Re: AirPods Max first impressions

[Yuma Decaux]

Bluetooth will have some form of lag no matter what, as it’s not quantum 
transmissions. And when you’re working on code for example, you don’t want any 
lag between when you type the key and you hear it. using the lightning to Jack 
connector gives you direct audio input instead of Bluetooth, where there is no 
lag at all. I haven’t tried this on any Windows platform, I don’t use anything 
Windows related.Or anything Microsoft related as a matter of fact.

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> On 7/03/2021, at 9:30 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yuma,
> You mentioned something that makes me wonder.
> You mentioned you can use the 3.5 jack to not be bothered by the lag with 
> Bluetooth; do you find lag with the Bluetooth?
>  
> Can you, for example, use the headphones with the cable and a Windows 
> computer?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
> Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> As a happy owner of the airpod max, here are why I use them all the time:
>  
> 1-They are extremely comfortable
> 2-The transparency mode really feels like getting into a space capsule and 
> back out
> 3-I can connect the lightning to jack cable to do work uninterrupted with no 
> lag from the bluetooth
> 4-The sound quality is simply top notch.
> 5-I would expect new updates to give us some crazy features as things go along
> 6-Can't neglect the design. it's just beautiful.
>  
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Yuma 
>  
> 
> 
> On 6 Mar 2021, at 3:35 am, Robert Carter  wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have the AirPods Max and agree with what has been said. They are fantastic 
> and the battery life is excellent.
>  
> I am on Zoom several hours a day for my job. The AirPods Max work great with 
> Zoom.
>  
> I got my wife the AirPods Max. She uses them to watch TV with the Apple TV. 
> She loves them.
>  
> Robert Carter
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Rizzino, Bonnie  wrote:
>  
> I am a little jealous as I have 3 years before retirement. I suppose time 
> will fly, or at least that’s what everybody tells me!  (smile)!
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> No worries, I completely understand.
> I worked from home the last 6 months before I was able to retire and it 
> really stretched my brain.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 8:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> You are right! Forgive me. I am multi-tasking again. I should never do that. 
> My only excuse is that I am working from home.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> www.bvrspittsburgh.org
> 412-368-4400 X2246
> Direct dial 412-368-4079
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> That is quite amazing.  That is better to me than just “very good.” (grin)
>  
> If anyone else has these headphones, please chime in with your experience.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> Rizzino, Bonnie
> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: AirPods Max first impressions
>  
> I apologize. Best guess 12 to 14 hours listening time at least.
>  
> Bonnie Rizzino
> Case Manager
> Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
> 1816 Locust St.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15219
> 

Re: Astreos

[Yuma Decaux]

 of Larry Wayland 
> mailto:lhwayl...@sbcglobal.net>>
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:44:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: RE: Astreos
>  
> Yes, I would very much like to have the link.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Astreos
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> AstreOS is going through an overhaul, as we are adding some AI features and 
> sonification tools to analyse the objects in the skies.
> 
> the original project was simply to make things accessible in the augmented 
> reality sense, but between adding the entire universe, uni, a ted talk, the 
> Holman prize, covid and others, I don't have the deep pockets that some other 
> companies have, so I am working on the new features with another developer 
> who is supporting the code for the backend.
> 
> I will put the new version up tomorrow and link the public test flight 
> through this thread if anyone is interested.
> 
> Have a great sunday 
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
> > On 6 Dec 2020, at 3:50 am, Richard Turner  > <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > I just tried it again by pointing the camera at the sky and it is amazingly 
> > nice with VoiceOver.
> > Then, I discovered, it works indoors, even though the camera is only 
> > showing stuff in the house, it is reporting the stars etc., you would be 
> > pointing at if you were outside I guess.
> > I saw until I was 12 and we spent lots and lots of time in the outdoors, 
> > camping in the Sierra mountains, or on the beach around Big Sur,  and did 
> > lots of star gazing at night, so I have always had a fascination with that 
> > kind of information.
> > Later,
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> > flying.
> > There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> > learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> > --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> > 
> > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
> > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C4def44016b884a0379c808d89e977c6c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637433720768690652%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=ki%2BuGFGGYwOmdExlt7WNoNNZjrpIbnVdGF9Rp3hpcGg%3D=0>
> > 
> > *I’m not the card shark
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> > Richard Turner
> > Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:40 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: Astreos
> > 
> > I have no vision, but my wife is sighted.
> > I took a quick browse through some information and it read quite well with 
> > VoiceOver though in some of the planet descriptions it was reading the code 
> > rather than some punctuation.  When I can have my wife looking at it, I'll 
> > track down exactly what those are.
> > 
> > I'm hoping it will help my wife find the spot in the sky where Jupiter and 
> > Saturn are going to be aligned on December 21st.  The first time in 800 
> > years.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> > flying.
> > There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> > learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> > --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> > 
> > Check out my web site at: 
> > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t 
> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t>
> > urner42.com 
> > <http://urner42.com/>%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf132ca18b7224ca5f41708d89944d08b%
> > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637427868113674543%7CUnkn
> > own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
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Re: Astreos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

AstreOS is going through an overhaul, as we are adding some AI features and 
sonification tools to analyse the objects in the skies.

the original project was simply to make things accessible in the augmented 
reality sense, but between adding the entire universe, uni, a ted talk, the 
Holman prize, covid and others, I don't have the deep pockets that some other 
companies have, so I am working on the new features with another developer who 
is supporting the code for the backend.

I will put the new version up tomorrow and link the public test flight through 
this thread if anyone is interested.

Have a great sunday 

Yuma 


> On 6 Dec 2020, at 3:50 am, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I just tried it again by pointing the camera at the sky and it is amazingly 
> nice with VoiceOver.
> Then, I discovered, it works indoors, even though the camera is only showing 
> stuff in the house, it is reporting the stars etc., you would be pointing at 
> if you were outside I guess.
> I saw until I was 12 and we spent lots and lots of time in the outdoors, 
> camping in the Sierra mountains, or on the beach around Big Sur,  and did 
> lots of star gazing at night, so I have always had a fascination with that 
> kind of information.
> Later,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Astreos
> 
> I have no vision, but my wife is sighted.
> I took a quick browse through some information and it read quite well with 
> VoiceOver though in some of the planet descriptions it was reading the code 
> rather than some punctuation.  When I can have my wife looking at it, I'll 
> track down exactly what those are.
> 
> I'm hoping it will help my wife find the spot in the sky where Jupiter and 
> Saturn are going to be aligned on December 21st.  The first time in 800 years.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf132ca18b7224ca5f41708d89944d08b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637427868113674543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=QSPShdAXaZlVl%2FCjq7H0znP20tFqtJHlACBJs%2FbzeJY%3Dreserved=0
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
> Nalda
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Astreos
> 
> Will be curious to see how you get along with SkyView lite. I’m a high 
> partial but noted everything was reading and tracking with voiceover. But if 
> you have any vision, the graphics on SkyView Lite are pretty nice. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 'I noticed that too. And I had received an email from Catherine from that 
>> project in August announcing that they were switching to the public 
>> Testflight link instead of the private test link, then it was removed.I just 
>> checked out Skyview Light and now wonder if you are right that its 
>> accessibility is vastly improved, so Astreos is maybe no more.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 3:13 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Noticed that Astreos is no longer available on test flight. Is it because 
>>> that accessibility has been improved in Skyview lite?
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
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Re: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi guys,

I find the argumentation that Apple does not include BVI in their public betas 
seems a bit over the top, considering that Apple had warned that the current 
beta will not be accessible. This can be due to many different variables, 
including that Apple may be transferring their code base to a new framework 
that is currently not 100% and requires some more refinements. If you agree to 
download a beta, the agreement holds for all clauses given by Apple, including 
warnings, and other bugs that may cause your device not to function until you 
either a reset or downgrade the OS or a new build comes out. You specifically 
agree to all these clauses, so complaining after that your device is not 
working using a beta, I repeat beta installation is like agreeing to 
participate in a medical trial for some kind of tablet, and you complain after 
that your bowels are loose.

If Apple decided to omit BVI for one build out of many, and have clearly 
mentioned this, I see no reason for myself to download that beta, since I 
already have a fully functional device, and trying to go bleeding edge is 
always an issue no matter what software product. Waiting for the next beta 
build isn't the end of the world, and life has a lot of other activities to 
partake in.

Isn't it simple just to wait, considering that Apple has given a tremendous 
amount of time to make mac OS and all its other products accessible on the get 
go, and that you are going bleeding edge at your own risk?

I am a developer myself, and will never install bleeding edge mac OS builds on 
a critical device as I know I will run the risk of not being able to do certain 
tasks, because some features are being refined and in that process, some 
accessibility buttons or features may be temporarily broken.

Besides, Apple's commitment to accessibility is not a mystery, and the current 
switch to a merger between mac OS IOS and others seems like a good direction, 
that will make our devices clearly more integrated. Finally, if you had 
purchased the beta and it bricked your device for good, then this might be some 
justification to be angry, but none of this is the case.

Have a great rest of week y'all,

Yuma 


> On 17 Aug 2020, at 4:29 pm, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> The reason behind Jonathan creating the petition is twofold: 1. Apple's 
> warning to voiceover users on Apple watches not to install the beta, leaving 
> blind individuals unable to beta test. 2. It was brought to Jonathan's 
> attention that someone had installed the public beta on their watch, 
> rendering the watch unusable. Even though the petition didn't mention the 
> above second point. It was part of the basis for starting the petition. Both 
> points above show that Apple showed a lack of disgard for the blind public 
> beta testers, by not having a voiceover compatible beta version available for 
> the Apple watch. 
> 
> What confuses me, it seems that blind public beta testers are under the 
> mindset that sighted public beta testers do not have to deal with major bugs 
> that render their devices unusable. This isn't true. I suggest that people go 
> read the developer and beta tester forums on Apple's website. If for no other 
> reason, to educate yourself. 
> 
> 
>> 
>> I'm not sure what I should look into more. The petition, which I did read, 
>> says nothing about someone installing a beta with a VoiceOver bug after they 
>> were warned not to by Apple. The petition just said that a public beta was 
>> made available but blind people using VoiceOver couldn't participate due to 
>> a VoiceOver bug. IMHO, if a public beta is made available to the sighted 
>> then it should also be made available to the blind. It seems pretty cut and 
>> dry to me.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully 
>>> excluding
>>> disabled people from public betas · Change.org
>>> 
>>> Hi Christopher,
>>> 
>>> You should read more into it,
>>> 
>>> The person behind this idea did install the pb for watch os 7 to their 
>>> primary
>>> watch device and voiceover wasn't working
>>> 
>>> Apple do state that you shouldn't put a beta on to a primary device as it 
>>> is a beta
>>> and therefore may cause issues  that mean the device wont work correctly,
>>> 
>>> This person had to send their watch away to have it setup again and blaims 
>>> this
>>> all on appples attitude towards visually impaired users of there devices 
>>> When it
>>> really comes down to the users ignorance and not listening to apples 
>>> suggestion.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of chalt...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, 16 August 2020 9:01 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Petition · Apple: 

Re: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

[Yuma Decaux]

Just my 50 cents here, but I feel like Apple has been very consistent with 
including disabled beta testers, in this particular case, the BVI community.

I have been beta testing apple software since 2011, and always been included in 
the program, so I'm not sure where the intent of this petition stems from.

If anyone here feels omitted from the program, I'm sure someone in the beta 
list can recommend you to the program so you can get an invite and start 
testing.

