RE: Does Voice dream Reader now support librivox

2020-09-30 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, it is not there by default, but once yu add it, or no doubt other web 
sources, they will just be there when you hit add.



Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does Voice dream Reader now support librivox

Russ, if I go to my add option librivox is one of the choices.
Richard is correct you do have to go to settings then content sources and add 
it in there, but once that is done it should show up in the add options list.

On 9/30/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Go to content sources under settings, go to add a web content source 
> at the bottom, start typing lib in the text field and flick right and 
> it will show up there.
> Beyond that, I cannot say much.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:50 AM
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> Subject: Does Voice dream Reader now support librivox
>
> ON another list I belong to, some one says that his voice dream reader 
> supports librivox under the add option?
> Is this true?
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RE: Does Voice dream Reader now support librivox

2020-09-30 Thread Richard Turner
Go to content sources under settings, go to add a web content source at the 
bottom, start typing lib in the text field and flick right and it will show up 
there.
Beyond that, I cannot say much.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:50 AM
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Subject: Does Voice dream Reader now support librivox

ON another list I belong to, some one says that his voice dream reader supports 
librivox under the add option?
Is this true?


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RE: outlook app question

2020-09-30 Thread Richard Turner
I do not find that issue in the Native mail app.
Maybe write to Microsoft about this?



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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:00 AM
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Subject: outlook app question

Hi all. I'm using the Outlook app and was wondering if there was a way to 
switch the message order from oldest to newest? When I go through my messages 
and delete one it jumps me to the top of my messages instead of going back to 
the bottom.

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
rilni...@gmail.com
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Possible workshop on how to use Lazarillo

2020-09-29 Thread Richard Turner
I had contacted Lazarillo to make a suggestion or two about the app.
They wrote back wiht an offer to do a workshop on how to use Lazarillo.
If anyone is interested, please write them directly and request a workshop.
I don't want to be the middle man.
Here is his note below with the email address to write to:

From: Jony Taivo (Lazarillo)

We are thinking that it might be useful to have an introductory workshop to 
learn how to use Lazarillo, as well as a section with questions and answers. An 
estimated date could be end of October to have time to prepare it.

If interested, write: a...@lazarillo.cl



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RE: Question about Lazarillo

2020-09-29 Thread Richard Turner
I think she was confused if they wanted her email account password but I just 
answered her message before seeing yours.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mickey 
Quenzer
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Lazarillo

Unless you’re logging in, nobody should be asking you for your password.
In other words you never give anybody your password in an email.


*** MQ ***
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Rena 
mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:43:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Question about Lazarillo


Do you mean that I must enter the password of my email account? I understand 
they may want my email address to send me some info, but do they want my 
password? Do all gps apps do the same?



Rena





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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Question about Lazarillo



Hi Rena,

I just installed it on a new device to duplicate your issues.

  1.  After entering your email, the spot on the screen where the return key 
would normally be, is now the word “Next” double tap that to go to the password 
screen.
  2.Enter your password and again double tap on the Next button in the 
bottom right.



You will be asked to allow it to use your location, etc.

When done, it will start talking a lot about everything around you.  At the top 
left of the screen is the “Stop Exploration” button.  I recommend stopping it 
so you can get familiar with the screen.



I have written the developer to ask that he change it so it begins with 
Exploration off.



HTH,





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Question about Lazarillo



Hello,



I already found the app, but I’m confused and need some clarifications, please. 
When I open, it asks me to sign in, using email, or Face book, etc. I typed my 
email address, but I don’t find any button to sign in. First of all, do I have 
to sign in and provide email address in order to use the app? Otherwise, how 
can I skip over all that and start using the app?



Rena

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RE: Question about Lazarillo

2020-09-29 Thread Richard Turner
No, absolutely not.  Create a unique password for Lazarillo.
Something easy to remember, like Just4Rena.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Lazarillo

Do you mean that I must enter the password of my email account? I understand 
they may want my email address to send me some info, but do they want my 
password? Do all gps apps do the same?

Rena


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Question about Lazarillo

Hi Rena,
I just installed it on a new device to duplicate your issues.

  1.  After entering your email, the spot on the screen where the return key 
would normally be, is now the word “Next” double tap that to go to the password 
screen.
  2.Enter your password and again double tap on the Next button in the 
bottom right.

You will be asked to allow it to use your location, etc.
When done, it will start talking a lot about everything around you.  At the top 
left of the screen is the “Stop Exploration” button.  I recommend stopping it 
so you can get familiar with the screen.

I have written the developer to ask that he change it so it begins with 
Exploration off.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Question about Lazarillo

Hello,

I already found the app, but I’m confused and need some clarifications, please. 
When I open, it asks me to sign in, using email, or Face book, etc. I typed my 
email address, but I don’t find any button to sign in. First of all, do I have 
to sign in and provide email address in order to use the app? Otherwise, how 
can I skip over all that and start using the app?

Rena
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RE: Question about Lazarillo

2020-09-29 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Rena,
I just installed it on a new device to duplicate your issues.

  1.  After entering your email, the spot on the screen where the return key 
would normally be, is now the word “Next” double tap that to go to the password 
screen.
  2.Enter your password and again double tap on the Next button in the 
bottom right.

You will be asked to allow it to use your location, etc.
When done, it will start talking a lot about everything around you.  At the top 
left of the screen is the “Stop Exploration” button.  I recommend stopping it 
so you can get familiar with the screen.

I have written the developer to ask that he change it so it begins with 
Exploration off.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Lazarillo

Hello,

I already found the app, but I’m confused and need some clarifications, please. 
When I open, it asks me to sign in, using email, or Face book, etc. I typed my 
email address, but I don’t find any button to sign in. First of all, do I have 
to sign in and provide email address in order to use the app? Otherwise, how 
can I skip over all that and start using the app?

Rena
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RE: Deleting text messages question; Follow-up: 747964420

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Agreed.
Maybe they will consider adding an option to not have to confirm…

Time will tell.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting text messages question; Follow-up: 747964420

Thanks for posting that, richard. Their suggested workaround is actually more 
work than just the extra tapping on the delete button to confirm. I guess it 
would be OK if you had a whole bunch to delete it once. But I always read and 
either act on and/or delete each one, I guess I don’t get that many.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Here is the response I received from Apple Accessibility about the deleting 
text messages issue concerning confirming your wish to delete a message.
From: Apple Accessibility 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 1:32 PM
To: richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Deleting text messages question; Follow-up: 747964420

Hello Richard,

Thank you for your email. We appreciate you taking the time to bring this to 
our attention, and have passed this information along to the appropriate team 
for consideration.
Have you tried navigating to the “Edit” button, choosing select messages, 
select the messages you want and then tap on the “Delete” button?

Sincerely,

Apple Accessibility
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RE: Question regarding use of a Braille display

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Great!
I'm glad it worked.
The genius credit belongs to Aple.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding use of a Braille display

Richard, I did it again and after it said options, I pressed dot 8 and it did 
exactly as you said, inserted the new line I wanted without sending the 
message. Great stroke of genius on your part! It's helpful when including links 
in a text to put them on a separate line.
 

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It shouldn't.
> But, the QWERTY equivalent key might be different on the braille edge.
> What do you hear when you press space+dots7,2?
> 
> If nothing, temporarily change the typing feedback for hardware keyboards to 
> characters and try again.
> I don't know if the braille edge manual has a list of qwerty commands.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question regarding use of a Braille display
> 
> Richard, I too have wondered how to put a new line in a text message. I'm 
> using a BrailleEdge 40 and tried your suggestion but it didn't work. Does it 
> matter if I'm writing in contracted or uncontracted braille?
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It should be dot 8, or possibly space+dot8.
>> That is unless Humanware decided to use something unique.
>> Note, if you are in a text message, enter sends the message.
>> To do a new line, you have to do options+enter, which with my Orbit is 
>> space+dots7,2 release them and press dot 8 or space+8 for enter to get a new 
>> line without sending the text message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
>> Parravano
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question regarding use of a Braille display
>> 
>> I’m using a Humanware BI14 with a new iPhone SE. I haven’t used my display 
>> in several months and have mysteriously forgotten how to hit return and go 
>> to a new line? This is while writing text in an edit box.
>> 
>> So as to not gum up the list, many thanks in advance for any assistance.
>> 
>> Paul
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FW: Deleting text messages question; Follow-up: 747964420

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Here is the response I received from Apple Accessibility about the deleting 
text messages issue concerning confirming your wish to delete a message.
From: Apple Accessibility 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 1:32 PM
To: richardturne...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: Deleting text messages question; Follow-up: 747964420

Hello Richard,

Thank you for your email. We appreciate you taking the time to bring this to 
our attention, and have passed this information along to the appropriate team 
for consideration.
Have you tried navigating to the “Edit” button, choosing select messages, 
select the messages you want and then tap on the “Delete” button?

Sincerely,

Apple Accessibility

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RE: Inquiring about the new iWatch

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Yesterday.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richr...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Inquiring about the new iWatch

When did you order your watch?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Inquiring about the new iWatch

It is quite new, and I for one will not receive mine until at least October 
27th.
I’ve not owned an Apple watch before, but just know that between Series 3 and 
6, the processor has been updated probably at least twice if not three times.
More when I have spent time with one.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 12:46 PM
To: Jim Portillo mailto:portillo@gmail.com>>
Subject: Inquiring about the new iWatch

Hi there,

I’d like some thoughts from anyone who has the newest Apple watch.  I’m 
seriously thinking about upgrading from my current series 3.  Aside from that, 
I’ve been having trouble upgrading to the latest watch version, which makes me 
think I should upgrade anyway.
What do people like about the newer watch, and what are some of the advantages 
to upgrading?  What are some disadvantages or things you’ve found don’t work 
well yet?  Is it worth the upgrade? What about VoiceOver and accessibility 
issues or glitches?
I know I can get some money for my current watch and use it toward a trade-in.
Thanks for any thoughts.
Jim

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RE: Inquiring about the new iWatch

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
It is quite new, and I for one will not receive mine until at least October 
27th.
I’ve not owned an Apple watch before, but just know that between Series 3 and 
6, the processor has been updated probably at least twice if not three times.
More when I have spent time with one.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 12:46 PM
To: Jim Portillo 
Subject: Inquiring about the new iWatch

Hi there,

I’d like some thoughts from anyone who has the newest Apple watch.  I’m 
seriously thinking about upgrading from my current series 3.  Aside from that, 
I’ve been having trouble upgrading to the latest watch version, which makes me 
think I should upgrade anyway.
What do people like about the newer watch, and what are some of the advantages 
to upgrading?  What are some disadvantages or things you’ve found don’t work 
well yet?  Is it worth the upgrade? What about VoiceOver and accessibility 
issues or glitches?
I know I can get some money for my current watch and use it toward a trade-in.
Thanks for any thoughts.
Jim

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RE: Question regarding use of a Braille display

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
It shouldn't.
But, the QWERTY equivalent key might be different on the braille edge.
What do you hear when you press space+dots7,2?

If nothing, temporarily change the typing feedback for hardware keyboards to 
characters and try again.
I don't know if the braille edge manual has a list of qwerty commands.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding use of a Braille display

Richard, I too have wondered how to put a new line in a text message. I'm using 
a BrailleEdge 40 and tried your suggestion but it didn't work. Does it matter 
if I'm writing in contracted or uncontracted braille?


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It should be dot 8, or possibly space+dot8.
> That is unless Humanware decided to use something unique.
> Note, if you are in a text message, enter sends the message.
> To do a new line, you have to do options+enter, which with my Orbit is 
> space+dots7,2 release them and press dot 8 or space+8 for enter to get a new 
> line without sending the text message.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
> Parravano
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question regarding use of a Braille display
> 
> I’m using a Humanware BI14 with a new iPhone SE. I haven’t used my display in 
> several months and have mysteriously forgotten how to hit return and go to a 
> new line? This is while writing text in an edit box.
> 
> So as to not gum up the list, many thanks in advance for any assistance.
> 
> Paul
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RE: Question regarding use of a Braille display

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
It should be dot 8, or possibly space+dot8.
That is unless Humanware decided to use something unique.
Note, if you are in a text message, enter sends the message.
To do a new line, you have to do options+enter, which with my Orbit is 
space+dots7,2 release them and press dot 8 or space+8 for enter to get a new 
line without sending the text message.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
Parravano
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question regarding use of a Braille display

I’m using a Humanware BI14 with a new iPhone SE. I haven’t used my display in 
several months and have mysteriously forgotten how to hit return and go to a 
new line? This is while writing text in an edit box.

