RE: Force return with a Braille display
I applied for a technology grant through the Colorado center for the Blind. character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! *** From: Rebecca Sabo Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 7:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display Hi all where do you start to get a brail display? Is their any loan program to afford one ? becky On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:49 AM, Robert Wright wrote: It seems that enter key and space bar coupled with the following keys locks Mac keys Dot 3 = control Dot 2 = option Dot 1 = command Dot 4 = shift Dot 5 = fn Back space + space bar and those keys only announces what the key is. character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! *** From: Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've never heard of it before. Richard "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! > > I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit > dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit > space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. > > Thank you for your guys help. > Traci > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: >> >> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should >> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option >> enter. >> >> Jenn and Kumi >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> >>https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0. >> For more options, visit >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > >https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > em
Re: Force return with a Braille display
Correct, according to the user guide. As an FYI, you press select+down, that's select and down together. > On 9 Nov 2018, at 14:37, Holly Anderson wrote: > > The orbit has something called buffer mode which allows you to type text and > then send it to the iPhone. It can only be 255 characters I think, something > like that. > Holly > >> On Nov 9, 2018, at 2:11 AM, Robert Wright wrote: >> >> Is the Braille edge the only device that has: >> 4.5 Terminal Clipboard >> >> Terminal Clipboard allows you to create and edit text on the Braille EDGE >> before sending it via the Terminal for Screen Reader to the connected >> device. This can be useful in instances like when using VoiceOver on an >> i-device, in which characters are translated as they are sent to the IPhone >> or iPad. In this case, if you do not type quickly, characters may be >> mistranslated. For example: if you type "t e l l" and do not type quickly >> enough, VoiceOver could potentially translate this as "thateverylikelike" >> as, if there are pauses in typing, each Braille character can potentially be >> translated to its whole word equivalent. In the same way, editing text is >> also difficult as, any letter or single character Braille contraction, when >> typed by itself is translated as that contraction. So, if you are attempting >> to type the word "talk", and accidentally type "tall", when you delete the l >> and type the k the k is translated as "knowledge". Thus, the text you get is >> "talknowledge". To truly fix the word, you must erase the entire word and >> type it again. >> Thus, creating/editing text when using a Braille display is sometimes a very >> exact and tedious business. As explained above, the Terminal Clipboard >> allows you to create and edit text on the Braille EDGE and send the >> completed text to the connected computer or SmartPhone via the Terminal for >> Screen reader. >> To enter "Terminal Clipboard", press "Space-enter-I(dots 2-4)". The Braille >> EDGE displays "Terminal Clipboard", and places you in an edit box. Type and >> edit your text using normal text entry and edit commands. In "Terminal >> Clipboard", the Braille display and keyboard are temporarily disabled from >> sending/receiving information to/from your connected computer or i-device, >> so that you may use them for creating/editing your text. >> >> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! >> *** >> >> From: Anna Dresner >> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:42 PM >> To: VIPhone Mailing List >> Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display >> >> Hi, >> >> You don't have to lock the Option key. You can press dot 2 with dot 7 and >> the spacebar and then do a Return (dot 8). If you use dot 7 with dot 2, it >> lets you enter one character and then unlocks the Option key again. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >> >> >> > On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. >> > I've never heard of it before. >> > Richard >> > >> > >> > >> > "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good >> > books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> > >> >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: >> >> >> >> *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! >> >> >> >> I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I >> >> hit dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need >> >> to hit space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. >> >> >> >> Thank you for your guys help. >> >> Traci >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: >> >>> >> >>> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that >> >>> should force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard >> >>> is option enter. >> >>> >> >>> Jenn and Kumi >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> >>>
Re: Force return with a Braille display
The orbit has something called buffer mode which allows you to type text and then send it to the iPhone. It can only be 255 characters I think, something like that. Holly > On Nov 9, 2018, at 2:11 AM, Robert Wright wrote: > > Is the Braille edge the only device that has: > 4.5 Terminal Clipboard > > Terminal Clipboard allows you to create and edit text on the Braille EDGE > before sending it via the Terminal for Screen Reader to the connected device. > This can be useful in instances like when using VoiceOver on an i-device, in > which characters are translated as they are sent to the IPhone or iPad. In > this case, if you do not type quickly, characters may be mistranslated. For > example: if you type "t e l l" and do not type quickly enough, VoiceOver > could potentially translate this as "thateverylikelike" as, if there are > pauses in typing, each Braille character can potentially be translated to its > whole word equivalent. In the same way, editing text is also difficult as, > any letter or single character Braille contraction, when typed by itself is > translated as that contraction. So, if you are attempting to type the word > "talk", and accidentally type "tall", when you delete the l and type the k > the k is translated as "knowledge". Thus, the text you get is "talknowledge". > To truly fix the word, you must erase the entire word and type it again. > Thus, creating/editing text when using a Braille display is sometimes a very > exact and tedious business. As explained above, the Terminal Clipboard