Have a great week,

Yuma 


> On 17 Aug 2020, at 11:24 am, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> Yep.
> Now imagine if the digital crown didn't work, and sioghted users were told 
> not to install the public beta for Watch OS7. Does anyone think that they'd 
> stand for that?
> 
> -Original Message- From: chalt...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 2:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully 
> excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org
> 
> I'm not sure what I should look into more. The petition, which I did read, 
> says nothing about someone installing a beta with a VoiceOver bug after they 
> were warned not to by Apple. The petition just said that a public beta was 
> made available but blind people using VoiceOver couldn't participate due to a 
> VoiceOver bug. IMHO, if a public beta is made available to the sighted then 
> it should also be made available to the blind. It seems pretty cut and dry to 
> me.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully 
>> excluding
>> disabled people from public betas · Change.org
>> 
>> Hi Christopher,
>> 
>> You should read more into it,
>> 
>> The person behind this idea did install the pb for watch os 7 to their 
>> primary
>> watch device and voiceover wasn't working
>> 
>> Apple do state that you shouldn't put a beta on to a primary device as it is 
>> a beta
>> and therefore may cause issues  that mean the device wont work correctly,
>> 
>> This person had to send their watch away to have it setup again and blaims 
>> this
>> all on appples attitude towards visually impaired users of there devices 
>> When it
>> really comes down to the users ignorance and not listening to apples 
>> suggestion.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of chalt...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, 16 August 2020 9:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Petition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully 
>> excluding
>> disabled people from public betas · Change.org
>> 
>> I didn't see anything in the petition that said anyone went ahead and 
>> installed
>> the beta even after Apple warned that voiceOver users shouldn't install the 
>> beta.
>> The point of the petition, as I read it, is that Apple shouldn't exclude 
>> blind people
>> from participating in the public beta because of such a serious and known
>> VoiceOver bug. I myself do find a lot of petitions are frivolous and over 
>> the top,
>> but I don't have a problem with this one myself.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of
>> > Donna Casteen
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:17 AM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully
>> > excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org
>> >
>> > I can't believe such a petition was started!!臘‍♀️ This petition
>> > was started because an Apple watch user went against Apple's WARNING
>> > to NEVER install beta versions of IOS on ANY Appple device that is
>> > YOUR main device! Of course, this person just HAD to have the beta
>> > update & installed the beta version on their Apple watch that they
>> > RELY on & USE daily!  Beta versions of any program WILL have bugs. The
>> > fact that Apple is a company that stands behind their products making
>> > them accessible for the blind & those with other disabilities, does
>> > NOT exclude Apple's beta versions of IOS from having bugs. Nor does this > 
>> > bug
>> prevent those who are blind taking part in the public beta testing process.
>> > Apple was FULLY aware of the voiceover bug Associated with ALL Apple
>> > watches. And fully WARNED voiceover users with Apple watches of the bug.
>> > Apple also informed voiceover users that they were working on fixing
>> > the voiceover bug, so that voiceover users could participate in the
>> > public beta testing program. Placing the blame on Apple & criticizing
>> > Apple for a problem that they were working toward fixing, is wrong.
>> > The Blame solely lies with Apple watch user(s), who in their poor
>> > judgement decided to install the public beta on a device, 

Safari web experience getting less and less satisfying

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to do some simple things like shopping for a jacket, looking at 
diffferent websites, and I've noticed that a lot of forms don't work or do what 
they are expected to. Like simple popup buttons, search text fields or normal 
text fields. It's getting pretty shoddy at this point, and putting me off from 
doing anything on the web outside of reading.

Is anyone experiencing this?

have a great sunday 


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Re: Apple cancels AirPower wireless charging mat, citing quality issues

[Yuma Decaux]

I got the AirPods 2 a few days ago, and to be honest it doesn't affect me 
negatively not to have the wireless charger. if anything, I move around a lot, 
so both classic and wireless methods of charging require a cable of some sort. 
having a cable that works also as my iphone charger makes it simpler, less 
clutter etc.


The airpod2 are quite faster in connecting and the sound is much better both 
volume and quality, so I'm quite happy with this purchase :)




> On 31 Mar 2019, at 3:15 am, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I assume there will be some people  up in arms over it since that's what some 
> people do, but it's just a product from Apple. Apple still supports wireless 
> charging on their latest iPhones. IMHO, the fact that Apple doesn't offer 
> their own wireless charging pad isn't that big a deal.
> 
> 
> On 3/30/19 10:35 AM, lenron brown wrote:
>> I think they could have made it work but they didn't. Companies have
>> failed products sometimes it is what it is.
>> 
>> On 3/30/19, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>>> A lot of people are going to be up in arms 9over it.  Another case of
>>> announceing and not delivering.  What will do now?  Tim cook will have some
>>> explaining to do.  IMO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: '鍾 智明' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:24 PM
>>> To: viphone 
>>> Subject: Apple cancels AirPower wireless charging mat, citing quality
>>> issues
>>> 
>>> Apple cancels AirPower wireless charging mat, citing quality issues...
>>> http://appleinsider.com/articles/19/03/29/apple-cancels-airpower-wireless-charging-mat
>>> 
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Re: Instant Pot in the UK

[Yuma Decaux]

So basically this instant pot is not accessible? I had seen streams of threads 
about it here but now that i’m thinking of getting it, i hear the eye gouging 
price, and it’s not accessible? Holy cow shit, so much for hype and consumer 
frenzy

Sent from sputnik7 

> On 3/02/2019, at 3:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The Instant Pot is a pressure cooker, rice cooker, slow cooker and a number 
> of other things all in one.
> Interestingly enough even though this is a Canadian company the new Instant 
> Pot WiFi is currently only available on Amazon from third party sellers for 
> $338.22. In the US you can buy it on Amazon for $149.99 and on Cyber Monday 
> it was on sale for $89.99 US. I wish I had bought one from Amazon.com for 
> that price at the time. Back then (in November and December) Amazon Canada 
> sold it anywhere from $189.99 to $199.99 Canadian and it was fulfilled by 
> Amazon, now that expensive offer is from a third party seller. I have written 
> to Instant Pot asking for an explanation for this and while I did get an 
> email with a bunch of mumbo jumbo my reply apparently wasn’t worthy of a 
> further answer.
> I am at a point where even if it were again available for $199 Canadian I 
> would have to think twice of even buying anything from that company. They 
> did, by the way, assure me that they would fix the accessibility issues and 
> those who bought it should hound them relentlessly once or twice a month with 
> emails asking why no app update with improvements has yet been forthcoming. 
> Too bad I’m not a Twitter or much of a Facebook user or I’d start posting 
> nasty messages on their social media accounts, sometimes that seems to get 
> the most attention because these messages can also be seen by al their other 
> followers who may not think to well of the company.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
> Bell
> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 8:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Instant Pot in the UK
>  
> Hi Alex, I think an instant pot is more like a pressure cooker than just a 
> pot noodle
>  
> From: Alex Stone
> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 3:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Instant Pot in the UK
>  
> Pot noodle
> 
> On 2 Feb 2019, at 11:10, 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All
>  
> I’ve been reading a lot about you guys talking about the Instant Pot.
>  
> It looks like it isn’t available in the U.K.
>  
> Does anybody know of an equivalent I can buy over here?
>  
> Thanks
> Martin
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Happy new year and reflections

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

I'm about to close off for 2018, and wanted to wish all of you a happy new 
year, the best opportunities knocking at your doors, and plenty of adventures 
to come :)

I also wanted to share with you some reflections and an update on what's coming 
up with Astreos. 

Some of you may know, but the app has been featured across the world, in a 
physics magazine in the UK, a Russian science magazine, Blind cool tech and 
many others.

To keep pace with the feature requests, I have been working hard on a few 
things, but thought it better to create a blog entry that you can read below:

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/a-look-back-and-the-expanse-of-astreos 



Do keep up to date with what's happening as next year I'm adding a feature that 
will blow away both astronomers and amateur users alike. In fact, this has 
never been done in a space app, though quite a few features are already new and 
unique.

I will be pushing some updates for those who are on the beta list as well, with 
a new universal search feature as we have many mor objects available, now also 
black holes. Imagine knowing where the center of our galaxy is, and seeing and 
feeling the massive black hole that is residing right there, tearing stars 
apart. I get a sense of the grandeur of the universe when I check it out.

In any case, logging off for this great year and wishing everyone the best for 
the next :)

A++

Yuma 



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Re: Big Astreos update

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Fanus,

As Sieghard mentioned, it's still in beta stage, as I'm adding a lot of content 
to the app.

You can subscribe to the below link and I will send you the test flight invite 
to try it out.

https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts>

Have a great weekend 




> On 29 Sep 2018, at 7:32 pm, Fanus  wrote:
> 
> Hello Yuma
> I am very interested in your app but I notice that it is not available in the 
> South African app store. Do you have plans to make it available here some 
> time in future?
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Yuma Decaux <>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 8:06 AM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <>
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Big Astreos update
>  
> Hi everyone,
>  
> I hope y'all are having a good week.
>  
> Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to 
> test flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some 
> more features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.
>  
> In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
> while I was out at the local comic shop.
>  
> Below is the link:
>  
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0 
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0>
>  
> Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, 
> please go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing 
> how you would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and 
> events permeating our skies.
>  
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>  
> A++
>  
> Yuma
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Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

[Yuma Decaux]

The point is, some dude who spends his time in an office chasing for news on 
RSS feeds, bloomberg, AFP, and his email Vs. The engineer who spends time 
solving problems, I take the latter for quality any day. one's in a dog pound, 
the other clearing the field.

The first savours writing a piece for the sake of pushing his thoughts unto 
others. The latter takes pleasure in unlocking one secret of the universe at a 
time, through hands on experience, both good and bad. 

The first reminds me of Euripides and the latter Aeschylus. one uses verbality 
to sway among the crown halls, the other his arms and thinking process to get 
out of doo doo, and conquer at the best of odds. Augustus's son, in the 
gladiator told his dad:
"You wrote me a letter once, about the virtues you love in a son: wisdom, 
fortitude and temperement. From what I can see, I have none of those. But I 
have virtues too: ambition, passion, love.

Society needs both prototypes, but drawing a line between acctual useful 
information and complete stuff fluffery keeps tinfoil conspiracies at bay.

have a great day 
 

> On 27 Sep 2018, at 1:46 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Exactly, you can get cheap Android phones but they are far from the quality 
> of an iPhone and if you want a top of the line Google Pixel or Samsung then 
> the price isn't all that different. Keep in mind that you typically have to 
> compare a top of a line Android phone with the cheapest iPhone in terms of 
> storage options since at least the last time I checked none of these phones 
> came with 256 let alone half a Gigabyte of storage, instead they let you put 
> in an SD card for storage of music, pictures and such which gives you some 
> flexibility but it will also be less efficient in terms of speed and 
> performance. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to bash these devices except 
> for saying they are just no good compared to an iPhone OK, I am joking 
> here.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider
> 
> Well, some Android phones cost around $1,000. They just have a greater 
> variety, because of competition. Several brands are Android, which does keep 
> the cost down. 
> 
> My cousin who has one scolded me for not having security code. Here's what I 
> don't understand, would I have to enter the thing every time I unlocked my 
> phone? If I did not, how would the phone know I unlocked or robber bad boy 
> unlocked it? 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 12:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider
> 
> Lest we forget, Apple has always positioned itself as a prestige brand. The 
> SE and budget friendly iPads for schools are the exception.
> If you can't afford the BMW or ancillary cost of owning one, many folks would 
> say . . . get the Toyota instead.
> I'd sure like for iPhones to be cheaper, but, it's not like they've got a 
> monopoly  on the market.
> I mean, there's always Android. That's the way it goes.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 5:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider
> 
> And what do you all think how much places like Walmart make on a lot of the 
> clothing they sell especially the stuff they manufacture themselves in places 
> like Bangladesh where people who make the stuff get paid a couple of bucks a 
> day for putting in 12 hours of work. I sell brand name outdoor clothing and 
> equipment like North Face and Mountain Hardwear. A top of the line Gortex 
> jacket from any of these companies can run $500 US, typically that is sold at 
> a 50% margin which means a 100% mark-up or in good old plain terms the 
> retailer doubles the price he pays to the company. So, said jacket which the 
> customer pays $500 for has a cost for the retailer of $250. In fashion such 
> margins are easily double or triple.
> What does the manufacturer, say North Face, pay for the actual material in 
> the jacket? There is the face fabric which is what you feel when you touch 
> the outside of the jacket, typically some form of nylon or polyester or a mix 
> of those. Then there is the Gortex membrane which is laminated to the face 
> fabric and which allows moisture in vapour form to pass through but moisture 
> in the form of water droplets can't go in. Finally there is the lining and of 
> course there are the zippers, maybe a bit of velcro at the cuffs, some draw 
> strings etc. I honestly have 

Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi mark,

The article doesn't state the Bill of Material, but purely bases itself on 
costs of components. it pretty much omits several phases in the logistics of 
getting an iPhone out to the customer.

