Touch Id's possible weaknesses
Hi all, Here's an interesting article I just bumped into in regards to the new IOS7's Touch ID. The article concerns what touch id can and cannot deliver. See below for link to article URL: Can Touch ID be hacked? Yes, fingerprint sensors have been around for at least two decades and have been hacked before. So, while Touch ID hasn't been hacked yet, that probably owes more to the device not being publicly available yet than anything else. As the iPhone 5S proliferates, expect creative and disturbing methods of hacking the fingerprint sensor to arise. Hopefully, would-be thieves won't start carrying cigar cutters around. Does Touch ID use two-factor authentication? No. Touch ID is not considered two-factor authentication because there is no second authorization technique that's required to use it. It's possible that Apple could expand the feature in the future to include stronger security, but one of the appeals of Touch ID, like the Windows 8 picture login, is that it requires the security input only once. There are still many questions that remain about Touch ID's implementation, including how people will use it and how developers will incorporate it. A big unknown for Apple's bottom line is whether businesses will consider this safer for the bring your own device movement, and demand that their employees have it. And it's not going to eliminate passwords -- at least, not on its own. Apple is not the first major smartphone maker to incorporate a biometric sensor into a device. Motorola did it with the Atrix but it bombed. What we know about Apple's Touch ID (FAQ) | Apple - CNET News http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57602318-37/what-we-know-about-apples-touch-id-faq/ Joseph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Touch Id's possible weaknesses
If I had the iphone 5s, I would probably not use this feature, it's still very new and I would be concerned about how reliable it was. Original message: Hi all, Here's an interesting article I just bumped into in regards to the new IOS7's Touch ID. The article concerns what touch id can and cannot deliver. See below for link to article URL: Can Touch ID be hacked? Yes, fingerprint sensors have been around for at least two decades and have been hacked before. So, while Touch ID hasn't been hacked yet, that probably owes more to the device not being publicly available yet than anything else. As the iPhone 5S proliferates, expect creative and disturbing methods of hacking the fingerprint sensor to arise. Hopefully, would-be thieves won't start carrying cigar cutters around. Does Touch ID use two-factor authentication? No. Touch ID is not considered two-factor authentication because there is no second authorization technique that's required to use it. It's possible that Apple could expand the feature in the future to include stronger security, but one of the appeals of Touch ID, like the Windows 8 picture login, is that it requires the security input only once. There are still many questions that remain about Touch ID's implementation, including how people will use it and how developers will incorporate it. A big unknown for Apple's bottom line is whether businesses will consider this safer for the bring your own device movement, and demand that their employees have it. And it's not going to eliminate passwords -- at least, not on its own. Apple is not the first major smartphone maker to incorporate a biometric sensor into a device. Motorola did it with the Atrix but it bombed. What we know about Apple's Touch ID (FAQ) | Apple - CNET News http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57602318-37/what-we-know-about-apples-touch-id-faq/ Joseph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Touch Id's possible weaknesses
Hi, But if you found it not to be reliable, wouldn’t you just turn it off? You would have lost nothing by trying it for your self. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: If I had the iphone 5s, I would probably not use this feature, it's still very new and I would be concerned about how reliable it was. Original message: Hi all, Here's an interesting article I just bumped into in regards to the new IOS7's Touch ID. The article concerns what touch id can and cannot deliver. See below for link to article URL: Can Touch ID be hacked? Yes, fingerprint sensors have been around for at least two decades and have been hacked before. So, while Touch ID hasn't been hacked yet, that probably owes more to the device not being publicly available yet than anything else. As the iPhone 5S proliferates, expect creative and disturbing methods of hacking the fingerprint sensor to arise. Hopefully, would-be thieves won't start carrying cigar cutters around. Does Touch ID use two-factor authentication? No. Touch ID is not considered two-factor authentication because there is no second authorization technique that's required to use it. It's possible that Apple could expand the feature in the future to include stronger security, but one of the appeals of Touch ID, like the Windows 8 picture login, is that it requires the security input only once. There are still many questions that remain about Touch ID's implementation, including how people will use it and how developers will incorporate it. A big unknown for Apple's bottom line is whether businesses will consider this safer for the bring your own device movement, and demand that their employees have it. And it's not going to eliminate passwords -- at least, not on its own. Apple is not the first major smartphone maker to incorporate a biometric sensor into a device. Motorola did it with the Atrix but it bombed. What we know about Apple's Touch ID (FAQ) | Apple - CNET News http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57602318-37/what-we-know-about-apples-touch-id-faq/ Joseph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Touch Id's possible weaknesses
Hi, I can't wait to try this feature. I doubt it will be more hackable than using a password, and it's tiring entering a password every time I want to use my iPhone. Best, Anna On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But if you found it not to be reliable, wouldn’t you just turn it off? You would have lost nothing by trying it for your self. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: If I had the iphone 5s, I would probably not use this feature, it's still very new and I would be concerned about how reliable it was. Original message: Hi all, Here's an interesting article I just bumped into in regards to the new IOS7's Touch ID. The article concerns what touch id can and cannot deliver. See below for link to article URL: Can Touch ID be hacked? Yes, fingerprint sensors have been around for at least two decades and have been hacked before. So, while Touch ID hasn't been hacked yet, that probably owes more to the device not being publicly available yet than anything else. As the iPhone 5S proliferates, expect creative and disturbing methods of hacking the fingerprint sensor to arise. Hopefully, would-be thieves won't start carrying cigar cutters around. Does Touch ID use two-factor authentication? No. Touch ID is not considered two-factor authentication because there is no second authorization technique that's required to use it. It's possible that Apple could expand the feature in the future to include stronger security, but one of the appeals of Touch ID, like the Windows 8 picture login, is that it requires the security input only once. There are still many questions that remain about Touch ID's implementation, including how people will use it and how developers will incorporate it. A big unknown for Apple's bottom line is whether businesses will consider this safer for the bring your own device movement, and demand that their employees have it. And it's not going to eliminate passwords -- at least, not on its own. Apple is not the first major smartphone maker to incorporate a biometric sensor into a device. Motorola did it with the Atrix but it bombed. What we know about Apple's Touch ID (FAQ) | Apple - CNET News http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57602318-37/what-we-know-about-apples-touch-id-faq/ Joseph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You
