Re: new update to Voice Dream Reader 2.9.0
Do you think this app will ever be able to play audio Daisy books? I would love to be able to access and copy books across from drop box and play them right inside this app. Thanks On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:15, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: I haven't tried it just yet, but this latest update promises to be a very nice one for sure. The below are the changes in the latest version which I just saw in the App Store. At the end of the message is a link to the app for those who may not know what Voice Dream Reader is so you can find out for yourself. ? What's New in Version 2.9.0 Posted Oct 23, 2013 This major release significantly improves usability for VoiceOver users: - Incredibly easy-to-use text selection mechanism. Copy to clipboard, lookup words in the dictionary, highlight, and add your own notes. - Extensive use of new and innovative swipe-enabled buttons for VoiceOver users. Swipe the Voice Settings button to change the speed rate. Rewind and Fast Forward are built into the Play-Pause button as up and down swipes. - The text slider that moves the speech cursor by 5% has been modified so that swiping up moves toward the beginning of the text. The directions have been reversed from previous releases so that it now behaves the same way as the other swipe-enabled controls. For iOS 7, you can double tap the slider to enter a percent value. Plus delicious goodies for everyone: - Experimental support for MP3 audio books. Yes, it remembers where you leave off just like text. And you make add bookmarks. - Pronunciation dictionary import and export. View the entire pronunciation dictionary in an editable text window, allowing editing, copying, and pasting, plus exporting to another app like Dropbox and share it with others via email. - Launching Voice Dream Reader from Mobile Safari. Create a bookmark with the following URL. Next time you select this bookmark, it'll open the current web page in Voice Dream Reader: javascript:window.location=com.voicedream.reader://open?url=+window.location - Change speech rate on the fly with two-finger up or down swipes. (Not for VoiceOver users). - Fixed several problems with using iOS 7 built-in voices. - A lot of the minor improvements and bug fixes. The link is https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-reader-text-to/id496177674?mt=8 -- Raul A. Gallegos Oh I'm not arguing, I'm simply explaining why I'm right. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Changing volume lock screen message.
Yes, and have just reported it. It happens with the volume buttons on the side of the phone and also with inline controls on headphones. Not sure why this is happening, as the screen does not even wake up I guess the screen is well locked, as VO locks it twice now whilst audio is playing too! Chris On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:45, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote: I see with the latest update to ios 7, I still get the screen locked message when I change the volume while any audio content is playing. Anyone else have this issue? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: I like iOS 7. upgrade.
Hi all, I agree with everything that has been said on this thread. However, a couple of other things I would like to see improved are: 1. With the introduction of iOS 7, after activating a countdown timer, the remaining time now appears on the lock screen. However, when you wake your phone, voiceover's focus does not automatically read this information by default. Instead voiceover reads the current time (one of the few occasions it does now whilst something else is also present on the lock screen) or if there is a notification, then voiceover reads that instead. I feel it would be very useful if voiceover read out the time remaining on the countdown timer by default. 2. Whilst listening to audio, such as a podcast or music, the playback controls now appear on the lock screen. This is a welcome addition, but after waking the phone up, voiceover's focus lands on the timeline of the recording. Although this information is useful, I usually only wake my phone whilst listening to audio to either check the time, or use one of the playback controls. Such as pause the audio if someone is trying to speak to me. Ok the headphones that come with the iPhone include inline controls to allow you to pause and skip etc. I don't use those headphones, and sometimes I connect directly to my hearing aid. So for me, I think it would be useful if voiceover read out the current time by default, as the clock is now on the status bar, as previously it appeared on the lock screen in larger text which was easier to see or locate with finger. In addition, I would like to see Apple introduce two finger double tap to pause and resume audio from the lock screen. This feature is already present to answer and end a call, so I think adding it for audio would be extremely useful. 