Re: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future?
hi, I would agree this is basicly an expensive bluetooth keyboard layed out like a brail divice How ever small it might be. as I understand it. it does not do anything singaly like playing music or alarms. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 12:09 PM Subject: RE: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? Everybody has to decide how they want to use their iPhone and while it seems there is a bit of extra functionality, a lot of what this offers seems to be duplication and I definitely would not spend almost the same as what my iPhone costs for something like this. I wonder how it records phone calls and when it talks about playing MP3 and audio books, does it mean you use it to play via whatever app on your phone or is it also a stand-along MP3/audio book player where you have to transfer the book to it by hooking it up to your computer or inserting a SD card? It also mentions setting timers and alarms quickly and conveniently; not sure how much more convenient it gets beyond asking Siri to set a 5 minute timer or to set a 7 AM alarm.. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 2:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? The Rivo 3 is coming in April of 2023. The price is $799. www.rivo.me -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 11:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? Hello Dennis, actually i don't know braille, and i have android and apple devices. Therefore i wanted to have Rivo as daily driver to assist me in handling my phone outdoor. Its not encouraging that Rivo is sleeping over the queries of prospective buyers. On 11/21/22, Dennis Long wrote: I'm wondering if Rivo is still in business. I've emailed them and I saw someone else emailed them a few month ago and got no response. I also got no response. I strongly recommend you look at the Hable one. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? i would like to know about the next generation of RIVO keypad. If anyone has any clue, kindly let me know. I was going to buy RIVO2, but i just wanted to confirm whether RIVO3 is round the corner? -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zb0b6RBhL6j-cArwpf_sTzQA7kqQUnuQ6dRV4yDOqyug%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/025601d8fd0f%2459a286f0%240ce794d0%24%40gmail.com. -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for
RE: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future?
Everybody has to decide how they want to use their iPhone and while it seems there is a bit of extra functionality, a lot of what this offers seems to be duplication and I definitely would not spend almost the same as what my iPhone costs for something like this. I wonder how it records phone calls and when it talks about playing MP3 and audio books, does it mean you use it to play via whatever app on your phone or is it also a stand-along MP3/audio book player where you have to transfer the book to it by hooking it up to your computer or inserting a SD card? It also mentions setting timers and alarms quickly and conveniently; not sure how much more convenient it gets beyond asking Siri to set a 5 minute timer or to set a 7 AM alarm.. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2023 2:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? The Rivo 3 is coming in April of 2023. The price is $799. www.rivo.me -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 11:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? Hello Dennis, actually i don't know braille, and i have android and apple devices. Therefore i wanted to have Rivo as daily driver to assist me in handling my phone outdoor. Its not encouraging that Rivo is sleeping over the queries of prospective buyers. On 11/21/22, Dennis Long wrote: > I'm wondering if Rivo is still in business. I've emailed them and I > saw someone else emailed them a few month ago and got no response. I > also got no response. I strongly recommend you look at the Hable one. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? > > i would like to know about the next generation of RIVO keypad. If > anyone has any clue, kindly let me know. I was going to buy RIVO2, but > i just wanted to confirm whether RIVO3 is round the corner? > > -- > Mohib Anwar Rafay > > Phone: +91996464 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zb0b6RBhL6j-cArwpf_sTzQA7kqQUnuQ6dRV4yDOqyug%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/025601d8fd0f%2459a286f0%240ce794d0%24%40gmail.com. > -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
RE: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future?
