to connect your phone to your PC in the new Phone section of 
the Settings app, which you'll find on the main page of Settings. I tried it 
out by installing the Cortana app on my iPhone ($849.00 at Apple). I opened a 
news article and tapped the blue button to continue reading on my PC. It worked 
seamlessly; as soon as I tapped the button on my phone, a new tab opened on 
Edge on my PC. 
 
Heading home? Send the article you are reading on your phone to your PC.
Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
Better bookmarking
Click the star button in Edge (or hit Control-D) and you'll see Edge's bookmark 
menu got a design refresh and better illustrates the folder hierarchy for your 
favorites, making it quicker and easier to find a folder to plop a new 
favorite. And on the Favorites hub itself, you'll find two new items on the 
right-click menu -- Sort by name and Edit URL. The former lets you arrange a 
list of favorites alphabetically and the latter lets you quickly edit a 
favorite's URL. 
Better PDF and eBook reader
Microsoft added a few tools to make Edge more capable with PDFs and eBooks for 
touchscren PCs. With PDFs, you can now click the Add Notes button to the right 
of the URL bar to ink on the PDF, from signing your name and highlighting lines 
to adding comments and copying text. It's particularly useful for signing 
documents -- no longer will you need to add a weird electronic signature or, 
worse, print, sign and scan a PDF in order to send back a signed copy. 
 
You can add highlights and notes to eBooks as well as PDF files.
Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
For eBooks, students (and habitual notetakers) will rejoice at being able to 
mark up eBooks as you read them. Just highlight some text and a small menu will 
appear that lets you highlight the text, underline it, add a comment, copy it 
or open a Cortana panel along the Edge window's right edge without leaving the 
page you are on. 
Read more: The 10 best new features of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 
 
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https://www.cnet.com/how-to/5-reasons-to-use-edge-windows-10-fall-creators-u
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RE: WiFi thermostats

[Rick Alfaro]

Richard,

 

Are you able to setup your own schedule via the app independently when using 
the TCC app?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WiFi thermostats

 

 

rick, 

The honeywell app works very well. The only thing I really wish was exposed to 
VoiceOver is the current inside/outside temperature reading. You can use the 
voice button and ask, but that is a bit hit and miss. 

I like the fact that you can make adjustments from anywhere.

Richard

 





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com 
<mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Chip, thanks for the great summary. So far I’m leaning to the Honeywell 
RTH9585WF1004 since it’s app looks to be at least somewhat workable. The 
Ecobee4 looked interesting but I found the demo mode in the app to mostly be 
inaccessible with no way to interact with the controls with VO.

 

The skill you mentioned sounds very interesting. Is there any skill available 
that will allow you to create schedules? Also, how much can you really do via 
the Echo or Siri? I get the feeling it’s quite limited.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats

 

I have several years of experience with the Nest thermostats:  we own two, and 
we have two Nest smoke detectors as well (primarily because they will call your 
phone if an emergency occurs at home).

 

The Nest app is moderately accessible … I have not been able to set schedules 
using it.  Also, if the thermostat has a problem connecting to your wifi, or 
via the internet to the Nest main servers, it will display error messages only 
on the thermostat (which you usually have to have sighted help to deal with).

 

You could get around the inability to set schedules by use of the “learning” 
feature (having your installer clear all learning after installation and 
testing is very helpful).  Each time you make an adjustment to the temp, the 
idea is that if it sees you do this repeatedly it will make a schedule for you.

 

My wife found it confusing when it would suddenly make a temperature setting 
change without explanation, so we eventually turned off learning (I guess it’s 
a personal preference).

 

It’s very nice that the Nest will manage humidity in a home which has a 
two-speed or a variable speed system.  It does this by running the system at 
slower speeds when the humidity rises too high.  Even with a standard single 
speed system the Nest will manage humidity by “over-cooling” up to 4 degrees if 
you enable this feature.  However, it takes sighted assistance to adjust the 
humidity level setting (it’s not something you usually ever adjust again 
however).

 

It’s a very good idea to get an installer who is certified as a “Nest Pro”, so 
ask them.  Turns out my installer was not, and I am still arguing with them, 
and trying to teach them about Nest features.  Their one employee who 
understood Nest thermostats has left them.

 

If you have both Nest thermostats and smoke detectors, if you have any smoke 
the detectors will cause your heating or air conditioning to shut off to stop 
the spread of smoke … a nice feature.  Their smoke detectors report the problem 
with a recorded voice announcement, along with its location, such as “low 
battery in the dining room” or “smoke in the up stairs”, so this is also nice.  
They self test themselves monthly, and report the results to you via the app.

 

While the ability to control Nest thermostats is built into the Echo, I use a 
third party Skill called “The Thermostat” because it allows me to ask it what 
is the humidity in the up stairs, and other such additional questions and 
commands, so you may want to look into this skill as it works with many models.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: WiFi thermostats

 

Hello listers. I know this topic has been discussed several times on this list. 
At the time I had a functioning WiFi thermostat from Radio Thermostats known as 
the Filtreet CT50. 

 

Unfortunately, it’s bitten the dust and no longer connects to my network, even 
not after long hours of trouble shooting including the wiring. It’s time for me 
to move on so I’d like to purchase a thermostat that works with Alexa. The one 
I’ve seen on Amazon is the Ecobee3 lite second gen for $168 via Prime shipping. 
Of course the real issue is whether or not it’s IOS app is workable wi

RE: WiFi thermostats

[Rick Alfaro]

Chip, thanks for the great summary. So far I’m leaning to the Honeywell 
RTH9585WF1004 since it’s app looks to be at least somewhat workable. The 
Ecobee4 looked interesting but I found the demo mode in the app to mostly be 
inaccessible with no way to interact with the controls with VO.

 

The skill you mentioned sounds very interesting. Is there any skill available 
that will allow you to create schedules? Also, how much can you really do via 
the Echo or Siri? I get the feeling it’s quite limited.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats

 

I have several years of experience with the Nest thermostats:  we own two, and 
we have two Nest smoke detectors as well (primarily because they will call your 
phone if an emergency occurs at home).

 

The Nest app is moderately accessible … I have not been able to set schedules 
using it.  Also, if the thermostat has a problem connecting to your wifi, or 
via the internet to the Nest main servers, it will display error messages only 
on the thermostat (which you usually have to have sighted help to deal with).

 

You could get around the inability to set schedules by use of the “learning” 
feature (having your installer clear all learning after installation and 
testing is very helpful).  Each time you make an adjustment to the temp, the 
idea is that if it sees you do this repeatedly it will make a schedule for you.

 

My wife found it confusing when it would suddenly make a temperature setting 
change without explanation, so we eventually turned off learning (I guess it’s 
a personal preference).

 

It’s very nice that the Nest will manage humidity in a home which has a 
two-speed or a variable speed system.  It does this by running the system at 
slower speeds when the humidity rises too high.  Even with a standard single 
speed system the Nest will manage humidity by “over-cooling” up to 4 degrees if 
you enable this feature.  However, it takes sighted assistance to adjust the 
humidity level setting (it’s not something you usually ever adjust again 
however).

 

It’s a very good idea to get an installer who is certified as a “Nest Pro”, so 
ask them.  Turns out my installer was not, and I am still arguing with them, 
and trying to teach them about Nest features.  Their one employee who 
understood Nest thermostats has left them.

 

If you have both Nest thermostats and smoke detectors, if you have any smoke 
the detectors will cause your heating or air conditioning to shut off to stop 
the spread of smoke … a nice feature.  Their smoke detectors report the problem 
with a recorded voice announcement, along with its location, such as “low 
battery in the dining room” or “smoke in the up stairs”, so this is also nice.  
They self test themselves monthly, and report the results to you via the app.

 

While the ability to control Nest thermostats is built into the Echo, I use a 
third party Skill called “The Thermostat” because it allows me to ask it what 
is the humidity in the up stairs, and other such additional questions and 
commands, so you may want to look into this skill as it works with many models.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: WiFi thermostats

 

Hello listers. I know this topic has been discussed several times on this list. 
At the time I had a functioning WiFi thermostat from Radio Thermostats known as 
the Filtreet CT50. 

 

Unfortunately, it’s bitten the dust and no longer connects to my network, even 
not after long hours of trouble shooting including the wiring. It’s time for me 
to move on so I’d like to purchase a thermostat that works with Alexa. The one 
I’ve seen on Amazon is the Ecobee3 lite second gen for $168 via Prime shipping. 
Of course the real issue is whether or not it’s IOS app is workable with 
VoiceOver. If anyone has had any experience with this brand, I’d be interested 
in knowing your experience in terms of accessibility.

 

There are 2 other thermostats that work with Alexa. The Nest learning and the 
Honeywell RTH9585WF1004 so if anyone has any experience with either of these, 
I’d also be grateful for any feedback with regard to their respective 
accessibility.

 

 

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WiFi thermostats

[Rick Alfaro]

Hello listers. I know this topic has been discussed several times on this
list. At the time I had a functioning WiFi thermostat from Radio Thermostats
known as the Filtreet CT50. 

 

Unfortunately, it's bitten the dust and no longer connects to my network,
even not after long hours of trouble shooting including the wiring. It's
time for me to move on so I'd like to purchase a thermostat that works with
Alexa. The one I've seen on Amazon is the Ecobee3 lite second gen for $168
via Prime shipping. Of course the real issue is whether or not it's IOS app
is workable with VoiceOver. If anyone has had any experience with this
brand, I'd be interested in knowing your experience in terms of
accessibility.

 

There are 2 other thermostats that work with Alexa. The Nest learning and
the Honeywell RTH9585WF1004 so if anyone has any experience with either of
these, I'd also be grateful for any feedback with regard to their respective
accessibility.

 

 

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RE: swiping gestures not working very well on the apple tv 4

[Rick Alfaro]

I don’t have an answer but I’m experiencing the same thing. I’ll have to shoot 
an email off to Apple accessibility and you should probably do the same if you 
can.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: swiping gestures not working very well on the apple tv 4

 

I have the older apple tv 4th generation. After it updated to the latest OS, 
trying to select a play list by swiping on the remote is almost impossible. 
Each swipe seems to send the playlist list skittering all over the place, the 
swipe moves the list up or down by dozens. Any thoughts?

 

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RE: Looking for a med reminder app

[Rick Alfaro]

Thanks Richard. I’ll check it out.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a med reminder app

 


 


rick, I do not know if this is still active, but it was recommended a couple 
years ago.

'"Simply, Pill Alert, $1.99

>From the app description: Pill Alert will show you whether you missed taking a 
>dosage, and also show you how late you were taking it. Just say: Daily pills, 
>and select Once a day, and tell the app that you have taken them. Make your 
>schedule as complicated as you wish. Alerts you when your pills are due. You 
>don't need to have the app running.

*   Shows you how late are you taking your pills if you have missed an 
alert 


*   There are no complicated settings or unnecessary features.



 <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/simply-pill-alert/id393842471?mt=8> Simply, 
Pill Alert in the App Store

 

 


On Oct 10, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com 
<mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi.

 

I’m looking for an app that will allow me to input my meds and remind me to 
take them.

 

There are many such apps like that out there and I’ve tried a few of them but 
so far I’ve run into accessibility issues with VO. If anyone out there can 
recommend an app that they find useful and accessible, I’d be grateful.

 

The app must be able to remind me to take my medication, and continue to annoy 
me until I’ve marked the med as being taken. I have a really bad habit of 
sometimes forgetting to take my meds which of course a problem.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I don’t really care if the app is free 
or paid.

 

 

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Looking for a med reminder app

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi.

 

I'm looking for an app that will allow me to input my meds and remind me to
take them.

 

There are many such apps like that out there and I've tried a few of them
but so far I've run into accessibility issues with VO. If anyone out there
can recommend an app that they find useful and accessible, I'd be grateful.

 

The app must be able to remind me to take my medication, and continue to
annoy me until I've marked the med as being taken. I have a really bad habit
of sometimes forgetting to take my meds which of course a problem.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I don't really care if the app is
free or paid.