3. I feel Apple have missed a trick when it comes to using the new hand writing feature. What is one of the biggest problems when using a touch screen whilst dealing with automated services? The keypad! Press 1 for new message, and press 3 to delete a message my voicemail announces each time I open it (I am not fortunate to have visual voicemail on EE network). So it would be really useful if I could just draw the numbers on screen to navigate the various options. This would be very useful when dialling other customer services, such as banks etc. No more trying to feel around and locate the appropriate option and also trying to listen to voiceover on the top of the automated voice barking instructions. We would also require two finger double tap to end the call to be enabled by default, as it might become frustrating having to switch away from hand writing within the rotor to end the call. I also feel this function would be useful for the telephone dialler, especially for older people who have lost their vision later in life. Speaking of the telephone dialler, I would be interested in feedback from low vision users on how they find the new colour scheme for the telephone keypad. The contrast is non existent and I would imagine even worse in sun light. I could just make out the buttons in the previous one, as the contrast was very good. 4. More than 12 apps within a folder is nice, but shame only 9 now appear on screen at once. It would be very useful if say I reach app 9 of 9, and flick to the right once more, I am then taken automatically to page 2, app 1 of 9. and told I am now on page 2 of whatever. Others may prefer having to manually change the page. Most of us hated doing that in app switcher, so why should we have to do it in folders? 5. Is anyone else bothered by the delay of voiceover speaking when you unlock or lock the phone? The delay is caused by Apple introducing a fancy way of the LED display slowly fading in or fading out to add that slick Apple touch. If voiceover users opt to turn off animations within the accessibility settings, then this should include the funky fade in and out effect, so voiceover is more snappy when we wake or lock the phone. What does everyone else think? There are a few other examples I have come across where I could see improvements being made, or bugs that need to be squashed, such as the ducking of audio not always coming back up, or the cursor jumping back to the start of the text message if the box is accidentally touched.. I have taken up enough of your time already though. I must also point out that there is also a lot to like about iOS 7 and hopefully between us all we will get those annoying quirks ironed out by letting Apple know what we think. Please feel free to let me know your thought. Thanks Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing
Re: voice dream virsus read 2 go
Can you play audio DAISY books with VD? On 28 Feb 2013, at 22:38, Winston wins...@voicedream.com wrote: The release with VoiceOver access to the text will be out in a few days. My short term goal is to make my app at least as accessible as iBooks, which does not have things like navigation by sentence. I don't think iBooks support line mode in the Rotor which Voice Dream will. I think with the next release, Voice Dream will be more accessible than iBooks. Winston. On Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:19:15 PM UTC-5, Grant wrote: I really appreciate the obvious effort you have put into making Voice Dream Reader as accessible and convenient for everybody as possible! Speaking for myself, the thing that really prevents me from relying on it is a lack of granular control about navigating the text i.e. spelling out a specific word, reviewing the text by line or sentence, etc. Of course, this won't be an issue once VoiceOver is able to see the text, but it is an issue for now. Perhaps with VoiceOver able to track where you are, and some more navigation options i.e. forcing the rewind and fast forward to navigate by sentence rather than in thirty second increments, I'll be able to rely on the app. Cheers. Grant On 2/26/13, Winston win...@voicedream.com wrote: Thanks! Yes, I can use more 5-star reviews. I feel kinda down from a few bad reviews over the last few days from people who bought the app without looking at the description. On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:02:34 PM UTC-5, Raul Gallegos wrote: So far I think you have done a great job. I urge everyone who uses this app to give it a five star rating since this will help it look better in the App Store. Not only that, but the app definitely deserves five stars. On Feb 26, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Winston win...@voicedream.com javascript: wrote: I'm the developer of Voice Dream Reader. I'm just finishing up the next release, which will have page navigation for Bookshare books, and VoiceOver access to the text. I plan to submit it to Apple this week, which means it'll be out next week. I'm listening to you and I'll do my best to make my app work for you. On Monday, February 25, 2013 7:41:10 PM UTC-5, martin nelson wrote: Hello: I am wondering which of the two apps in the subject is recommended to purchase. At present I have no reading program. I have an account with Bookshare and see that both Voice Dream and Read 2 Go allow to download and read Bookshare's books. It seems that Voice Dream is less expensive. Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Martin Nelson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You
Re: ios garageband and midi note editor accessibility