Being a hardware/software design house, and being part of the hardware tech 
sector in Brisbane, we come across a lot of scenarios, and what is stated below 
does not mean that Apple makes near 300% of margin. unless otherwise stated, 
there is a balance sheet between overheads (salaries, facilities, R), then 
packaging, shipping, and after care services, surplus units for retail store 
exchanges, and the list goes on, vs the actual profits.

Apple being a vertical company, it makes a higher margin than say Amazon which 
is more horizontal, made of collaborations with its army of retailers. Still, 
to state that Apple simply makes that much margin is probably not correct, and 
a great ink shedding tool for media as the tradition goes.

This does not change my opinion about the new iPhone though, which I have 
touched at the local telecom store, it felt exactly like my iPhone 8+ and 
nothing the sales person told me prompted me to upgrade at this date.

Have a great day 

A++




> On 26 Sep 2018, at 2:19 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts
> By Reuters
> . Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
> to a new analysis.
> . The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
> $1249.
> . Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
> estimate that's "even close to accurate."
> . Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
> iPhones.
> Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping
> keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its
> phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device. 
> TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to
> analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on
> Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity
> contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for
> the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X. 
> Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update
> on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the
> budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max -
> with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer
> colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099. 
> In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the single
> priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared
> with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch
> screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen size
> was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its
> so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending on
> how hard users press the screen. 
> "All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate
> would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at
> TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost." 
> An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the
> study. 
> But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right
> decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this
> year economically. 
> "For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's
> driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about
> using the phone," O'Donnell said. 
> Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips,
> primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel and
> Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while
> taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights
> analyzed sells for $1,249 in the United States. 
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-xs-max-teardown-and-parts-cost-estima
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Big Astreos update

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi everyone,

I hope y'all are having a good week.

Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to test 
flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some more 
features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

Below is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0 


Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, please 
go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing how you 
would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and events 
permeating our skies.

https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts 


A++

Yuma 

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Re: Macaron wins the Australian Dyson award

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Mr. Ed,

Yes it talks. There's a bunch of synchronisations between device and app which 
allows for choosing measurement modes, folders or taking template sequences for 
measuring, sending to dropbox in various formats, firmware updates etc. You can 
either record measurements when offline, which then synchs automatically when 
the app opens, or do it with the app running, both active and in the background 
(meaning you can take measurements while your phone's in a pocket and it will 
confirm your measurements and recordings while the phone is closed). We have 
also integrated a speaker on the device for standalone voice output, though at 
this moment, I'm not satisfied with the TTS as I find it too low resolution to 
fit the quality of the device. There are a few more sensors inside that figures 
out whether you're right or left handed, then changes the push button functions 
to adapt to your style of holding the Macaron.

We are looking at 99 USD for one unit for the base version, and slightly more 
for the fancier one. The only difference is materials. 

As you seem to have a fair amount of knowledge and usage time with tape 
measures, I'd like to speak off list to ask you some use case scenarios. My 
email is anto...@oseyeris.com <mailto:anto...@oseyeris.com>


have a great day 



> On 7 Sep 2018, at 9:26 am, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Is this tape measure going to talk. I have the same one Sieghard has. So what 
> is the app going to do and what is the tape measure going to do. Another 
> words is the tape measure going to talk or is it going to give you dimension 
> in the app. I use to be a machinist and a tool and die maker for 23 years. I 
> would be interested in giving input.
> Mr. Ed
>   <>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Yuma Decaux
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 8:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Macaron wins the Australian Dyson award
>  
> Hi Sieghard,
>  
> Yes, I have been interacting with the local Vision Australia woodwork shop, 
> and the manager told me that sub millimeter or 1/32 inch accuracy was not 
> necesarrily required but appreciated. However your opinion does incentivise 
> us to actually go for the 1/32 holy grail, so I will push it into the dev 
> pipeline.
>  
> For the ruggedness, we have been doing drop tests, and adapting the internals 
> to take shocks, like slapping the unit across a dining table to crash against 
> a wall or droping it from waist height directly onto it's LED face. We've had 
> some casualties at the beginning, but are having much better results. We also 
> have had several suggestions to add a lead to the unit so people can hang it 
> around their necks or clip it to their waist. the unit is very lightweight 
> because of its flexible ribbon, unlike the old types of tape measures. We did 
> some modifications on being able to clip in several important internal 
> components, so that we can fill spaces with various silicone and absorbing 
> materials, looked at the casing's internal structure so that we can machine 
> aluminum/metallic versions without it suffering dents and bumps, and have 
> looked at creating a resin bumper around for those who tend to manhandle 
> their devices.
>  
> Let's continue this conversation off list, as I would like to ask you a few 
> more woodwork related questions.
>  
> have a great day 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 6 Sep 2018, at 4:33 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Yuma,
>  
> As I mentioned I do woodworking which means I do anything from carpentry like 
> I am currently building a little addition on the side of my house for storage 
> to making displays for my retail store to more fine woodworking projects like 
> furniture, fancy cutting boards etc.
> I have two main measuring devices I use to measure my workpieces and set up 
> my machines like table saw, router, drill press etc.:
>  
> 1. The Clickrule which is a mechanical device that consists of a main unit 
> available in metric or imperial, accuracy is to the sixteenth of an inch and 
> to the millimeter,, respectively. It is a bit hard to describe, maybe you 
> know it already so for now I will leave it at this.
> 2. The Cobolt talking tape measure from England which can do either imperial 
> or metric at the push of a button, accuracy to the millimeter for metric and 
> sicteenth of an inch for imperial.
>  
> For the most part the sixteenth of an inch accuracy is OK, as you know the 
> millimeter accuracy is about half way between that of a 1/16 to that of a 
> 1/32 so better than 1/16 but not quite 

Re: Macaron wins the Australian Dyson award

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Sieghard,

Yes, I have been interacting with the local Vision Australia woodwork shop, and 
the manager told me that sub millimeter or 1/32 inch accuracy was not 
necesarrily required but appreciated. However your opinion does incentivise us 
to actually go for the 1/32 holy grail, so I will push it into the dev pipeline.

For the ruggedness, we have been doing drop tests, and adapting the internals 
to take shocks, like slapping the unit across a dining table to crash against a 
wall or droping it from waist height directly onto it's LED face. We've had 
some casualties at the beginning, but are having much better results. We also 
have had several suggestions to add a lead to the unit so people can hang it 
around their necks or clip it to their waist. the unit is very lightweight 
because of its flexible ribbon, unlike the old types of tape measures. We did 
some modifications on being able to clip in several important internal 
components, so that we can fill spaces with various silicone and absorbing 
materials, looked at the casing's internal structure so that we can machine 
aluminum/metallic versions without it suffering dents and bumps, and have 
looked at creating a resin bumper around for those who tend to manhandle their 
devices.

Let's continue this conversation off list, as I would like to ask you a few 
more woodwork related questions.

have a great day 





> On 6 Sep 2018, at 4:33 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Yuma,
>  
> As I mentioned I do woodworking which means I do anything from carpentry like 
> I am currently building a little addition on the side of my house for storage 
> to making displays for my retail store to more fine woodworking projects like 
> furniture, fancy cutting boards etc.
> I have two main measuring devices I use to measure my workpieces and set up 
> my machines like table saw, router, drill press etc.:
>  
> 1. The Clickrule which is a mechanical device that consists of a main unit 
> available in metric or imperial, accuracy is to the sixteenth of an inch and 
> to the millimeter,, respectively. It is a bit hard to describe, maybe you 
> know it already so for now I will leave it at this.
> 2. The Cobolt talking tape measure from England which can do either imperial 
> or metric at the push of a button, accuracy to the millimeter for metric and 
> sicteenth of an inch for imperial.
>  
> For the most part the sixteenth of an inch accuracy is OK, as you know the 
> millimeter accuracy is about half way between that of a 1/16 to that of a 
> 1/32 so better than 1/16 but not quite 1/32.
> In most woodworking projects you can get away with being off by a sixteenth 
> of an inch, if you build drawers you don’t want it to be more than that, 
> though, and sometimes it’s nice to have that extra accuracy, for example, if 
> I want to drill a hole or use a router to route a resess that is of a certain 
> depth etc.
>  
> One requirement I and any woodworker has and which is very important is 
> ruggedness. The Cobalt talking tape measure is pretty good, it costs I think 
> about 55 or 60 british pounds and I am on my second one; things drop or get 
> bumped in a woodworking shop so it needs to be able to take an occasional 
> drop etc.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Macaron wins the Australian Dyson award
>  
> Hi Sieghard,
>  
> Yes, it's the smart tape measure. We've so far increased the precision so 
> worse case offset is within 1 mm. We're currently looking for higher 
> resolution machines to CNC the internals, and adding some machine learning to 
> fit individual tolerances for each unit so that we can increase accuracy over 
> time to sub milllimeter precision. This will require sending data from the 
> hardware to the app to our server on specific states, such as when idle or 
> putting the app into background mode. The empirical to metric conversions are 
> already there to 1/16th of an inch. 1/32 is something we are setting as a 
> goal for the sake of being cool, but most of the initial testers have not 
> expressed the necessity to do so. Can you give me some scenarios where .78 mm 
> is required?
>  
> A++
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 6 Sep 2018, at 1:28 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> Is this a talking tape measure? Sorry, I didn’t have time yet to look at any 
> of the links, but I’m a woodworker and always on the lookout for cool devices 
> especially if they allow me to measure accurately down to the mi

Re: Macaron wins the Australian Dyson award

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Sieghard,

Yes, it's the smart tape measure. We've so far increased the precision so worse 
case offset is within 1 mm. We're currently looking for higher resolution 
machines to CNC the internals, and adding some machine learning to fit 
individual tolerances for each unit so that we can increase accuracy over time 
to sub milllimeter precision. This will require sending data from the hardware 
to the app to our server on specific states, such as when idle or putting the 
app into background mode. The empirical to metric conversions are already there 
to 1/16th of an inch. 1/32 is something we are setting as a goal for the sake 
of being cool, but most of the initial testers have not expressed the necessity 
to do so. Can you give me some scenarios where .78 mm is required?