 

 

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RE: A really nasty bug I noticed

[Rick Alfaro]

Not seeing this at all on my iPhone 8 plus.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:36 PM
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Subject: Re: A really nasty bug I noticed

I'm using the iPhone 7. As long as I get the click lock sound the phone charges 
fine. But if I plug it in and it locked and then hit the power to turn the 
screen off it doesn't click and doesn't charge.


On 10/5/2017 7:35 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
> I can’t duplicate this on a 5s what type of phone is it your using?
>
>
>
>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 6:27 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> So you plug your phone into the charger and hit the power button to lock the 
>> phone before you put it down. If you don't hear the click lock sound, the 
>> phone doesn't charge. When you unlock it the next time it says it's 
>> charging, however the battery percentage is where it was before you put it 
>> on the charger. So to avoid this, plug your phone in and unlock using the 
>> home button like usual. Then hit the power button and you'll get the click 
>> lock sound. Then the phone is charging. Has anyone else noticed this in IOS 
>> 11?
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RE: Apple Watch data

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. I just went through this, twice as a matter of fact. The easiest way is to 
just unpair your old watch via the watch app on your iPhone. This should take 
care of everything regarding your old watch. Once you unpair the old one, turn 
on your new watch while you are right by your iPhone and you should get 
prompted to pair a new Apple Watch. If you don’t get prompted, just open your 
watch app and you will see the prompt. HTH

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:46 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Apple Watch data

 

Hi Anna, and others who have upgraded their AppleWatch.

I made the plunge to the GPS model.

 

Any advice for steps on how to deal with decommissioning my original AppleWatch 
and setting up the new one? Should be here on Tuesday.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Apple Watch data

 

Hi,

 

Unpairing the watch erases it completely. I think you would have to pair it 
again to be able to get to the Reset option.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Chris Chaffin  > wrote:

 


First unpair your watch from your phone.  Then go to Settings on your watch and 
reset your watch.

To get to reset on your watch, go to settings, general, and reset.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris

 


On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:29 AM, denise Avant <  
denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I am passing my Apple watch to someone else. Is it enough to disconnect the 
watch from my phone or is there a reset function to clear out any of my data? 
Thanks.

 

 

 

 

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RE: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes it is. I believe it’s about $70 cheaper than the LTE model.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:23 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

 

Thanks for this. Is the GPS model the least expensive? I don’t want the LTE, I 
know that for sure. Keith

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

 

Hi. I upgraded from an original series watch to a series 3. My original watch 
seemed to get slower and clunkier with each OS upgrade. When I put OS 4 on it, 
it was really unbearable at least in my opinion.

 

My new series 3 GPS model now is like night and day. Everything is nice and 
snappy and very responsive. My original watch was so sluggish with OS 4 that I 
actually stopped using it until I received my series 3.

 

If you can swing it, go for it because the difference is huge. I think that if 
I had had a series 2, I probably would not have upgraded but the original is 
now sorely underpowered.

 

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:42 PM
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Subject: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

 

Hi,

 

I have a first generation AppleWatch, and haven’t yet decided whether to 
upgrade to a Series 3. I’m still with Watch OS 3. Has anyone updated a First 
generation AppleWatch to Watch OS 4? If so, I’d appreciate learning of your 
experience with this combo.

 

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

[Rick Alfaro]

There is no trade-in program as far as I’m aware. I had to buy the new series 3 
watch but I got the model without LTE which saved me a few bucks. I still have 
my old apple watch. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Portillo
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

 

Did you have to actually buy a whole new watch, or were you able to sell your 
old watch or trade it in for part of the price for a new one?

Sent from my iPhone 7!


On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com 
<mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi. I upgraded from an original series watch to a series 3. My original watch 
seemed to get slower and clunkier with each OS upgrade. When I put OS 4 on it, 
it was really unbearable at least in my opinion.

 

My new series 3 GPS model now is like night and day. Everything is nice and 
snappy and very responsive. My original watch was so sluggish with OS 4 that I 
actually stopped using it until I received my series 3.

 

If you can swing it, go for it because the difference is huge. I think that if 
I had had a series 2, I probably would not have upgraded but the original is 
now sorely underpowered.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

 

Hi,

 

I have a first generation AppleWatch, and haven’t yet decided whether to 
upgrade to a Series 3. I’m still with Watch OS 3. Has anyone updated a First 
generation AppleWatch to Watch OS 4? If so, I’d appreciate learning of your 
experience with this combo.

 

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch

[Rick Alfaro]

VoiceOver works fine but there is one oddity with this face that Jonathan 
discovered in his unboxing podcast. If VO is running, all Siri responses are 
made using the regular Samantha voice you are used to on the watch. If VO is 
turned off however, Siri responds with the new Siri Female voice which is much 
more pleasant to listen to. I don't know if this is due to some sort of 
technical restriction, a bug, or just an oversight but I did report it to Apple 
accessibility.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:18 PM
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Watch

Very cool. Any one know how well VoiceOver works with this face? Keith

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Subject: watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch

9to5Mac - Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:51 AM watchOS 4: How to customize 
and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch
 
watchOS 4 introduces a new Siri watch face on Apple Watch that intelligently 
updates to show you relevant content throughout the day. The Siri watch face 
pulls data from 14 different sources by default, but customizing these sources 
can help remove information from the timeline that you don't need and make the 
watch face more useful.
 
The Siri watch face includes a digital clock with a flashing second indicator 
(but no option for seconds), two customizable complications including a new 
Siri complication, and two dynamic tiles of information.
These tiles will update depending on time of day, date, current events, 
activity progress, and more.
Like other watch faces, swiping down from the top reveals Notification Center 
and swiping up from the bottom opens Control Center. Spin the Digital Crown on 
Siri face, however, and the timeline becomes a vertical carousel of information.
Rotating the Digital Crown downward shows Recent and All-Day tiles like 
temperature highs and lows and Now Playing cards. The tap minimizes to the top 
right corner with a light background indicating that it's a button you can tap 
to return to the main view. You can also click the Digital Crown to leave the 
timeline and go back to the starting point.
Rotating the Digital Crown upward shows you tiles for Up Next and Tomorrow.
Siri face previews the first Up Next tiles by default, and scrolling here 
reveals more. Rolling the Digital Crown lets you move around the timeline too.
 
While these tiles change dynamically, Siri face features two complications that 
you set. My default, the new Siri complication is located in the top left (this 
is the only face with this complication) and the date is located above the 
digital clock.
Tapping the Siri complication invokes the voice assistant just like holding the 
Digital Crown or saying 'Hey Siri' when the display is on. It's a visually 
satisfying complication, but you may get more use out of Siri face if you put 
something else here since you can invoke Siri with voice or a click.
 
Press the Siri face firmly, then select Customize to choose between Activity, 
Alarm, Battery, Breathe, Calendar, Date, Find My Friends, Heart Rate, Home, 
Mail, Maps, Messages, Moon Phase, Music, News, Phone, Reminders, Remote, Siri, 
Stocks, Stopwatch, Sunrise/Sunset, Timer, Weather, Weather Conditions, Workout, 
World Clock, and third-party complications.
The top right complication is a bit smaller and can be set to Alarm, Battery, 
Calendar, Date, Heart Rate, News, Stocks, Stopwatch, Sunrise/Sunset, Timer, 
Weather, World Clock, and third-party complications.
 
After you personalize the two complications, consider customizing which data 
sources Siri face uses. You can't do this from the Apple Watch, however, so 
you'll need your iPhone. Open the Watch app on your iPhone, look for the Siri 
face in the My Faces section (or add it from the Face Gallery tab at the 
bottom), then tap the Siri face to reveal customization options.
>From here you can set both complications just like on the Apple Watch, and a 
>Data Sources list lets you toggle apps that appear on Siri face on and off.
watchOS 4.0 includes 14 data sources: Alarms, Breathe, Calendar, Home, News, 
Now Playing, Photos, Reminders, Stocks, Stopwatch, Timer, Wallet, Weather, and 
Workout.
You can't use third-party apps as data sources (yet), but you can disable data 
sources that aren't useful for you and declutter the Siri face timeline. For 
example, I toggle off Photos, News, and Stocks to avoid seeing poorly chosen 
snapshots, the latest Trump headline, and stock market changes on my Siri face.
This cleans up the experience for me and only surfaces useful tiles like 
HomeKit scene triggers, exercise 

RE: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. I upgraded from an original series watch to a series 3. My original watch 
seemed to get slower and clunkier with each OS upgrade. When I put OS 4 on it, 
it was really unbearable at least in my opinion.

 

My new series 3 GPS model now is like night and day. Everything is nice and 
snappy and very responsive. My original watch was so sluggish with OS 4 that I 
actually stopped using it until I received my series 3.

 

If you can swing it, go for it because the difference is huge. I think that if 
I had had a series 2, I probably would not have upgraded but the original is 
now sorely underpowered.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is anyone using Watch OS 4 with a first generation Qpplewatch?

 

Hi,

 

I have a first generation AppleWatch, and haven’t yet decided whether to 
upgrade to a Series 3. I’m still with Watch OS 3. Has anyone updated a First 
generation AppleWatch to Watch OS 4? If so, I’d appreciate learning of your 
experience with this combo.

 

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

[Rick Alfaro]

I guess I just don't have the magic touch any more (lol)

Try as I may, following your tip to the tee, I still couldn't get that doc to 
go away. I have a tempered glass screen protector on my 8 plus. Wonder if it's 
interfering somehow? Or, is this maybe an iphone 8/8plus issue?



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

It is not the Store button, initially thought that was the one as well.
First of all, make sure you are in an iMessage not a regular text message.
Now, once you are in the edit field, swipe left once and you land on a button 
called "Messaging Apps", that is the one you want.
I tried to do a double tap and hold and swipe down after I put focus on that 
button and that for me at least didn't work. I had to actually find the button 
on the screen, then do a double tap and hold and swipe down when I was on that 
spot.
If that is the same for you, just move your finger left from the edit field and 
you'll find it, if you go past it on the very outside and to the left of that 
button is the "Attach Media" button.

Regards,
Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

Which button are we pressing and holding on? When I press and hold on the store 
button in that message doc nothing happens. Thanks for any assistance.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
> Try a long press instead of double-tap and hold. I had to do that on my 
> iPHone 7 to make it work.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark. I just tried this on my 8 plus and it didn't seem to work. I double 
>> tapping and holding then swiping down but nothing changed with regard to 
>> that annoying dock. This should be an option under messages in settings IMHO.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 8:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> As I loaned out my 6 S Plus running iOS 11, I cannot determine if there is a 
>> VoiceOver gesture that will allow the same option that is described in the 
>> article, below, but wanted to post the article anyway so that you know that 
>> it is possible to hide the iMessage App Doc, permanently, so long as you do 
>> not change iMessage apps.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> CNET How To - Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:06 AM Hide the annoying app 
>> dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET
>> 
>> One of the new features in Messages on iOS 11 is a dedicated app dock for 
>> your iMessage apps. You've undoubtedly seen it since updating earlier this 
>> week -- it's a row of app icons at the bottom of the screen each and every 
>> time you open a conversation.
>> 
>> I've seen a lot of complaints on Twitter, and have been asked privately a 
>> few times about hiding it. At first, I didn't think it was possible. Then I 
>> found the answer on Reddit.
>> 
>> Hide the app dock by placing your finger on the App Store icon next to the 
>> text field, and swipe down. 
>> 
>> Poof, it's gone.
>> 
>> There's a caveat, because of course there is. If you use an iMessage app in 
>> the future, the dock comes back. But you can repeat the quick gesture to get 
>> rid of it again.
>> 
>> Original Article At:
>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/hide-the-annoying-app-dock-in-ios-11s-messages-a
>> pp/#ftag=CAD5457c2c
>> 
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RE: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Anna. Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work for me either. Very 
strange. This was with VO running. Did you have to turn VO off first?