So as to not gum up the list, many thanks in advance for any assistance.

Paul

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RE: Last pass and dropbox help.

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
And, if I may, since you didn’t get much response, you probably can conclude 
that no one has that message now, so reposting it would be a good way to 
increase the odds of getting answers.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Last pass and dropbox help.

Alan,

Sir, I was very pacific in my original message for the questions I had 
yesterday. Alan,

Sir,

Yesterday I was specific in the questions I was asking. Referring to the first 
message I sent. Meaning the very first message

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Question about Lazarillo

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Call Apple accessibility and ask them to help you find it, you may have turned 
on the app library for a new apps, and they can help you figure that out.
Their phone number is 8772043930



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 28, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Rena  wrote:


The problem is that I don’t know where the app is, and when I ask siri to open 
it, siri doesn’t recognize it. What can I do?

Rena


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Lazarillo

No,you do not need to be a member.
If you create a login account, I think it just helps save your favorites.
You can use it without that.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Question about Lazarillo

Hello,

I just installed Lazarillo in my iPhone 6s, and I need some help, please. When 
I opened the app, I found welcome to Rever. Rever asked me if I am a member, to 
log in or sign up. What is Rever? Do I have to be a member to use Lazarillo?
Thanks,

Rena

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hi,
Here you go, this is the direct link to the app store.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lazarillo-accessible-gps/id1139331874<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Flazarillo-accessible-gps%2Fid1139331874=02%7C01%7C%7C8314f344e86e4f19171808d863c88721%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637369060195415960=XsIvwrm51Za7R06uqHcOFSb4JpKbQi1O1UZf%2BI7EtAg%3D=0>


Enjoy,
Richard


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hello,

After reading all the messages about gps, I decided to try Lazarillo. I never 
used a gps before.
Would you please tell me where can I find it? Is it from Microsoft as the 
Seeing AI?

Thanks,

Rena


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Soundscape is really best used with bone conduction headphones since it speaks 
the streets and points of interest out of the side the street or building is on.
For example, where I live, there are lots of places where streets do not go 
through the intersection directly, but might be a half a block apart where the 
cross street continues.
So, if you are walking down the street you might hear 31st ave out of the 
leftear.  Walk a bit further and you might hear 31st ave out of the right ear.
That information is confusing if you are not wearing headphones and you don’t 
want to be earing headphones unless they are bone conduction so your ears are 
open to hearing the traffic, people etc.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups

RE: Question about Lazarillo

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
No,you do not need to be a member.
If you create a login account, I think it just helps save your favorites.
You can use it without that.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about Lazarillo

Hello,

I just installed Lazarillo in my iPhone 6s, and I need some help, please. When 
I opened the app, I found welcome to Rever. Rever asked me if I am a member, to 
log in or sign up. What is Rever? Do I have to be a member to use Lazarillo?
Thanks,

Rena

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hi,
Here you go, this is the direct link to the app store.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lazarillo-accessible-gps/id1139331874<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Flazarillo-accessible-gps%2Fid1139331874=02%7C01%7C%7C66940d6e3dc8409e450b08d863c5afe6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637369047990461614=QPaUU%2B76c11TC84AgNmzSTCC5PdZIIrSB%2BR1okrXYDQ%3D=0>


Enjoy,
Richard


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hello,

After reading all the messages about gps, I decided to try Lazarillo. I never 
used a gps before.
Would you please tell me where can I find it? Is it from Microsoft as the 
Seeing AI?

Thanks,

Rena


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Soundscape is really best used with bone conduction headphones since it speaks 
the streets and points of interest out of the side the street or building is on.
For example, where I live, there are lots of places where streets do not go 
through the intersection directly, but might be a half a block apart where the 
cross street continues.
So, if you are walking down the street you might hear 31st ave out of the 
leftear.  Walk a bit further and you might hear 31st ave out of the right ear.
That information is confusing if you are not wearing headphones and you don’t 
want to be earing headphones unless they are bone conduction so your ears are 
open to hearing the traffic, people etc.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Microsoft Soundscape.  It is free.  Interesting program.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com<mailto:terrie...@twc.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

GoodMaps Explorer does do outdoors. I just installed it and looked at POIs from 
inside my bedroom. It seemed accurate about what I know is around me. I like 
its tabs at the bottom of the screen; they make sense to me. It is a free 
download. Not sure if its maps are on line or are part of the download, though 
the download was fast so I conjecture that maps are online and not downloaded.
Will share more after I have used it outside.

A caviat about indoor maps for this application: someone has to map a space b

RE: strange issue with Voice Dream Reader

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Also, if nothing happens in a day or so, write Winston Chen directly at 
wins...@voicedream.com<mailto:wins...@voicedream.com>


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: strange issue with Voice Dream Reader

Mary had a situation where it took over a day I think to sync.  That involved 
some audio files, which do take longer.
I’d just make sure syncing is on for both devices and wait a day or so.
HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 7:03 AM
To: IPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: strange issue with Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

This morning my Voice Dream Reader app disappeared from my mini IPad, but was 
still on my phone. I redownloaded the app, and although all the folders I 
created are still there, they are empty.

I have it set to sync with my phone, so maybe it is just taking a long time, 
but in case I need to change something on either the phone or the mini Ipad, 
thought I would check to see what I need to do to get them to sync again.

Everything was working fine yesterday.

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: strange issue with Voice Dream Reader

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Mary had a situation where it took over a day I think to sync.  That involved 
some audio files, which do take longer.
I’d just make sure syncing is on for both devices and wait a day or so.
HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 7:03 AM
To: IPhone 
Subject: strange issue with Voice Dream Reader

Hi,

This morning my Voice Dream Reader app disappeared from my mini IPad, but was 
still on my phone. I redownloaded the app, and although all the folders I 
created are still there, they are empty.

I have it set to sync with my phone, so maybe it is just taking a long time, 
but in case I need to change something on either the phone or the mini Ipad, 
thought I would check to see what I need to do to get them to sync again.

Everything was working fine yesterday.

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: What do you guys think of iWatch six?

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, indeed.
I have a shoulder bag for my iPhone, so I never leave home without it, (in fact 
I have it with me at all times even around the house) so I ordered the GPS 
model to save money.  I can buy a lot of other things for the extra $100 up 
front not to mention the ongoing costs for the cellular stuff.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of iWatch six?

Not sure if it was mentioned before on this thread, but note the cellular 
version of the Apple Watch costs about $100 more up front, and costs an 
additional $10 monthly from your phone carrier. In short, if you want to save 
money, get the GPS only model. To each their own though.

Wayne

On 9/27/20, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>
> I did not, and have never had to work with a sim card for my Apple Watch.
> When I ordered my Apple Watch, I told them who my cell carrier was, 
> and it came ready to go. All I had to do is call my carrier and let 
> them add it to my cell plan. This was my experience, I can not say 
> that yours will not be different.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 10:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Okay guys,
>> Since I have never owned an Apple Watch before, excuse my ignorance. 
>> Does the cellular version of the Apple Watch have a physical sim 
>> card, or an electronic card? If it is a physical sim card, is it easy 
>> to slide it in and out of the watch?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What do you guys think of iWatch six?
>>
>> I believe they both have GPS, but one has cellular onboard and the 
>> other doesn’t.
>> I’m considering the series 6 and they have one that is gps and one 
>> that is gps/cellular.
>> I never leave my home without my phone, so I will go for the one 
>> without the cellular if I decide to do that.
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What do you guys think of iWatch six?
>>
>> Thanks a million Chris. I have another question for you if you do not 
>> mind, How different is the GPS version from other versions of the iWatch?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 7:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What do you guys think of iWatch six?
>>
>>
>> The main reason some people choose to get the cell model is for that 
>> exact reason, you can actually leave your home without your phone if you 
>> want.
>> So yes, with the cell model, you can make and receive calls without 
>> your phone, as well as send and receive messages. Just know, making 
>> phone calls on your watch can drain the battery more quickly.
>>
>> I also wanted to mention that you can also make and receive calls on 
>> the non cell model as long as your phone is within some distance. So 
>> this can come in handy if you do not want to take your phone out of your 
>> pocket.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:21 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>>  Okay Simon. I have another question for you. Is your iWatch 
>> cellular or bluetooth? What are the exact advantages of the cellular 
>> type? For instance, if you leave your phone at home and you walk down 
>> the street, would you still be able to receive a phone call on your 
>> watch and answer it?
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:00 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> They wont use up a lot but they wil increase usage when they are in 
>> actio

RE: Ink Jet vs Laser Color Printing

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Cost of printing is much less with laser printers hands down.
Plus, you do not have to worry about ink drying up and clogging the jets.

I will ask a coule sighted friends who print a lot in color and see what they 
say about the difference.  My guess, before doing that, is that there will be 
no difference, or if there is, the laser will have a bit sharper color.
That is true with the black and white printing.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ink Jet vs Laser Color Printing

We just bought a Brother laser all in one black and white printer. It’s on our 
home network, and it works with the iPhone. We had some trouble getting it on 
the network using the wizard, but when we used the manual mode it all worked. 
We got it from Best Buy, and I even signed up for the toner replenishment 
service. So far, we’re happy with it.

We mostly print text, so we went with the black and white option. Prior to that 
we had ink jet color printers, and we were trying to reduce how much money we 
were pouring into ink cartridges. I read a couple of reviews and buying guides, 
and since we were mostly printing text and black and white, the laser printer 
was the way to go.

--
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 7:23 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Ink Jet vs Laser Color Printing

Hi All,

Our printer crapped out on us and we're now shopping for a replacement and 
we're considering a laser over the ink jet models.  We need an internet printer 
that's compatible with our iPhones as well as our PC's, and we want an All in 
One that's color.  Any recommendations

Can anyone provide us a comparison of color printing between the ink jet and 
laser models as far as how one looks verses the other?  What I mean is the 
sharpness of color if printing a picture or something like that.  Printing 
documents should come just fine and since we don't print pictures that often, 
but if we do we would like it to look half way decent when we do.

All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
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Re: Vuffalo Vills Sirius App

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
For what it is worth, the bills radio on Game Day is working fine.
I selected the first one.




Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:

hi, could someone please tell me what channel the Buffalo Bills audio stream 
is going to be on unserious? I have the app on my iPhone.

Thank you very much I appreciate your help. I'm not having too much luck I'm 
going through all the channels and I don't see anything about the upcoming 
bills game.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
It could be a mirriad of things.
Perhaps Apple Accessibility could give an answer?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

OK, if it was on by default, is there any reason it would just start draining 
the battery in the last couple of days?  I’m not doubting anyone at all, just 
wondering why the impact would have taken so long to notice.

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

It is on by default.
You didn’t do anything.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Subject: RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

Thanks for the screen time suggestion.  It was turned on.  How could this 
happen?  I didn’t even know what it was let alone how to turn it on!

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,
Here you go, this is the direct link to the app store.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lazarillo-accessible-gps/id1139331874


Enjoy,
Richard


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hello,

After reading all the messages about gps, I decided to try Lazarillo. I never 
used a gps before.
Would you please tell me where can I find it? Is it from Microsoft as the 
Seeing AI?

Thanks,

Rena


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Soundscape is really best used with bone conduction headphones since it speaks 
the streets and points of interest out of the side the street or building is on.
For example, where I live, there are lots of places where streets do not go 
through the intersection directly, but might be a half a block apart where the 
cross street continues.
So, if you are walking down the street you might hear 31st ave out of the 
leftear.  Walk a bit further and you might hear 31st ave out of the right ear.
That information is confusing if you are not wearing headphones and you don’t 
want to be earing headphones unless they are bone conduction so your ears are 
open to hearing the traffic, people etc.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Microsoft Soundscape.  It is free.  Interesting program.