A++







> On 6 Sep 2018, at 1:28 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Is this a talking tape measure? Sorry, I didn’t have time yet to look at any 
> of the links, but I’m a woodworker and always on the lookout for cool devices 
> especially if they allow me to measure accurately down to the millimeter or 
> when it comes to the imperial system at least to the sixteenth of an inch, 
> down to 1/32 would be even better.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 11:41 AM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Macaron wins the Australian Dyson award
>  
> Hi everyone,
>  
> Yuma from oseyeris here. Before I head off to see 5 astrophysics phds from my 
> uni to discuss everything about space, stars galaxies and of course, Astreos, 
> I wanted to give y'all a heads-up on something else.
>  
> As we are a hardware/software for (currently for mac/IOS) crew that tackles 
> all sorts of things that tends to complicate our lives as blind individuals 
> who either have active lifestyles, go to uni, want to create or do things 
> sighted people do, we have been awarded the prestigious Dyson award for the 
> national competition in Australia for our Macaron, the universal access smart 
> tape measure.
>  
> i wish I could send everyone a unit so you can feel it in your hands, play 
> with the magnets that attach things together and make the process of 
> measuring an amazing one, play with the app, etc. And I wish you could 
> compare it with some previous prototypes we worked on just to see how cool it 
> is now, but for the moment I invite you to have a read at the process and the 
> journey in getting there. link is below:
>  
> https://www.oseyeris.com/post/macaron-wins-australian-national-james-dyson-award-led-by-qut-and-uq-students
>  
> <https://www.oseyeris.com/post/macaron-wins-australian-national-james-dyson-award-led-by-qut-and-uq-students>
>  
> We're being featured everywhere here down South, here are some links:
>  
> https://www.itwire.com/development/84333-james-dyson-award-s-australian-winner-measures-up-successfully,-as-do-two-great-runners-up.html
>  
> <https://www.itwire.com/development/84333-james-dyson-award-s-australian-winner-measures-up-successfully,-as-do-two-great-runners-up.html>
>  
> https://newatlas.com/macaron-measuring-tape/56213/ 
> <https://newatlas.com/macaron-measuring-tape/56213/>
>  
>  
> And here's a radio appearance during rush hour from 4RBC:
>  
> https://www.4bc.com.au/podcast/qut-team-wins-james-dyson-award/ 
> <https://www.4bc.com.au/podcast/qut-team-wins-james-dyson-award/>
>  
> Just wanted to share the excitement we have within our team for this, and I 
> would like to invite you to Like our Facebook page below to keep up with what 
> we have coming through, including an "efficiently accessible" Trello desktop 
> app, more 3D tutorial podcasts with a better format, a free music sampling 
> and mixing tool, and much more.
>  
> https://www.facebook.com/OSeyerisVIP/ <https://www.facebook.com/OSeyerisVIP/>
>  
>  
> Keep your ears peeled for the next update of Astreos due within days.
>  
> Have a great day y'all 
>  
>  
>  
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Macaron wins the Australian Dyson award

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi everyone,

Yuma from oseyeris here. Before I head off to see 5 astrophysics phds from my 
uni to discuss everything about space, stars galaxies and of course, Astreos, I 
wanted to give y'all a heads-up on something else.

As we are a hardware/software for (currently for mac/IOS) crew that tackles all 
sorts of things that tends to complicate our lives as blind individuals who 
either have active lifestyles, go to uni, want to create or do things sighted 
people do, we have been awarded the prestigious Dyson award for the national 
competition in Australia for our Macaron, the universal access smart tape 
measure.

i wish I could send everyone a unit so you can feel it in your hands, play with 
the magnets that attach things together and make the process of measuring an 
amazing one, play with the app, etc. And I wish you could compare it with some 
previous prototypes we worked on just to see how cool it is now, but for the 
moment I invite you to have a read at the process and the journey in getting 
there. link is below:

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/macaron-wins-australian-national-james-dyson-award-led-by-qut-and-uq-students
 


We're being featured everywhere here down South, here are some links:

https://www.itwire.com/development/84333-james-dyson-award-s-australian-winner-measures-up-successfully,-as-do-two-great-runners-up.html
 


https://newatlas.com/macaron-measuring-tape/56213/ 



And here's a radio appearance during rush hour from 4RBC:

https://www.4bc.com.au/podcast/qut-team-wins-james-dyson-award/ 


Just wanted to share the excitement we have within our team for this, and I 
would like to invite you to Like our Facebook page below to keep up with what 
we have coming through, including an "efficiently accessible" Trello desktop 
app, more 3D tutorial podcasts with a better format, a free music sampling and 
mixing tool, and much more.

https://www.facebook.com/OSeyerisVIP/ 


Keep your ears peeled for the next update of Astreos due within days.

Have a great day y'all 



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A little update on Astreos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to give y'all a little update on what's happening with Astreos.

Thanks to the beta testers, we've identified a bunch of issues, mainly 
pertaining to iphone 5s and 6 users, which we are addressing now and fixing, as 
well as putting hundreds of megabytes of content about every object in the sky. 
I have personally looked over assembling every satellite and mission launches 
to date, which totals 8800, and made sure relevant information, outside of 
location in the sky, is accessible.

I am seeing the Astrophysics faculty in a few days to discuss what a real 
Astronomer would consider critical information, and useful tools for their 
studies, to make sure we get the best experience for the app.

Considering that we also have a sighted beta tester base, we are changing some 
controls to make the experience more of a sandbox universe one, where you can 
zoom at intervals between all locations to adjust either sight or sound levels 
when approaching objects in the skies.

There are a bunch of other things I am working on, but do expect an update 
pretty soon, with all the info on objects available through VO.

Have a great day y'all


A++



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Re: A reply from the developerFw: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Jessica,

You can follow the link below to register for the test flight. I see you have 
an iPad. If you can still see a little bit, get ready for a light show :)

>>> 
>>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts 
>>> <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts><https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts 
>>> <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts>>
>>> 

have a great day 




> On 15 Aug 2018, at 11:29 pm, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I want to test this.
> 
> How can I contact the developers?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jessica
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 1:17 AM, Jewel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I forwarded the original post re Astrios to a star-struck friend of mine, as 
>> I did not knowif he was 
>> on this list.  I think that, perhaps, he is not.
>> I have just received a reply from him saying that it was the coolest thing 
>> ever, and he loaded  it 
>> without any problems.
>> 
>> --
>> From: "Dave Allen" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:52 PM
>> To: "'Jewel'" 
>> Subject: RE: A reply from the developerFw: Introducing Astreos: universal 
>> access to the cosmos
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I got it going today without any issue.
>> 
>> It's the coolest thing I've found since the money reader.
>> 
>> It is necessary to pay attention to grab any updates that come out, because 
>> test versions have a 
>> shorter life than hopefully we do, *lol*
>> 
>> Each beta version only lives for 90 days max, but it's fun, and the price 
>> can't be beaten with a 
>> stick!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jewel [mailto:jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2018 1:30 p.m.
>> To: Dave Allen
>> Subject: A reply from the developerFw: Introducing Astreos: universal access 
>> to the cosmos
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> From: "Yuma Decius" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 4:05 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos
>> 
>> Hi harry,
>> 
>> Sorry for the experience you had when it first crashed. We are working now 
>> to fix this ASAP.
>> 
>> Yes, you start by hearing one of NASA's launch sequences and you are in a 
>> spaceship looking at the
>> stars. I've had another comment about the volume not being loud enough. It 
>> was so that you can
>> experience the app on the headphones, but speaker volume is not loud enough. 
>> This will be fixed
>> within the next coming days with a volume slider. For now though, if you put 
>> your headhones on, you
>> will hear everything clearly. Move the phone around and you will hear all 
>> the constellations exactly
>> where they are meant to be in the sky.
>> 
>> For the controls, they are actually mentioned in the test flight app along 
>> with bug fixes and
>> features, but I will list the controls here:
>> 
>> two finger swipe
>> Up for planets
>> left for manmade satellites
>> right for moons
>> down for constellations
>> 
>> 
>> When you selected an object, you will feel a tic from the phone. The faster 
>> the tick, the closer you
>> are from the object you are looking for, as you move and orient the phone 
>> around in a spherical
>> space.
>> 
>> Once you hear Leah anouncing the name of the object, do a pinch out gesture 
>> to focus on the object.
>> 
>> Pinch in to zoom back out to the space ship.
>> 
>> If you have a bit of sight left, when zoomed in, you can orbit around the 
>> object by dragging your
>> finger around.
>> 
>> As I mentioned in the audio demo, We haven't exposed the information for all 
>> the objects yet, as I
>> am working on making the voice completely filtered with echo and reverb.
>> 
>> Finally, another feature is using your voice. Double tap on the screen, and 
>> Leah will say "yes", at
>> which point you can say things like "where's Mars" or "search for Neptune" 
>> etc.
>> 
>> Please let me know if you have issues and I'll get back to you ASAP.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 12:33 am, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have downloaded the beta on my iPhone 7 plus running iOS 11.4.1 and on my 
>>> 2018 ipad running ios
>

Re: Astreos: GMT location bug

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Mitch,

It's still on beta so we go through test flight distributions to collect crash 
logs and other runtime related processes, before uploading it to the appstore.

I've forwarded your email to our internal mail. you should receive an invite 
soon.

Have a great day



> On 15 Aug 2018, at 10:47 pm, mich verrier  wrote:
> 
> Hi I am happy you are fixing all of these bugs. As a Canadion I looked for 
> this app in the canadion app stor and can't find it. I would like to try this 
> app out and am wondering where those of us who live in Canada can get this 
> app to try it? Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario 
> Canada.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
> Decaux
> Sent: August 15, 2018 8:44 AM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Astreos: GMT location bug
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Just wanted to give a heads-up that we found a bug that jorients the objects 
> improperly when users are located in negative GMT time zones.
> 
> We're fixing this up, along with a few others which I will list here for now, 
> so that you can compare and know that we're working on them:
> -Volume is not high enough on speakers. A gesture for volume up/down will be 
> added -visually, on smaller phones, some information is cropped out -Some 
> prefer a single screen touch instead of pinch zooming. We agreed that a 
> double tap is better for zooming in, as some had to contort themselves in 
> weird positions when an object was straight up above. Hilarious and. funny 
> yes, but the goal of the app is to provide information quickly :) -Some 
> sounds disappear when zooming back from constellations
> 
> ALongside the above, we're going to expose all of the information which is 
> visually available using 3D audio for voice over.
> -Many more features to come
> 
> have a great day y'all 
> 
> 
> 
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Astreos: GMT location bug

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to give a heads-up that we found a bug that jorients the objects 
improperly when users are located in negative GMT time zones.

We're fixing this up, along with a few others which I will list here for now, 
so that you can compare and know that we're working on them:
-Volume is not high enough on speakers. A gesture for volume up/down will be 
added
-visually, on smaller phones, some information is cropped out
-Some prefer a single screen touch instead of pinch zooming. We agreed that a 
double tap is better for zooming in, as some had to contort themselves in weird 
positions when an object was straight up above. Hilarious and. funny yes, but 
the goal of the app is to provide information quickly :)
-Some sounds disappear when zooming back from constellations

ALongside the above, we're going to expose all of the information which is 
visually available using 3D audio for voice over.
-Many more features to come

have a great day y'all 
 

 

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Re: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Again Donna,

We have tested the app at a school for visually impaired students here in 
Brisbane, and the reactions were great, some hilarious and very cute. We will 
be going around a few other schools and capture some videos of the reactions 
too.

Hopefully, this app will help bring inclusion to the STEM subjects at schools 
and educational facilities, as many of us do have an interest in the sciences, 
the stars and physics, and can greatly benefit from it.