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

Hi Rick,

Try a long press instead of double-tap and hold. I had to do that on my iPHone 
7 to make it work.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 25, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark. I just tried this on my 8 plus and it didn't seem to work. I double 
> tapping and holding then swiping down but nothing changed with regard to that 
> annoying dock. This should be an option under messages in settings IMHO.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 8:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> As I loaned out my 6 S Plus running iOS 11, I cannot determine if there is a 
> VoiceOver gesture that will allow the same option that is described in the 
> article, below, but wanted to post the article anyway so that you know that 
> it is possible to hide the iMessage App Doc, permanently, so long as you do 
> not change iMessage apps.
> 
> Mark
> 
> CNET How To - Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:06 AM Hide the annoying app 
> dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET
> 
> One of the new features in Messages on iOS 11 is a dedicated app dock for 
> your iMessage apps. You've undoubtedly seen it since updating earlier this 
> week -- it's a row of app icons at the bottom of the screen each and every 
> time you open a conversation.
> 
> I've seen a lot of complaints on Twitter, and have been asked privately a few 
> times about hiding it. At first, I didn't think it was possible. Then I found 
> the answer on Reddit.
> 
> Hide the app dock by placing your finger on the App Store icon next to the 
> text field, and swipe down. 
> 
> Poof, it's gone.
> 
> There's a caveat, because of course there is. If you use an iMessage app in 
> the future, the dock comes back. But you can repeat the quick gesture to get 
> rid of it again.
> 
> Original Article At:
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/hide-the-annoying-app-dock-in-ios-11s-messages-a
> pp/#ftag=CAD5457c2c
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RE: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mark. I just tried this on my 8 plus and it didn't seem to work. I double 
tapping and holding then swiping down but nothing changed with regard to that 
annoying dock. This should be an option under messages in settings IMHO.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

Hello Everyone,  

As I loaned out my 6 S Plus running iOS 11, I cannot determine if there is a 
VoiceOver gesture that will allow the same option that is described in the 
article, below, but wanted to post the article anyway so that you know that it 
is possible to hide the iMessage App Doc, permanently, so long as you do not 
change iMessage apps.

Mark

CNET How To - Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:06 AM Hide the annoying app 
dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

One of the new features in Messages on iOS 11 is a dedicated app dock for your 
iMessage apps. You've undoubtedly seen it since updating earlier this week -- 
it's a row of app icons at the bottom of the screen each and every time you 
open a conversation.
 
I've seen a lot of complaints on Twitter, and have been asked privately a few 
times about hiding it. At first, I didn't think it was possible. Then I found 
the answer on Reddit.

Hide the app dock by placing your finger on the App Store icon next to the text 
field, and swipe down. 

Poof, it's gone.

There's a caveat, because of course there is. If you use an iMessage app in the 
future, the dock comes back. But you can repeat the quick gesture to get rid of 
it again.

Original Article At:
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/hide-the-annoying-app-dock-in-ios-11s-messages-a
pp/#ftag=CAD5457c2c


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RE: Changes in WatchOS 4

[Rick Alfaro]

Totally agree here. If I had a series 2, I probably wouldn't upgrade either but 
I have the original Apple watch and it's really become unacceptable in terms of 
performance, especially under Watch OS 4. It's gotten so clunky feeling that I 
have gone back to my Tissot silent T for now. My series 3 should be here today 
or tomorrow so I'm looking forward to the expected increase in responsiveness.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 5:30 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Changes in WatchOS 4

Hi,

I, on the other hand, have the very first generation watch, and I'm excited to 
get the new one. The first generation one is slow and often clicks off when I 
try to use it, so it's becoming increasingly less useful. I don't blame those 
of you with the Series 2 for not upgrading, though.

Cheers,
Anna



> On Sep 23, 2017, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> I completely concur with you, Sieghard.
> 
> I am very happy with my Series two, watch, and do not plan on buying a new 
> one anytime soon.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Changes in WatchOS 4
> 
> This is one of the cases where it is probably not a bad idea to wait for the 
> next generation of LTE Apple Watch just as it was also a good decision to 
> wait for the second generation of the non-LTE version of Apple Watch which is 
> faster and completely waterproof. I would have kicked myself had I bought an 
> Apple Watch as soon as it was first released only to find out a year later a 
> waterproof version is available. An Apple Watch is one of these luxury items 
> one doesn't really need and for me at least it is an item I don't plan to buy 
> every 2 or even 3 years so probably better to let them work out the bugs 
> first.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Changes in WatchOS 4
> 
> I was going to get the new watch that came out yesterday until I listened to 
> Mposen's podcast about the watch.
> Needless to say, I was disappointed in the new watch.
> Siri didn't appear to really work, and it just felt like there were still too 
> many issues with the watch to spend that kind of money for it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 2:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Ioana Gandrabur
> Subject: Re: Changes in WatchOS 4
> 
> Thanks Ioana for this.
> 
> 
> I look forward to getting my series 3 whenever the hell it ships.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/09/2017 1:51 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As far as I know I have not seen many comments about watch os 4 from 
>> vo
> perspective.
>> Here's a good blog about general changes.
>> 
> https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-apple-watch-news/apple-releases-wa
> tchos- 4-bringing-range-enhancements-and-new-features
>> I also added a comment there with the info I'm adding to this message.
>> Any questions or additions very appreciated.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Here is what I found so far:
>> 1. You can now dial phone numbers in the phone app. Before the keypad 
>> was
> not accessible. Pretty sure keypad also works within a call.
>> 2. Time travel in apps is better indicated. In other words you can 
>> enable
> going forward in time for apps like weather or calendar by turning the 
> digital crown and vo will say "time travel" and read the info that changes as 
> you do so.
>> 3. You can now see the heart rate on the complication for heart rate 
>> app
> on your watch face. This means that you can enable auto-speak and get the 
> heart rate easily on the go.
>> 4.
>> Changed how you transfer calls from watch to iPhone. This is I think 
>> more
> to do with iOS 11. When picking up phone call on watch You just have to 
> double-tap on status bar of the phone and the phone call will transfer to 
> phone.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Siri female voice iOS 11

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Richard. 

Regarding the new Siri Female voice, I'd like to use this voice in Voice
Dream Reader but don't see it listed as a possibility. Have you found a way
to accomplish this? It would be a fantastic voice for reading books due to
how natural she sounds.



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Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:22 PM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' 
Subject: Siri female voice iOS 11

I'm finding some inconsistencies.


  1.  When I go into the Accessibility Speech settings and sample the Siri
American female voice or in the VoiceOver Speech settings and do the same,
it is a very nice, high quality voice that is using 497 MB or something like
that.
  2.  Under the regular accessibility speech settings, it says the name is
Martha.
  3.  However, if I go into the Siri settings and select Siri female
American, it is a not great sounding Samantha.  It is clearly not the
correct voice.
This is on both my iPhone 5s and iPod Touch 6 running iOS 11.
I'm copying Apple accessibility on this message.

Richard

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RE: Siri Issue

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. Totally agree with you regarding the new Siri female voice. It isn’t the 
most responsive by a long shot but the most human sounding I’ve ever heard on 
an iPhone. Hopefully, responsiveness will improve. Despite the small lag, I 
still am keeping her as my default voice because she’s so pleasant to listen 
to. As you mentioned she’s the best at normal human speed.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Issue

 

That shows how subjective TTS voices sound to us. I always preferred Samantha 
for Voiceover, to me she sounds just fine and if you truly have downloaded the 
new female american SIRI voice then I really don’t understand where you get the 
witch thing because I think she is one of the best TTS voices I have ever 
heard. I don’t have an Amazon Echo, but from Podcasts I heard I thought Alexa 
also sounds extremely good, but this new SIRI voice is probably the most human 
sounding voice I have ever heard. I must add that she only sounds good at 
regular human speaking volume, if you download her for Voiceover and cranc up 
the volume it’s a different story, her kind of voice is not meant to speak fast.

Unfortunately the next update won’t change things since I’m sure after the 
amount of money and effort Apple has gone through to come up with that voice 
they won’t go back to what she sounded like before.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Siri Issue

 

 

I know people that never liked Samantha because they thought she always sounded 
angry. I usually use a male voice for Siri.

I tried the new female Siri voice which I had to download and I thought she 
sounded a great deal better than Samantha.

So, I have no idea what the issue is for you.

Richard

 


On Sep 20, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Carla  > wrote:

Since doing the update I'm having a problem with Siri sounding kind of like a 
witch!  I have Samantha and her voice got higher and she sounds like a mean 
cacklly witch.  Have any of you experienced this sort of thing?  If so can I 
fix it or just wait for the next upgrade.

 

Carla

 

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RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, that was  pretty much it. It was a really good video by someone comparing 
the various series 3 models with very good explanations of their differences, 
including some I wasn't aware of.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

Should've asked in my previous message, how did you find the YouTube stuff on 
the series 3 with cellular, since it's not out yet? What did you search on, 
probably the obvious, Apple Watch Series 3?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mary, I had the same question and unfortunately the same experience when 
> calling TMobile. The last CSR I spoke to told me that I would get the 3 month 
> free offer only if I ordered through TMobile. Since the rep was not able to 
> tell me if there was a long wait or even if they would have them in stock, I 
> chose to order via the Apple Store app along with AppleCare and just forget 
> about the $30 savings on the data account.
> 
> I've been listening to some YouTube on the Series 3 watch, so I'm kind of on 
> the fence now with keeping the cellular model or returning it for the GPS 
> only model. Apparently, the cellular model takes a huge hit on battery life 
> when used as a cell phone only lasting an hour of talk time. I expected a hit 
> but not that bad. I may just decide to exchange it for the non-cellular model.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:38 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier
> 
> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so 
> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, 
> or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from 
> Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile 
> today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, 
> and we clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then 
> seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them 
> again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, 
> but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And 
> there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from 
> Apple? And do you understand any differences between going that way or going 
> through your carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in 
> the US. I had pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another 
> one of those overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing 
> my data plan, and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United 
> States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas 
> support folks. 
> 
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RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Rick Alfaro]

I called Apple and changed my order to the non-cellular model. The more I 
thought about it the more I decided I really didn't need cellular at all on my 
watch since my phone is always with me. When I changed the order, I save a nice 
chunk of money and my ship date got moved up from late October to sept. 25 - 
oct 3.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 6:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

Well, I wouldn't anticipate using mine that much to talk, actually talk. I 
assume that this is active talk time. So if you were just out and about and 
wearing the watch without your phone, and you don't talk on it very much, but 
maybe check a few notifications or do some other stuff here and there. What 
would it be like then I wonder. I called my local store today, and they also 
told me that the only way to get the three month free trial was to go through 
them. That also puts the watch on your monthly bill, and I don't know if that 
raises the price at all. I also I'm not sure about getting Apple care if you 
get it through T-Mobile. Last I heard, T-Mobile was saying delivery sometime 
later in October, which I think corresponds to what Apple was saying.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mary, I had the same question and unfortunately the same experience when 
> calling TMobile. The last CSR I spoke to told me that I would get the 3 month 
> free offer only if I ordered through TMobile. Since the rep was not able to 
> tell me if there was a long wait or even if they would have them in stock, I 
> chose to order via the Apple Store app along with AppleCare and just forget 
> about the $30 savings on the data account.
> 
> I've been listening to some YouTube on the Series 3 watch, so I'm kind of on 
> the fence now with keeping the cellular model or returning it for the GPS 
> only model. Apparently, the cellular model takes a huge hit on battery life 
> when used as a cell phone only lasting an hour of talk time. I expected a hit 
> but not that bad. I may just decide to exchange it for the non-cellular model.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:38 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier
> 
> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so 
> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, 
> or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from 
> Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile 
> today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, 
> and we clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then 
> seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them 
> again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, 
> but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And 
> there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from 
> Apple? And do you understand any differences between going that way or going 
> through your carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in 
> the US. I had pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another 
> one of those overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing 
> my data plan, and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United 
> States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas 
> support folks. 
> 
> 
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RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

[Rick Alfaro]

Mary, I had the same question and unfortunately the same experience when 
calling TMobile. The last CSR I spoke to told me that I would get the 3 month 
free offer only if I ordered through TMobile. Since the rep was not able to 
tell me if there was a long wait or even if they would have them in stock, I 
chose to order via the Apple Store app along with AppleCare and just forget 
about the $30 savings on the data account.