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Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

GoodMaps Explorer does do outdoors. I just installed it and looked at POIs from 
inside my bedroom. It seemed accurate about what I know is around me. I like 
its tabs at the bottom of the screen; they make sense to me. It is a free 
download. Not sure if its maps are on line or are part of the download, though 
the download was fast so I conjecture that maps are online and not downloaded.
Will share more after I have used it outside.

A caviat about indoor maps for this application: someone has to map a space by 
walking around it with a backpack of equipment. I saw two places that had 
indoor maps within five miles of me: American Printing House for the Blind and 
the McDowell Rehabilitation Center, the state rehab facility for persons with 
visual impairments. Although the maps do not rely on installation of beacons or 
other hardware that must be maintained and powered , they do require someone 
with requisite equipment to walk around the space on all floors and then there 
are three more steps in making the maps. It is a good idea, but indoor mapping 
may be limited by how many facilities want to pay to be mapped and how many 
backpacks of equipment are floating around the country to be used to get the 
first level of map data.

On the plus side, this company is offering other applications of this 
technology, e.g., first responders. I would think such data could also be 
useful in coal mines when miners need to get out fast and can’t see because of 
smoke from a fire. Many facilities might be inclined to pay for initial map 
making for use in emergencies. This data would also make indoor maps for 
GoodMaps Explore.
Best,
Terrie Terlau


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.

From: viph

RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
It is on by default.
You didn’t do anything.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

Thanks for the screen time suggestion.  It was turned on.  How could this 
happen?  I didn’t even know what it was let alone how to turn it on!

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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Re: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
Screen time monitors how long you use your phone and will send weekly reports 
as to which apps you used and for how long.
I think it is a battery drain and would only be useful if someone was 
monitoring their children's use of their devices.
Also, turn off raise to wake.
Screen time is on the main settings screen. Raise to wake is under display and 
brightnesssettings.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 27, 2020, at 7:14 AM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:

This is probably a dumb question but what is screen time in terms of turning 
it off?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

Also, make sure your screen brightness is set to 0 and your screen time is 
turned off.  Good luck.

On 9/27/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Mine was doing that a couple of weeks ago, and I just powered off,
then back on, and VOILA, end of problem so far.

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Subject: Battery Dropping 40 Percent Overnight

Hello all,



I have an IPhone 8 which is around a year old.  I am still on IOS
13.7.  The only change I’ve made to the phone recently was to turn off
notifications for apps.  In the last 2 days the phone battery seemed
to be dropping at a rapid rate.  I’m not a heavy phone user so this
was surprising.  Last night I checked & the phone was at 100% at 11PM
& was at 63% at 9AM.  I had not used it at all during this time.  What should I 
check?



And before someone complains, I apologize for not reading the somewhat
recent emails on battery drain.  At the time, they did not apply to me
so I deleted them without reading them.



Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: ipod shuffle

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
Would calling Apple Accessibility be of any use?



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 6:21 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ipod shuffle

Hi Shirley,

Each iPod Shuffle model had a different kind of cable. If I'm thinking of the 
same squarish model you are, the cable has a frame and a piece sticking up that 
fits into the headphone jack. When you plug it in, it rests on the frame. You 
may want to find out the model number and search somewhere like eBay.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 26, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Shirley Healy 
mailto:shirley1...@eircom.net>> wrote:

does anyone know what type of cable the ipod shuffle takes? I am selling one 
but have no cable as I lost it. the person buying it wants to know what type of 
cable it uses. its the little square ipod shuffle, one of the very first modles 
apple brought out with voice over on it.
shirley

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RE: Swipe gestures with a braille display?

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
Which braille display are you using?



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Swipe gestures with a braille display?

Yes, I’ve tried those key combinations for scrolling but nothing happened. The 
app is Flashcards Deluxe and I believe it is a paid app. How do you do the long 
press gesture on the braille display?

K
Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

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justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.


On Sep 27, 2020, at 8:31 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

You’ve done, space+2,4,6 for swipe left and space+1,4,5,6 for swipe down?

You may have to use the long-press, or pass-through gesture, which may be 
slightly different depending on your braille display followed by the braille 
for swipe left or swipe down.
Is this a paid app?



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Swipe gestures with a braille display?

Hi all,

In the flashcard app I use, when you get an answer right you perform a three 
finger swipe left to put the card in the correct pile. When you get an answer 
wrong you swipe down.
Is it possible to perform a three finger swipe using a braille display?

I’ve tried the scroll left key combination, but it doesn’t work.

Can this be done?

Thanks,
Kim

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Resolved!!! RE: applevis.com has no search box

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
It surely would have been nice if someone from Applevis had acknowledged this 
on the list instead of doing everything in the dark.
I'm just glad it is back.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: applevis.com has no search box


It does seem that the search box is back on the AppleVis website, but please 
know that this has just been corrected on the site. Richard and others that 
reported a few days ago that the search box was no longer there was correct and 
was not dreaming! I checked this myself on my phone using Safari, as well as on 
my windows computer using multiple screen readers and browsers.

It seems that mentioning this on the list has gotten back to the proper people 
at AppleVis and, like i said, it now has been corrected.

Even though I have been using an iPhone since 2011, I still use AppleVis for a 
good source of information, especially if I am looking for information about a 
particular app or type of app. It is also a good place to check to see what new 
apps people are using and have found accessible. I will mention in closing that 
Thomas has done several podcast that is on the site that goes over and explains 
how to work with all of the new features of ios 14. It is my first stop when a 
new version of ios comes out, and I am grateful for having AppleVis as a great 
helpful resource.

Chris


> On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I am pretty sure there is a search field option in the rota as well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Greg Wocher
> Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 10:53 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: applevis.com has no search box
> 
> Hello,
> I went to the applevis site on my Mac and the search field that used to be 
> there is gone. I set my rotor to form fields and its just not there now. This 
> is strange.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you using the rota to find the search field on the site?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 4:16 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: applevis.com has no search box
>> 
>> Interesting. There was a search box on AppleVis as of a few days ago.
>> They must have done a site update recently. I often go to AppleVis to search 
>> for apps or other items, and this is the first time that I've noticed it 
>> gone. Granted, even when I do a search, I still have to dig down a few 
>> layers/pages to find what I want. Perhaps someone from AppleVis can speak to 
>> this, since I know they lurk on this list. Well, there's always the good old 
>> Google search for finding specific information, but I also know not everyone 
>> is comfortable with that too.
>> 
>> Be well,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 9/25/20, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>>> Anymore if I want to know about a particular topic and don't get a 
>>> response through emails, I go to the podcast app and type in the 
>>> search field what I'm interested in. That's a lot easier for me than going 
>>> through applevis.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Following up on the comment about people needing to use 
>>>> Applevos.com before asking questions on this list… I just went to 
>>>> Applevis.com with Microsoft Edge and with Firefox.
>>>> 
>>>> There are no search boxes, none, nada, nowhere.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are looking for information on an app, you cannot simply 
>>>> search for it.
>>>> You have to drill down through many pages to get anything.
>>>> Even, after following the link from the main page titled, “Apps,” 
>>>> and you find the heading for Apps, it says:
>>>> Apps
>>>> article
>>>> Here at AppleVis we strive to make it easier for you to find great 
>>>> and accessible apps to use on Apple products.
>>>> From this page, you can browse and search our directories of iOS, 
>>

RE: Swipe gestures with a braille display?

2020-09-27 Thread Richard Turner
You’ve done, space+2,4,6 for swipe left and space+1,4,5,6 for swipe down?

You may have to use the long-press, or pass-through gesture, which may be 
slightly different depending on your braille display followed by the braille 
for swipe left or swipe down.
Is this a paid app?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Swipe gestures with a braille display?

Hi all,

In the flashcard app I use, when you get an answer right you perform a three 
finger swipe left to put the card in the correct pile. When you get an answer 
wrong you swipe down.
Is it possible to perform a three finger swipe using a braille display?

I’ve tried the scroll left key combination, but it doesn’t work.

Can this be done?

Thanks,
Kim

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

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ApleVis.com has a search box again

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
Apparently, Applevis.com has fixed their site so there is now a search box 
again.
For a few days there was none as confirmed by several people.
Glad to say it is back.



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Re: applevis.com has no search box

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
Simon, the rotor options only work if the fields are whereHave you gone to the 
page and tried finding a search box?As of yesterday, there were none..



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 26, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

I am pretty sure there is a search field option in the rota as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Greg 
Wocher
Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 10:53 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: applevis.com has no search box

Hello,
I went to the applevis site on my Mac and the search field that used to be 
there is gone. I set my rotor to form fields and its just not there now. This 
is strange.

Greg Wocher


On Sep 25, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Are you using the rota to find the search field on the site?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 4:16 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: applevis.com has no search box

Interesting. There was a search box on AppleVis as of a few days ago.
They must have done a site update recently. I often go to AppleVis to search 
for apps or other items, and this is the first time that I've noticed it gone. 
Granted, even when I do a search, I still have to dig down a few layers/pages 
to find what I want. Perhaps someone from AppleVis can speak to this, since I 
know they lurk on this list. Well, there's always the good old Google search 
for finding specific information, but I also know not everyone is comfortable 
with that too.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/25/20, Shirley Baker  wrote:
Anymore if I want to know about a particular topic and don't get a
response through emails, I go to the podcast app and type in the
search field what I'm interested in. That's a lot easier for me than going 
through applevis.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Richard Turner

wrote:


Following up on the comment about people needing to use Applevos.com
before asking questions on this list… I just went to Applevis.com
with Microsoft Edge and with Firefox.

There are no search boxes, none, nada, nowhere.

If you are looking for information on an app, you cannot simply
search for it.
You have to drill down through many pages to get anything.
Even, after following the link from the main page titled, “Apps,”
and you find the heading for Apps, it says:
Apps
article
Here at AppleVis we strive to make it easier for you to find great
and accessible apps to use on Apple products.
>From this page, you can browse and search our directories of iOS,
iPadOS, Mac, Apple Watch, and Apple TV apps; see what apps others
are recommending; and see which iOS and iPadOS apps our community
has inducted into our Hall Of Fame.

So, I followed the link to search, then you have a bunch (I was
going to say s***load, but thought better of it) of more links with
not a search box anywhere to be found.

So, at this point, applevis is only marginally useful, especially
for someone who is a beginner.

I have been using iDevices since they became accessible and can find
what I need most of the time without resorting to asking too many
questions on the list, but I used to always refer people to
Applevis, especially for their blog about updates, and I will still recommend 
that.
But as a source to find information about specific apps, or just
apps in general, it is a crazy rabbit-warren of trails that I won’t
be bothering with.



Richard
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RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
>From my reading, the ECG is only on the 6.
The 6 has the always on retina display, and I believe the always on altimeter?
The next step up in processors, I’m not clear on the exact names of the watch 
processors, but it is next one up in the series so a faster processor.

Beyond that, I’m not sure.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: m...@michaelhingson.com  On Behalf Of 
i...@michaelhingson.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparison of iWatch 5 and iWatch 6

Michael Hingson Hi all,

I don’t recall seeing any comparison between the just released model 6 and the 
previous model 5 of the iWatch. Might someone please summarize the actual 
differences? What do you get with the 6 that you do not get with the 5. I am 
familiar with the oximeter, but what other differences exist? Thanks.