In any case, your email subscription has been received. You should get the 
invite next morning Brisbane time.

have a great day 



> On 15 Aug 2018, at 1:50 am, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am very interested in beta testing the app. This app sounds interesting. My 
> 8 year old, who is legally blind, is very interested in astronomy. 
> 
> Donna 
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> A quick introduction of myself.
>>> 
>>> I am a blind software engineer, studying mahematics at UQ in Brisbane, 
>>> Australia.
>>> 
>>> I am also a passionate sci-fi, space, physics and astronomy fan. I am not 
>>> partially sighted, I am stone cold blind. But I wasn't always like that. I 
>>> still remember summer nights when the sky was clear enough to see the Milky 
>>> Way, the planets through the lens of a telescope, and the first images of 
>>> constellations with their beautiful nebulas came out.
>>> 
>>> So I decided to write an app that allows me, blind, to find the exact 
>>> position of all these objects in the sky using 2 sensory dimensions, with 
>>> an attention to those who are partially sighted too, wherever I am located 
>>> on earth. if I look for the sun, the phone will orient me to its exact 
>>> location.
>>> 
>>> Astreos is the concatenation of Astrius, god of dusk, and Eos, goddess of 
>>> dawn. 
>>> 
>>> As the app is a complete 6 degree of freedom experience to find planets, 
>>> moons, manmade satellites and fragments, comets, asteroids, near earth 
>>> objects, constellations, major stars and find information about them all, I 
>>> thought it appropriate to put both gods of the sky in the same name.
>>> 
>>> This app uses connections to NASA's APIs, including the Horizons system 
>>> which follows in mission critical precision all objects within the confines 
>>> of the solar system, and updates itself automatically for the more than 
>>> 118000 stars which are visible to the naked eye, 22 other objects, 
>>> including far away galaxies, their names, categories, how they look, what 
>>> chemical elements or spectrum they have, super novas, and much more, 
>>> through the largest astronomical database, the Vizier catalogue.
>>> 
>>> The app is still in beta and I and my team are working hard to put more and 
>>> more content to the app, but more importantly, finding new ways to allow 
>>> those of us who are blind to access such information, and really have a 
>>> sense of where all of this is in the sky.
>>> 
>>> My personal experience for this has been to better understand where a lot 
>>> of stars remain almost static, how some constellations are named and why, 
>>> when they apear in the sky at what time, using my exact location. I spend a 
>>> lot of time reflecting on how to make this magic better using either 
>>> visual, sound, touch or voice.
>>> 
>>> You can listen to the frequencies coming out of every planet, and get a 3D 
>>> audio experience of major stars in the 89 constellations interpreted as 
>>> chimes, with higher pitches representing newborn stars, and clangy metallic 
>>> chimes those older stars which are cooling down. Novas are thunder rolls 
>>> coursing through the 3D space, and i am thinking of other ways to represent 
>>> those stars and their properties.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The official video will be coming out soon, but here's a quick demo audio 
>>> of me playing around with it:
>>> 
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you are interested in testing the beta, I invite you to leave me your 
>>> email at the following link: (don't expect it to be completely stable yet 
>>> but it works fine on devices such as iPads and iPhones down to the 6 
>>> without issues).
>>> 
&g

Re: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Donna,

You can register your email for the beta through the following link:

>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts>
>> 

if you have any issues, please let me know. Just be aware that right now, the 
app works best with devices starting on a 6s, but will very soon have it 
working on devices down to 5s.


Have a great day 



> On 15 Aug 2018, at 1:50 am, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am very interested in beta testing the app. This app sounds interesting. My 
> 8 year old, who is legally blind, is very interested in astronomy. 
> 
> Donna 
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> A quick introduction of myself.
>>> 
>>> I am a blind software engineer, studying mahematics at UQ in Brisbane, 
>>> Australia.
>>> 
>>> I am also a passionate sci-fi, space, physics and astronomy fan. I am not 
>>> partially sighted, I am stone cold blind. But I wasn't always like that. I 
>>> still remember summer nights when the sky was clear enough to see the Milky 
>>> Way, the planets through the lens of a telescope, and the first images of 
>>> constellations with their beautiful nebulas came out.
>>> 
>>> So I decided to write an app that allows me, blind, to find the exact 
>>> position of all these objects in the sky using 2 sensory dimensions, with 
>>> an attention to those who are partially sighted too, wherever I am located 
>>> on earth. if I look for the sun, the phone will orient me to its exact 
>>> location.
>>> 
>>> Astreos is the concatenation of Astrius, god of dusk, and Eos, goddess of 
>>> dawn. 
>>> 
>>> As the app is a complete 6 degree of freedom experience to find planets, 
>>> moons, manmade satellites and fragments, comets, asteroids, near earth 
>>> objects, constellations, major stars and find information about them all, I 
>>> thought it appropriate to put both gods of the sky in the same name.
>>> 
>>> This app uses connections to NASA's APIs, including the Horizons system 
>>> which follows in mission critical precision all objects within the confines 
>>> of the solar system, and updates itself automatically for the more than 
>>> 118000 stars which are visible to the naked eye, 22 other objects, 
>>> including far away galaxies, their names, categories, how they look, what 
>>> chemical elements or spectrum they have, super novas, and much more, 
>>> through the largest astronomical database, the Vizier catalogue.
>>> 
>>> The app is still in beta and I and my team are working hard to put more and 
>>> more content to the app, but more importantly, finding new ways to allow 
>>> those of us who are blind to access such information, and really have a 
>>> sense of where all of this is in the sky.
>>> 
>>> My personal experience for this has been to better understand where a lot 
>>> of stars remain almost static, how some constellations are named and why, 
>>> when they apear in the sky at what time, using my exact location. I spend a 
>>> lot of time reflecting on how to make this magic better using either 
>>> visual, sound, touch or voice.
>>> 
>>> You can listen to the frequencies coming out of every planet, and get a 3D 
>>> audio experience of major stars in the 89 constellations interpreted as 
>>> chimes, with higher pitches representing newborn stars, and clangy metallic 
>>> chimes those older stars which are cooling down. Novas are thunder rolls 
>>> coursing through the 3D space, and i am thinking of other ways to represent 
>>> those stars and their properties.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The official video will be coming out soon, but here's a quick demo audio 
>>> of me playing around with it:
>>> 
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you are interested in testing the beta, I invite you to leave me your 
>>> email at the following link: (don't expect it to be completely stable yet 
>>> but it works fine on devices such as iPads and iPhones down to the 6 
>>> without issues).
>>> 
>>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since this is a beta, I am interested in getting your feedback, ideas and 
>>> re

Re: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi harry,

Sorry for the experience you had when it first crashed. We are working now to 
fix this ASAP.

Yes, you start by hearing one of NASA's launch sequences and you are in a 
spaceship looking at the stars. I've had another comment about the volume not 
being loud enough. It was so that you can experience the app on the headphones, 
but speaker volume is not loud enough. This will be fixed within the next 
coming days with a volume slider. For now though, if you put your headhones on, 
you will hear everything clearly. Move the phone around and you will hear all 
the constellations exactly where they are meant to be in the sky.

For the controls, they are actually mentioned in the test flight app along with 
bug fixes and features, but I will list the controls here:

two finger swipe 
Up for planets
left for manmade satellites
right for moons
down for constellations


When you selected an object, you will feel a tic from the phone. The faster the 
tick, the closer you are from the object you are looking for, as you move and 
orient the phone around in a spherical space.

Once you hear Leah anouncing the name of the object, do a pinch out gesture to 
focus on the object.

Pinch in to zoom back out to the space ship.

If you have a bit of sight left, when zoomed in, you can orbit around the 
object by dragging your finger around.

As I mentioned in the audio demo, We haven't exposed the information for all 
the objects yet, as I am working on making the voice completely filtered with 
echo and reverb.

Finally, another feature is using your voice. Double tap on the screen, and 
Leah will say "yes", at which point you can say things like "where's Mars" or 
"search for Neptune" etc.

Please let me know if you have issues and I'll get back to you ASAP.



> On 15 Aug 2018, at 12:33 am, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have downloaded the beta on my iPhone 7 plus running iOS 11.4.1 and on my 
> 2018 ipad running ios 12 latest beta. The app opened on both devices, i gave 
> it permissions to access location and microphone. The app then crashed back 
> to home screen on both devices. When i reopened the app, there was a ten 
> second pause and then i heard some Cape Canaveral-like commentary which was 
> almost inaudible and a slightly louder voice naming constellations as i moved 
> my device. Even on full volume, itwas a struggle to hear much. No buttons or 
> tabs were detected by voiceover, so i had no instructions about what to do 
> and i have no idea whati can do via the microphone (as the app asked to use 
> my device microphone for voice commands, i assume tgere must be some). 
> How do i get started?
> Thanks
> Harry in UK
> 
>> On 14 Aug 2018, at 11:27, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rob,
>> 
>> Just wanted to make sure you got the invite? It seems so far with our tests, 
>> the app has some issues with iphone 5s and 6 as the CPU architecture is 
>> older on these devices. Hopefully you have something more recent.
>> 
>> Have a great day
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Aug 2018, at 5:40 am, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OOoo!...   wonderful, so very wonderful, if it can really do all that. I 
>>> kinda borrowed a particularly good 1st year degree level 
>>> course notes in astro-physics years ago and still re-read it.  Never saw 
>>> well enough to see stars, just sun and moon.  Not even that 
>>> now mind.
>>> 
>>> But yes, this would be fascinating to try, will deal with that in a bit.
>>> 
>>> What version of iOws will it work down to?  I am Not a slavish follower of 
>>> versions while the one I have works with what I have. 
>>> There's so many stories of new downloads crippling perfectly good old ones.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks and all the best with it,  BobH.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Yuma Decaux" 
>>> To: 
>>> Cc: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 8:15 PM
>>> Subject: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> A quick introduction of myself.
>>> 
>>> I am a blind software engineer, studying mahematics at UQ in Brisbane, 
>>> Australia.
>>> 
>>> I am also a passionate sci-fi, space, physics and astronomy fan. I am not 
>>> partially sighted, I am stone cold blind. But I wasn't 
>>> always like that. I still remember summer nights when the sky was clear 
>>> enough to see the Milky Way, the planets through the lens of 
>>> a telescope, and the first images of constellations with their beautiful 
>>> nebulas ca

Re: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Rob,

Just wanted to make sure you got the invite? It seems so far with our tests, 
the app has some issues with iphone 5s and 6 as the CPU architecture is older 
on these devices. Hopefully you have something more recent.

Have a great day


> On 13 Aug 2018, at 5:40 am, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> OOoo!...   wonderful, so very wonderful, if it can really do all that. I 
> kinda borrowed a particularly good 1st year degree level 
> course notes in astro-physics years ago and still re-read it.  Never saw well 
> enough to see stars, just sun and moon.  Not even that 
> now mind.
> 
> But yes, this would be fascinating to try, will deal with that in a bit.
> 
> What version of iOws will it work down to?  I am Not a slavish follower of 
> versions while the one I have works with what I have. 
> There's so many stories of new downloads crippling perfectly good old ones.
> 
> Many thanks and all the best with it,  BobH.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Yuma Decaux" 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 8:15 PM
> Subject: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> A quick introduction of myself.
> 
> I am a blind software engineer, studying mahematics at UQ in Brisbane, 
> Australia.
> 
> I am also a passionate sci-fi, space, physics and astronomy fan. I am not 
> partially sighted, I am stone cold blind. But I wasn't 
> always like that. I still remember summer nights when the sky was clear 
> enough to see the Milky Way, the planets through the lens of 
> a telescope, and the first images of constellations with their beautiful 
> nebulas came out.
> 
> So I decided to write an app that allows me, blind, to find the exact 
> position of all these objects in the sky using 2 sensory 
> dimensions, with an attention to those who are partially sighted too, 
> wherever I am located on earth. if I look for the sun, the 
> phone will orient me to its exact location.
> 
> Astreos is the concatenation of Astrius, god of dusk, and Eos, goddess of 
> dawn.
> 
> As the app is a complete 6 degree of freedom experience to find planets, 
> moons, manmade satellites and fragments, comets, asteroids, 
> near earth objects, constellations, major stars and find information about 
> them all, I thought it appropriate to put both gods of 
> the sky in the same name.
> 
> This app uses connections to NASA's APIs, including the Horizons system which 
> follows in mission critical precision all objects 
> within the confines of the solar system, and updates itself automatically for 
> the more than 118000 stars which are visible to the 
> naked eye, 22 other objects, including far away galaxies, their names, 
> categories, how they look, what chemical elements or 
> spectrum they have, super novas, and much more, through the largest 
> astronomical database, the Vizier catalogue.
> 
> The app is still in beta and I and my team are working hard to put more and 
> more content to the app, but more importantly, finding 
> new ways to allow those of us who are blind to access such information, and 
> really have a sense of where all of this is in the sky.
> 
> My personal experience for this has been to better understand where a lot of 
> stars remain almost static, how some constellations are 
> named and why, when they apear in the sky at what time, using my exact 
> location. I spend a lot of time reflecting on how to make 
> this magic better using either visual, sound, touch or voice.
> 
> You can listen to the frequencies coming out of every planet, and get a 3D 
> audio experience of major stars in the 89 constellations 
> interpreted as chimes, with higher pitches representing newborn stars, and 
> clangy metallic chimes those older stars which are 
> cooling down. Novas are thunder rolls coursing through the 3D space, and i am 
> thinking of other ways to represent those stars and 
> their properties.
> 
> 
> The official video will be coming out soon, but here's a quick demo audio of 
> me playing around with it:
> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
>>  
>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0>
>> 
> 
> 
> If you are interested in testing the beta, I invite you to leave me your 
> email at the following link: (don't expect it to be 
> completely stable yet but it works fine on devices such as iPads and iPhones 
> down to the 6 without issues).
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts>
> 
> 
> Since this is a beta, I am interested in getting your feedback, ideas an