The Rivo 3 is coming in April of 2023. The price is $799. www.rivo.me -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 11:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? Hello Dennis, actually i don't know braille, and i have android and apple devices. Therefore i wanted to have Rivo as daily driver to assist me in handling my phone outdoor. Its not encouraging that Rivo is sleeping over the queries of prospective buyers. On 11/21/22, Dennis Long wrote: > I'm wondering if Rivo is still in business. I've emailed them and I > saw someone else emailed them a few month ago and got no response. I > also got no response. I strongly recommend you look at the Hable one. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? > > i would like to know about the next generation of RIVO keypad. If > anyone has any clue, kindly let me know. I was going to buy RIVO2, but > i just wanted to confirm whether RIVO3 is round the corner? > > -- > Mohib Anwar Rafay > > Phone: +91996464 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zb0b6RBhL6j-cArwpf_sTzQA7kqQUnuQ6dRV4yDOqyug%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/025601d8fd0f%2459a286f0%240ce794d0%24%40gmail.com. > -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zPBzoKSHd7LCjEwyh3hhojPsR3Y658wq9LZFv0pg-3Tw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
RE: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future?
If it encourages you any I haven't typed braille in over 20 years and picked it up very quick. I can't recommend the Rivo anymore do to them no longer responding to peoples questions. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 11:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? Hello Dennis, actually i don't know braille, and i have android and apple devices. Therefore i wanted to have Rivo as daily driver to assist me in handling my phone outdoor. Its not encouraging that Rivo is sleeping over the queries of prospective buyers. On 11/21/22, Dennis Long wrote: > I'm wondering if Rivo is still in business. I've emailed them and I > saw someone else emailed them a few month ago and got no response. I > also got no response. I strongly recommend you look at the Hable one. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? > > i would like to know about the next generation of RIVO keypad. If > anyone has any clue, kindly let me know. I was going to buy RIVO2, but > i just wanted to confirm whether RIVO3 is round the corner? > > -- > Mohib Anwar Rafay > > Phone: +91996464 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zb0b6RBhL6j-cArwpf_sTzQA7kqQUnuQ6dRV4yDOqyug%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/025601d8fd0f%2459a286f0%240ce794d0%24%40gmail.com. > -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zPBzoKSHd7LCjEwyh3hhojPsR3Y658wq9LZFv0pg-3Tw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future?
Hello Dennis, actually i don't know braille, and i have android and apple devices. Therefore i wanted to have Rivo as daily driver to assist me in handling my phone outdoor. Its not encouraging that Rivo is sleeping over the queries of prospective buyers. On 11/21/22, Dennis Long wrote: > I'm wondering if Rivo is still in business. I've emailed them and I saw > someone else emailed them a few month ago and got no response. I also got > no response. I strongly recommend you look at the Hable one. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mohib > Anwar Rafay > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? > > i would like to know about the next generation of RIVO keypad. If anyone has > any clue, kindly let me know. I was going to buy RIVO2, but i just wanted to > confirm whether RIVO3 is round the corner? > > -- > Mohib Anwar Rafay > > Phone: +91996464 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zb0b6RBhL6j-cArwpf_sTzQA7kqQUnuQ6dRV4yDOqyug%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/025601d8fd0f%2459a286f0%240ce794d0%24%40gmail.com. > -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zPBzoKSHd7LCjEwyh3hhojPsR3Y658wq9LZFv0pg-3Tw%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future?
I'm wondering if Rivo is still in business. I've emailed them and I saw someone else emailed them a few month ago and got no response. I also got no response. I strongly recommend you look at the Hable one. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future? i would like to know about the next generation of RIVO keypad. If anyone has any clue, kindly let me know. I was going to buy RIVO2, but i just wanted to confirm whether RIVO3 is round the corner? -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zb0b6RBhL6j-cArwpf_sTzQA7kqQUnuQ6dRV4yDOqyug%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/025601d8fd0f%2459a286f0%240ce794d0%24%40gmail.com.
Any possibility of RIVO3 to come in near future?
i would like to know about the next generation of RIVO keypad. If anyone has any clue, kindly let me know. I was going to buy RIVO2, but i just wanted to confirm whether RIVO3 is round the corner? -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +91996464 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAMudc6zb0b6RBhL6j-cArwpf_sTzQA7kqQUnuQ6dRV4yDOqyug%40mail.gmail.com.