Best Regards,


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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
Soundscape is really best used with bone conduction headphones since it speaks 
the streets and points of interest out of the side the street or building is on.
For example, where I live, there are lots of places where streets do not go 
through the intersection directly, but might be a half a block apart where the 
cross street continues.
So, if you are walking down the street you might hear 31st ave out of the 
leftear.  Walk a bit further and you might hear 31st ave out of the right ear.
That information is confusing if you are not wearing headphones and you don’t 
want to be earing headphones unless they are bone conduction so your ears are 
open to hearing the traffic, people etc.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Microsoft Soundscape.  It is free.  Interesting program.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
terrie...@twc.com<mailto:terrie...@twc.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

GoodMaps Explorer does do outdoors. I just installed it and looked at POIs from 
inside my bedroom. It seemed accurate about what I know is around me. I like 
its tabs at the bottom of the screen; they make sense to me. It is a free 
download. Not sure if its maps are on line or are part of the download, though 
the download was fast so I conjecture that maps are online and not downloaded.
Will share more after I have used it outside.

A caviat about indoor maps for this application: someone has to map a space by 
walking around it with a backpack of equipment. I saw two places that had 
indoor maps within five miles of me: American Printing House for the Blind and 
the McDowell Rehabilitation Center, the state rehab facility for persons with 
visual impairments. Although the maps do not rely on installation of beacons or 
other hardware that must be maintained and powered , they do require someone 
with requisite equipment to walk around the space on all floors and then there 
are three more steps in making the maps. It is a good idea, but indoor mapping 
may be limited by how many facilities want to pay to be mapped and how many 
backpacks of equipment are floating around the country to be used to get the 
first level of map data.

On the plus side, this company is offering other applications of this 
technology, e.g., first responders. I would think such data could also be 
useful in coal mines when miners need to get out fast and can’t see because of 
smoke from a fire. Many facilities might be inclined to pay for initial map 
making for use in emergencies. This data would also make indoor maps for 
GoodMaps Explore.
Best,
Terrie Terlau


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 Thanks for this.
Kristeen


On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> 

BlindSquare update

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
BlindSquare has a major update September 25, 2020.  Please share widely.

BlindSquare,
1. Speech Recognition. Apple has made dramatic improvements with Speech 
Recognition.   Starting with version 5.0 we now use Apple's own in-device 
service, free for use in all BlindSquare versions.
2. Apple Watch Support.  Our community has asked for Apple Watch Support.  With 
BlindSquare version 5.0, all generations of Apple Watch are now supported with 
primary features. The feature list will expand in future versions. BlindSquare, 
on the iPhone,  must be running when being controlled from the Apple Watch.
Apple Watch menu selections currently include:
- SLEEP
- LOOK Around
- ADD Place
- Change announcement radius
- WHERE am I
- Around me
If you are tracking a place, its distance and direction are announced 
automatically always when you glance at the Watch App.
For people who have Apple Watch 5 (or newer) BlindSquare makes use of the new 
on-board compass providing directional support for LOOK Around, simply by 
rotating the watch in the direction of your interest!You can select "LOOK 
Around" by voice command, from the iOS APP or using the BlindSquare Apple Watch 
menu.
BlindSquare will use the Apple Watch Gen  5 compass for LOOK Around whenever 
the arm/watch is lifted.
Turning the arm/watch will provide new compass directions to BlindSquare with 
immediate reports on locations in proximity in the current direction.
3. BlindSquare PHOTO POI.  BlindSquare can now create personal POIs from photos 
on your iPhone.  These photos can be your own or those shared from friends.   
BlindSquare uses the location data, recorded automatically when location 
service is enabled, to create the geo referenced POI.
Actions: 1. Go to the PHOTO's app on your iPhone.
2. Select ONE photo
3. Select "SHARE"
4. Select the new option "BlindSquare"  (NOTE: multiple images or videos are 
not supported)
5. Provide a comment or name and select "POST"
6. BlindSquare will launch and show "Place Screen" for the location where the 
photo was taken.  You can FAVOURITE, save it, simulate, look on the map, etc. 
NOTE: BlindSquare uses EXIF metadata.  Location Services must be enabled when 
the picture is taken for EXIF metadata to be recorded and available.

Other changes:
- When sharing your location, Latitude and Longitude are provided in EMAIL 
subject and in SMS MESSAGES.
- If the pedometer is disabled from "SHAKE SETTINGS" it will also disable 
automatic announcements
- Now supports dark mode and color preferences
BlindSquare, now in its 8th year, will continue to build new and exciting 
features into BlindSquare version 5. , Version 5.0 * 66 MB


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert




Richard
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himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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RE: Native mail app

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
I would expand the htread first rather than using the messages item on the 
rotor.
So, before opening the thread, flick up a couple of times to expand thread and 
double tap.
Then, each message is separated.

HTH,


Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:05 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Native mail app

When using threaded messages in mail, how do I I care to voiceover which 
message I want to reply to?

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RE: What do you guys think of iWatch six?

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
I believe they both have GPS, but one has cellular onboard and the other 
doesn’t.
I’m considering the series 6 and they have one that is gps and one that is 
gps/cellular.
I never leave my home without my phone, so I will go for the one without the 
cellular if I decide to do that.
.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you guys think of iWatch six?

Thanks a million Chris. I have another question for you if you do not mind, How 
different is the GPS version from other versions of the iWatch?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of iWatch six?


The main reason some people choose to get the cell model is for that exact 
reason, you can actually leave your home without your phone if you want. So 
yes, with the cell model, you can make and receive calls without your phone, as 
well as send and receive messages. Just know, making phone calls on your watch 
can drain the battery more quickly.

I also wanted to mention that you can also make and receive calls on the non 
cell model as long as your phone is within some distance. So this can come in 
handy if you do not want to take your phone out of your pocket.

Hope this helps.

Chris


On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:21 PM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
 Okay Simon. I have another question for you. Is your iWatch cellular or 
bluetooth? What are the exact advantages of the cellular type? For instance, if 
you leave your phone at home and you walk down the street, would you still be 
able to receive a phone call on your watch and answer it?
Cheers,
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2020, at 10:00 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

They wont use up a lot but they wil increase usage when they are in action,

But I would think you should get a good day plus out of the battery.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:31 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you guys think of iWatch six?

Thanks Simon,
I want the iWatch six for the health features it has to offer, The oxygen level 
monitor, the heart rate monitor and such. I imagine they would consume a lot of 
battery power.
Cheers,


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 6:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you guys think of iWatch six?

Chris,

I’ve had an apple watch 1 the original,
A series 2 and now a series 4,

None of them have given me more than 2 days battery life at a stretch,

I can get slightly more but not enough to say it made a difference.
But it realy depends on what you are doing in your day and what services / 
features on the watch you have running as they will burn up more battery life 
the more you have running at the time.

Especially with things like the Blood o2 meter as it has LED’s that tell you 
it’s working so they will add to the usage.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2020 7:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do you guys think of iWatch six?

Hi folks,
I have to admit that I never thought of an iWatch until now. The great medical 
sensors in iWatch six make it more appealing to me than previous watches.
However, I noticed that the apple conference in September 15 never mentioned 
anything about the battery life of this iWatch. Did anyone on this list buy it? 
If so, What do you think of its battery life? I appreciate any comments on this 
watch in general and battery life in particular.

Cris Ali
filasti...@hotmail.com

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Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
That is not happening for me.
I am running the beta of 14.2 however.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:

Does anyone know if iOS is ever going to fix the fact that when you read an 
email message in your inbox and deleted it jumps back to the very beginning of 
your inbox. You cannot scroll through messages in the middle. So I guess, if 
you want to delete anything within your inbox it has to be at the beginning.

Johnna Simmons

On Sep 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

For my part, I'm not as pessimistic, and I won't be jumping to conclusions but 
rather, I'll be installing this update and taking a look for myself.

I'm glad you've never run into a "bug" on Android. I'm not saying it's any 
worse then the iPhone, but I've definitely seen my share of Android, Talk Back, 
and Voice Assistant bugs.

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Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Robin
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
Apple's
VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining either, so You'll
have to Wait until YourTurn comes up

Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs"
AssociatedWith  Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones

I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which
is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7

At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO
issues we're having.

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RE: user guide for the iPhone SE

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, if you consider Apple Books to be a reasonable way to read it.
I’ve not seen an alternate version yet.  Well, I haven’t looked since the SE 
2nd generation since the last few were only in Apple Books.
Open the books app and search for Se user guide and see if you find it.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marvin 
Kotler
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: user guide for the iPhone SE

Good morning listers just wondering if there is a user guide for the iPhone SE 
that can be downloaded in a readable format.  Thanks
Marvin Kotler

Sent from 
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Re: Switching languages on the fly within iOS14's "Translate" app?

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
That is perfect feedback to send to Apple Accessibility or through the feedback 
app if you are running the beta.
The more people who request features directly to Apple, the more chance there 
is it will be incorporated.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 26, 2020, at 6:50 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

I'm really enjoying the new "Translate" app that's in iOS14, but I wish they'd 
incorporate a Switch option. Right now, it's kind of a bother having to always 
change From and To, for instance, when wanting to just switch around the 
translations when it comes to written! I usually have it From Spanish to 
English, but sometimes I want to write something in English to translate it to 
Spanish, having to go and switch the From and To fields around! what I'd like 
is similar to Google's Translation app, where you can just switch the languages 
around, instead of having to go through the process, as described above.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
There is a feedback section in the helps within the app where you can write 
them and they actually respond if that doesn't work I'll find the email I used.
They need to know about this because they're using foursquare for their points 
of interest and that's highly unreliable in my opinion.
They're looking at using Apple Maps I believe for points of interest.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 25, 2020, at 7:31 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


So glad u enlightened me in that it can be used indoors and outdoors.  I did a 
look around in my neighborhood and discovered that some of the info is correct, 
but there is one or two places that have been closed for quite a while and the 
buildings are not there.  Wonder who I can contact to make the correction.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

It works fine outdoors.
It is designed to take advantage of indoor navigation if it is available, but 
its main function is for use outdoors.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 Thanks for this.
Kristeen


On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Yes.
If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.
If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.
It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.
I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hello,

Is there any gps app free and easy to use?

Thanks,

Rena

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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Actually, it is fixed in 14.0.1 but broken in the beta.  
I just tested this on my SE first generation running the release version of 
14.0.1.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

So far this has not been fixed even in the latest Beta of 14.2 so let's hope 
they'll still find a fix for this before 14.2 comes out for the public which 
won't be until mid or late October or possible early November. If they don't 
get it in 14.2 and if it's not part of a third level dot fix,e.g. 14.2.1 or 
14.2.2 etc. then we might wait until 2021 for this. But I'm not usually 
pessimistic so let's hope it will get fixed well before then.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

Not that I noticed, only main item in this is that now when you restart your 
phone it doesn't loose any custom email client or web browser you set as the 
default which happened with 14.0


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 11:05 AM
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this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues we're 
having.

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RE: Turning Mentions Off in Messages

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
I had not run into this, but that is a great find.
I know others found that annoying.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Turning Mentions Off in Messages

If you want to turn mentions off, go to messages in settings and you keep 
swiping right past block messages about three or four times and it says 
mentions. You can turn that on or off. I just found it.

Sent from my iPhone

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applevis.com has no search box

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Following up on the comment about people needing to use Applevos.com before 
asking questions on this list...
I just went to Applevis.com with Microsoft Edge and with Firefox.

There are no search boxes, none, nada, nowhere.

If you are looking for information on an app, you cannot simply search for it.
You have to drill down through many pages to get anything.
Even, after following the link from the main page titled, "Apps," and you find 
the heading for Apps, it says:
Apps
article
Here at AppleVis we strive to make it easier for you to find great and 
accessible apps to use on Apple products.
>From this page, you can browse and search our directories of iOS, iPadOS, Mac, 
>Apple Watch, and Apple TV apps; see what apps others are recommending; and
see which iOS and iPadOS apps our community has inducted into our Hall Of Fame.

So, I followed the link to search, then you have a bunch (I was going to say 
s***load, but thought better of it) of more links with not a search box 
anywhere to be found.

So, at this point, applevis is only marginally useful, especially for someone 
who is a beginner.

I have been using iDevices since they became accessible and can find what I 
need most of the time without resorting to asking too many questions on the 
list, but I used to always refer people to Applevis, especially for their blog 
about updates, and I will still recommend that.
But as a source to find information about specific apps, or just apps in 
general, it is a crazy rabbit-warren of trails that I won't be bothering with.