Re: Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Sandy,

Thank you for such kind words. it gives me a big boost to continue and add 
features to Astreos :)

I didn't see your email in the list on my backend. Were you able to send the 
contact form? you can alternatively send me an email directly so I can add you.

Also, just to check, what iphone version do you have?


Have a great day 



> On 13 Aug 2018, at 8:18 pm, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> yuma,
> Your app sounds absolutely gorgeous! your presentation of it was absolutely 
> excellent! I shall try and download the beta version a little later today. I 
> think, we are only just beginning to explore the possibilities 3-D sound 
> skates. thanks for creating something so beautiful and immersive.
> 
> from Sandy, in Ireland.
> 
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
> On 12 Aug 2018, at 20:15, Yuma Decaux  <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> A quick introduction of myself.
>> 
>> I am a blind software engineer, studying mahematics at UQ in Brisbane, 
>> Australia.
>> 
>> I am also a passionate sci-fi, space, physics and astronomy fan. I am not 
>> partially sighted, I am stone cold blind. But I wasn't always like that. I 
>> still remember summer nights when the sky was clear enough to see the Milky 
>> Way, the planets through the lens of a telescope, and the first images of 
>> constellations with their beautiful nebulas came out.
>> 
>> So I decided to write an app that allows me, blind, to find the exact 
>> position of all these objects in the sky using 2 sensory dimensions, with an 
>> attention to those who are partially sighted too, wherever I am located on 
>> earth. if I look for the sun, the phone will orient me to its exact location.
>> 
>> Astreos is the concatenation of Astrius, god of dusk, and Eos, goddess of 
>> dawn. 
>> 
>> As the app is a complete 6 degree of freedom experience to find planets, 
>> moons, manmade satellites and fragments, comets, asteroids, near earth 
>> objects, constellations, major stars and find information about them all, I 
>> thought it appropriate to put both gods of the sky in the same name.
>> 
>> This app uses connections to NASA's APIs, including the Horizons system 
>> which follows in mission critical precision all objects within the confines 
>> of the solar system, and updates itself automatically for the more than 
>> 118000 stars which are visible to the naked eye, 22 other objects, 
>> including far away galaxies, their names, categories, how they look, what 
>> chemical elements or spectrum they have, super novas, and much more, through 
>> the largest astronomical database, the Vizier catalogue.
>> 
>> The app is still in beta and I and my team are working hard to put more and 
>> more content to the app, but more importantly, finding new ways to allow 
>> those of us who are blind to access such information, and really have a 
>> sense of where all of this is in the sky.
>> 
>> My personal experience for this has been to better understand where a lot of 
>> stars remain almost static, how some constellations are named and why, when 
>> they apear in the sky at what time, using my exact location. I spend a lot 
>> of time reflecting on how to make this magic better using either visual, 
>> sound, touch or voice.
>> 
>> You can listen to the frequencies coming out of every planet, and get a 3D 
>> audio experience of major stars in the 89 constellations interpreted as 
>> chimes, with higher pitches representing newborn stars, and clangy metallic 
>> chimes those older stars which are cooling down. Novas are thunder rolls 
>> coursing through the 3D space, and i am thinking of other ways to represent 
>> those stars and their properties.
>> 
>> 
>> The official video will be coming out soon, but here's a quick demo audio of 
>> me playing around with it:
>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
>>>  
>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you are interested in testing the beta, I invite you to leave me your 
>> email at the following link: (don't expect it to be completely stable yet 
>> but it works fine on devices such as iPads and iPhones down to the 6 without 
>> issues).
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts>
>> 
>> 
>> Since this is a beta, I am interested in getting your feedback, ideas and 
>> requests,

Introducing Astreos: universal access to the cosmos

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

A quick introduction of myself.

I am a blind software engineer, studying mahematics at UQ in Brisbane, 
Australia.

I am also a passionate sci-fi, space, physics and astronomy fan. I am not 
partially sighted, I am stone cold blind. But I wasn't always like that. I 
still remember summer nights when the sky was clear enough to see the Milky 
Way, the planets through the lens of a telescope, and the first images of 
constellations with their beautiful nebulas came out.

So I decided to write an app that allows me, blind, to find the exact position 
of all these objects in the sky using 2 sensory dimensions, with an attention 
to those who are partially sighted too, wherever I am located on earth. if I 
look for the sun, the phone will orient me to its exact location.

Astreos is the concatenation of Astrius, god of dusk, and Eos, goddess of dawn. 

As the app is a complete 6 degree of freedom experience to find planets, moons, 
manmade satellites and fragments, comets, asteroids, near earth objects, 
constellations, major stars and find information about them all, I thought it 
appropriate to put both gods of the sky in the same name.

This app uses connections to NASA's APIs, including the Horizons system which 
follows in mission critical precision all objects within the confines of the 
solar system, and updates itself automatically for the more than 118000 stars 
which are visible to the naked eye, 22 other objects, including far away 
galaxies, their names, categories, how they look, what chemical elements or 
spectrum they have, super novas, and much more, through the largest 
astronomical database, the Vizier catalogue.

The app is still in beta and I and my team are working hard to put more and 
more content to the app, but more importantly, finding new ways to allow those 
of us who are blind to access such information, and really have a sense of 
where all of this is in the sky.

My personal experience for this has been to better understand where a lot of 
stars remain almost static, how some constellations are named and why, when 
they apear in the sky at what time, using my exact location. I spend a lot of 
time reflecting on how to make this magic better using either visual, sound, 
touch or voice.

You can listen to the frequencies coming out of every planet, and get a 3D 
audio experience of major stars in the 89 constellations interpreted as chimes, 
with higher pitches representing newborn stars, and clangy metallic chimes 
those older stars which are cooling down. Novas are thunder rolls coursing 
through the 3D space, and i am thinking of other ways to represent those stars 
and their properties.


The official video will be coming out soon, but here's a quick demo audio of me 
playing around with it:

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0
>  
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj184tgvzr481p8/Input%20Device%20Recording%2020180812%200638.mp3?dl=0>
> 


If you are interested in testing the beta, I invite you to leave me your email 
at the following link: (don't expect it to be completely stable yet but it 
works fine on devices such as iPads and iPhones down to the 6 without issues).

https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts <https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts>


Since this is a beta, I am interested in getting your feedback, ideas and 
requests, and I will do my best to put them in the app.

have a great week y'all,

Yuma Antoine Decaux
OSS (Operating System Stack)
Oseyeris
www.oseyeris.com <http://www.oseyeris.com/>
Skype: Shainobi1 
twitter: @triple7
linkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuma-decaux-2756284/

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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi All,

Just to wrap this around in a positive note, please do remember my name as I 
don't use this gmail account for any official marketing or other emails. I stay 
quite informal about things when in macvisionaries or viphone, meaning that I 
don't find it really necessarry to paste a full signature etc, but provide just 
the essential. 

I do agree that I could have added a few more paragraphs. Perhaps the engineer 
in me just keeps it basic, and the enthusiast in me thinks everyone will get 
the sincerity of my tone from the get go.

In any case, bygones are bygones and I'm happy to get the replies and the email 
contacts to start distributing the beta for improving the experience.

I will write a second email in regards to the improvements and some background 
on the app.





> On 12 Aug 2018, at 1:56 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello Yuma,
> 
> I apologize if you perceived my post as negative, but I am far from new on 
> this list having been a part of it for about 8 or 9 years. I am however not a 
> Mac user so wouldn't know you from the macvisionaries list. Yes, I could have 
> Googled Oseyeris, but in this case I didn't and I just pointed out what to me 
> were a few red flags, e.g. not a little bit more of an explanation or that 
> apart from in your email address no name was even mentioned.
> As Mark pointed out, spam isn't new on this list and while he does a great 
> job getting rid of anything which does make it through, it does happen.
> Also, if you were on some other lists like Jaws or Win10 which you are 
> probably not a member of for the same reasons why I'm not on any Mac lists, 
> you would know that I am typically known as a fairly experienced, objective 
> and moderate list member who often tries to be the voice of reason when posts 
> become heated and in the case of Viphone as somebody who has contributed his 
> share of posts trying to help.
> Having said all that, I hope we can just put this behind us as a 
> misunderstanding, again sorry if the way I phrased my message was rude or 
> dismissive. By the way, having now taken a look at what you do I find it 
> quite interesting and I wish you the best of luck with it.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
> Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: podcast appearance
> 
> Hi sieghard,
> 
> By definition a co founder is someone who founded a startup I'm the blind guy 
> in the duo, and I do all the different software architectures for the team. I 
> also do a podcast series on coding for 3D sound and audio using the swift 
> language and X-code. I'm based in Brisbane, and I think a few users on this 
> list know me, including Cara Quinn and mark.
> 
> I have been a member of macvisionaries since 2010 and this list has greatly 
> helped, especially in terms of mac stuff. 
> 
> If you don't want to click on the link, and first check out what I actually 
> do, including the research to make this app possible, it's your right, but 
> I'll ask you not to start treating or accusing me of some kind of scam or bad 
> intention from the get go, as this is purely an invitation to test out an app 
> that allows blind people like myself to enjoy the skies in a few different 
> and thoughtful ways.
> 
> If you're the new turf boss of this mailing list, good on you. I'm just a 
> veteran here.
> 
> A++
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Aug 2018, at 1:12 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> First of all, you say you are co-founder of " Oseyeris", what exactly is 
>> that, it isn't exactly a word that is descriptive in nature.
>> Also, you say you are passionate about astronomy and physics, but you don't 
>> even start out your message by introducing yourself, you don't end with a 
>> salutation including your name and you are soliciting support for your 
>> Podcast and app without apparently having asked Mark or Cara if it is OK to 
>> do so. 
>> Given how often one is "invited" to do something these days I am certainly 
>> not clicking on your link to fill out a contact form and I hope others are 
>> smart enough not to do so. If you had started with a proper introduction and 
>> a sentence saying that you received permission from the list owner or 
>> moderator to post this I might have felt differently.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
>> Decaux
>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 2:15 AM
>> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com; logic-accessibil...@googlegroups.com
>>

Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Also sieghard,

If you don't have the intuition to click elsewhere from the contact form, 
here's the website at the lab page:

https://www.oseyeris.com/the-lab

The lab page has a lot of info on how I went about working on the star gazing 
app.

