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2013-02-20 Thread RobH!
I'm not a flexy subscriber, but the last two comments - learning curve and 
special gestures - probably give justification why not. Ok, I don't mind 
learning stuff,  I got up to speed with the braille thing, but no one 
mentioned all that before when trying to sell us the Flexy concept.

For whom it works, good!, for the rest, shrug!.


RobH.
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Yes, my comment was around how many sighted people will put themselves out 
enough to go through the learning curve. The fact is, people need a strong 
motivator when it isn't necessary that they learn something. This is a 
factor which early adopters, like myself, often forget. To get average 
people to change, they have to emotionally perceive the change as being 
highly beneficial for them. The bar is lower for the blind because so much 
is inaccessible from the outset.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/02/2013, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi David,

 I sent an email to Rob from the Today in iOS podcast about Fleksy and
 included the link to their blog post Richard initially posted. Rob read 
 out
 my email and said he had downloaded the app, but he didn't have a chance 
 to
 try it yet.

 I think the fact that one sighted friend didn't like it hardly means that
 ten thousand other sighted people won't love it. I'll post something if 
 Rob
 mentions it again or if he gets any feedback from his listeners which he
 shares on the Podcast. I think for a sighted person Fleksy could still be
 useful, you could really tap away without necessarily having to pay
 attention that you hit each character exactly and it would be that much 
 more
 accurate. Everything of course has some sort of learning curve and getting
 used to period associated with it.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


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 Of David Chittenden
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 SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

 A sighted friend, who uses his iPhone for everything, tried Flexy and 
 didn't
 like it. He found the special gestures to be extremely annoying and went
 back to the standard onscreen keyboard.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 20/02/2013, at 8:23, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 Hi Carol,

 Just wrote also.  I think it is also a good idea to point out how this
 would
 be a great addition for all users and not only the blind population.  We
 have to put numbers on our side.  It makes it more appealing to them if
 they
 realize they are doing it for millions and not just for a few thousand.

 Ron  Danvers


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 Of Carol Pearson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
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 Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
 SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

 Hi all,

 I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice 
 of
 onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received an
 acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.

 Send your request now to

accessibil...@apple.com

 Let's get our requests heard! Smiles

 Carol P

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RE: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread Regina Alvarado
Another voice added Carol.  Just wrote, but I also sent the email Bill from
Fleksy wrote that we can send.  Hope enough folks will ask to put just a bit
of pressure on so maybe they will listen! 
Reggie and Brooks


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Hi all,

I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice 
of onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received 
an acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.

Send your request now to

 accessibil...@apple.com

Let's get our requests heard! Smiles

Carol P

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Re: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread Chris H
I got the acknowledgement as well days after sending the suggestion 
directly via Fleksy.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 19/02/2013 16:51, Carol Pearson wrote:

Hi all,

I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice
of onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received
an acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.

Send your request now to

 accessibil...@apple.com

Let's get our requests heard! Smiles

Carol P



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2013-02-19 Thread RobH!
so did I,   don't know about that other one you mentioned, I just said it in 
my own way;  that probably looks more natural  or spontanious.

Rh.
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Another voice added Carol.  Just wrote, but I also sent the email Bill from
Fleksy wrote that we can send.  Hope enough folks will ask to put just a bit
of pressure on so maybe they will listen!
Reggie and Brooks


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Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
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Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

Hi all,

I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice
of onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received
an acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.

Send your request now to

 accessibil...@apple.com

Let's get our requests heard! Smiles

Carol P

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RE: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Carol,

Just wrote also.  I think it is also a good idea to point out how this would
be a great addition for all users and not only the blind population.  We
have to put numbers on our side.  It makes it more appealing to them if they
realize they are doing it for millions and not just for a few thousand.

Ron  Danvers


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Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
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Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

Hi all,

I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice of
onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received an
acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.

Send your request now to

 accessibil...@apple.com

Let's get our requests heard! Smiles

Carol P

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Re: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread David Chittenden
A sighted friend, who uses his iPhone for everything, tried Flexy and didn't 
like it. He found the special gestures to be extremely annoying and went back 
to the standard onscreen keyboard. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/02/2013, at 8:23, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 Hi Carol,
 
 Just wrote also.  I think it is also a good idea to point out how this would
 be a great addition for all users and not only the blind population.  We
 have to put numbers on our side.  It makes it more appealing to them if they
 realize they are doing it for millions and not just for a few thousand.
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Carol Pearson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
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 Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
 SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests
 
 Hi all,
 
 I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice of
 onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received an
 acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.
 