Richard
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RE: am I missing something?????

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Fred,
That is the beauty of the delete key.
If you see a question like that, just hit the delete key.
While I truly love the AppleVis web site, it does not have everything under the 
sun and for some novice users on this list, it is rather a cumbersome site to 
navigate.
I follow the motto, There are no dumb questions.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: am I missing something?

I have been subscribed to this list now, probably for more than ten years, 
maybe I should say since I purchased my IPhone 4, whenever that was. For the 
most part, I find the threads both useful and interesting, however when I see a 
question like "What would be a good GPS app, or What would be a good recording 
app etc., I start to wonder if I want to continue to be part of this list. As 
most of you know, there is a website, http://www.applevis.com which is a 
repository of information which can not be overshadowed by any other when it 
comes to information about the usefulness of particular app's for blind and 
visually impaired individuals. I urge each one of you who feel the need to ask 
questions which you could easily find the answers yourself from this site to go 
there and have a look at all the information which is available. There are 
lists of app's concerning various needs or wants, there are podcasts for those 
who feel they need further assistance in becoming familiar with a specific 
application and you may just come away with more than you expected. Please, 
before you bring a question to the list, consider finding the answer at 
http://www.applevis.com  and thank you.

Fred Olver

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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
It works fine outdoors.
It is designed to take advantage of indoor navigation if it is available, but 
its main function is for use outdoors.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 Thanks for this.
Kristeen


On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Yes.
If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.
If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.
It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.
I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:04 AM
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Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hello,

Is there any gps app free and easy to use?

Thanks,

Rena

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Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 Thanks for this.
Kristeen


On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Yes.
If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.
If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.
It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.
I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hello,

Is there any gps app free and easy to use?

Thanks,

Rena

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RE: Accessing videos in iOS 14 was RE: An iPhone Question

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Good find.
Pretty ‘round about.



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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Lemly
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessing videos in iOS 14 was RE: An iPhone Question

>From your home screen, double tap on Photos. On the bottomline tab bar, double 
>tap albums. Switch to heading with your rotor and single finger swipe till you 
>hear Media types and single finger swipe right to Videos. Double tapping on it 
>should give you yours.

My comment about iOS 14 and photos and videos is that its approach for 
accessing them doesn't seem to have thought much about Voiceover users.

Alan Lemly

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:16 AM
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Subject: RE: An iPhone Question

Try asking Siri to play my videos.
The labeling is not very user friendly in iOS 14.
When I asked Siri to play my videos, which my About says I have 2, one showed 
up.
It may only show you one at a time.
HTH,


Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
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Subject: An iPhone Question

Hello listers,

I have the iPhone 10r, with the latest I O S 14.0.

In settings,general, about, it says that I have 5 videos on my phone, but there 
aren’t any videos in photo or video viewer.

Does anyone know where these videos would be stored on the phone?

I’d appreciate any information.


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RE: looking for an app that gives the time every hour

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
The first actual button, says if you want every quarter hour, etc.  Double 
tapping that will toggle through the options there.
Flick right once and you hear the word "From."
Flick right again and it will say something like 6 AM.
You can double tap on that to increase by one hour, or flick right again to 
something that says ic Chevron left button, clock.  That will decrease the time 
by one hour.  Then, IC Chevron right button, clock, would increase the time by 
one hour.
Next is "til" followed by a PM time.
With the same buttons to increase or decrease by one hour.
Then, Using, and a button that will toggle you through speech, female, speech 
male, and the various tones.

If you want to have it on for a certain number of hours, then off, then on 
again, it doesn't do that.
You can have it from say 8AM to 5PM, or whatever, but the start and end times 
are all you can set.
Then, double tap on which won't change but it confirms it is on.
Then, you have to make sure you have notifications set to on for the Chime app.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: looking for an app that gives the time every hour

Just installed “chime”. Cannot figure out how to set certain hours that I do 
not want the chime to go off. Isn’t it possible to do this?

Danney
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:52 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> as I said, that is what I find super useful when out riding, which is why I 
> like this app.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Carolyn" 
> <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 5:36 PM
> Subject: RE: looking for an app that gives the time every hour
> 
> 
> That one sounds good, Simon.
> 
> Last night, while in Bible study, I was the first caller on Zoom. While 
> waiting for the meeting to start, I checked the time, and somehow or other, 
> from that time until we were through, about an hour and 15 minutes later, VO 
> kept announcing the time every minute. It was not obtrusive, and I didn't 
> mind, so didn't shut it off or try to. I'm not sure what I did to get that 
> started or what I would have had to do to get it stopped.
> 
> The chimes for every 15 minutes, especially with different tones sound really 
> good.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: looking for an app that gives the time every hour
> Importance: High
> 
> personally, I like timeChime. as one can turn it on and off as required 
> easily, and rather than just every hour, you can select every 15, 30, or 
> 60mins for the alerts. also you can select different sounds for the 15/45, 
> 30, and hourly alerts, meaning that if you can't always take the phone out 
> and look at the time, the different sounds will give you a good idea. I use 
> it when I am out riding, as with the different sounds, it gives me a good way 
> of telling how long I have been out, with out actually needing to take the 
> phone out, or fiddle with a watch, whilst I have my hands occupied with 
> lizzie's reins.
> the app is completely accessible as well.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Casey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:13 AM
> Subject: looking for an app that gives the time every hour
> 
> 
>> hi does anyone hear happen to either use or know of A good App.
>> 
>> That will speak or chime the time on the hour?
>> 
>> That is not A battery hog and is very voice over friendly?
>> 
>> If so can you please share what it is.
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Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Well, the fVoiceOver ocus bug is still present.
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
> Apple's  VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining 
> either, so You'll have to Wait until YourTurn comes up
> 
> Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs" AssociatedWith  
> Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones
> 
> I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which 
> is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7
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>> this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues 
>> we're having.
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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Another app, called Goodmaps Explore, which is from a company created by APH, 
Goodmaps Inc, just came out this month I believe, or certainly in the last 
couple of months.
You can read more about it here: https://www.goodmaps.com/
It is free, and will show up on your device as Explore.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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hello reta,

another free and easy to use GPS app is Nearby Explorer Online. the awesome 
advantage to this app is everything is switchbuttons, which are on the main 
screen of this app. it does turn-by-turn, and tells you about more than just 
the streets you cross. Heading, street name, street number, how fast you're 
going, and much more. it uses Open Street Map or Apple Maps for your address 
and search provider. it works great and is updated often. if you want help with 
this app, email me at daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com for help off list. skype:
daniel.angus.macdon...@outlook.com. FaceTime, daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com 
or windows.1...@icloud.com.
warm regards,
Daniel Angus MacDonald


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>
>
>
> Is there any gps app free and easy to use?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Yes.
If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.
If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.
It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.
I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

Hello,

Is there any gps app free and easy to use?

Thanks,

Rena

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RE: sending texts in messages in IOS 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
I will bet if you close twitter out of the app switcher, your issue will go 
away.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sending texts in messages in IOS 14

I'm using a focus 14 with the UEB table. I'm on Twitter but don't have that app 
open. I'm using the latest IOS.

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

I just opened messages and began a text message and no a's and no mentions
Are you in Twitter?  Twitter has mentions, but I've not run into that in text 
messages.
Which braille table are you using?
Which display?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:13 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: sending texts in messages in IOS 14

Hi all. Just a quick question about sending texts in IOS 14. I start a text to 
someone and the braille is weird, it says 1 possible mention but in between 
each word there are a's after I put a space in between each word. Any way to 
turn off these one possible mention notifications in the messages so that my 
text can flow normally? 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

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RE: Problem With Siri

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Try turning on hey Siri on the phone and see if that makes a difference.
If not, and I suspect it won't, call Apple Accessibility, 877-204-3930



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem With Siri

I have the 6S plus iPhone. Whenever I press the home button to talk to Siri, 
she responds by saying making a FaceTime call to, and mentions a name and does 
not respond to whatever I'm asking. I turned FaceTime off in notifications. 
What do I need to do to change this? I have hey Siri turned on the watch but 
not on my phone. Would that make any difference?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: sending texts in messages in IOS 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
I just opened messages and began a text message and no a's and no mentions
Are you in Twitter?  Twitter has mentions, but I've not run into that in text 
messages.
Which braille table are you using?
Which display?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:13 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: sending texts in messages in IOS 14

Hi all. Just a quick question about sending texts in IOS 14. I start a text to 
someone and the braille is weird, it says 1 possible mention but in between 
each word there are a's after I put a space in between each word. Any way to 
turn off these one possible mention notifications in the messages so that my 
text can flow normally? 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Ha, ha.
Sadly, some people expect perfection…

As my wife is fond of quoting, Jon Wesley said “While striving for perfection, 
let us do what is possible.”



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Sure glad to hear that you are human, like the rest of us. I have wondered?
Marie


From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Which I did, sorry about bringing it up here.
I do make mistakes, but I’m human.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

So report it through the beta report method then as you are a beta tester.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 17:03
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Point well taken.
I can confirm this is not a bug in the release of iOS 14.
I am replying with my Logitech K480 after using command+r.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:50 AM, 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Richard please be honest now

Are you using ios14 or ios14 betas?
If you are using a beta you’d better not report beta bugs on alpha forums to 
make people afraid of new alpha bugs that not exist.
Davy

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 16:41
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

I’ve not heard of that keyboard.
You are on iOS 14, right?
It could be it is only broken in the 14.2 beta.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Works just fine here at my end. I've anElle-Gate keyboard if it helps any.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 24 sep 2020, a la(s) 8:28 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Has anyone tried using their Bluetooth keyboards, braille or qwerty, to reply 
to an email since iOS 14?
It is not working.
I’ve tried it with a qwerty keyboard, and two braille devices.
Command+n for new works fine.
But command+r for reply does nothing.
I’m reporting my findings to Apple Accessibility and since I am also on the 
beta to them.
Please do likewise if you can confirm.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Braille keystrokes for modifier keys like the command key

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
I started a new thread rather than continue the one about the broken command 
since it isn't broken in iOS 14 release version.

Braille Key equivelants for doing keyboard commands just like on a QWERTY 
keyboard;

Dot 1+7+spacebar, Command key
Dot 2+7 +spacebar, Options key
Dot 3+7+spacebar, Control key
Dot 4+7+spacebar, Shift key
Dot 5+7+spacebar, FN key

To toggle any of the above keys on, use dot 8 instead of dot 7.  Note, you will 
need to repeat the combination with dot 8 when you want to toggle off the key.

Command+Shift+d, Send, mail
Command+R, Reply
Command+n, new Email, Text message, calendar event, or note
Control+Options+l, Read current line
Control+Options+w, Read current word
Control+Options+c, Read current character

All of these are included in my list of braille keyboard commands on my web 
site: www.turner42.com


Richard
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
The braille keystroke for the command key is to press space+dots7,1.
Then qickly press the letter r.
The sequence space+dots7,1 then the letter n works for new emails, text 
messages, and calendar events.
I think it also works in Notes.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

How do you perform a command plus r on  a braille display? I’ve never use that 
command.
Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.


On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Point well taken.
I can confirm this is not a bug in the release of iOS 14.
I am replying with my Logitech K480 after using command+r.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:50 AM, 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Richard please be honest now

Are you using ios14 or ios14 betas?
If you are using a beta you’d better not report beta bugs on alpha forums to 
make people afraid of new alpha bugs that not exist.
Davy

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 16:41
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

I’ve not heard of that keyboard.
You are on iOS 14, right?
It could be it is only broken in the 14.2 beta.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Works just fine here at my end. I've anElle-Gate keyboard if it helps any.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 24 sep 2020, a la(s) 8:28 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Has anyone tried using their Bluetooth keyboards, braille or qwerty, to reply 
to an email since iOS 14?
It is not working.
I’ve tried it with a qwerty keyboard, and two braille devices.
Command+n for new works fine.
But command+r for reply does nothing.
I’m reporting my findings to Apple Accessibility and since I am also on the 
beta to them.
Please do likewise if you can confirm.