allows > you to create and edit text on the Braille EDGE and send the completed text > to the connected computer or SmartPhone via the Terminal for Screen reader. > To enter "Terminal Clipboard", press "Space-enter-I(dots 2-4)". The Braille > EDGE displays "Terminal Clipboard", and places you in an edit box. Type and > edit your text using normal text entry and edit commands. In "Terminal > Clipboard", the Braille display and keyboard are temporarily disabled from > sending/receiving information to/from your connected computer or i-device, so > that you may use them for creating/editing your text. > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! > > *** > > From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net> > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:42 PM > To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display > > Hi, > > You don't have to lock the Option key. You can press dot 2 with dot 7 and the > spacebar and then do a Return (dot 8). If you use dot 7 with dot 2, it lets > you enter one character and then unlocks the Option key again. > > Best, > Anna > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner > > wrote: > > > > > > I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've > > never heard of it before. > > Richard > > > > > > > > "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books > > which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > >> > >> *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! > >> > >> I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I > >> hit dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need > >> to hit space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. > >> > >> Thank you for your guys help. > >> Traci > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: > >>> > >>> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that > >>> should force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is > >>> option enter. > >>> > >>> Jenn and Kumi > >>> > >>> -- > >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > >>> list. > >>> > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >>> > >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you
Re: Force return with a Braille display
I am going to start a new thread called acquiring help to get a braille display. Richard "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Nov 9, 2018, at 6:16 AM, Rebecca Sabo mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all where do you start to get a brail display? Is their any loan program to afford one ? becky On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:49 AM, Robert Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote: It seems that enter key and space bar coupled with the following keys locks Mac keys Dot 3 = control Dot 2 = option Dot 1 = command Dot 4 = shift Dot 5 = fn Back space + space bar and those keys only announces what the key is. character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! *** From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've never heard of it before. Richard "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan > mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! > > I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit > dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit > space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. > > Thank you for your guys help. > Traci > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie >> mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should >> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option >> enter. >> >> Jenn and Kumi >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C310aa227083f424c209a08d6464defc6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636773697875961610=2IgUk8g6dP7bbDCYXwOZ%2FSJdeLa5D5WEHhPYCCc1NGc%3D=0> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphone=02%7C01%7C%7C310aa227083f424c209a08d6464defc6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636773697875961610=5gDdv05utoTLATgiNbTnFNQPlnoX6Q1aj9Mq9EuyqzU%3D=0>. >> For more options, visit >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptout=02%7C01%7C%7C310aa227083f424c209a08d6464defc6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636773697875961610=KQEeKJ6%2B5dH
Re: Force return with a Braille display
Hi all where do you start to get a brail display? Is their any loan program to afford one ? becky > On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:49 AM, Robert Wright wrote: > > It seems that enter key and space bar coupled with the following keys locks > Mac keys > Dot 3 = control > Dot 2 = option > Dot 1 = command > Dot 4 = shift > Dot 5 = fn > > Back space + space bar and those keys only announces what the key is. > > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! > > *** > > From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:17 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display > > > I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've > never heard of it before. > Richard > > > > "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books > which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan > <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! > > > > I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I > > hit dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to > > hit space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. > > > > Thank you for your guys help. > > Traci > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie >> <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should > >> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option > >> enter. > >> > >> Jenn and Kumi > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > >> list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - > >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 > >> > >> <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0> > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "VIPhone" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com > >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. > >> Visit this group at > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0 > >> > >> <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0>. > >> For more options, visit > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0 > >> >
RE: Force return with a Braille display
It seems that enter key and space bar coupled with the following keys locks Mac keys Dot 3 = control Dot 2 = option Dot 1 = command Dot 4 = shift Dot 5 = fn Back space + space bar and those keys only announces what the key is. character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! *** From: Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've never heard of it before. Richard "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! > > I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit > dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit > space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. > > Thank you for your guys help. > Traci > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: >> >> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should >> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option >> enter. >> >> Jenn and Kumi >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0. >> For more options, visit >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0. > For more options, visit > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/