I'm just putting this in case people think I'm going to try and extort money 
from them or whatever your assumptions are.

In this page will appear the blog and podcast on the star gazer, as a 
discussion on how it can be made better, what features people would want 
outside those I have thought out with my team, etc.

Cheers




> On 12 Aug 2018, at 1:12 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> First of all, you say you are co-founder of " Oseyeris", what exactly is 
> that, it isn't exactly a word that is descriptive in nature.
> Also, you say you are passionate about astronomy and physics, but you don't 
> even start out your message by introducing yourself, you don't end with a 
> salutation including your name and you are soliciting support for your 
> Podcast and app without apparently having asked Mark or Cara if it is OK to 
> do so. 
> Given how often one is "invited" to do something these days I am certainly 
> not clicking on your link to fill out a contact form and I hope others are 
> smart enough not to do so. If you had started with a proper introduction and 
> a sentence saying that you received permission from the list owner or 
> moderator to post this I might have felt differently.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yuma 
> Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 2:15 AM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com; logic-accessibil...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: podcast appearance
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the 
> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we 
> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D 
> programming for audio, and related technologies.
> 
> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real world, 
> as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
> 
> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
> 
> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already 
> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
> 
> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be 
> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
> 
> 
> Have a great day y'all
> 
> 
> A++
> 
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Re: podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi sieghard,

By definition a co founder is someone who founded a startup I'm the blind guy 
in the duo, and I do all the different software architectures for the team. I 
also do a podcast series on coding for 3D sound and audio using the swift 
language and X-code. I'm based in Brisbane, and I think a few users on this 
list know me, including Cara Quinn and mark.

 I have been a member of macvisionaries since 2010 and this list has greatly 
helped, especially in terms of mac stuff. 

If you don't want to click on the link, and first check out what I actually do, 
including the research to make this app possible, it's your right, but I'll ask 
you not to start treating or accusing me of some kind of scam or bad intention 
from the get go, as this is purely an invitation to test out an app that allows 
blind people like myself to enjoy the skies in a few different and thoughtful 
ways.

If you're the new turf boss of this mailing list, good on you. I'm just a 
veteran here.

A++



> On 12 Aug 2018, at 1:12 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> First of all, you say you are co-founder of " Oseyeris", what exactly is 
> that, it isn't exactly a word that is descriptive in nature.
> Also, you say you are passionate about astronomy and physics, but you don't 
> even start out your message by introducing yourself, you don't end with a 
> salutation including your name and you are soliciting support for your 
> Podcast and app without apparently having asked Mark or Cara if it is OK to 
> do so. 
> Given how often one is "invited" to do something these days I am certainly 
> not clicking on your link to fill out a contact form and I hope others are 
> smart enough not to do so. If you had started with a proper introduction and 
> a sentence saying that you received permission from the list owner or 
> moderator to post this I might have felt differently.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 2:15 AM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com; logic-accessibil...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: podcast appearance
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the 
> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we 
> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D 
> programming for audio, and related technologies.
> 
> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real world, 
> as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
> 
> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
> 
> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already 
> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
> 
> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be 
> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
> 
> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
> 
> 
> Have a great day y'all
> 
> 
> A++
> 
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podcast appearance

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the 
ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we 
can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D 
programming for audio, and related technologies.

I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real world, 
as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.

Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.

Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already 
subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.

I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be 
represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.

https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts


Have a great day y'all


A++


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Re: The best color identifyer that would work on an Iphone 5s

[Yuma Decaux]

I had a question for everyone who participated in this thread: 

Who uses a color identifier frequently? If so, is it part of a function that 
needs checking in numerous lighting conditions? 

Sent from sputnik7 

> On 16/05/2018, at 10:52 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> Taptapsee is as good as any. Color Inspector does well, but they all need 
> good, consistent lighting and should not be entirely trusted as much as a 
> stand alone device.
> I like TapTapSee because it will also identify a pattern.
> Those apps are free.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On May 16, 2018, at 4:50 AM, "ndagosti...@gmail.com"  
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>> The subject says it all.
>>  
>> Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: New color identifier, article from blind bargains

[Yuma Decaux]

I can whip up an app in 24?hours and post it for free on my github. This is how 
easy the tech is

Sent from sputnik7 

> On 15/05/2018, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> APH Color Star Color Identifier can Identify 1,000 Shades, Speak Colors of 
> LED Lights, Identify Patterns
> 
> J.J. Meddaugh May 14, 2018 5:51 PM ET 
> The American Printing House for the Blind has refreshed their talking color 
> identifier with some modern features.
> According to the description, the Color Star "recognizes more than 1,000 
> different color shades, identifies color contrast measurements, recognizes 
> the color of LED lights, perceives the light intensity in the surrounding 
> environment, and recognizes patterns – all with clear spoken voice output."
> The new unit also charges via USB and includes stereo headphones. It's 
> available now for $449 from their online store.
> APH's previous color identifier, the ColorTest II was discontinued in January 
> 2018.
> 
> Source: Color Star
> 
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Invitation to closed testing round for accessible Trello mac app

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi everyone,

As I am one of the directors of my startup, I am required to fulfill daily 
organisational tasks, and have an overview of the entire processes our business 
is going through. This includes a variety of sections such as hardware, 
software, finances, coms, the list goes on. ALl this needs to be centrally 
visible and manageable without going through undreds of text files or dropbox 
folders.

I had looked for various efficient organisational apps such as Jira, Assana, 
trello and MS project but none really have a smooth, fast way of doing things. 
As they are heavily visual, it is hard to get a proper synthesis of what is 
going on, who added what where and what to search for.

So I wrote a wrapper for Trello in swift, and now have a complete suite with an 
interface, currently produced for the mac but that can easily be ported to IOS.

I would like to make a closed invitation for those of you who code in swift to 
test the app, and it’s efficacy in your daily tasks.

So far, it has everything from boards, lists, cards, checklists, checkItems, 
comments, attachments, labels, actions, and works nicely with webhooks through 
apple’s remote push notification service. I’ve also written a backend PHP set 
to manage individual users, tokens and push the right messages to the right 
devices. There are stereo sound cues to alert the user of what is going on, as 
well as new actions being performed by others.

I am currently trying to finish the initial OAuth process as well as getting a 
proper calendar up with NSCollectionView for deadlines so that non coders can 
use this for their everyday task management.

if you have an interest in getting more efficient with your daily organisation 
and have registered a trello account, shoot me an email with your github 
username and I will invite you to the private repo to see if it can be rendered 
more efficient than it currently is.

So far I have a few friends, also blind who are using it, and they are really 
liking the fast access to every object in your team and boards. one is using it 
now for his accelerator program at uni, and the other is using it for his wly 
those ork as a clinical psychologist. A few more blind professionals are also 
using it in both accessibility and education.

I think that we as blind users should have the same level of access to every 
service out there, especially to enhance our productivity. To do this, the 
paradigm has to be seen from the perspective of a screen reader user. Not a 
visual user, and this is why I wrote VITrello.

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Re: 3D audio experience podcast: The comedy show is now available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Ronald,

Thanks for the suggestion. I am testing the app on another person’s computer to 
make sure everything works fine as an archived bundle, and will release the 
demo app. This greatly enhances the 3D audio experience as youtube flattens the 
sound, and you can’t interact with a video. This will give a much deeper 
experience.

Will keep you posted with the link and instructions as soon as my mate gets 
back.

Cheers,



> On 1 Sep 2017, at 10:57 pm, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Yuma,
> 
> Do you have the demos as downloadable files available as well? I personally 
> think the Youtube playing isn't that practical for me.
> 
> Great job. Thanks,
> Ronald
> 
> 
>> Op 30 aug. 2017, om 13:00 heeft Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Here’s I the coding functer again, with a new exciting podcast on making 
>> your own 3D audio experience.
>> 
>> This one is simulating a blind comedy show and shows some more advanced 
>> concepts on audio manipulation and states.
>> 
>> The article is below:
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-6-blind-comedy-club 
>> <https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-6-blind-comedy-club>
>> 
>> And here is the direct youtube link:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTWqp6-7XkjWGHnXb03gfylmPz7UPXYH4 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTWqp6-7XkjWGHnXb03gfylmPz7UPXYH4>
>> 
>> 
>> Again, you can find the demo project in the blog link, and customise it to 
>> your liking to better understand how it all works.
>> 
>> For those who have requested it, I’ve placed the demo sound at the beginning 
>> of the podcast, so you can skip the tutorial part altogether and go straight 
>> for the files.
>> 
>> Enjoy, and have a great week y’all 
>> 
>> 
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3D audio experience podcast: The comedy show is now available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi All,

Here’s I the coding functer again, with a new exciting podcast on making your 
own 3D audio experience.

This one is simulating a blind comedy show and shows some more advanced 
concepts on audio manipulation and states.

The article is below:

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-6-blind-comedy-club 


And here is the direct youtube link:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTWqp6-7XkjWGHnXb03gfylmPz7UPXYH4 



Again, you can find the demo project in the blog link, and customise it to your 
liking to better understand how it all works.

For those who have requested it, I’ve placed the demo sound at the beginning of 
the podcast, so you can skip the tutorial part altogether and go straight for 
the files.

Enjoy, and have a great week y’all 


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3D Audio experience podcast 5: mapping controls is available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi All,

After coming back from a Hackathon and having and HD failure and solving it, 
here is podcast 5. It covers the keyboard command controls, in an eerie 
alternate world where typewriters had screen readers attached to them.

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-5-lets-take-a-trip-back-in-time 


As usual, the example project is available in the link.


Have a great weekend,

 

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3D audio podcast series tutorial 4 is out

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi All,

We've uploaded tutorial 4 of our 3D audio experience series.

This one deals with more advanced audio, including filtering, effects and 
positioning of those effects nodes. You probably never heard Alex talk like 
this, but this is the whole point of the tutorial.

The link is available at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a96w05bK-mM=1=PLTWqp6-7XkjUHXBShNQDuqGygHF5AA3kZ
 


As usual, the article contains the example project file which you can use at 
your own leisure. it will be interesting to see what you guys come up with.

Enjoy :)


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Re: New podcaast series on how to create a 3D game now available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Ronald,

Not a problem. I think we should all be able to access various things taken for 
granted which we don't really have access to, and make it easier to use for 
everyone. That includes for education, entertainment as well as mobility.

You won't need too much technical knowhow if you base yourself on the example 
files. let me know if you hit a hurdle.