Richard
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Which I did, sorry about bringing it up here.
I do make mistakes, but I’m human.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

So report it through the beta report method then as you are a beta tester.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 17:03
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Point well taken.
I can confirm this is not a bug in the release of iOS 14.
I am replying with my Logitech K480 after using command+r.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:50 AM, 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Richard please be honest now

Are you using ios14 or ios14 betas?
If you are using a beta you’d better not report beta bugs on alpha forums to 
make people afraid of new alpha bugs that not exist.
Davy

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 16:41
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

I’ve not heard of that keyboard.
You are on iOS 14, right?
It could be it is only broken in the 14.2 beta.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Works just fine here at my end. I've anElle-Gate keyboard if it helps any.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 24 sep 2020, a la(s) 8:28 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Has anyone tried using their Bluetooth keyboards, braille or qwerty, to reply 
to an email since iOS 14?
It is not working.
I’ve tried it with a qwerty keyboard, and two braille devices.
Command+n for new works fine.
But command+r for reply does nothing.
I’m reporting my findings to Apple Accessibility and since I am also on the 
beta to them.
Please do likewise if you can confirm.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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RE: An iPhone Question

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Try asking Siri to play my videos.
The labeling is not very user friendly in iOS 14.
When I asked Siri to play my videos, which my About says I have 2, one showed 
up.
It may only show you one at a time.
HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An iPhone Question

Hello listers,

I have the iPhone 10r, with the latest I O S 14.0.

In settings,general, about, it says that I have 5 videos on my phone, but there 
aren’t any videos in photo or video viewer.

Does anyone know where these videos would be stored on the phone?

I’d appreciate any information.


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Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Point well taken.
I can confirm this is not a bug in the release of iOS 14.
I am replying with my Logitech K480 after using command+r.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:50 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:


Richard please be honest now

Are you using ios14 or ios14 betas?
If you are using a beta you’d better not report beta bugs on alpha forums to 
make people afraid of new alpha bugs that not exist.
Davy

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 16:41
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

I’ve not heard of that keyboard.
You are on iOS 14, right?
It could be it is only broken in the 14.2 beta.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Works just fine here at my end. I've anElle-Gate keyboard if it helps any.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 24 sep 2020, a la(s) 8:28 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Has anyone tried using their Bluetooth keyboards, braille or qwerty, to reply 
to an email since iOS 14?
It is not working.
I’ve tried it with a qwerty keyboard, and two braille devices.
Command+n for new works fine.
But command+r for reply does nothing.
I’m reporting my findings to Apple Accessibility and since I am also on the 
beta to them.
Please do likewise if you can confirm.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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Re: [External] Re: looking for an app that gives the time every hour

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Chime from Blacktree is free andis working fine on two different devices for me.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

 Try Talkin.Clock2 from 
https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/talking-clock2-talktime/id545312858<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fmx%2Fapp%2Ftalking-clock2-talktime%2Fid545312858=02%7C01%7C%7C878776eeeb24452fc73408d860976152%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637365550565943108=VFwXs%2FvkpdTWUlMfdeEu1ahIMsFgijJDd%2B5bA%2FrvJLg%3D=0>

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 24 sep 2020, a la(s) 7:31 a.m., Cook, Steve  
escribió:


Also, VoiceOver Clock

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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] Re: looking for an app that gives the time every hour

Check out chime by black tree,
Here is the link
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Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Casey 
mailto:cwoll...@wi.rr.com>> wrote:
hi does anyone hear happen to either use or know of A good App.

That will speak or chime the time on the hour?

That is not A battery hog and is very voice over friendly?

If so can you please share what it is.

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RE: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
I’ve not heard of that keyboard.
You are on iOS 14, right?
It could be it is only broken in the 14.2 beta.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

Works just fine here at my end. I've anElle-Gate keyboard if it helps any.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 24 sep 2020, a la(s) 8:28 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

Has anyone tried using their Bluetooth keyboards, braille or qwerty, to reply 
to an email since iOS 14?
It is not working.
I’ve tried it with a qwerty keyboard, and two braille devices.
Command+n for new works fine.
But command+r for reply does nothing.
I’m reporting my findings to Apple Accessibility and since I am also on the 
beta to them.
Please do likewise if you can confirm.



Richard
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Bluetooth keyboard/braille device command broken in 14

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Has anyone tried using their Bluetooth keyboards, braille or qwerty, to reply 
to an email since iOS 14?
It is not working.
I've tried it with a qwerty keyboard, and two braille devices.
Command+n for new works fine.
But command+r for reply does nothing.
I'm reporting my findings to Apple Accessibility and since I am also on the 
beta to them.
Please do likewise if you can confirm.



Richard
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himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
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RE: Just Press Record and pausing recordings?

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Write the developer.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 5:39 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Just Press Record and pausing recordings?

With the news that the “Just Press Record” app now generates stereo recordings 
since yesterday’s update, I’m really giving it a go! But what I’d like to see 
is that the Magig Tap instead of stopping completely the recording, allow to 
pause it? What if you were in an interview, and you wanted to pause the 
recording to drink some watr or other tasks? It’d be a bother to have to put 
both recordings together afterwards! Plus if you flick over to the Pause 
Recording button, the recording wouldn’t sound as natural as if via a 
double-tap. Why not make it a toggle, for those who prefer it to behave as 
usual?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: an iPhone, Orbit writer question

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
It is the same. Keep repeating the command and it cycles you through all the 
input options.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 24, 2020, at 12:02 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Once you’ve dialled tge number, what is the Braille command to swap back to 6 
dot Braille?
Thanks
Harry

On 23 Sep 2020, at 23:20, Duane Steele  wrote:

It worked! Only after thinking about it did I see your Response, Richard, 
which was exactly what I was thinking. I was able to dial a number using my 
BrailleEdge. That's good to know if you're having to input extension numbers, 
Iwd imagine. May have to try that.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 23, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:

I haven't tried this yet, but I will. What if you put your output and input 
braille to 8-dot mode and that puts numbers in lower case, like in Nemith code 
arithmetic. I have a BrailleEdge and was wondering the same thing. It sure 
would be great if we could do that kind of dialing with our braille devices. 
When I've tried it, I'll let you know if it works, unless, of course, someone 
else tries it first. Good luck to all of us braille users.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 23, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Well, for me, doing the number sign didn’t work.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an iPhone, Orbit writer question

Richard,
thanks for this.  One thing though, why do you need eight dots?

Kay Malmquist
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Subject: Re: an iPhone, Orbit writer question

Yes, open phone, select keypad, press space+dot2,3,6 to change input to 8 dot, 
then use the dropped numbers.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


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mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is more or less on topic.  What I want to know is, can you dial the iPhone 
with the orbit writer?  For example, on a Bluetooth key board you can use the 
numbers when in a call to dial a number or enter number sequences when in a 
call.  Is there any way to do this with the Orbit writer?  I suspect the answer 
is know, but it would be a hoot if you could enter number sign 4 to get a four 
touch tone.  Does anyone know?  Thanks much in advance.

Kay Malmquist
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Re: looking for an app that gives the time every hour

2020-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
You have to have voice  clock open and running in the background, while   Chime 
just has to have notifications turned on.




Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 23, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:

I use VoiceClock which is accessible.It gives the time each hour.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Casey  wrote:

hi does anyone hear happen to either use or know of A good App.

That will speak or chime the time on the hour?

That is not A battery hog and is very voice over friendly?

If so can you please share what it is.

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Re: looking for an app that gives the time every hour

2020-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
Check out chime by black tree,
Here is the link
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/chime/id414830146




Richard
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Casey  wrote:

hi does anyone hear happen to either use or know of A good App.

That will speak or chime the time on the hour?

That is not A battery hog and is very voice over friendly?

If so can you please share what it is.

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RE: an iPhone, Orbit writer question

2020-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
Well, for me, doing the number sign didn’t work.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: an iPhone, Orbit writer question

Richard,
thanks for this.  One thing though, why do you need eight dots?

Kay Malmquist
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Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to give 
it to you.

— Louise Hay
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: an iPhone, Orbit writer question

Yes, open phone, select keypad, press space+dot2,3,6 to change input to 8 dot, 
then use the dropped numbers.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Sep 23, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is more or less on topic.  What I want to know is, can you dial the iPhone 
with the orbit writer?  For example, on a Bluetooth key board you can use the 
numbers when in a call to dial a number or enter number sequences when in a 
call.  Is there any way to do this with the Orbit writer?  I suspect the answer 
is know, but it would be a hoot if you could enter number sign 4 to get a four 
touch tone.  Does anyone know?  Thanks much in advance.

Kay Malmquist
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Re: an iPhone, Orbit writer question

2020-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, open phone, select keypad, press space+dot2,3,6 to change input to 8 dot, 
then use the dropped numbers.




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On Sep 23, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


This is more or less on topic.  What I want to know is, can you dial the iPhone 
with the orbit writer?  For example, on a Bluetooth key board you can use the 
numbers when in a call to dial a number or enter number sequences when in a 
call.  Is there any way to do this with the Orbit writer?  I suspect the answer 
is know, but it would be a hoot if you could enter number sign 4 to get a four 
touch tone.  Does anyone know?  Thanks much in advance.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: Switching to and Closing Apps on My iPhone 11 Pro

2020-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
Same as always, a three finger swipe up, or flick up with one finger so it says 
close, and double tap.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Switching to and Closing Apps on My iPhone 11 Pro

Hi, All.  How do I close an app once I switch to it?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Looking for a holiday calendar for my iPhone

2020-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
There is one built-in if you select it in the Calendar settings.
Open the app, select calendars, and make sure U.S. Holidays is selected.
There may be several copies from different sources listed.
iCloud, Outlook, etc.
If more than one is selected, you will have holidays listed multiple times.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for a holiday calendar for my iPhone

Hi all,

I’m looking for a calendar for the iPhone that will list all of the holidays. 
They used to be one called USA holidays but I can’t seem to find it anymore. 
Does anyone have such a holiday calendar that will be useful on the iPhone?

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

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RE: Safari chat unable to enter text

2020-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
One possible work around is to do a three finger swipe up to scroll the page 
beyond the chat text box, then either flick left until you get back to it or 
turn the rotor to form controls and flick up and double tap on the box again.
If that doesn't work, it could be that site is not accessible with Safari.  
Have you tried another browser?



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Harrison
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 4:44 AM
To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries ; 
'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Subject: Safari chat unable to enter text

Hi listers,

When in a chat element on a particular web page, voiceover tells me I am in a 
text entry area and then says edit message. This would normally mean I could 
start typing and get voiceover feedback as I type. However, voiceover is silent 
when I hit keys and the edit box does not appear to be accepting what I type.

I vaguely remember this as a problem some years ago but can’t remember the work 
around if there is one.

Any help?
Thanks
Ian

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Re: Strange Restart

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
I do not know what you mean about the touch security?after a reboot, you cannot 
use fingerprint to unlock the phone. You have to use your passcode.I've never 
tried Siri before I've logged into the phone.



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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:46 PM, 'cwc' via VIPhone  wrote:


Recently, I had to restart my SE20. When it came up, I noticed that the 
security touch functions had been disabled. Siri was also disabled. Before I 
did the re-start, everything was OK.

I was able to get everything back, but I am still finding quirks that were not 
there earlier. I am updated to IOS14.0




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RE: Jumpy IOS

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
It was a problem in the betas.
It was reported.
It is still there.
And, it is very, very much worth while calling Apple Accessibility and file a 
report.  The more reports, the merrier.
I'd also email accessibil...@apple.com
And, probably go to apple.com/feedback and file a report there.



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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 3:59 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Jumpy IOS

I think my email didn't get through. If it did, sorry. I am noticing many more 
apps and screens jumping around on swipes and just touching. Now that Apple has 
stopped showing things under your fingers unless focus is in that area swiping 
is the only way to get around. When swiping the screen will jump all over, 
especially to the top making it necessary to swipe again to where you were 
before it jumped. Sometimes it even won't let you get back to that point. Was 
this a problem before the roll out of 14 in the betas? Is it worth calling 
Apple Accessibility to alert them? Thanks.

