RE: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-18 Thread davycuppens
Thanx fort hat Richard but I understand Mary in her request and I have also 
done a friendly mail to accessibility to make "delete" first again in the rotor 
action.
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: vrijdag 18 september 2020 5:55
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

It pins a message at the top of the list.
So you can find important messages more quickly by pinning them at the top.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

What does pin do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again 
> and you have delete.
> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
> does anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
> 
> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added stuff, 
> and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have to assume 
> that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So why did 
> they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless to in my 
> view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems to me that 
> delete is the most common thing that people do once they read a text message. 
> Unless they open the message and actually reply of course
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Pin puts the message thread at the top. You can pin up to 8 conversations so 
they're always at the top and easy to find.


> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> What does pin do?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again 
>> and you have delete.
>> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
>> does anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
>> To: VIPhone via 
>> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
>> 
>> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
>> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added 
>> stuff, and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have 
>> to assume that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So 
>> why did they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless 
>> to in my view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems 
>> to me that delete is the most common thing that people do once they read a 
>> text message. Unless they open the message and actually reply of course
>> 
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Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Mike B
Well, my guess would be that it would Pin it to wherever you Drag it to! 
LOL  I'm sorry Shirley, but I'm tired and just couldn't resist!

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Shirley Baker
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages


What does pin do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down 
> again and you have delete.
> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
> does anyway.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
> Edward Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
>
> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added 
> stuff, and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have 
> to assume that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. 
> So why did they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of 
> useless to in my view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, 
> it seems to me that delete is the most common thing that people do once 
> they read a text message. Unless they open the message and actually reply 
> of course
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yes under settings, accessibility 
Vision 
Rota.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marty 
Hutchings
Sent: Friday, 18 September 2020 4:15 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

I might be mistaken as I am still new to the whole ios thing, but I believe 
that you can remove items from the rotor that you do not find useful.



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and 
fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

So if you double tap pin, then it automatically does that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Shirley Baker  
> wrote:
>
> What does pin do?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down 
>> again and you have delete.
>> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
>> does anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
>> To: VIPhone via 
>> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
>>
>> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
>> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added 
>> stuff, and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I 
>> have to assume that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a 
>> message. So why did they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is 
>> kind of useless to in my view, but other people probably have a use for 
>> it. Still, it seems to me that delete is the most common thing that 
>> people do once they read a text message. Unless they open the message and 
>> actually reply of course
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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RE: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Richard Turner
Marty, the major things on the rotor yes, you can select or deselect rotor 
items in the VoiceOver Rotor settings.
But the things on the action like pin, drag, delete, etc., you cannot change.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marty 
Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

I might be mistaken as I am still new to the whole ios thing, but I believe 
that you can remove items from the rotor that you do not find useful.



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and 
fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

So if you double tap pin, then it automatically does that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Shirley Baker  
> wrote:
>
> What does pin do?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down 
>> again and you have delete.
>> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
>> does anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
>> To: VIPhone via 
>> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
>>
>> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
>> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added 
>> stuff, and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I 
>> have to assume that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a 
>> message. So why did they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is 
>> kind of useless to in my view, but other people probably have a use for 
>> it. Still, it seems to me that delete is the most common thing that 
>> people do once they read a text message. Unless they open the message and 
>> actually reply of course
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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RE: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, if you double tap on Pin, that message is now pinned at the top.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

So if you double tap pin, then it automatically does that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> What does pin do?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again 
>> and you have delete.
>> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
>> does anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
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>> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
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>> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
>> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added 
>> stuff, and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have 
>> to assume that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So 
>> why did they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless 
>> to in my view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems 
>> to me that delete is the most common thing that people do once they read a 
>> text message. Unless they open the message and actually reply of course
>> 
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Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Marty Hutchings
I might be mistaken as I am still new to the whole ios thing, but I believe 
that you can remove items from the rotor that you do not find useful.




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-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Baker

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

So if you double tap pin, then it automatically does that?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Shirley Baker  
wrote:


What does pin do?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down 
again and you have delete.
I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
does anyway.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added 
stuff, and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I 
have to assume that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a 
message. So why did they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is 
kind of useless to in my view, but other people probably have a use for 
it. Still, it seems to me that delete is the most common thing that 
people do once they read a text message. Unless they open the message and 
actually reply of course


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Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Shirley Baker
So if you double tap pin, then it automatically does that?

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> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> What does pin do?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again 
>> and you have delete.
>> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
>> does anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
>> To: VIPhone via 
>> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
>> 
>> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
>> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added 
>> stuff, and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have 
>> to assume that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So 
>> why did they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless 
>> to in my view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems 
>> to me that delete is the most common thing that people do once they read a 
>> text message. Unless they open the message and actually reply of course
>> 
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RE: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Richard Turner
It pins a message at the top of the list.
So you can find important messages more quickly by pinning them at the top.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

What does pin do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again 
> and you have delete.
> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
> does anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
> 
> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added stuff, 
> and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have to assume 
> that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So why did 
> they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless to in my 
> view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems to me that 
> delete is the most common thing that people do once they read a text message. 
> Unless they open the message and actually reply of course
> 
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Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Shirley Baker
What does pin do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again 
> and you have delete.
> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
> does anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
> 
> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added stuff, 
> and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have to assume 
> that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So why did 
> they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless to in my 
> view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems to me that 
> delete is the most common thing that people do once they read a text message. 
> Unless they open the message and actually reply of course
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Re: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I’m going to write Apple accessibility and request that it be put back 
the way it was. I don’t really care what drag does, whatever it is it’s not as 
common as delete, so it can move. I hope others will do the same.

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> On Sep 17, 2020, at 8:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again 
> and you have delete.
> I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag 
> does anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages
> 
> In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
> little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added stuff, 
> and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have to assume 
> that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So why did 
> they have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless to in my 
> view, but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems to me that 
> delete is the most common thing that people do once they read a text message. 
> Unless they open the message and actually reply of course
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RE: Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, apparently flicking up gets Drag, flicking down gets Pin.  Down again and 
you have delete.
I would have put delete first, then pin.  I'm not sure what the heck drag does 
anyway.



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In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added stuff, 
and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have to assume 
that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So why did they 
have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless to in my view, 
but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems to me that delete 
is the most common thing that people do once they read a text message. Unless 
they open the message and actually reply of course

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Annoying change in the actions rotor and messages

2020-09-17 Thread Mary Otten
In messages in iOS 13, if you were in your list of received messages, one 
little flick will get you to the delete button. It seems they’ve added stuff, 
and now delete is two flicks away. Maybe not a big deal. But I have to assume 
that deleting would be far more useful than dragging a message. So why did they 
have to put drag right next to activate? Pin is kind of useless to in my view, 
but other people probably have a use for it. Still, it seems to me that delete 
is the most common thing that people do once they read a text message. Unless 
they open the message and actually reply of course

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