RE: Force return with a Braille display
Is the Braille edge the only device that has: 4.5 Terminal Clipboard Terminal Clipboard allows you to create and edit text on the Braille EDGE before sending it via the Terminal for Screen Reader to the connected device. This can be useful in instances like when using VoiceOver on an i-device, in which characters are translated as they are sent to the IPhone or iPad. In this case, if you do not type quickly, characters may be mistranslated. For example: if you type "t e l l" and do not type quickly enough, VoiceOver could potentially translate this as "thateverylikelike" as, if there are pauses in typing, each Braille character can potentially be translated to its whole word equivalent. In the same way, editing text is also difficult as, any letter or single character Braille contraction, when typed by itself is translated as that contraction. So, if you are attempting to type the word "talk", and accidentally type "tall", when you delete the l and type the k the k is translated as "knowledge". Thus, the text you get is "talknowledge". To truly fix the word, you must erase the entire word and type it again. Thus, creating/editing text when using a Braille display is sometimes a very exact and tedious business. As explained above, the Terminal Clipboard allows you to create and edit text on the Braille EDGE and send the completed text to the connected computer or SmartPhone via the Terminal for Screen reader. To enter "Terminal Clipboard", press "Space-enter-I(dots 2-4)". The Braille EDGE displays "Terminal Clipboard", and places you in an edit box. Type and edit your text using normal text entry and edit commands. In "Terminal Clipboard", the Braille display and keyboard are temporarily disabled from sending/receiving information to/from your connected computer or i-device, so that you may use them for creating/editing your text. character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! *** From: Anna Dresner Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:42 PM To: VIPhone Mailing List Subject: Re: Force return with a Braille display Hi, You don't have to lock the Option key. You can press dot 2 with dot 7 and the spacebar and then do a Return (dot 8). If you use dot 7 with dot 2, it lets you enter one character and then unlocks the Option key again. Best, Anna > On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've > never heard of it before. > Richard > > > > "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books > which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: >> >> *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! >> >> I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit >> dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit >> space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. >> >> Thank you for your guys help. >> Traci >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: >>> >>> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should >>> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option >>> enter. >>> >>> Jenn and Kumi >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to
Re: Force return with a Braille display
Hi, You don't have to lock the Option key. You can press dot 2 with dot 7 and the spacebar and then do a Return (dot 8). If you use dot 7 with dot 2, it lets you enter one character and then unlocks the Option key again. Best, Anna > On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've > never heard of it before. > Richard > > > > "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books > which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: >> >> *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! >> >> I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit >> dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit >> space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. >> >> Thank you for your guys help. >> Traci >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: >>> >>> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should >>> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option >>> enter. >>> >>> Jenn and Kumi >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0. >>> For more options, visit >>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0. >> For more options, visit >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
Re: Force return with a Braille display
I am going to add that to my list of Keyboard commands. That is great. I've never heard of it before. Richard "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > On Nov 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > *Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! > > I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit > dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit > space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. > > Thank you for your guys help. > Traci > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: >> >> If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should >> force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option >> enter. >> >> Jenn and Kumi >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0. >> For more options, visit >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=ODqj4Kp6uMIDj%2BFawrvXCGKNbqc6BeGO80QQBeT4nVs%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphonedata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=0%2FS9P5AvmBv9oSnUY2xaYTU2SwST1ufGIafuVAKQT78%3Dreserved=0. > For more options, visit > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptoutdata=02%7C01%7C%7C5eaca293ae6c48aead4c08d645aa29ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636772994475045676sdata=UrGpSjezswVMDkUiX%2FUaoDaNzK58dOnqozmow83Eezk%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you
Re: Force return with a Braille display
*Claps hands! Option key is the ticket! I hit the spacebar plus dots 8 and 2. This locked the option key, then I hit dot 8 to force a hard return. To continue typing as normal, you need to hit space bar dots 8 and 2 again, to unlock the option key. Thank you for your guys help. Traci Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Jennie wrote: > > If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should > force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option > enter. > > Jenn and Kumi > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Force return with a Braille display
If you press dots 7 and whatever the option key is plus enter, that should force a return. That is how you do it with a Bluetooth keyboard is option enter. Jenn and Kumi -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