Reggie Alvarado 

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RE: forwarding message to email

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Karen,
To confirm that you can forward a text to an email, I just did it.
The email shows it is from my cell number at mypixmessages.com
And the text message is an attachment.

If you have tried this and still have an email account on your phone to send 
from, check your junk folder and see if it was put in junk as a strange email.





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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: forwarding message to email

Oh, my goodness. I seem to remember that a message could just be forwarded to 
an email or another phone, either one. How frustrating!

Karen

At 12:27 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

>This is something that I really wish Apple would give us a way of 
>doing. There is not any easy way that I know of.
>
>It really depends on if this is just to keep for your records, or if 
>this is something you want to read in the future.
>
>The only way of actually copying a text message conversation with dates 
>and times and everything, is by doing a screen shot. Of coarse this 
>just takes a picture of what is on the screen. You then have to get the 
>picture to your computer. This possibly could be done by email, or by 
>sending it to a cloud service like Dropbox or Google Drive that you 
>have on your phone and computer.
>
>But then the only way of reading it is by using an ocr program. Like I 
>said, there is not a simple way of getting this done.
>
>Chris
>
>
> > On Sep 22, 2020, at 2:24 PM, 'Karen Delzer' 
> via VIPhone  wrote:
> >
> > Hi you guys,
> > I'm having a problem I hope you can help
> with. I very much need to keep a text message conversation I received 
> on my iPhone, so I have tried in the usual ways to send it to my 
> email.
> I go to "more" "forward" "send" but it comes back to my phone instead 
> of going to my email.
> For a short length of time, I did have my email come to my phone, but 
> found it too cumbersome to deal with as I like to keep different 
> things, and really prefer to do email on my computer. I got rid of the 
> email preference on my phone, so don't use that, at all.
> >
> > Can someone please help? It appears to be
> such a simple thing to do, but I'm just not getting it. I'm thinking 
> that the new iOS has something to do with it.
> >
> > Thanks gazillions!
> >
> > Karen
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Re: forwarding message to email

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Karen, Do you have an email account on your phone?
Or, another phone numer?
Then you can forward the text messages.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 2:26 PM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Oh, my goodness. I seem to remember that a message could just be forwarded to 
an email or another phone, either one. How frustrating!

Karen

At 12:27 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

This is something that I really wish Apple would give us a way of doing. There 
is not any easy way that I know of.

It really depends on if this is just to keep for your records, or if this is 
something you want to read in the future.

The only way of actually copying a text message conversation with dates and 
times and everything, is by doing a screen shot. Of coarse this just takes a 
picture of what is on the screen. You then have to get the picture to your 
computer. This possibly could be done by email, or by sending it to a cloud 
service like Dropbox or Google Drive that you have on your phone and computer.

But then the only way of reading it is by using an ocr program. Like I said, 
there is not a simple way of getting this done.

Chris


> On Sep 22, 2020, at 2:24 PM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi you guys,
> I'm having a problem I hope you can help with. I very much need to keep a 
> text message conversation I received on my iPhone, so I have tried in the 
> usual ways to send it to my email. I go to "more" "forward" "send" but it 
> comes back to my phone instead of going to my email. For a short length of 
> time, I did have my email come to my phone, but found it too cumbersome to 
> deal with as I like to keep different things, and really prefer to do email 
> on my computer. I got rid of the email preference on my phone, so don't use 
> that, at all.
>
> Can someone please help? It appears to be such a simple thing to do, but I'm 
> just not getting it. I'm thinking that the new iOS has something to do with 
> it.
>
> Thanks gazillions!
>
> Karen
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Re: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
The article said, as of September 22nd. So, that would be now, right?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Not to write short messages, but this is totally awesome!!! Perhaps a
dumb question, but is this change effective immediately? If so, I can
change my subscription to go back to the Premier Streaming plan, and
save some money from the more expensive All Access package. All I
really wanted from Sirius anyway were their music channels and the
NFL. I don't really care about other sports all that much. Wow, this
is cool!

Wayne

On 9/22/20, Gordon  wrote:
I know you'll love this.
http://www.insideradio.com/free/siriusxm-streaming-only-subscribers-now-able-to-access-nfl-game-day-broadcasts/article_6f0dc69a-fd10-11ea-8a06-f77c15711f76.html




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Re: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Well, maybe that explains why the games are no longer available on TuneIn 
premium.




Richard
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I know you'll love this. 
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Re: Gestures on my new iPhone 11 Pro

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
I have a document on my website for the VoiceOver gestures.
On I think page 6 of that document, is a heading for gestures on phones without 
a home button.
www.turner42.com
H?.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dulce Weisenborn  wrote:

Where can I find a list of Gestures from my new iPhone 11 Pro with the iOS 14? 
I would like to be able to switch applications.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: off topic, sort of Setting up My iPhone 11 Pro

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Here is the subscription email address for orbit reader
orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Lana  wrote:

Is there an email list for orbit reader users? Couldn't find it on the site. 
Can anyone help?

On 9/22/2020 1:40 PM, Dulce Weisenborn wrote:
Thanks, Richard. I got everything all set up. My Sim card will come tomorrow.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 22, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Richard Turner  
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RE: forwarding message to email

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
I think she said she no longer has an Email account on her phone.
I do not think you can send anything via email without an email account on the 
phone.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: forwarding message to email

Is the email address you're sending to the same one that you use as your Apple 
ID?  If so, try sending each text individually to a different email address.

This is how I forward a text message to an email address if the email address 
is in my iPhone contacts:

1. Double tap the unopen text message, swipe up / down to, More, and double tap.

2. Swipe right to, Forward, and double tap.  This puts me on the, To field, so 
swipe right to, Add contact button double tap to open.

3. Locate the contact and double tap, find the desired email address and double 
tap, swipe to the, subject line and enter something into the field.

4. Swipe to, Send, and double tap.
Note:  when you receive the text message it will be an attachment to the email.

This is how I forward a text message to an email address that is not  in my 
iPhone contacts:

1. Double tap the unopen text message, swipe up / down to, More, and double tap.

2. Swipe right to, Forward, and double tap.  This puts me on the, To field, so 
type in the email address.

3. Swipe to the, Subject field, and put something in here.

4. Swipe to, Send, and double tap.
Note:  when you receive the text message it will be an attachment to the email.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:23 AM
Subject: forwarding message to email

Hi you guys,
I'm having a problem I hope you can help with. I very much need to
keep a text message conversation I received on my iPhone, so I have
tried in the usual ways to send it to my email. I go to "more"
"forward" "send" but it comes back to my phone instead of going to my
email. For a short length of time, I did have my email come to my
phone, but found it too cumbersome to deal with as I like to keep
different things, and really prefer to do email on my computer. I got
rid of the email preference on my phone, so don't use that, at all.

Can someone please help? It appears to be such a simple thing to do,
but I'm just not getting it. I'm thinking that the new iOS has
something to do with it.

Thanks gazillions!

Karen

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RE: Searching in the Files App

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
I cannot figure out a way to do this.
I even tried with the standard wild card symbol with the * then .pdf or .txt 
which I know I have a lot of files with .txt, but nothing worked.



Richard
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-Original Message-
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Carlson
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Subject: Searching in the Files App

I would like to search a particular folder in iCloud drive for all the PDF 
files it contains. When I go to the search field and type .pdf, it says there 
are no results. My guess is that it is only searching that folder, and not the 
subfolders within it that all contain the PDFs. The Dropbox app doesn't have 
this problem. Can anyone tell me a way to get this done?

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RE: Back Tap on iPhone 8

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Well, two people with Otterbox cases have reported it works.



Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Back Tap on iPhone 8

I wonder how the function works if you have your phone in a case.

Andy

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: Back Tap on iPhone 8


That should be enough.
You may have to tap a little harder with an Otterbox case, but it should 
work.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Back Tap on iPhone 8

Hi,
I double tapped on the functions I wanted.  Is that all I have to do to set 
it up.
Jen

> On Sep 22, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> You have to define which action you want the double back tap or the 
> triple back tap to do.
> Magic Tap is Apple's stupid name for the two-finger double tap that does 
> many different things based on the context where you use it.
> It answers and hangs up the phone, stops and start audio, etc.
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
> Edward Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen 
> .
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Back Tap on iPhone 8
>
> Hi I have an iPhone 8 and I have enabled settings for it but when I try to 
> tap the back of my phone it doesn’t seem to work.  Do you have to tap a 
> certain place and I have an OtterBox case on my phone will that make a 
> difference.  What is magic tap?
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Re: forwarding message to email

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Well, messages seems to only send messages.
If you are saying you do not have email on your phone at all, I'm not sure if 
there is a way to do that.
You could flick up on the message to copy, and then paste it in notes, or 
something else that maybe syncs with the computer?
Normally, I would say copy it and paste it into an email and send it to 
yourself.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 11:24 AM, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hi you guys,
I'm having a problem I hope you can help with. I very much need to keep a text 
message conversation I received on my iPhone, so I have tried in the usual ways 
to send it to my email. I go to "more" "forward" "send" but it comes back to my 
phone instead of going to my email. For a short length of time, I did have my 
email come to my phone, but found it too cumbersome to deal with as I like to 
keep different things, and really prefer to do email on my computer. I got rid 
of the email preference on my phone, so don't use that, at all.

Can someone please help? It appears to be such a simple thing to do, but I'm 
just not getting it. I'm thinking that the new iOS has something to do with it.

Thanks gazillions!

Karen

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Re: After following the threads about iOS 14

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Sadly, when an iOS update is installed all the features are there.
Many like the Back Tap are not on by default. But some things will just be 
there and you have to deal with them.
You should be able to put off the update quite a while though, by making sure 
that automatic updates are off under settings, general, software updates.
Unless you need to keep Wi-Fi on over night, you could turn off Wi-fi when you 
go to bed so it cannot do an update over night.
That will also prevent iCloud backups though if you have that on.
Good luck.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

After following the threads about iOS 14

Hello Listers,

I'm an older iPhone user who sometimes wishes Apple would slow down all the 
changes for a while and give us time to just enjoy those things we're familiar 
with. So here's my dilemma. I realize that I'll eventually be forced to upgrade 
to iOS 14, but wonder if I can keep most things the same and gradually learn to 
use such new features as the APP library. At the time of this writing, I've got 
13.7 running on my iPhone 8. I have turned off automatic updates, although last 
year, when 13 was introduced, I awoke one morning to discover, much to my 
consternation, that my phone had updated overnight without my permission. It 
might happen again, and with all the new features, I wouldn't be ready, and 
won't be until I have listened to the podcasts several more times. If this 
latest update should happen despite my turning it off in settings, and I'm 
suddenly faced with iOS 14, can I introduce new features a little at a time? 
Thanks for any advice.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Does back tap work on an iPad mini 4 and iPod touch 7

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
If the setting is there it will work. Just open settings accessibility touch 
and see if the setting is available.



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On Sep 22, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jen .  wrote:

Hi does back tap work on an iPad mini 4 and iPod touch 7.
Jen

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RE: got back tap to work on iPhone 8

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
No, it is performing a single press of the power button, not a hold.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: got back tap to work on iPhone 8

Hi, got back tap to work on my iPhone 8 but I chose the three finger tap for 
the power button.  When I perform this function it only locks the screen.  Is 
this what’s supposed to happen.  Figured doing this would turn off my phone.
Jen

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RE: Back Tap on iPhone 8

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Settings, Accessibility, Touch.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John J. 
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Back Tap on iPhone 8

Hi: where do you set the tap functions?

-Original Message-
From: 'Dan' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Back Tap on iPhone 8

Hi,
First, you need to set the tap functions you want.
I suspect that cases have something to do with how well it does or doesn’t 
work. For example, without a case, it works real well. With my apple case, it 
still works ok, but I need to tap just a little stronger.