I've been listening to some YouTube on the Series 3 watch, so I'm kind of on 
the fence now with keeping the cellular model or returning it for the GPS only 
model. Apparently, the cellular model takes a huge hit on battery life when 
used as a cell phone only lasting an hour of talk time. I expected a hit but 
not that bad. I may just decide to exchange it for the non-cellular model.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:38 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier

I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so maybe. 
I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, or if 
there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from Apple. 
Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile today, 
which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, and we 
clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then seem to 
contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them again 
tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, but I want 
to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And there might 
be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from Apple? And do 
you understand any differences between going that way or going through your 
carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in the US. I had 
pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another one of those 
overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing my data plan, 
and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United States, thank God. 
I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas support folks. 


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. 

I have to say that I totally agree with you. I have owned several different BT 
headsets and they all have a lag with some being better than others. I do have 
to say however that the Apple AirPods that I own now has the least amount of 
lag. I have never seen a BT headset with absolutely no lag.





Best,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

That must be subjective then because I spent about 15 minutes in an Apple Store 
with the Airpods and noticed the lag instantly, it was probably as good as 
bluetooth lag gets, but my Voyager Edge and a couple of other bluetooth device 
I have are no different.
In my case the Plantronics Backbeat Sense were so bad that I packed them right 
back up and returned them which was easy as I had bought them from Amazon. That 
was about over a year ago so maybe they have done something to the current 
generation which makes it better. I rarely use a bluetooth keyboard so this 
terrible lag was using the onscreen keyboard and I would say it was at least a 
three quarter second, that is absolutely too much to be acceptable.
I have yet to try any bluetooth device with no lag, the technology at this 
point is such that a 0 lag device simply does not exist.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones

I use the Apple Airpods and, there is absolutely no lag at all.


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> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:11 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> I know you said you were using a Bluetooth keyboard. How are those headphones 
> when you were interacting with it phone using the touchscreen? Maybe you want 
> to just type in an address, so you want to hear each letter echoed. Or 
> perhaps you are looking around the screen for something. How is that lag? 
> That has been my grape against a lot of Bluetooth earpieces, that lag.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am typing this with a LogicTech K480 keyboard.
>> It is on bluetooth as are the headphones.
>> I would say that the delay is noticeable, but it is less than half a second 
>> in length.
>> I do not have a timer that I can fire at the same time I type a letter, but 
>> with the keyboard setting to echo words, when I type the word "words" and 
>> hit a space or punctuation, it says words at the same time I am typing the 
>> next word.
>> I type approximately 80 to 90 words a minute.
>> I cannot type ahead of VoiceOver more than a very small part of a word.
>> So, I'm not bothered by the delay.
>> but that is a personal preference.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 6:22 PM, denise Avant <denise.av...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How is the lag while typing. I have been thinking of getting these.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:12 PM
>>> To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Backbeat Sense by Plantronics, was FW: Bluetooth headphones
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> As promised, I am writing about the Backbeat Sense Bluetooth headphones 
>>> from Plantronics that I received yesterday.
>>> These are over the ear headphones that claim 18 hours of talk time, have a 
>>> microphone and Plantronics usual attention to detail with the spoken 
>>> prompts about battery, pairing, etc.
>>> I had a pair of Bose Mobile over the ear headphones that I really loved, 
>>> but they were only wired.  They died recently after 7 years of daily use.
>>> 
>>> I was looking for a stereo headphone that had Bluetooth when I came across 
>>> these.
>>> Regular Price, $179.  (That is what I paid for the Bose 7 years ago.
>>> B Video/Audio in New York has some for $116.  
>>> They come with the micro USB cable for charging, but no wall charger.  They 
>>> offer one, which we bought, for $6.00.
>>> 
>>> They come in a very nice box, with also a very nice carrying case.
>&g

RE: Honeywell WiFi thermostat issue with web site

[Rick Alfaro]

That didn’t work for me either using Jaws 18.

 

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Yolanda Thompson
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Honeywell WiFi thermostat issue with web site

 

Richard,
I was able to get it to work. Do not click on the heading that says North 
America, click on the please select your region.
This worked for me and then the page has links to Canada, do you nine it 
states, ET see.
Hope this helps

one



On Aug 10, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I wonder if they changed the site.  I’ve been using computers for over 30 
years, so I don’t think it is me.

Also, I tried it with VoiceOver and Safari on my iPhone.  No good either.

If someone wants to show me it can be done now, go to:

www.mytotalconnectcomfort.com <http://www.mytotalconnectcomfort.com> 

 

See if you can pick North America and go from there.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Honeywell WiFi thermostat issue with web site

 

Last year when I got my thermostat... Jaws 17 and internet explorer. 

Jen



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On Aug 10, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Jen, 

When was that?

I tried with: Jaws18, NVDA17.2, and Window-Eyes9.54 with Firefox, Chrome, and 
Internet Explorer.

 

Richard






(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com 
<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all.

I actually set up my account on the site. I actually didn't have an issue. 

Jen



Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:48 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Joseph, that is not what I said. 

The Honeywell thermostat itself with the app is completely accessible. The web 
site where you have to create an account is not accessible.

The app works great and it has a voice command feature in the app that you can 
tap the microphone button and say things like turn heat up 2 degrees, what is 
the tempreture, or what is the humidity. With both the tempreture and humidity 
questions, it gives you both the inside and outside amounts.

 

Since your thermostat has a Mac address, you can control it from anywhere that 
you have WiFi.

The app is fabulous. But, you need sighted assistance to create the account.

I will be writing Honeywell a detailed letter about this.

Richard

 






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<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Oh wow, so the Honeywell thermostat is not accessible? Well luckily, the Cincy 
thermostat app is still accessible. I think the only problem that I probably 
would've had with it, was pairing a thermostat to it. Which my dad successfully 
did for me. And he was gracious in doing so. I can control the temperature in 
everything from that app and I'm very happy about it.
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On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

To those with the Honeywell thermostat, did you have someone sighted set up the 
account?

Their web site is completely inaccessible.

 

Richard

 

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RE: Honeywell WiFi thermostat issue with web site

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Richard. I tried just for the heck of it and it wasn’t doable. The regions 
show as headings and not as links or a combo box. Clicking on them with the 
mouse cursor also did nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Honeywell WiFi thermostat issue with web site

 

I wonder if they changed the site.  I’ve been using computers for over 30 
years, so I don’t think it is me.

Also, I tried it with VoiceOver and Safari on my iPhone.  No good either.

If someone wants to show me it can be done now, go to:

www.mytotalconnectcomfort.com <http://www.mytotalconnectcomfort.com> 

 

See if you can pick North America and go from there.

 

Richard

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Honeywell WiFi thermostat issue with web site

 

Last year when I got my thermostat... Jaws 17 and internet explorer. 

Jen



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On Aug 10, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Jen, 

When was that?

I tried with: Jaws18, NVDA17.2, and Window-Eyes9.54 with Firefox, Chrome, and 
Internet Explorer.

 

Richard

 

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On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com 
<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all.

I actually set up my account on the site. I actually didn't have an issue. 

Jen



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On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:48 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Joseph, that is not what I said. 

The Honeywell thermostat itself with the app is completely accessible. The web 
site where you have to create an account is not accessible.

The app works great and it has a voice command feature in the app that you can 
tap the microphone button and say things like turn heat up 2 degrees, what is 
the tempreture, or what is the humidity. With both the tempreture and humidity 
questions, it gives you both the inside and outside amounts.

 

Since your thermostat has a Mac address, you can control it from anywhere that 
you have WiFi.

The app is fabulous. But, you need sighted assistance to create the account.

I will be writing Honeywell a detailed letter about this.

Richard

 

 

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<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Oh wow, so the Honeywell thermostat is not accessible? Well luckily, the Cincy 
thermostat app is still accessible. I think the only problem that I probably 
would've had with it, was pairing a thermostat to it. Which my dad successfully 
did for me. And he was gracious in doing so. I can control the temperature in 
everything from that app and I'm very happy about it.
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Hi,

To those with the Honeywell thermostat, did you have someone sighted set up the 
account?

Their web site is completely inaccessible.

 

Richard

 

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RE: Updated dropbox app crashing?

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You are not alone. It is crashing here as well.





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:18 AM
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Subject: Updated dropbox app crashing?

Hi all.
Has anyone else been having an issue with the updated dropbox app crashing 
constantly?
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling it. I can't even get into the settings 
to email them. lol.
Just curious if I'm the only one having issues? 
Thanks all!
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RE: battery charger recommendations

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi there Amy.

 

I would highly recommend the Ankar brand. There are several of them on Amazon. 
I have 2 of these with one having 4 ports and the other one 5. I’ve seen them 
have as many as ten ports. You want to make sure that whatever model you choose 
has what they refer to as Smart charging. This means that you don’t have to 
worry about whether you are charging an iPad, iPhone or Android device. The 
charger will figure it out and provide the appropriate voltage for the fastest 
charge possible for that particular device. I believe I paid around $20 or so 
for my 5 port version. Just do an Amazon search for Ankar charging hub and 
you’ll see quite a few of them. They can often go on sale as well. HTH

 

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

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Amy Ruel 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: battery charger recommendations

 

Hello all,

I haven’t been in need of this for some time, but my current charger is dying. 
I have a battery case, but, when training or at long conferences, I sometimes 
need even more battery power than the case gives me. I am looking for a charger 
that will allow me to charge multiple kinds of devices, so a multi-port option 
would be best.

Thanks.

Amy

 

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RE: A Ring Doorbell Question

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Ester.  Unfortunately, as far as I know, those 4 screws are the only way. My 
solution was to purchase a compatible AC transformer that I was able to plug 
into a wall outlet and hardwire the Ring unit so I don’t have to ever worry 
about charging it. I believe the transformer was around $20 or so and I had my 
Son wire it up for me. I believe there are instructions on their web site for 
how to do this along with a tested transformer that will work.

 

Another advantage to hard wiring it is that then the “live” feature can be 
enabled by calling them.  The Live feature allows you to monitor the live video 
stream through your phone from anywhere. Not sure if this has changed or not 
but Live wasn’t available unless your Ring was hardwired.

 

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Ring Doorbell Question

 

hi, Rick, I also have ring doorbell, and mine does route to the earpiece. Then 
it seems to go through the speaker after a couple of seconds or so. I'm very 
new at this myself, and any help anybody can provide would be certainly 
appreciated. I do like the convenience of it, however, and I do like it's 
concept. What I also want to know is The doorbell mechanism itself has four 
screws in it, which houses the battery. I'm wondering if there is another 
easier way to take this mechanism off when it's time to charge it. I also heard 
about another device which can be put on the stick up camera, which 
automatically charges the battery and you never have to charge the battery 
again. I was looking on the Ring website and it was listed under, I believe, 
accessories. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Esther

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<mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi. Have you had the issue where the audio is routed to the ear piece instead 
of the phone’s speakers?

 

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: A Ring Doorbell Question

 

It doesn’t dial your number, it is connected to your home WiFi and hence to the 
internet, if somebody rings it goes to the Ring servers and a push notification 
is sent out. For me it is almost instant, maybe a second or so delay. I highly 
suggest you allow these push notifications to show on the lock screen, this way 
you can double tap on it, you then have to unlock your phone (I use Touch Id so 
it’s usually very quick) and then the Ring app automatically opens and goes to 
the screen where you can see (if you can see) who is there, you have only three 
buttons on that screen, End, Talk and another one which if you want to simply 
start to listen live you have to tap. This screen is in landscape mode with the 
home button to the right and this can’t be changed and it can sometimes be a 
bit sluggish, but it works.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: A Ring Doorbell Question

 

I'm considering the Ring Doorbell.  Those of you who have it seem happy with 
it.  My question is:  Do you find much of a delay from the time someone presses 
the doorbell to when your phone rings.  Does it actually dial your phone 
number?  or does it function as more of an intercom?

 

Thanks,

 

Karen P

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RE: A Ring Doorbell Question

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. Have you had the issue where the audio is routed to the ear piece instead 
of the phone’s speakers?