Chers,

> On 17/07/2017, at 6:14 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Yuma,
> 
> Thanks very much for doing this! I always wanted to know how this sort of 3d 
> enviroments are created and now I can check it out thanks to you.
> I will try to follow and experience soon enough if I am fitted for this sort 
> of thing, I am not the most technically equipped guy around;)
> 
> best,
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 16 jul. 2017, om 09:08 heeft Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I'm the software dev from OSeyeris, and I'm happy to present you a tutorial 
>> series I have started that will help you create and code your own 3D 
>> binaural experiences using swift, playground and Xcode.
>> 
>> I have tried to broaden the audience as much as possible, from those who 
>> wish to understand code more to those who already have advanced knowledge.
>> 
>> Our podcast series are in youtube video format but the example code for each 
>> tutorial is available on our website.
>> 
>> Here is the link to the intro video where I demonstrate a fully featured 3D 
>> audio game we are working on and hoping to release soon as a set of 
>> applications to play and start creating your own immersive world. We are 
>> also currently beta testing thee engine with a local school for special 
>> needs and the response has been overwhelmingly positive.
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction 
>> <https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction>
>> 
>> If you go through the lab page, this is where all the tutorials and their 
>> associated files and youtube videos will reside.
>> 
>> I will be posting 18 videos in total, starting from the basics and ramping 
>> up progressively to more interesting features such as A.I behavior, 
>> networking for multiplay, audio engine filters and accoustics, direct 
>> recording and playback as well as some SegueWay videos on some coding 
>> concepts to make your code and 3D application more efficient.
>> 
>> Finally, as I have started this series, the format might need some 
>> improvements, so please don't hesitate to contact me and tell me your 
>> thoughts or how you would like the tutorials to go forward.
>> 
>> Also, if you already have some swift knowledge, contact me and maybe we can 
>> work together to complete the platform as it includes many many features, 
>> and is not limited to playing games but has applications in education, audio 
>> editing and virtual audio reality. It can be hosted on OSX, IOS, appleTV and 
>> can also be controlled with a Leap motion infrared controller. I will 
>> release a video very shortly with a demonstration of the Leap motion which 
>> can capture 3D volumetric information of your hands.
>> 
>> Let's do this guys, and have a fantastic end of weekend :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> OSS
>> www.oseyeris.com <http://www.oseyeris.com/>
>> 
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3D audio podcast tutorial 3 now available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi All,

Pacing up with the tutorials, this time I am demonstrating how to make voice 
over positional in 3D using SceneKit, along with some techniques and concepts 
often used with the swift language.

The page is available in the following link.

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-3-making-voice-over-3d-positional 


I will be transcribing all the previous tutorials for those who wish to read 
through rather than listen or use the example files.

Have a great rest of weekend :)

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3D game podcast: tutorial 1 available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi All,

So I'm ramping up the pace a bit, as the intro video included no actual coding.

Here is tutorial 1: the basics on setting up your 3D scene for audio. The link 
is below:

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-1-your-first-game 



The example file is in the linked text before the video. If you are a newbie, I 
suggest you follow the video. But if you know code, then I invite you to 
immediately download the example file and customise it.

Again, I really appreciate any recommendations, what you would like to find 
out, or how to do certain things, so send me a shout on the site's contact page 
or go to our FB page at:
https://www.facebook.com/OSeyeris-737015699780534/ 


The week has started guys, and there's a lot more content coming up :)


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Re: New podcaast series on how to create a 3D game now available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Greg,

That one will come in a later podcast :) Not too far out though, but each of 
these take time as I prepare each scene, the assets, the recording, chop them 
up, upload the example files, etc. But we'll get there quite soon enough :)

Have a great day


> On 17/07/2017, at 5:50 AM, Greg Wocher <gwoc...@gwocher.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Okay how in the world did you get your voiceover to sound like Eloquence? I 
> have never heard this before.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The first intro is just a demo of what is being developed right now. We are 
>> adding a tone generator that targets objects around you and gives you a cue 
>> on orientation and distance of the object, alongside identifying the object 
>> and voice over naming it as you rotate around the world.
>> 
>> The next podcasts are on the site at www.oseyeris.com 
>> <http://www.oseyeris.com/> on the lab page.
>> 
>>> They show you how to setup a playground and make an ambience using SceneKit 
>>> and the second one shows you how to create a moving object that makes 
>>> footsteps in the world.
>> 
>> Like I mentioned it earlier, please do give us some comments so I can better 
>> the experience of the podcast. If you preffer just playing with the provided 
>> scenes I've created, just click on the link to the github repo and download 
>> the scenes.
>> 
>> Enjoy :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17/07/2017, at 12:49 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> is this podcast about how to create a accessible 3d game? or just a game 
>>> that is 3d but not accessible to blind people? from Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Chris Smart
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 10:38 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: New podcaast series on how to create a 3D game now available
>>> 
>>> so are the rest of us. What's your point?
>>> 
>>> At 03:26 AM 7/16/2017, you wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Im blind
>>>> Afik.
>>>> 
>>>> Iבברכה,
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Can you contact me privately please?
>>>> I want to learn to code on swift.
>>>> 
>>>> × ×¤×™×§ סופיר
>>>> חבר ומייסד קבוצת ק.מ.×— - ×›×™ ×“×‘×¨×™×  ×©×¨×•× ×™× 
>>>> ×ž×©×  ×œ×  ×¨×•× ×™×  ×ž×›× ×Ÿ
>>>> 050-5782208
>>>> <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com>>afik.so...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com>
>>>> www.facebook.com/afik.sofir <http://www.facebook.com/afik.sofir>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ‫ב-16 ביולי 2017, בשעה 10:08, ††⠨Yuma Decauxâ © †<â 
>>>>> ¨<mailto:jamy...@gmail.com <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>>jamy...@gmail.comâ 
>>>>> ©> כתב/×”:‬
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm the software dev from OSeyeris, and I'm happy to present you a 
>>>>> tutorial series I have started that will help you create and code your 
>>>>> own 3D binaural experiences using swift, playground and Xcode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have tried to broaden the audience as much as possible, from those who 
>>>>> wish to understand code more to those who already have advanced knowledge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Our podcast series are in youtube video format but the example code for 
>>>>> each tutorial is available on our website.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the link to the intro video where I demonstrate a fully featured 
>>>>> 3D audio game we are working on and hoping to release soon as a set of 
>>>>> applications to play and start creating your own immersive world. We are 
>>>>> also currently beta testing thee engine with a local school for special 
>>>>> needs and the response has been overwhelmingly positive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction 
>>>>> <https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction>>https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction
>>>>>  <https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-p

Re: New podcaast series on how to create a 3D game now available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi,

The first intro is just a demo of what is being developed right now. We are 
adding a tone generator that targets objects around you and gives you a cue on 
orientation and distance of the object, alongside identifying the object and 
voice over naming it as you rotate around the world.

The next podcasts are on the site at www.oseyeris.com 
 on the lab page.

> They show you how to setup a playground and make an ambience using SceneKit 
> and the second one shows you how to create a moving object that makes 
> footsteps in the world.

Like I mentioned it earlier, please do give us some comments so I can better 
the experience of the podcast. If you preffer just playing with the provided 
scenes I've created, just click on the link to the github repo and download the 
scenes.

Enjoy :)


> On 17/07/2017, at 12:49 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> is this podcast about how to create a accessible 3d game? or just a game that 
> is 3d but not accessible to blind people? from Mich.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Chris Smart
> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 10:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New podcaast series on how to create a 3D game now available
> 
> so are the rest of us. What's your point?
> 
> At 03:26 AM 7/16/2017, you wrote:
> 
>> Im blind
>> Afik.
>> 
>> Iבברכה,
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Can you contact me privately please?
>> I want to learn to code on swift.
>> 
>> × ×¤×™×§ סופיר
>> חבר ומייסד קבוצת ק.מ.×— - ×›×™ ×“×‘×¨×™×  ×©×¨×•× ×™× ×ž×©×  
>> ×œ×  ×¨×•× ×™×  ×ž×›× ×Ÿ
>> 050-5782208
>> afik.so...@gmail.com
>> www.facebook.com/afik.sofir
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ‫ב-16 ביולי 2017, בשעה 10:08, ††⠨Yuma Decauxâ © †<â 
>>> ¨jamy...@gmail.comâ ©> כתב/×”:‬
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I'm the software dev from OSeyeris, and I'm happy to present you a tutorial 
>>> series I have started that will help you create and code your own 3D 
>>> binaural experiences using swift, playground and Xcode.
>>> 
>>> I have tried to broaden the audience as much as possible, from those who 
>>> wish to understand code more to those who already have advanced knowledge.
>>> 
>>> Our podcast series are in youtube video format but the example code for 
>>> each tutorial is available on our website.
>>> 
>>> Here is the link to the intro video where I demonstrate a fully featured 3D 
>>> audio game we are working on and hoping to release soon as a set of 
>>> applications to play and start creating your own immersive world. We are 
>>> also currently beta testing thee engine with a local school for special 
>>> needs and the response has been overwhelmingly positive.
>>> 
>>> https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction
>>> 
>>> If you go through the lab page, this is where all the tutorials and their 
>>> associated files and youtube videos will reside.
>>> 
>>> I will be posting 18 videos in total, starting from the basics and ramping 
>>> up progressively to more interesting features such as A.I behavior, 
>>> networking for multiplay, audio engine filters and accoustics, direct 
>>> recording and playback as well as some SegueWay videos on some coding 
>>> concepts to make your code and 3D application more efficient.
>>> 
>>> Finally, as I have started this series, the format might need some 
>>> improvements, so please don't hesitate to contact me and tell me your 
>>> thoughts or how you would like the tutorials to go forward.
>>> 
>>> Also, if you already have some swift knowledge, contact me and maybe we can 
>>> work together to complete the platform as it includes many many features, 
>>> and is not limited to playing games but has applications in education, 
>>> audio editing and virtual audio reality. It can be hosted on OSX, IOS, 
>>> appleTV and can also be controlled with a Leap motion infrared controller. 
>>> I will release a video very shortly with a demonstration of the Leap motion 
>>> which can capture 3D volumetric information of your hands.
>>> 
>>> Let's do this guys, and have a fantastic end of weekend :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>>> OSS
>>> www.oseyeris.com
>>> 
>>> 
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New podcaast series on how to create a 3D game now available

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

I'm the software dev from OSeyeris, and I'm happy to present you a tutorial 
series I have started that will help you create and code your own 3D binaural 
experiences using swift, playground and Xcode.

I have tried to broaden the audience as much as possible, from those who wish 
to understand code more to those who already have advanced knowledge.

Our podcast series are in youtube video format but the example code for each 
tutorial is available on our website.

Here is the link to the intro video where I demonstrate a fully featured 3D 
audio game we are working on and hoping to release soon as a set of 
applications to play and start creating your own immersive world. We are also 
currently beta testing thee engine with a local school for special needs and 
the response has been overwhelmingly positive.

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-0-introduction 


If you go through the lab page, this is where all the tutorials and their 
associated files and youtube videos will reside.

I will be posting 18 videos in total, starting from the basics and ramping up 
progressively to more interesting features such as A.I behavior, networking for 
multiplay, audio engine filters and accoustics, direct recording and playback 
as well as some SegueWay videos on some coding concepts to make your code and 
3D application more efficient.

Finally, as I have started this series, the format might need some 
improvements, so please don't hesitate to contact me and tell me your thoughts 
or how you would like the tutorials to go forward.

Also, if you already have some swift knowledge, contact me and maybe we can 
work together to complete the platform as it includes many many features, and 
is not limited to playing games but has applications in education, audio 
editing and virtual audio reality. It can be hosted on OSX, IOS, appleTV and 
can also be controlled with a Leap motion infrared controller. I will release a 
video very shortly with a demonstration of the Leap motion which can capture 3D 
volumetric information of your hands.

Let's do this guys, and have a fantastic end of weekend :)



Yuma Antoine Decaux
OSS
www.oseyeris.com 

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New measuring anything and navigation tool: The Macaron

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Everyone,

I am a blind maths student at the university of Queensland and have been 
working through the winter (summer down here in Australia) on a device we call 
the macaron. The reason we call it so is because it looks like the French 
pastry, the Macaroon. 

It measures your environment using different methods and is connected to a 
dedicated IOS app via bluetooth, and we are packing it with features and data 
centric management of measurements and environmental awareness.

Here is a link to more information, as well as some audio introductions to the 
features.

www.oseyeris.com 

We are looking to work on a new set of features, both hardware and software for 
our next iteration and hoping to bring out a complete solution by July. We have 
been funded by our university's research and innovation department, and have a 
growing list of beta testers using the Macaron in the Brisbane area. if you 
also live around, please don't hesitate to fill out the form at the end of the 
linked page.

have a great day everyone



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