 Send your request now to
 
 accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Let's get our requests heard! Smiles
 
 Carol P
 
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Re: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread Robert Fenton
All the more reason to have a choice of both a regular and Fleksy style 
keyboard.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-19, at 3:09 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 A sighted friend, who uses his iPhone for everything, tried Flexy and didn't 
 like it. He found the special gestures to be extremely annoying and went back 
 to the standard onscreen keyboard. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/02/2013, at 8:23, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Carol,
 
 Just wrote also.  I think it is also a good idea to point out how this would
 be a great addition for all users and not only the blind population.  We
 have to put numbers on our side.  It makes it more appealing to them if they
 realize they are doing it for millions and not just for a few thousand.
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Carol Pearson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
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 Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
 SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests
 
 Hi all,
 
 I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice of
 onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received an
 acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.
 
 Send your request now to
 
accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Let's get our requests heard! Smiles
 
 Carol P
 
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Re: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread Carol Pearson

Yes Ron, that's a good point.

I am sure some of the sighted folk like Flecksy.

Carol P

On 19/02/2013 19:23, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi Carol,

Just wrote also.  I think it is also a good idea to point out how this would
be a great addition for all users and not only the blind population.  We
have to put numbers on our side.  It makes it more appealing to them if they
realize they are doing it for millions and not just for a few thousand.

Ron  Danvers


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

Hi all,

I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice of
onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received an
acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.

Send your request now to

  accessibil...@apple.com

Let's get our requests heard! Smiles

Carol P

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RE: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi David,

I sent an email to Rob from the Today in iOS podcast about Fleksy and
included the link to their blog post Richard initially posted. Rob read out
my email and said he had downloaded the app, but he didn't have a chance to
try it yet. 

I think the fact that one sighted friend didn't like it hardly means that
ten thousand other sighted people won't love it. I'll post something if Rob
mentions it again or if he gets any feedback from his listeners which he
shares on the Podcast. I think for a sighted person Fleksy could still be
useful, you could really tap away without necessarily having to pay
attention that you hit each character exactly and it would be that much more
accurate. Everything of course has some sort of learning curve and getting
used to period associated with it.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

A sighted friend, who uses his iPhone for everything, tried Flexy and didn't
like it. He found the special gestures to be extremely annoying and went
back to the standard onscreen keyboard. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/02/2013, at 8:23, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 Hi Carol,
 
 Just wrote also.  I think it is also a good idea to point out how this
would
 be a great addition for all users and not only the blind population.  We
 have to put numbers on our side.  It makes it more appealing to them if
they
 realize they are doing it for millions and not just for a few thousand.
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Carol Pearson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
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 Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
 SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests
 
 Hi all,
 
 I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice of
 onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received an
 acknowledgement and would like to suggest that others write also.
 
 Send your request now to
 
 accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Let's get our requests heard! Smiles
 
 Carol P
 
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Re: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests

2013-02-19 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, my comment was around how many sighted people will put themselves out 
enough to go through the learning curve. The fact is, people need a strong 
motivator when it isn't necessary that they learn something. This is a factor 
which early adopters, like myself, often forget. To get average people to 
change, they have to emotionally perceive the change as being highly beneficial 
for them. The bar is lower for the blind because so much is inaccessible from 
the outset.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 20/02/2013, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi David,
 
 I sent an email to Rob from the Today in iOS podcast about Fleksy and
 included the link to their blog post Richard initially posted. Rob read out
 my email and said he had downloaded the app, but he didn't have a chance to
 try it yet. 
 
 I think the fact that one sighted friend didn't like it hardly means that
 ten thousand other sighted people won't love it. I'll post something if Rob
 mentions it again or if he gets any feedback from his listeners which he
 shares on the Podcast. I think for a sighted person Fleksy could still be
 useful, you could really tap away without necessarily having to pay
 attention that you hit each character exactly and it would be that much more
 accurate. Everything of course has some sort of learning curve and getting
 used to period associated with it.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
 SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests
 
 A sighted friend, who uses his iPhone for everything, tried Flexy and didn't
 like it. He found the special gestures to be extremely annoying and went
 back to the standard onscreen keyboard. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/02/2013, at 8:23, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Carol,
 
 Just wrote also.  I think it is also a good idea to point out how this
 would
 be a great addition for all users and not only the blind population.  We
 have to put numbers on our side.  It makes it more appealing to them if
 they
 realize they are doing it for millions and not just for a few thousand.
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Carol Pearson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: A QUICK REMINDER ABOUT WRITING TO APPLE WITH
 SUGGESTIONS/COMMENTS/Requests
 
 Hi all,
 
 I recently wrote Apple to voice my request for them to give us a choice of
 onboard keyboard, such as Flecksy or BrailleTouch.  I have received an
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 Send your request now to
 
accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Let's get our requests heard! Smiles
 
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