 

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Ring Doorbell Question

 

It doesn’t dial your number, it is connected to your home WiFi and hence to the 
internet, if somebody rings it goes to the Ring servers and a push notification 
is sent out. For me it is almost instant, maybe a second or so delay. I highly 
suggest you allow these push notifications to show on the lock screen, this way 
you can double tap on it, you then have to unlock your phone (I use Touch Id so 
it’s usually very quick) and then the Ring app automatically opens and goes to 
the screen where you can see (if you can see) who is there, you have only three 
buttons on that screen, End, Talk and another one which if you want to simply 
start to listen live you have to tap. This screen is in landscape mode with the 
home button to the right and this can’t be changed and it can sometimes be a 
bit sluggish, but it works.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Poulakos
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: A Ring Doorbell Question

 

I'm considering the Ring Doorbell.  Those of you who have it seem happy with 
it.  My question is:  Do you find much of a delay from the time someone presses 
the doorbell to when your phone rings.  Does it actually dial your phone 
number?  or does it function as more of an intercom?

 

Thanks,

 

Karen P

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RE: A Ring Doorbell Question

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi.

 

I believe the time it takes for your phone to register a ring is dependent on 
how good your WiFi signal and speed are. Mine is on an 8802.11ac 1900 network 
and the response time is very acceptable. You have to be running the Ring app 
on your phone which is what actually produces the ring sound. You can also 
purchase a ring doorbell that plugs into any AC power outlet and also connects 
to your WiFi which allows you to have a ring sound anywhere in the house you 
would like. You can have several of these if you want.

 

The one issue I have with Ring is that when I tap on the notification, the 
audio from the video feed comes out of the phone’s ear piece instead of the 
speaker. Occasionally, it comes out of the speaker but not always.

 

The audio is actually quite good, you can easily talk to and hear the person at 
the door.

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Ring Doorbell Question

 

I'm considering the Ring Doorbell.  Those of you who have it seem happy with 
it.  My question is:  Do you find much of a delay from the time someone presses 
the doorbell to when your phone rings.  Does it actually dial your phone 
number?  or does it function as more of an intercom?

 

Thanks,

 

Karen P

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RE: Having to restart voice over

[Rick Alfaro]

I am using Alex as well. So far from what I'm reading, Alex seems to be the 
common denominator among those seeing this issue.  I'm going to change to 
another voice and see what happens.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Lelia Struve
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Having to restart voice over

I am using Alex

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 10, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Thom Spittle <thom3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This is when it happens to me as well. I have to use siri to turn off voice 
> over, then ask her to turn it back on. Or use the home button shortcut.
> I'm wondering if it happens to just the Alex voice.
> 
> Thom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 10:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Having to restart voice over
> 
> Something happened to me last night after I hung up a call. I had, however, 
> no sounds at all at first, then I had the clicks when I swiped. My wife had a 
> look and everything looked fine. I simply turned my phone off and powered it 
> back on and Voiceover was back. This was the first time and I guess I'll see 
> if this happens again.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 2:10 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Having to restart voice over
> 
> Yeah, that happens to me too, intermittently. I'll try to see if it's always 
> after I use Siri. At this point, I'm not sure on that. I know it is not 
> allways after I use Siri, though.
> Keith
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Thom Spittle
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Having to restart voice over
> 
> It just stops talking. I hear the clicks, but that's it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do you mean VO just stops talking? Or are you hearing double voices?
>> I've seen both issues.
>> 
>>> On 12/9/16, Thom Spittle <thom3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> It seems like every time I use siri, voice over stops working after 
>>> that. I need to turn off voice over, then turn on voice over, in 
>>> order to get it to work again.
>>> 
>>> I an using an iPhone 5s updated to 10.1.1 with alex as my voice over voice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Thom
>>> 
>>> thom3...@gmail.com
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RE: Having to restart voice over

[Rick Alfaro]

I’ve also seen the same issue several times but in my case, it’s easily fixed 
by using Siri to turn VO off then back on again. So far that’s worked for me 
every time.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Having to restart voice over

 

Hi Sieghard,

I have had the same situation happen to me a number of times now and, like you, 
have had to restart my phone in order to get the voice back! Yes, it can be a 
bit tricky sometimes, but at least it does work if you persevere.

I have also found recently that sounds on and off do not seem to be terribly 
consistent. Sometimes, when I put them on, they don't come on and vice versa!
For all those who have had to reinstall apps because they have lost their 
speech, I would suggest you persevere with trying to get the speech back. 
Plugging the phone in first may well help.

We all ought to start reporting this, I think!

 

 

 

Carol P - Sent from my iPhone :)

 


On 10 Dec 2016, at 3:51 am, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Something happened to me last night after I hung up a call. I had, however, no 
sounds at all at first, then I had the clicks when I swiped. My wife had a look 
and everything looked fine. I simply turned my phone off and powered it back on 
and Voiceover was back. This was the first time and I guess I'll see if this 
happens again.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 2:10 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ' 
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Having to restart voice over

Yeah, that happens to me too, intermittently. I'll try to see if it's always 
after I use Siri. At this point, I'm not sure on that. I know it is not allways 
after I use Siri, though.
Keith
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Subject: Re: Having to restart voice over

It just stops talking. I hear the clicks, but that's it.

Sent from my iPhone




On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Do you mean VO just stops talking? Or are you hearing double voices?

I've seen both issues.

 

On 12/9/16, Thom Spittle <thom3...@gmail.com <mailto:thom3...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:

Hi listers,

 

It seems like every time I use siri, voice over stops working after 

that. I need to turn off voice over, then turn on voice over, in 

order to get it to work again.

 

I an using an iPhone 5s updated to 10.1.1 with alex as my voice over voice.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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RE: iPhone 7 plus, muffled outgoing audio?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mary, no, we are on TMobile.



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Hi Rick,
Are you per chance on Verizon? I have read where some Verizon iPhone 7 owners 
have been experiencing this outgoing audio problem. Not sure what the current 
state of affairs is.
Mary


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> Are any iPhone 7 plus owners experiencing muvvled outgoing call audio? Both
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iPhone 7 plus, muffled outgoing audio?

[Rick Alfaro]

Are any iPhone 7 plus owners experiencing muvvled outgoing call audio? Both
my wife and I have iPhone 7 pluses and we keep getting complaints that we
sound either muffled or distant. This is either with or without a case on
the phone. We are on TMobile. Anyone else getting these complaints?



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RE: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

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Voices are subjective.  I think she sounds horrible but that's just me.



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10

JustCurious
What's WrongWith VoiceOver'sVictoria?
At 05:10 AM 9/16/2016, you wrote:
>I'm using Alex right now although I sometimes switch to Samantha. 
>Can't stand Fred or Victoria.
>
>
>
>Best regards,
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>Hi,
>Kate enhanced, punctuation off, 100% speech rate.
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> >
> >
> > Hi now since IS 10 is out.
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RE: Audio Unboxing/familiarisation with the iPhone 7 Plus

[Rick Alfaro]

Great podcast Jonathan. I won’t be getting my 7 plus for another week or so but 
thanks to your podcast I was able to get my fix. (lol) You tested and tried 
everything I would have so I was right on the same page with you. Thanks.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:40 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Audio Unboxing/familiarisation with the iPhone 7 Plus

 

Hi everyone, following on from our wrap of last week's Apple event, this week's 
episode of The Blind Side Podcast features a comprehensive unboxing, setting 
up, and then exploration of the new iPhone 7 Plus.

If you'd like to take a listen, subscribe to The Blind Side Podcast in any good 
podcatcher, or you can hear it on Sound Cloud via this URL.

https://soundcloud.com/theblindsidepodcast/episode6

Hope you find it interesting.

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Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

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RE: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

[Rick Alfaro]

I'm using Alex right now although I sometimes switch to Samantha. Can't stand 
Fred or Victoria.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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10

Hi,
Kate enhanced, punctuation off, 100% speech rate.



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Subject: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

>
>
> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with 
> your phone?
> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
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RE: the ID go App

[Rick Alfaro]

It's not just you. The interface on this app is crazy. I was able to go from 
one page to another but only by using a three finger flick left or right. Also, 
if you do a 4 finger tap near the bottom of the screen, you can get to where 
you can choose your cable provider and sign in with your email and password for 
that account which gives you access to everything they offer.

Finding different episodes is hit or miss but I found that if you just keep 
swiping down from the top and to the right, there's a ton of content. This time 
double tapping from within the stream didn't stop it for me so I have to close 
out the app and run it again. It seems that sometimes the double tap works and 
other times it doesn't with no rhyme or reason.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Jed Barton
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ah do you know how to get to new episodes?  There looks to be 11 pages 
of shows, but when i flick to a new page, it looks like it's all the 
same.  Any ideas?

On 9/14/2016 1:06 PM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> Yes, I only tried it briefly but I double tapped while the stream was playing.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
>
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> Jed Barton
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> so do you do this while it is playing an episode, you just double tap
> anywhere on the screen?
>
> On 9/13/2016 8:50 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
>> Hi, double tapping with one finger seems to do it for me as long as there 
>> isn't an ad showing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rick Alfaro
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: the ID go App
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Anyone ahd any success with the ID go app?  It's the app that lets you
>> watch the Investigation Discovery Channel.  I can get it to play an
>> episode.  However when it starts playing it it goes in to landscape
>> mode, and you can't get out of it.  There is no back button.  Any ideas?
>>   The only solution i have found is to close the app if i wanna watch
>> another episode.  Any thoughts?
>>
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RE: the ID go App

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, I only tried it briefly but I double tapped while the stream was playing.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: the ID go App

so do you do this while it is playing an episode, you just double tap 
anywhere on the screen?

On 9/13/2016 8:50 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
> Hi, double tapping with one finger seems to do it for me as long as there 
> isn't an ad showing.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jed Barton
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:14 PM
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> Subject: the ID go App
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Anyone ahd any success with the ID go app?  It's the app that lets you
> watch the Investigation Discovery Channel.  I can get it to play an
> episode.  However when it starts playing it it goes in to landscape
> mode, and you can't get out of it.  There is no back button.  Any ideas?
>   The only solution i have found is to close the app if i wanna watch
> another episode.  Any thoughts?
>

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RE: the ID go App

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi, double tapping with one finger seems to do it for me as long as there isn't 
an ad showing.



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Rick Alfaro

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Hey guys,

Anyone ahd any success with the ID go app?  It's the app that lets you 
watch the Investigation Discovery Channel.  I can get it to play an 
episode.  However when it starts playing it it goes in to landscape 
mode, and you can't get out of it.  There is no back button.  Any ideas? 
  The only solution i have found is to close the app if i wanna watch 
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RE: Still can't find those podcasts in the new Sero app

[Rick Alfaro]

Mary,

 I found podcasts under the entertainment icon on the main page.



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Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still can't find those podcasts in the new Sero app

Thanks, Sieghard. Mine doesn't look quite like that. It has other things in it 
that would be present if one were a member logged in from the old Samnet. I 
think I will just have to delete the app and start over and see what happens.
Mary


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> On Sep 7, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Yes, Podcasts is there on my 6S Plus. Here is the entire home screen if I go 
> to the very top left and then swipe right:
> 
> SERO, heading
> Search, search field
> Provide feedback on the SERO beta
> Login
> Submit an iReport (whatever an "iReport" is, I assume maybe a bug report?)
> Audio tutorials and interviews
> Blindness resources
> Community radio
> Podcasts
> 
> Reading services
> SAMNet Sampler
> Local Content
> Recently Played
> About
> Presets, button
> Downloads, button
> 
> Visually it seems that everything I mentioned above is on separate lines and 
> each item takes up the entire width of the screen, i.e. it doesn't matter if 
> you touch on the left side, the middle or the right side, as long as you stay 
> in the same row you get the same thing.
> The exception are the two buttons at the bottom, "Presets" and ""Downloads".
> Presets seems to be on the very bottom left and it appears to take up less 
> space than the downloads button which starts above and to the left of the 
> home button and goes all the way across to the right.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> 
> To those of you who have found the podcast, are you seeing them on the 
> opening page, the one that comes up when you first open the app? I have now 
> looked on my iPhone, and I simply do not see podcasts on this page. I have 
> gone from the first item to the last item. Nothing.
> Mary
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RE: Descriptive Video on Amazon Prime?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi, good luck with that. I’ve so far not seen any descriptive video on amazon 
Prime. When I inquired as to the possibility of offering it in the future, all 
I got was a standard canned message stating that my email would be forwarded to 
their accessibility team. I never receive any sort of response badk from them.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

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Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
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I'm just beginning my Amazon Prime trial and wondering if 
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RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mark. Those are some very interesting observations and so completely 
different from what I heard on Mike's demo. I'd be really interested in knowing 
why the difference is so huge. I haven't purchased the app but if I had and 
experienced such terrible accuracy, I'd be asking for a refund. Hopefully, your 
notes will help them in finding the issues shown in your situation. Thanks for 
sharing the notes.



