RE: Fwd: [New post] 'Shockingly bad' Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps
Hi I'm an android user and I am totally blind and I, not being a particularly tetchy person don't have any problems at all using the android platform. I think the problem is that a lot of Apple users who look at the android platform think it should work in the same way but its completely different. The thing is that there's a choice out there and those of us who choose the android platform shouldn't be slagged off so lets just accept that there are two very stable platforms out there and accept it. Debbie -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Fwd: [New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps
I have never found that the Droid system has been easy to use from playing with my brother's phone. In fact, I have found it to be clumbsy and awkward to navigate. Having stated that, I've not really learned how to use it either and am just starting to do some homework on it now. I am hoping that things improve before the time comes for me to decide. I think the problem here is that Apple had raised the bar so high that we are all upset and disappointed when things fall apart, as we should be. And yes, I still think Steve J is a huge loss and even if the system was not good to start with, it became far superior to anything out there on his watch. In fact, my very first computer that I could use with good functionality way back in the early 80's was the Apple IIe or IIc, can't remember which. That was before MS really had much out there that was accessible and if IBM did, it was very costly. So I think the apple founders truly did have accessibility as a priority from the start. I do think that one person can make a big difference in what a company does, its policies and its priorities, especially if the person happen to be in Mr. J's position. That's my take on the Steve J issue, a huge loss and too young. This new person in charge needs to step up to the plate, fix what is broken and quit tinkering with that stupid watch. Mary Anne On 11/19/2014 9:49 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, Google obviously never releases extremely bug-ridden software like Apple does, right? (see the below message). Begin forwarded message: *From:* MacDailyNews comment-re...@wordpress.com mailto:comment-re...@wordpress.com *Date:* 20 November 2014 14:59:33 NZDT *To:* dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *Subject:* *[New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps* *Reply-To:* MacDailyNews comment+e60benyponb65mhj-j_lcs...@comment.wordpress.com mailto:comment+e60benyponb65mhj-j_lcs...@comment.wordpress.com WordPress.com MacDailyNews posted: [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Early adopters of Google's latest Android operating system are warning others of problems with the software, Leo Kelion reports for The Beeb. Issues include the update causing Nexus 7 tablets to run slowly and repeatedly cra Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on *MacDailyNews* http://macdailynews.com/author/macdailynews/ ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps http://macdailynews.com/2014/11/19/shockingly-bad-google-android-5-0-lollipop-update-bricks-phones-tablets-kills-apps/ by MacDailyNews http://macdailynews.com/author/macdailynews/ [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Early adopters of Google's latest Android operating system are warning others of problems with the software, Leo Kelion reports for The Beeb. Issues include the update causing Nexus 7 tablets to run slowly and repeatedly crash, with several users complaining they had become 'unusable.' *MacDailyNews Take: *Even more so than usual, apparently. The code also appears to remove apps built with Adobe Air and then prevent them from being reinstalled, Kelion reports. Dozens of messages posted to Google's own forums suggest that owners of the 2012 version of the Nexus 7, in particular, are experiencing headaches. 'Some apps won't work and some crash. I wish I didn't install the update,' wrote Kristen Sawyer. Another user, nicknamed StretchToo said: 'Chrome is dead, unusable, Firefox just about works, the keyboard takes over a minute to load, nearly works if you hunt and peck but dies if you try to swipe.' 'Updated and the Nexus is [so] shockingly bad it is basically unusable, lags just rotating the screen, every task takes 10 seconds to perform if it does it [at all],' wrote Gary Looker, Kelion reports. Several Android Lollipop users have also highlighted compatibility problems with Air-based apps... Reports elsewhere suggest some users are experiencing problems with text messages, the way contacts are managed, and wi-fi connectivity. *Read more in the full article here http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30116319.* *MacDailyNews Take: *It's well past time to stop settling for inferior wares and get the iPhone 6, 6 Plus, iPad Air 2, and/or iPad mini that you really wanted but stupidly tried to approximate, fragmandroid settlers. Pry open thou eyes, casteth aside thine darkness and cometh-hither into the light! [Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader buddabob for the heads up.] *Related articles:* Apple posts new how-to guide: Switching from Android phone to iPhone http://macdailynews.com/2014/09/16/apple-posts-new-how-to-guide-switching-from-android-phone-to-iphone/ - September 16, 2014 Reviewers fall all over themselves to praise Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6/Plus
RE: Fwd: [New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps
Hi Mary Anne, I would almost bet that this stupid watch as you called it was already discussed when Steve Jobbs was still around. Anyhow, companies like Apple do have to make products people want and wearable computers is going to be a big market. We have the technology to put a lot of computing power into very small devices so now that companies are coming up with good user interfaces to harness that power, wearable devices are a logical progression. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Lynskey Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps I have never found that the Droid system has been easy to use from playing with my brother's phone. In fact, I have found it to be clumbsy and awkward to navigate. Having stated that, I've not really learned how to use it either and am just starting to do some homework on it now. I am hoping that things improve before the time comes for me to decide. I think the problem here is that Apple had raised the bar so high that we are all upset and disappointed when things fall apart, as we should be. And yes, I still think Steve J is a huge loss and even if the system was not good to start with, it became far superior to anything out there on his watch. In fact, my very first computer that I could use with good functionality way back in the early 80's was the Apple IIe or IIc, can't remember which. That was before MS really had much out there that was accessible and if IBM did, it was very costly. So I think the apple founders truly did have accessibility as a priority from the start. I do think that one person can make a big difference in what a company does, its policies and its priorities, especially if the person happen to be in Mr. J's position. That's my take on the Steve J issue, a huge loss and too young. This new person in charge needs to step up to the plate, fix what is broken and quit tinkering with that stupid watch. Mary Anne On 11/19/2014 9:49 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, Google obviously never releases extremely bug-ridden software like Apple does, right? (see the below message). Begin forwarded message: *From:* MacDailyNews comment-re...@wordpress.com mailto:comment-re...@wordpress.com *Date:* 20 November 2014 14:59:33 NZDT *To:* dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *Subject:* *[New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps* *Reply-To:* MacDailyNews comment+e60benyponb65mhj-j_lcs...@comment.wordpress.com mailto:comment+e60benyponb65mhj-j_lcs...@comment.wordpress.com WordPress.com MacDailyNews posted: [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Early adopters of Google's latest Android operating system are warning others of problems with the software, Leo Kelion reports for The Beeb. Issues include the update causing Nexus 7 tablets to run slowly and repeatedly cra Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on *MacDailyNews* http://macdailynews.com/author/macdailynews/ ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps http://macdailynews.com/2014/11/19/shockingly-bad-google-android-5-0 -lollipop-update-bricks-phones-tablets-kills-apps/ by MacDailyNews http://macdailynews.com/author/macdailynews/ [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Early adopters of Google's latest Android operating system are warning others of problems with the software, Leo Kelion reports for The Beeb. Issues include the update causing Nexus 7 tablets to run slowly and repeatedly crash, with several users complaining they had become 'unusable.' *MacDailyNews Take: *Even more so than usual, apparently. The code also appears to remove apps built with Adobe Air and then prevent them from being reinstalled, Kelion reports. Dozens of messages posted to Google's own forums suggest that owners of the 2012 version of the Nexus 7, in particular, are experiencing headaches. 'Some apps won't work and some crash. I wish I didn't install the update,' wrote Kristen Sawyer. Another user, nicknamed StretchToo said: 'Chrome is dead, unusable, Firefox just about works, the keyboard takes over a minute to load, nearly works if you hunt and peck but dies if you try to swipe.' 'Updated and the Nexus is [so] shockingly bad it is basically unusable, lags just rotating the screen, every task takes 10 seconds to perform if it does it [at all],' wrote Gary Looker, Kelion reports. Several Android Lollipop users have also highlighted compatibility problems with Air-based apps... Reports elsewhere suggest some users are experiencing problems with text messages, the way contacts are managed, and wi-fi connectivity. *Read more in the full
Re: Fwd: [New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps
I'm pretty sure the Apple II was accessible because a few 3rd party applications were developed for the Apple II making it accessible. I don't think it was accessible out of the box. I know you needed the Outspoken screen reader from Berkley Systems to make the early Macs accessible, and there was a time between the demise of Berkley Systems and Apple's development of VoiceOver when the Macs weren't accessible at all. Of course, the early iPods and the first iPhones weren't accessible. I'm not taking anything away from Apple and it's commitment to accessibility, but I don't think it goes back to the founding of the company. If anything it's commitment to accessibility after already having established and successful products out there is even more impressive. Android does take some getting used to, but so does the iPhone. I'm not going to say that Android accessibility is on par with the iPhone, but the Samsung Galaxy S5 does a pretty good job. I don't think I'm in danger of giving up my iPhone any time soon, but I do think these