Danny

> On Sep 22, 2020, at 9:17 AM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi I have an iPhone 8 and I have enabled settings for it but when I try to 
> tap the back of my phone it doesn’t seem to work.  Do you have to tap a 
> certain place and I have an OtterBox case on my phone will that make a 
> difference.  What is magic tap?
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RE: Back Tap on iPhone 8

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
That should be enough.
You may have to tap a little harder with an Otterbox case, but it should work.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Back Tap on iPhone 8

Hi,
I double tapped on the functions I wanted.  Is that all I have to do to set it 
up.
Jen

> On Sep 22, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You have to define which action you want the double back tap or the triple 
> back tap to do.
> Magic Tap is Apple's stupid name for the two-finger double tap that does many 
> different things based on the context where you use it.
> It answers and hangs up the phone, stops and start audio, etc.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Back Tap on iPhone 8
> 
> Hi I have an iPhone 8 and I have enabled settings for it but when I try to 
> tap the back of my phone it doesn’t seem to work.  Do you have to tap a 
> certain place and I have an OtterBox case on my phone will that make a 
> difference.  What is magic tap?
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RE: Setting up My iPhone 11 Pro

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Try triple tapping the power/side button on the right side and see if VoiceOver 
comes on, that should work.
Then you can set it up from there.
I do not know at what point one should put in the SIM card, sorry.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Weisenborn
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting up My iPhone 11 Pro

Just received my new iPhone 11 Pro and plugged it in.  Do I now put my sim card 
in now?  Can I turn VoiceOver on, or do I need sighted help to do this?

Dulce


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RE: Back Tap on iPhone 8

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
You have to define which action you want the double back tap or the triple back 
tap to do.
Magic Tap is Apple's stupid name for the two-finger double tap that does many 
different things based on the context where you use it.
It answers and hangs up the phone, stops and start audio, etc.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Back Tap on iPhone 8

Hi I have an iPhone 8 and I have enabled settings for it but when I try to tap 
the back of my phone it doesn’t seem to work.  Do you have to tap a certain 
place and I have an OtterBox case on my phone will that make a difference.  
What is magic tap?

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RE: BPM Connect Blood Pressure Monitor

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Amazon has a great return policy.
You probably should take advantage of it and return it.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Kristeen Hughes 
Subject: BPM Connect Blood Pressure Monitor

I was trying to buy the Kardioarm monitor on Amazon. I goofed somehow and got 
the BPM Connect, which is by a company called Withings. Has anyone heard of 
this one? Has anyone used it? So far, the setup has been most unfriendly, and 
makes me wish to do unspeakable things to whomever developed it. If the monitor 
works, I could deal. Any info would be of help.

Kristeen

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RE: Magictap gesture not stopping playback of Overcast podcasts

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Alan,
I cannot duplicate this issue.
I just tested  it on my first gen SE running the release of iOS 14 as well as 
my SE 2nd generation running the beta, and both work fine with the magic tap.

Maybe clear out the app switcher and try again?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 7:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Magictap gesture not stopping playback of Overcast podcasts

Hi List,

I've noticed since upgrading to iOS 14 that the two finger double tap magictap 
gesture doesn't stop playback of a playing Overcast podcast. Is anyone else 
experiencing this behaviour?

Thanks in advance for letting me know and I'll report this to Overcast and 
Apple Accessibility after I hear from others.

Alan Lemly 

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Re: Some questions about seeing AI app

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
It is discarded automatically.If you use the document mode, you have to hit the 
close button to do another page.The short Text mode just reads in the moment, 
so as soon as you move the camera it replaces the text.HTH,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 4:55 AM, Rena  wrote:


Hello,

I was able to change channels and read something. Thank you.
I wonder what happens with the test I read, or if I take a picture. Is it 
discarded automatically when I close the app, or do I have to delete it?

Rena

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some questions about seeing AI app

I highly recommend listening/watching the videos on each channel.
To change channels, touch near the bottom center of the screen, just above the 
home button, you should hear something like, short text channel, actions 
available.
Flick up with one finger at that point and you will change to the document 
channel, keep flicking up to find the 9 channels available.
here is a quick summary of the channels.


Short Text channel, reads automatically any text in view of the camera without 
taking pictures.

Document, will capture an entire page if you hold the camera about the same 
height above the page that the page is tall.  So, about 10 to 11 inches above a 
standard 8.5/11 page and it will say things like top and right edges not 
visible.  Adjust the phone slightly in the opposite direction of what is not 
visible until it says “hold steady.” Hold that position for a couple of seconds 
and it will capture the whole page , then you can either double tap the play 
button or flick down with two fingers to read the entire sceeen.
You do not have to keep holding it above the page after it has captured the 
text.

Product channel, tires to identify bar codes, so you have to move the camera 
around a package to find the bar code or turn the package.
Colors, is notaccurate, so don’t bother.

Currency, will identify money from several countries.
Person, you have to take a picture, and it tries to guess the person’s gender 
and age, can be entertaining.

Scene preview, take a picture to get a description of the scene.
Handwriting, if the handwriting is right side up, take a picture and it does 
quite a good job of converting the handwriting into readable text.
Light, emits a tone depending on the amount of light, low tones means less 
light, the higher the pitch the more light there is.

There is a button to watch a video by the developer of the app with each 
channel or in the menu, help, and in case you do not already know, the main 
developer is blind.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Some questions about seeing AI app

Hello,

I need some help, please. I already installed the app in my iPhone 6S, but I’m 
confused. The first time I tried I did nothing, I just showed it a letter, and 
it began reading. Now, when I open the app, I find the same information, and I 
don’t know how to delete that and read something else.
How do I choose a channel?
Do I have to take a picture to identify any item, such a box of tea, etc.?

Rena
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Re: RenamingBluetooth devices on my iPhone

2020-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Actually, you can take advantage of VoiceOver's ability to label buttons 
here.Do a two finger double tap and hold on the name of a bluetooth device in 
the bluetooth settings.you should get several beeps, when it is ready, a text 
box will appear which is editing and you can change the text to anything you 
want, flick over to save and double tap.They should have unique ID's so this 
should work.Worse case would be that all of them would end up changing to the 
new name ifthe manufacturer used the same button for them all; but it is worth 
a try.I just did this with two braille devices with similar names to make it 
easier to distinguish which one I am connecting to.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 22, 2020, at 2:27 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Barbara.  You should only have to pair a set of bluetooth headphones
one time, and even if you have several of the same brand, if you
haven't paired a bluetooth headset, it will show up in the list of new
devices.  Just double tap on the headset that comes up and you should
be good to go.  I don't think there is a way of renaming bluetooth
devices.  Good luck.

On 9/22/20, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
Hi list!
Is it possible to rename a bluetooth device in the apple bluetooth settings?

I am asking because I have several pairs of headphones that are the same
brand so they show up under the same name. This makes it really hard to
figure out which device I need to double tap on when I wish to pair it with
my iphone.  I thought it might be easier if I could rename the devices.  So
is this possible?
I have an iphone 8 running ios 13.3.1

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Re: listening to NFL games

2020-09-21 Thread Richard Turner
I just checked on Game Day Pro Football radio: both the first New Orleans 
Radio, and the first Raiders' radio work fine.
Remember that sometimesduring commercials there is silence, or some music 
playing, which may make you think there is no game on.
Also, remember Raiders are listed as Los Vegas.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 21, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Robin  wrote:

 SiriusXMRadio works as Far as  My NonTechSavySelf knows, as  I haven't 
encountered  any Difficulty Streamin' or Listenin'To  NFL Games
Note:
I'm a  Homer, so My NFL Teams are Local NFL Teams, & I would MostLikely Be Able 
to ListenTo them anyways  via Local  Radio Broadcasts in MyArea

At 10:17 AM 9/21/2020, you wrote:

Yes, that was an awesome game and was quite pleased with the outcome smile!

Am feeling like only options are either the nfl game pass or sirius xm.Â



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games



Kitty:



I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the 
game.  I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or 
five.



I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.



Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.



Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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Re: iOS14 update

2020-09-21 Thread Richard Turner
Call apple accessibility 877-204-3930




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


What could be keeping my iPad 6gen from upgrading to this OS? When I open 
software update it shows that I am running 13.7 and says that I am up to date.
**
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for 
Family times

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RE: Toolbar?

2020-09-21 Thread Richard Turner
Interesting.
I just expanded a thread with 4 messages in it.
I flicked to the second one, then deleted it, and the third one came into focus.
I tried that again and got the same result.
This method of expanding the thread does separate the messages into a more 
standard list and does identify the sender where as for me, if I just use 
messages on the rotor with the caption description turned off, I have no idea 
who it is from.
This is going to be my method of reading threads from now on.
I'll comment again If I can duplicate the focus issue when deleting a message 
within a thread.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Toolbar?

Well, if I get a thread of messages and I expand to the thread with the actions 
rotor. Then I flip to the right to read the first message. So I don’t have to 
open the message unless it’s too long for the preview pane. Having read the 
preview pane, I may delete the message. I expect to see the next message in the 
thread. But God knows where I might be. It’s like I’m in the next message in 
the order in the mail list, not the next message in the thread. It’s like once 
I expand the thread, the system no longer recognizes it as such.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Sieghard, do you have it set to Do Nothing under Caption Description in 
> Verbosity?
> 
> I get no information about the who the threaded messages are from if it is 
> set to do nothing.
> 
> No numbers, no names; very interesting.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Toolbar?
> 
> I have this turned off and if you are talking about threaded messages in the 
> Mail app then this seems to work fine for me.
> I currently only have a few with two messages where I received a message and 
> then replied, if I swipe to one of them Voiceover announces "Replied" and the 
> name of the person who sent it, then it will say "2 messages in thread". If I 
> double tap to open the thread and then turn the rotor to Messages I can swipe 
> down and Voiceover says "Message 2 of 2" and it will say "From: Sieghard 
> Weitzel", if I swipe up again it will say "Message 1 of 2" and this is 
> followed by the original sender's name.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alvin Ng
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 3:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Toolbar?
> 
> But when you turn off the container descriptions, you will not know which 
> message you are in using the treaded mails. Besides, VO will not announce who 
> the sender is.
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Sep 2020, at 9:03 AM, Michael Jones  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Take a look at the verbosity settings for Voiceover.  I set the "container 
> descriptions" to "do nothing" and I am not getting a lot of the extra speech.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 19:23, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, that toolbar announcement bugs the crap out of me just like the 
>> thing saying "conversations" at the top of the messages app.
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
>>> On 9/20/20, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
>>> Yup. I wrote Apple accessibility as well. Don’t' know if it's a bug 
>>> or well intentioned effort to provide more description/information, 
>>> but it's one of those cases where more isn't better.
>>> I asked if it isn't in fact a bug, that if they could at the very 
>>> least include this behavior only when hints are turned on to give us 
>>> more experienced iOS users more options on what's spoken.
>>> Same goes for the mail app. Now, when you're focused on a folder, VO 
>>> says no unread mail. I mean., you intuitively understand if VO 
>>> doesn’t' read X unre

RE: braille flashes in some of my apps peculiar

2020-09-21 Thread Richard Turner
Which channel exactly are you finding this in?
I just tried the New York Times, books section and it is reading fine.
Thanks,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: braille flashes in some of my apps peculiar

Hi Richard. I'll be interested in your findings. When it flashes it takes me 
right back to the top of the screen again. So that may be it. 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I would assume that this may be the focus issue in iOS 14.
I have not tried accessing Newsline on my phone with the braille display.
I'll try that later.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 12:12 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: braille flashes in some of my apps peculiar

Hi all. I'm using IOS 14 and my focus 14. When I'm in NFB Newsline the top line 
tends to flash. For example, if I'm viewing Local News in a newspaper I could 
be reading down and the line Local News flashes almost continuously. This also 
happened when I was trying to sign up for my FollowMyHealth patient portal for 
my doctor. When I'm on the Sign up screen at the top it says Sign up to 
Connect. That flashes I'd say every 3 seconds and I lose focus. Anyone know 
what could be causing this? Is it a bug or is there some setting that I should 
turn off? Thanks.

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

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