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Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing 
Eye GPS

Hello All, 

I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:

Mark

Post:
Hello Rob, et al,

Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:

Note 1:
I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.

Note 2:
The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.

Note 3:
I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
(2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
the results were the same.

Note 4:
There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
structures blocking my view of the sky.

Note 5:
While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran
Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time comparison.  

Note 6:
I ran both apps with the screen turned off.

Note 7:
Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby
Explorer.

Note 8:
Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested for
intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, rarely, if
ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment as to the accuracy of that
feature.  To me, the most valuable aspect of a GPS solution is the ability
to simply launch the app and have cross-street/intersections automatically
be announced.  

Note 9:
Okay, having said all of this, even on an older device, Seeing Eye GPS was
remarkably more accurate than Nearby Explorer in the area of free-walking,
auto-intersection announcements.

Comments:
Now that I've got all of that out of the way, I can tell you that Nearby
Explorer appears to be off by as little as 50 yards to as much as 200 yards
at virtually every intersection.  This is to say, as we approached the
cross-walk, slowing down in the approach for a red light, Seeing Eye would
perfectly announce the intersection.  Nearby Explorer, however, if it
announced the cross street at all, would consistently report it as being as
little as 50 yards ahead; more often than not, however, it would report the
intersection as being 250 or so yards ahead.  I was really surprised to see
intersections being announced only after we had passed through them by as
little as 100 feet or more.

At speed, Nearby Explorer consistently failed to announce intersections,
altogether.  

It almost seemed as though the app was/is not properly calibrated for being
used at sea level.  This is the only thing I can fathom as to why its
performance was so poor.  I'm not certain about the algorithm but I do know
that GPS apps must take into account their distance from the satellite in
order to compensate for the time delay, and subsequent calculations. 

It may also be a problem that its radius is simply set too far ahead.
Seeing Eye and, if memory serves, Mobile Geo would allow for distances as
close as 15 feet and approach auto-announcements as close as 50 feet.  

I really do find that the extreme distances that Nearby Explorer offer are
of virtually no used to me as either a pedestrian or rider.  To say that
something is 300 yards ahead, has no real meaning to me but to say that
something is 20 feet ahead is something I can definitely relate to.

Thank you for considering my comments.

Mark

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RE: Heart Rate monitors

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, thanks. This is more like what I am looking for. I'll check out the 
reviews on amazon. Thank you.



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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:50 PM
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Subject: Re: Heart Rate monitors

I would suggest the Polar H7 sensor... the app that comes with the 
product is barely accessible but you can use other appes if you need 
more features. For me, the native app is enough for my needs.

Regarding the apps that monitor the rate trought the finger... well 
its ok if you need just to know ina  certain moment what is your rate, 
but not for following a training session.



Il 19/08/2016 04:37, Karl Smith ha scritto:
> This app actually works very well.
>
> Karl
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Heart Rate monitors
>
> There is an app called Instant Heart Rate, that measures your heart rate 
> using the camera. You place the tip of your index finger on the camera lense, 
> and it measures your heart rate by detecting color changes in the skin.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Heart Rate monitors
>
> Hi. Looking for recommendations for an accurate bluetooth heart rate monitor 
> along with VO friendly software to keep track of everything during workouts.
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
>
>
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RE: Heart Rate monitors

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Andy. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think this will work too well for 
me as what I'm looking for is an app and heart rate monitor that will give me 
reading while I'm working out on a tread mill. I'm looking for a chest strap 
type monitor that is constantly getting your heart beat, realtime and reports 
that info while you are excersizing.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Subject: Re: Heart Rate monitors

There is an app called Instant Heart Rate, that measures your heart rate 
using the camera. You place the tip of your index finger on the camera 
lense, and it measures your heart rate by detecting color changes in the 
skin.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Heart Rate monitors

Hi. Looking for recommendations for an accurate bluetooth heart rate monitor
along with VO friendly software to keep track of everything during workouts.
Any suggestions appreciated.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro



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Heart Rate monitors

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. Looking for recommendations for an accurate bluetooth heart rate monitor
along with VO friendly software to keep track of everything during workouts.
Any suggestions appreciated.



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Looking for heart rate monitor suggestions

[Rick Alfaro]

If anyone out there is using a chest strap style heart rate monitor, please
let me know which one you are using and which IOS app you are using it with.
Amazon has a ton of them so very hard to choose one. The app being used also
has to be VO friendly and I don't care if the app is free or paid. Any
suggestions appreciated. Thanks.



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RE: Volume of audio description on Apple TV

[Rick Alfaro]

I've seen this as well on some but not all movies with AD. The one thing that 
does work for me is to access the audio tab while the movie is paused and check 
the box there that says something to the affect of reduce loud sounds. 
Normally, this is set to full dynamic range which is usually preferred but for 
this situation, it works because it behaves like a midnight mode and makes the 
audio all at the same level.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Nancy Badger
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Subject: Volume of audio description on Apple TV

Hello,
I just watched the movie allegiant on my third generation Apple TV. The audio 
description was very loud while the volume of the actors speaking was very 
soft. We played around with it trying to change the volume but could not find a 
way to do it. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there anything I can do 
about it?
Thanks
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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UT Chattanooga
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RE: [AppleVis Subscription] New Forum Topic: Introducing Greta & Starks, iOS apps to make the cinema accessible to the blind and deaf

[Rick Alfaro]

Yes, and the app is all in German as well. I’d love to give it a try but I 
don’t speak German. Hopefully we’ll see an English version soon.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AppleVis Subscription] New Forum Topic: Introducing Greta & 
Starks, iOS apps to make the cinema accessible to the blind and deaf

 

Very strange, the link provided for Greta is from the US app store, but the app 
description is in German. Good for me, I guess, as I am bilingual in Germany 
and English, but strange nonetheless.

 

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Starks, iOS apps to make the cinema accessible to the blind and deaf

 

 

 

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iOS apps to make the cinema accessible to the blind and deaf

 

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subtitles for an international audience.

GRETA & STARKS are special apps, as they play the existing audio description 
(AD) or subtitles for hard-of-hearing individuals and people with hearing lost 
(SDH) at any time, place, or screening - in indoor and outdoor cinemas, at 
home, at school etc. – simply, using one’s own smart device. Greta whispers 
audio descriptions, and Starks plays subtitles.

The only precondition is that the distributors have engaged our company to make 
the films fully accessible. Up until now, we were able to offer access to more 
than 113 movies.

Greta: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/greta/id793892423?mt=8
Starks: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/starks/id793927739?mt=8

More information: http://gretaundstarks.de/starks/GretaAndStarks/

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RE: T mobile Tuesdays

[Rick Alfaro]

They just pushed it out about an hour ago. It's definitely coming but needs 
time to propagate.
  This last uncarrier move I think is brilliant, specifically giving out full 
shares of their stock to all their primary account holder accounts.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Mary Otten
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: T mobile Tuesdays

I have seen several articles in the tech press this morning talking about the 
latest publicity stunt from T-Mobile, this one being offers of various free 
goodies to subscribers. You need an app called T mobile Tuesdays. One article I 
saw even had an App Store link. But when I tried the link, it took me exactly 
know where. So I tried searching in the app store myself. Same thing, no 
results. Has anyone actually seeing this T mobile Tuesdays app? It is supposed 
to be both in the app store and the Google play store for android users.
Mary


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RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mark. Perhaps visually, it may look like the old sidebar but from a screen 
reader's perspective unless I'm missing something, it doesn't feel like the old 
sidebar at all and I am not in the phone view.  The sidebar is enabled but not 
even close IMHO. In addition, several lists are broken where focused isn't 
being voiced as you arrow throught them.



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Rick Alfaro

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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:42 PM
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Subject: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries Mailing List.

I am so surprised that no one has mentioned the return of the iTunes SideBar in 
iTunes 12.4.  (smile)

If you didn't know it, it's back and looks almost like it did in iTunes 11 and 
earlier.  

Yep, it's true.  From the View menu, select Show SideBar.

Enjoy,

Mark

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RE: question podcast smart tv

[Rick Alfaro]

Just an FYI,

 

We recently purchased a Sony XBR 65x850c TV. What is interesting about this 
latest Sony lineup of 2015 sets is that they are now using Android TV for their 
OS.  I was actually able to load TalkBack onto it which made the TV and lots of 
settings quite accessible except for some of the apps like Netflix. Pretty much 
if the apps are accessible on an Android phone, they will be on Android OS.

 

Between this and also using an Apple TV 4th gen, it’s a pretty darn accessible 
setup. I can switch back and forth between the smart tv interface and Apple TV 
and of course also to the Xfinity box with talking nvoice guidance. It’s been a 
big step forward I think from a couple of years ago.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question podcast smart tv

 

I think Gianni was referring to actual TV’s which have various smart features 
built in such as being able to access Netflix, do Skype calls, browse the 
internet etc. Anyhow, this is what generally is referred to as a smart TV and 
of course Samsung, Sony, LG, Panasonic and so on all make these things nowadays 
and often manufacturers make various claims as to how upgradable they are. 
Especially Samsung claimed that if you buy one of theirs you can upgrade not 
just the software but in some cases even the hardware I think with a new 
processor etc. However, I also read recently in connection with CES in Las 
Vegas that they are now coming out with stuff where even people who bought a TV 
a year or two ago are left behind and of course now all the rage is ultra high 
HD or 4K and of course no TV that is just an HD TV can be upgraded to that. I 
think in the end it will emerge that TV’s become “dummer” again so to speak and 
that the smarts will be in the set top boxes we use to access the content. This 
of course makes sense to me since you shouldn’t have to ugrade an entire TV 
every 3 to 5 years but a $100 to $200 set top box can be much more easily 
replaced with something newer and more advanced.

Also I think that there are no smart TV’s out there which have any sort of 
accessibility hence probably the lack of Podcasts since each company does their 
own thing.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R 
VanLant
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question podcast smart tv

 

I haven’t seen a general one, but I’ve seen an Apple TV setup podcast on 
AppleVis recently.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gianni
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question podcast smart tv

 

Hello,

Maybe I've missed it in de past, but is there somewhere a podcast about smart 
tv's? 