Same issue applies on the Mac On 21 Feb 2013, at 11:43, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear ios garageband users, Just wanted to let you know that the note editor, as far as I'm aware, is not accessible using VoiceOver, as of now. I wrote Apple accessibility about it, with steps to get into the note editor and explaining the inaccessible part, and they replied they will look into it. From the mail I received, it looks like they confirm there is a problem in the midi note editor in ios garageband, but of course they cannot promise when or if at all, it's going to be fixed. I'm writing this so you know that spending time trying to get the midi note editor to work is not going to give you useful results, but now that Apple is aware of it, we may hope it will change sooner or later. Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Nook App for IOS Devices Now Accessible
Don't waste your breath, Apple want to be the only place you can purchase content directly within iOS. You are better off asking Apple to introduce similar pricing models and special offers to compete. iBooks are totally accessible. If you want a more open market place, then I would suggest Android. Otherwise, it is iTunes on your device or purchase via your computer and then download directly to your device via the app. On 29 Nov 2012, at 13:42, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Contact Apple feedback to request that they allow third party app developers to provide an online buying interface in their apps. apple took that away. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Regina Alvarado Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Nook App for IOS Devices Now Accessible Thank you Jim for the Nook developers address. I have sent a note to them. Developers need to be praised when they take the blind community into account as well as when there is a problem. Developers should want to do it automatically, but as we know, not always the case. Very pleased with Nook, though I could wish for an online buy books interface. Reggie From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nook App for IOS Devices Now Accessible If you would like to write to Barns and Noble regarding their newly released Nook app, you can email accessibil...@book.com It’s not a typo, accessibil...@book.com is the correct address. Thanks. From: Cheryl Homiak Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Nook App for IOS Devices Now Accessible I wonder if it doesn't like the period in your email address though I wouldn't think that would be an issue. At least I think I heard a period in there. Actually, I have no idea and am reaching for straws here; hope you get to the bottom of it! I just went to the website and registered and bought a book and read some on my iPhone. I have a Kindle (the old one that they now call the kindle keyboard) and I do use it some and have found ways to do a few things with it. But hopefully this may be another development that will encourage Amazon to rethink their policy in this area. Does anybody know where to email BE to commend them? -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Nov 27, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Steve Vandecar steve.vande...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I always get the message that my email address is invalid when I try to register. Steve On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:46 PM, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: as far as this app is concerned, are we talking about audio books, or just standard eBooks? Simon - Original Message - From: Chris Chaffin To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Nook App for IOS Devices Now Accessible Hi all, I know someone that is sighted and has had a nook for a while now. Just to let everyone know that Barnes and Noble does have a $5 and less section, plus they put one book up every Friday for free download. Now of coarse, the books in the $5 section is not the most current top 10 books, but they are definitely worth checking out. And no matter what, you can not beat at least downloading and trying out the book put up for free each Friday! This is great news about the nook app being accessible, and I just thought I would pass along the couple of things I know. Chris Chaffin Follow me on twitter at: Chris_Chaffin68 Or on FaceBook at: cchaf...@twcny.rr.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Bossjock Studio
Hi gang, Was just listening to John Gruber's The Talk Show and he had Boss Jock Studio as a sponsor this week. Boss Jock Studio is a professional podcast creation app for the iPhone (iPad version coming soon), and best of all it is fully accessible with voiceover. You can import from drop box, edit your audio files in Garageband, and then email them to yourself to open within Boss Jock etc. I know there are many budding podcasters on here, so now here is an easy way to do it all on your iPhone and even use professional microphone with it too. In the UK you will find the app at: http://bossjockstudio.com Thanks Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: ITV app in the UK