Gianni

 

Skype: giannijuve

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RE: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

[Rick Alfaro]

Mary, thanks for the followup. I know that on the standard model, once you 
choose a preset like rice, you have several seconds to make any adjustments 
before it will start on its own. By adjustments, I mean plus or minus the 
default time for the preset. Hopefully, the app will do the same, giving you 
time to make any changes. For the most part, since I've been pressure 
cookingfor some time now, I usually use the manual setting and don't use the 
presets all that much.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 10:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

Hi Rick,
I thought I would get back to you on the instant pot smart. The panel is like 
yours. And the app seems very nice indeed. The recipes in it are very few, 
although you can download scripts or write your own. There is documentation for 
how to do that in a PDF file which I have not looked at yet. Peering is a snap. 
The dashboard, where you control the cooker, is totally accessible. The only 
thing I don't know, and that is because I simply haven't done it yet, is 
whether you can manipulate the plus and minus and adjust buttons using the app. 
And if you can, can you tell what the settings are when you're done. I suspect 
it will work, since the other settings work. You can see the temperature in the 
device, what is the pressure, how much time is left. And of course you can 
activate the preprograms things like rice etc. What gives me hope is that when 
you hit a button, such as rice, it doesn't automatically start. On the screen 
that comes up, you have to hit a start but for it to start. So the rise program 
is automatic, no adjustments. But I'm thinking that with programs that do allow 
adjustments, like stew, it should allow you to make adjustments.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mary, at least the model I have is not touch screen. The buttons are sort of 
> like raised bubbles so I could see how maybe a sighted person would think it 
> was a touch screen.
> 
> I just looked at the BT version and it's currently selling for $179 which is 
> substantially lower than it was when I purchased my original instant pot. It 
> was close to $300 then so $179 really looks like a deal since the standard 
> 6qt model sells for $118. I'd definitely spend the extra $60 for the 
> convenience and better accessibility of the BT model. I'm thinking about 
> ordering one but need to listen to that podcast first.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app
> 
> Thanks, Rick. I wish I had known this earlier. There was a big sale on the 
> regular instant pot before Christmas. And I was looking into purchasing it, 
> but then I read an article that seemed to indicate that there was a touch 
> screen on the front. So that made it sound like it was not going to work too 
> well for a totally blind person. I've never actually seen one. I guess I will 
> have to keep looking for a sale.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there Mary. I don't have the BT version of the Instant Pot but I do have 
>> their standard version that is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, and also 
>> sautes  among other things. 
>> 
>> I just wanted to let you know that the Instant pot is most definitely very 
>> useable by a blind person. I use mine at least once or twice a week. I 
>> simply made a Braille chart of the various buttons along with what they are 
>> and their default cook times. I keep this taped to the inside of a cabinet 
>> door just above the Instant Pot for easy reference. In addition, this cooker 
>> also has plus and minus buttons as well as a manual setting which I actually 
>> prefer so you can set your own cooking time if you don't want to use the 
>> presets.
>> 
>> The buttons are definitely fairly tactile but I nevertheless put some lock 
>> dots on them for an easier feel. 
>> 
>> The cooker is also very safe. There is no way you can open it once it comes 
>> up to pressure.
>> 
>> I've never seen the BT version so can't say the buttons and layout are the 
>> same but their standard pot is quite useable. Pressure cooking save a ton of 
>> time for all kinds of differe

RE: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

[Rick Alfaro]

Mary, at least the model I have is not touch screen. The buttons are sort of 
like raised bubbles so I could see how maybe a sighted person would think it 
was a touch screen.

I just looked at the BT version and it's currently selling for $179 which is 
substantially lower than it was when I purchased my original instant pot. It 
was close to $300 then so $179 really looks like a deal since the standard 6qt 
model sells for $118. I'd definitely spend the extra $60 for the convenience 
and better accessibility of the BT model. I'm thinking about ordering one but 
need to listen to that podcast first.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

Thanks, Rick. I wish I had known this earlier. There was a big sale on the 
regular instant pot before Christmas. And I was looking into purchasing it, but 
then I read an article that seemed to indicate that there was a touch screen on 
the front. So that made it sound like it was not going to work too well for a 
totally blind person. I've never actually seen one. I guess I will have to keep 
looking for a sale.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi there Mary. I don't have the BT version of the Instant Pot but I do have 
> their standard version that is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, and also 
> sautes  among other things. 
> 
> I just wanted to let you know that the Instant pot is most definitely very 
> useable by a blind person. I use mine at least once or twice a week. I simply 
> made a Braille chart of the various buttons along with what they are and 
> their default cook times. I keep this taped to the inside of a cabinet door 
> just above the Instant Pot for easy reference. In addition, this cooker also 
> has plus and minus buttons as well as a manual setting which I actually 
> prefer so you can set your own cooking time if you don't want to use the 
> presets.
> 
> The buttons are definitely fairly tactile but I nevertheless put some lock 
> dots on them for an easier feel. 
> 
> The cooker is also very safe. There is no way you can open it once it comes 
> up to pressure.
> 
> I've never seen the BT version so can't say the buttons and layout are the 
> same but their standard pot is quite useable. Pressure cooking save a ton of 
> time for all kinds of different dishes with the big advantage that all of the 
> flavor is locked into whatever you're cooking. 
> 
> I'm definitely going to check out that podcast and see what this BT version 
> is all about.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
> macvoiceo...@freelists.org
> Subject: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app
> 
> Hi all,
> There has been a lot of talk on certain cooking related websites this past 
> year about an appliance known as an instant pot. It is a multi use appliance, 
> which combines the functionality of slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice 
> cooker, sauté pan, and some other stuff. I was interested in this device, 
> until I finally found an article that went into enough detail to convince me 
> that it would not be usable by a blind person.
> Then just today, I found a podcast done by Victor Saren on applevis.  He 
> demonstrates the Bluetooth app which makes the most expensive variant of the 
> instant pot accessible to blind people. This is not a cheap appliance. But it 
> may be under someone's Christmas tree tomorrow. I would be very curious if 
> there's anyone on any of these lists who has or will be getting this pot and 
> how you like it and the app. There are recipes on the instant pot website. 
> And I have found some recipes on another website. You can also adapt pressure 
> cooker recipes for it, but it cooks at a slightly lower pressure than the 
> usual stovetop pressure cookers. The app also lets you enter your own 
> recipes. There is also going to be or is, an android app
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi there Mary. I don't have the BT version of the Instant Pot but I do have 
their standard version that is a pressure cooker, slow cooker, and also sautes  
among other things. 

I just wanted to let you know that the Instant pot is most definitely very 
useable by a blind person. I use mine at least once or twice a week. I simply 
made a Braille chart of the various buttons along with what they are and their 
default cook times. I keep this taped to the inside of a cabinet door just 
above the Instant Pot for easy reference. In addition, this cooker also has 
plus and minus buttons as well as a manual setting which I actually prefer so 
you can set your own cooking time if you don't want to use the presets.

The buttons are definitely fairly tactile but I nevertheless put some lock dots 
on them for an easier feel. 

The cooker is also very safe. There is no way you can open it once it comes up 
to pressure.

I've never seen the BT version so can't say the buttons and layout are the same 
but their standard pot is quite useable. Pressure cooking save a ton of time 
for all kinds of different dishes with the big advantage that all of the flavor 
is locked into whatever you're cooking. 

I'm definitely going to check out that podcast and see what this BT version is 
all about.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
macvoiceo...@freelists.org
Subject: Instant pot multi use appliance with accessible iPhone app

Hi all,
There has been a lot of talk on certain cooking related websites this past year 
about an appliance known as an instant pot. It is a multi use appliance, which 
combines the functionality of slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker, sauté 
pan, and some other stuff. I was interested in this device, until I finally 
found an article that went into enough detail to convince me that it would not 
be usable by a blind person.
Then just today, I found a podcast done by Victor Saren on applevis.  He 
demonstrates the Bluetooth app which makes the most expensive variant of the 
instant pot accessible to blind people. This is not a cheap appliance. But it 
may be under someone's Christmas tree tomorrow. I would be very curious if 
there's anyone on any of these lists who has or will be getting this pot and 
how you like it and the app. There are recipes on the instant pot website. And 
I have found some recipes on another website. You can also adapt pressure 
cooker recipes for it, but it cooks at a slightly lower pressure than the usual 
stovetop pressure cookers. The app also lets you enter your own recipes. There 
is also going to be or is, an android app
Mary


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Constantly being prompted for iCloud password

[Rick Alfaro]

Not sure why but as of a couple of weeks ago, I am repeatedly being asked to
enter in my PW in settings. This is on my iPhone 6s plus running IOS 9.2. I
enter it in and its accepted just fine but a few hours later, I'm asked to
do it again and so it goes. Before I call Apple support, does anyone have a
clue what this might be and how to fix it?



Best regards,

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RE: Constantly being prompted for iCloud password

[Rick Alfaro]

I also think it might be a bug. The funny thing is that when the prompt comes 
up if I choose "not now" instead of "settings", everything that is password 
related still works fine. Very annoying



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Constantly being prompted for iCloud password

Don't know either my is doing the same thing. I have a iphone5s running the 
latest IOS9 on it. It might be a bug. I would do a restore on it but it not 
agvating enough for me to do it at this time.


matt.from.flor...@gmail.com


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Rick Alfaro
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Subject: Constantly being prompted for iCloud password

Not sure why but as of a couple of weeks ago, I am repeatedly being asked to 
enter in my PW in settings. This is on my iPhone 6s plus running IOS 9.2. I 
enter it in and its accepted just fine but a few hours later, I'm asked to do 
it again and so it goes. Before I call Apple support, does anyone have a clue 
what this might be and how to fix it?



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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RE: Temporary fix for Netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

[Rick Alfaro]

FYI, just to relate my experience with this issue:

I called Netflix 3 different times, and referred to the help article 32751 in 
each case. All 3 reps insisted that what I wanted was not possible from their 
end and that I had to call Apple. The third rep was so adamant about this that 
he agreed to stay on the line so that I could place a call to Apple support 
which I did. The Apple rep assured the Netflix rep that he was mistaken and 
that Apple did not write or create the new Netflix app for the 4th generation 
of the apple TV. The Netflix rep at that point said, hang on a second, and then 
he disconnected the call.

I decided to try yet one more time but this time I did it via a chat session 
via the Netflix web site. I hate using these online support chat interfaces 
because they often are very tedious to use because the screen isn't sometimes 
updated to show new incoming text.  Anyhow, the person I got was terrific. I 
referred him to the same help article and explained what I wanted. He 
immediately understood and contacted their engineering staff where they could 
tell him how to enable the audio description from their end. The help article 
clearly states that they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix but 
ask you to call them for this temporary solution. The downside to this is that 
audio description is enabled for every profile under the account so if you have 
profiles for others that are sighted and don't like the audio description, they 
are stuck with it. This wasn't an issue for my family so I was fine with it. It 
took him a few minutes but it was done and I now have my audio description back 
until the fix is implemented on a future Netflix app update.


Sorry for the long winded account but bottom line is that trying to get this 
done all depends on who you get when you call. There are others I know of that 
have had success on the phone so don't give up and try the chat method if you 
are comfortable with that. The key is definitely that help article for a rep 
that isn't difficult to deal with and is willing to go the extra mile by 
contacting their engineering staff.


Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Temporary fix for Netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

Hello,
I have not done this personally. I had a tweet come across my timeline 
that said when you call them mention help article 32751. Hopefully this 
will get the person you talk to started in the right direction.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

Visit my on
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On 11/5/2015 1:15 PM, Blind Treasures wrote:
> Can you explain exactly what you said to Netflix because when I called them
> the lady had no idea how to fix the audio description. She kept wanting to
> turn on sub captioning. Then she said I had to go into Netflix and swipe
> down on the remote, then swipe right, and then swipe left. Any help  you can
> supply would be very helpful.
>
> Tony
>
> "I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than
> live a hundred years smothered by a lie."--Lena Haloway
>
> Blind Treasures
> sa...@blindtreasures.com
> PH: 804-726-8900
> Web: www.blindtreasures.com
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Temporary fix for Netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi. I wouldn't be so quick to ignore the text of the help article. Here is the 
text of the article from the Netflix web site.

I can't use Audio Descriptions on my new Apple TV  
 
 
I can't use Audio Descriptions on my new Apple TV 

As you can see the help article can be very useful because it shows the rep 
that there is indeed an issue and that Netvlix has acknowledged it. Although it 
doesn't say specifically what an engineer needs to do on their end to enable 
AD, it specifically mentions the issue. Of course it mentions Apple because it 
is afterall the new Apple TV and the Netflix app that exhibits the problem.

Glad you got it solved.


 
We are aware of an issue where 
audio descriptions 
 are not currently available on the new Apple TV. While we work on addressing 
the root cause, we are able to enable descriptive audio tracks on Apple TV for 
individual accounts. Please contact customer service by clicking on Start Live 
Chat or Call Us below and we can apply this temporary fix to your account.  
  Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve this issue. 



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Fischler
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Temporary fix for Netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

Hey guys,

First off thanks to who ever posted this fix with calling Netflix. I did not 
even realize Netflix had a phone number. Second, do not bother mentioning that 
help code posted in this thread as that code has something to do with Apple. I 
got a awesome customer service guy, and I explained I am blind and needed to 
speak to an engineer about getting Described video working on the 4th gen 
AppleTV. The guy was not familiar with described video but after a short hold 
and he speaking with an engineer he got the engineer on the line with us and 
they explained once turned on on the AppleTV there is no way to turn it off 
should you have another profile that you do not want to use described video 
which was fine with me. They do something on their end, they have you unplug 
the AppleTV, wait 15 seconds plug back in, takes a few minutes to reboot with 
no VO speaking then AppleTV comes back on. You go back to Netflix and bam 
described video is working on the new Apple TV. I did not have to log out of my 
Netflix account nor log back in. Good luck all.
> On Nov 6, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> FYI, just to relate my experience with this issue:
> 
> I called Netflix 3 different times, and referred to the help article 32751 in 
> each case. All 3 reps insisted that what I wanted was not possible from their 
> end and that I had to call Apple. The third rep was so adamant about this 
> that he agreed to stay on the line so that I could place a call to Apple 
> support which I did. The Apple rep assured the Netflix rep that he was 
> mistaken and that Apple did not write or create the new Netflix app for the 
> 4th generation of the apple TV. The Netflix rep at that point said, hang on a 
> second, and then he disconnected the call.
> 
> I decided to try yet one more time but this time I did it via a chat session 
> via the Netflix web site. I hate using these online support chat interfaces 
> because they often are very tedious to use because the screen isn't sometimes 
> updated to show new incoming text.  Anyhow, the person I got was terrific. I 
> referred him to the same help article and explained what I wanted. He 
> immediately understood and contacted their engineering staff where they could 
> tell him how to enable the audio description from their end. The help article 
> clearly states that they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix but 
> ask you to call them for this temporary solution. The downside to this is 
> that audio description is enabled for every profile under the account so if 
> you have profiles for others that are sighted and don't like the audio 
> description, they are stuck with it. This wasn't an issue for my family so I 
> was fine with it. It took him a few minutes but it was done and I now have my 
> audio description back until the fix is implemented on a future Netflix app 
> update.
> 
> 
> Sorry for the long winded account but bottom line is that trying to get this 
> done all depends on who you get when you call. There are others I know of 
> that have had success on the phone so don't give up and try the chat method 
> if you are comfortable with that. The key is definitely that help article for 
> a rep that isn't difficult to deal with and is willing to go the extra mile 
> by contacting their engineering staff.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vi

Temporary fix for Netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

[Rick Alfaro]

Sorry, forgot to paste in the text of article 32751. Here it is.

I can't use Audio Descriptions on my new Apple TV 
 
We are aware of an issue where 
audio descriptions 
 are not currently available on the new Apple TV. While we work on addressing 
the root cause, we are able to enable descriptive audio tracks on Apple TV for 
individual accounts. Please contact customer service by clicking on Start Live 
Chat or Call Us below and we can apply this temporary fix to your account.  
  Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve this issue. 

Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: Rick Alfaro [mailto:rick.alf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Temporary fix for Netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

Hi. I wouldn't be so quick to ignore the text of the help article. Here is the 
text of the article from the Netflix web site.

I can't use Audio Descriptions on my new Apple TV  
 
 
I can't use Audio Descriptions on my new Apple TV 

As you can see the help article can be very useful because it shows the rep 
that there is indeed an issue and that Netvlix has acknowledged it. Although it 
doesn't say specifically what an engineer needs to do on their end to enable 
AD, it specifically mentions the issue. Of course it mentions Apple because it 
is afterall the new Apple TV and the Netflix app that exhibits the problem.

Glad you got it solved.


 
We are aware of an issue where 
audio descriptions 
 are not currently available on the new Apple TV. While we work on addressing 
the root cause, we are able to enable descriptive audio tracks on Apple TV for 
individual accounts. Please contact customer service by clicking on Start Live 
Chat or Call Us below and we can apply this temporary fix to your account.  
  Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve this issue. 



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Fischler
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Temporary fix for Netflix audio description on the 4th gen apple TV

Hey guys,

First off thanks to who ever posted this fix with calling Netflix. I did not 
even realize Netflix had a phone number. Second, do not bother mentioning that 
help code posted in this thread as that code has something to do with Apple. I 
got a awesome customer service guy, and I explained I am blind and needed to 
speak to an engineer about getting Described video working on the 4th gen 
AppleTV. The guy was not familiar with described video but after a short hold 
and he speaking with an engineer he got the engineer on the line with us and 
they explained once turned on on the AppleTV there is no way to turn it off 
should you have another profile that you do not want to use described video 
which was fine with me. They do something on their end, they have you unplug 
the AppleTV, wait 15 seconds plug back in, takes a few minutes to reboot with 
no VO speaking then AppleTV comes back on. You go back to Netflix and bam 
described video is working on the new Apple TV. I did not have to log out of my 
Netflix account nor log back in. Good luck all.
> On Nov 6, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> FYI, just to relate my experience with this issue:
> 
> I called Netflix 3 different times, and referred to the help article 32751 in 
> each case. All 3 reps insisted that what I wanted was not possible from their 
> end and that I had to call Apple. The third rep was so adamant about this 
> that he agreed to stay on the line so that I could place a call to Apple 
> support which I did. The Apple rep assured the Netflix rep that he was 
> mistaken and that Apple did not write or create the new Netflix app for the 
> 4th generation of the apple TV. The Netflix rep at that point said, hang on a 
> second, and then he disconnected the call.
> 
> I decided to try yet one more time but this time I did it via a chat session 
> via the Netflix web site. I hate using these online support chat interfaces 
> because they often are very tedious to use because the screen isn't sometimes 
> updated to show new incoming text.  Anyhow, the person I got was terrific. I 
> referred him to the same help article and explained what I wanted. He 
> immediately understood and contacted their engineering staff where they could 
> tell him how to enable the audio description from their end. The help article 
> clearly states that they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix but 
> ask you to call them for this temporary solution. The downside to this is 
> that audio description is enabled for every profile under the account so if 
> you have profiles for others that are sighted and don't like the audio 
> description, they are stuck with i

RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi, try hitting the forward button followed by the play button once while 
playing the ad. This at least for me, skips right over the ad and goes right to 
the real content, only a couple of quick button presses which is certainly 
better than sitting through the entire ad.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

I really liked the YouTube app on my third generation Apple TV up until a week 
or so ago. I used it more than Hulu and Netflix combined. However, lately, 
probably because of this new plan to collect a monthly fee, if I try to play a 
video on the Apple TV the advertisement is sometimes longer than the video I 
wish to play. I honestly would buy Apple Music before I would buy a monthly 
YouTube subscription as I can't buy both. I may end up hiding YouTube along 
with the seventy other channels I can't use because my cable provider does not 
allow me to watch most of their content. Which is why I will not be buying a 
new Apple TV at this time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

Hi,

OK, so I checked into this Youtube thing a bit more and on second generation 
Apple TV they are definitely gone, anybody who claims otherwise probably has a 
third generation Apple TV. I also found out that the third generation Apple TV 
which was originally released in March of 2012 had a small update (not sure 
what that was) and a Revision A was released in January of 2013. It appears 
that Youtube is still available on the third generation Apple TV and I thought 
that is what I had, but apparently I have only a second generation Apple TV. I 
sort of remembered this now because when the third generation Apple TV came out 
I was debating whether I should buy one, but I believe one of the few 
improvements was that it can stream in 1280P whereas the second gen can only do 
720P and to me that was not very important. Anybody who wants to check, here 
are the actual model numbers which would tell you exactly which one you have 
including the first generation Apple TV which came out in 2007 and was 
available with a 40 Gb or 160 Gb hard drive and which probably not too many 
people have any more.
Below the model information I am pasting two links which talk about the Youtube 
thing:

Apple TV (1st generation)
Year introduced: Early 2007
Color: Silver
Capacity: 40 or 160 GB
Model number on bottom: A1218
Model Identifier: AppleTV1,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI and component video (480P or 720P) • Optical and RCA stereo audio • 
10/100BASE-T Ethernet • Built-in IR receiver • USB 2.0 (for service and 
support) • Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n)

Apple TV (2nd generation)
Year introduced: Late 2010
Color: Black
 Model number on bottom: A1378
 Model Identifier: AppleTV2,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Apple TV (3rd generation)
Year introduced: Early 2012
Color: Black
 Model number on bottom: A1427
Model Identifier: AppleTV3,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P or 1080P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Apple TV (3rd generation, Revision A)
Year introduced: Early 2013
 Model number on bottom: A1469
Model Identifier:AppleTV3,2
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P or 1080P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Articles about Youtube going away on second generation Apple TV:
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/20/youtube-older-apple-tv-discontinued/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7029264


Best regards,
Sieghard

---Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
chris
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

Actually Youtube is still available and working to my knowledge on the third 
generation, now entry level, model.

On 26/10/2015 17:44, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Primarily it is the SIRI capable remote and the fact that the new Apple TV 
> has access to its own app store.
>
> I also would assume that eventually there will be new content which may not 
> be available on the third gen Apple TV. One example already is Youtube. As of 
> a few months ago the Youtube app is gone from the old Apple TV and while you 
> could still watch Youtube on your TV via the Apple TV by playing it on your 
> iOS device and sending it to the Apple TV using Airplay, it is nice to 

RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Sieghard, I have both a second and third gen of the Apple TV and can confirm 
that YouTube no longer is available on the second gen, only on the third gen. 
It was there at one time but as you said, Apple removed it with one of their 
updates.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

Hi,

OK, so I checked into this Youtube thing a bit more and on second generation 
Apple TV they are definitely gone, anybody who claims otherwise probably has a 
third generation Apple TV. I also found out that the third generation Apple TV 
which was originally released in March of 2012 had a small update (not sure 
what that was) and a Revision A was released in January of 2013. It appears 
that Youtube is still available on the third generation Apple TV and I thought 
that is what I had, but apparently I have only a second generation Apple TV. I 
sort of remembered this now because when the third generation Apple TV came out 
I was debating whether I should buy one, but I believe one of the few 
improvements was that it can stream in 1280P whereas the second gen can only do 
720P and to me that was not very important. Anybody who wants to check, here 
are the actual model numbers which would tell you exactly which one you have 
including the first generation Apple TV which came out in 2007 and was 
available with a 40 Gb or 160 Gb hard drive and which probably not too many 
people have any more.
Below the model information I am pasting two links which talk about the Youtube 
thing:

Apple TV (1st generation)
Year introduced: Early 2007
Color: Silver
Capacity: 40 or 160 GB
Model number on bottom: A1218
Model Identifier: AppleTV1,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI and component video (480P or 720P)
• Optical and RCA stereo audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• USB 2.0 (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n)

Apple TV (2nd generation)
Year introduced: Late 2010
Color: Black
 Model number on bottom: A1378
 Model Identifier: AppleTV2,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Apple TV (3rd generation)
Year introduced: Early 2012
Color: Black
 Model number on bottom: A1427
Model Identifier: AppleTV3,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P or 1080P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Apple TV (3rd generation, Revision A)
Year introduced: Early 2013
 Model number on bottom: A1469
Model Identifier:AppleTV3,2
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P or 1080P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Articles about Youtube going away on second generation Apple TV:
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/20/youtube-older-apple-tv-discontinued/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7029264


Best regards,
Sieghard

---Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
chris
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

Actually Youtube is still available and working to my knowledge on the third 
generation, now entry level, model.

On 26/10/2015 17:44, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Primarily it is the SIRI capable remote and the fact that the new Apple TV 
> has access to its own app store.
>
> I also would assume that eventually there will be new content which may not 
> be available on the third gen Apple TV. One example already is Youtube. As of 
> a few months ago the Youtube app is gone from the old Apple TV and while you 
> could still watch Youtube on your TV via the Apple TV by playing it on your 
> iOS device and sending it to the Apple TV using Airplay, it is nice to just 
> sit on the couch and check out Youtube content on the Apple TV. For me that 
> alone is almost worth it and combining it with having access to voice control 
> via SIRI and an app store which has huge potential means I just ordered my 
> new Apple TV from the Canadian online Apple Store using the Apple Store app.
>
> For once Apple is not price gouging like they are doing with the iPhone 6S 
> and 6S Plus on contract. The 64 Gb Apple TV which is $199 US is $269 canadian 
> and at 30% more that is right in line and actually maybe a few percent better 
> than the current exchange rate.
>
> If you go for the 32 Gb option for $149, it’s only an extra $80 more than the 
> third gen Apple TV and if you are a first time buyer I think it’s a 
> no-brainer.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.co