Yes, I can get it to work, but it is not perfect. My advice is to search for the TV program you want. Sadly the button for search does not work, so if you double tap on A to Z, this brings up the search box instead believe it or not. Once you have found and selected the programme you want to watch, do a triple press of home to turn voice over off and then double tap in the centre of the screen. This should either start the programme or get you to the next screen which is accessible again. Triple click home to turn voice over back on and if your programme has not already started playing, explore the screen to see if you need to accept their terms if the programme contains adult content etc. I reported many of the accessibility issues to ITV over a year ago and did not get a response and even left them bad feedback on iTunes. Maybe it is time I contacted them again, especially when you see how wonderful iPlayer is now. Once you get used to how ITV player works (or works with VO that should be rather), you should be able to watch just about anything via the A to Z button which is actually search. Chris On 6 Oct 2012, at 04:07, Kayla King kking2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi all, Have any blind users had any success at all with this app? If so, I would be very interested to see how they made it work...:) Thanks much, Kayla K Contact info: Skype: lamuchachabonita email: kking2...@sbcglobal.net Twitter: kaylakingmezzo My page on Facebook is where you can keep track of my life as a singer!:) http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=167826723323855refid=5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
fleksy - typing tips
Hello, 've recently downloaded the trial version and am experimenting with various approaches for typing. I type with a single finger when not in fleksy, but there is probably a more efficient technique when using fleksy. Two thumbs are a possibility, but you would lose time when reversing your hand to flick with the index finger. Any ideas welcome. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver and Screen Behavior
I have an iPhone 4s running iOS 5.1.1 and I can confirm when you put the screen curtain on the backlight is still clearly running. Just go into a dark room and activate the screen curtain and ask anyone sighted if they can still see that the screen is lit up. I can only see light and dark and I can clearly see the back light is still on, ok it is not as bright as it would be if the screen curtain was switched off, so there is probably some battery saving, but I can assure you the LED backlight is still in use. On 16 Jul 2012, at 12:37, Garth Humphreys wrote: The screen curtain does now dim the back light when it is activated. In some of the earlier IOS releases, when you put on the screen curtain, it did not adjust the brightness of the back light, all it did was make the screen black. In very simple terms, you can think of these screens as a bright light that shines through a transparent layer. By adjusting the colours and transparency of this layer, the screen makes the various images it needs to. It is the back light which really uses up the battery. So in earlier IOS releases where the back light wasn't dimmed with the screen curtain there wasn't any benefit to the battery of using the screen curtain. Now when the screen curtain is enabled, the back light is dimmed to its minimum setting. Another consequence to this is that now if you intend to leave screen curtain on all the time, there is now no need to go into the screen brightness settings and turn it down and switch off auto brightness. This is all effectively done for you by just turning on screen curtain and if you do have to show something to a sighted person, they won't have to strain to see it. I certainly don't think that I would get anything like an extra 5 hours myself and I can't see how having the screen curtain on should make any difference to whether some apps work Garth www.iblindtech.com Follow me on twitter @BlindTechMusing or not. On 16/07/2012, at 8:27 PM, Brett wrote: Hi, This isn't correct, screen curtain definitely saves battery. I get about five more hours of battery life with the screen curtain on. Test it for yourself and you will see the difference. It obviously makes some difference since apps like digetise don't work when the screen curtain is on. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 16/07/2012, at 8:15 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, actually you don't save battery by using the screen curtain. The screen is still lit. Just because the text and background are all one color doesn't mean it offers any battery savings. Hope this helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Too much of a good thing can be wonderful. - Mae West Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 7/15/2012 10:10 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: Screen Curtain being on means that the screen is darkened so that text on the screen is invisible. It should result in battery savings, and this is why I use it. It does make sense that if VO was removed from memory, the screen would automatically go on. Les On Jul 15, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: What is Screen Curtain? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Corey Michael Cook Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: VoiceOver and Screen Behavior Right screen curtain is a feature of VO so it would be disabled if VO is turned off. Corey Cook Facebook: corey.coo...@gmail.com Twitter: @blindcellguy -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 6:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: VoiceOver and Screen Behavior Since I now use Fleksy regularly and obviously must turn off VO, I discovered that when VO is turned off, the Screen Curtain is turned off as well. I understand that the Fleksy team is working on a fix for this, but wanted you to know that if you like to keep your Screen Curtain On. you will need to turn it back on with the three finger triple click gesture. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this