lingering IOS bugs do close the gap a bit. I mean if Android had the same bugs I'm seeing in IOS 8 then iPhone user's would be holding them up as reasons why iPhone accessibility is better. On 11/20/2014 03:29 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey wrote: I have never found that the Droid system has been easy to use from playing with my brother's phone. In fact, I have found it to be clumbsy and awkward to navigate. Having stated that, I've not really learned how to use it either and am just starting to do some homework on it now. I am hoping that things improve before the time comes for me to decide. I think the problem here is that Apple had raised the bar so high that we are all upset and disappointed when things fall apart, as we should be. And yes, I still think Steve J is a huge loss and even if the system was not good to start with, it became far superior to anything out there on his watch. In fact, my very first computer that I could use with good functionality way back in the early 80's was the Apple IIe or IIc, can't remember which. That was before MS really had much out there that was accessible and if IBM did, it was very costly. So I think the apple founders truly did have accessibility as a priority from the start. I do think that one person can make a big difference in what a company does, its policies and its priorities, especially if the person happen to be in Mr. J's position. That's my take on the Steve J issue, a huge loss and too young. This new person in charge needs to step up to the plate, fix what is broken and quit tinkering with that stupid watch. Mary Anne On 11/19/2014 9:49 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Well, Google obviously never releases extremely bug-ridden software like Apple does, right? (see the below message). Begin forwarded message: *From:* MacDailyNews comment-re...@wordpress.com mailto:comment-re...@wordpress.com *Date:* 20 November 2014 14:59:33 NZDT *To:* dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com *Subject:* *[New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps* *Reply-To:* MacDailyNews comment+e60benyponb65mhj-j_lcs...@comment.wordpress.com mailto:comment+e60benyponb65mhj-j_lcs...@comment.wordpress.com WordPress.com MacDailyNews posted: [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Early adopters of Google's latest Android operating system are warning others of problems with the software, Leo Kelion reports for The Beeb. Issues include the update causing Nexus 7 tablets to run slowly and repeatedly cra Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on *MacDailyNews* http://macdailynews.com/author/macdailynews/ ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps http://macdailynews.com/2014/11/19/shockingly-bad-google-android-5-0-lollipop-update-bricks-phones-tablets-kills-apps/ by MacDailyNews http://macdailynews.com/author/macdailynews/ [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Early adopters of Google's latest Android operating system are warning others of problems with the software, Leo Kelion reports for The Beeb. Issues include the update causing Nexus 7 tablets to run slowly and repeatedly crash, with several users complaining they had become 'unusable.' *MacDailyNews Take: *Even more so than usual, apparently. The code also appears to remove apps built with Adobe Air and then prevent them from being reinstalled, Kelion reports. Dozens of messages posted to Google's own forums suggest that owners of the 2012 version of the Nexus 7, in particular, are experiencing headaches. 'Some apps won't work and some crash. I wish I didn't install the update,' wrote Kristen Sawyer. Another user, nicknamed StretchToo said: 'Chrome is dead, unusable, Firefox just about works, the keyboard takes over a minute to load, nearly works if you hunt and peck but dies if you try to swipe.' 'Updated and the Nexus is [so] shockingly bad it is basically
Fwd: [New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps
Well, Google obviously never releases extremely bug-ridden software like Apple does, right? (see the below message). Begin forwarded message: From: MacDailyNews comment-re...@wordpress.com Date: 20 November 2014 14:59:33 NZDT To: dchitten...@gmail.com Subject: [New post] ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps Reply-To: MacDailyNews comment+e60benyponb65mhj-j_lcs...@comment.wordpress.com Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on MacDailyNews ‘Shockingly bad’ Google Android 5.0 Lollipop update bricks phones, tablets; kills apps by MacDailyNews [cfsp key=adsense_336x280]Early adopters of Google's latest Android operating system are warning others of problems with the software, Leo Kelion reports for The Beeb. Issues include the update causing Nexus 7 tablets to run slowly and repeatedly crash, with several users complaining they had become 'unusable.' MacDailyNews Take: Even more so than usual, apparently. The code also appears to remove apps built with Adobe Air and then prevent them from being reinstalled, Kelion reports. Dozens of messages posted to Google's own forums suggest that owners of the 2012 version of the Nexus 7, in particular, are experiencing headaches. 'Some apps won't work and some crash. I wish I didn't install the update,' wrote Kristen Sawyer. Another user, nicknamed StretchToo said: 'Chrome is dead, unusable, Firefox just about works, the keyboard takes over a minute to load, nearly works if you hunt and peck but dies if you try to swipe.' 'Updated and the Nexus is [so] shockingly bad it is basically unusable, lags just rotating the screen, every task takes 10 seconds to perform if it does it [at all],' wrote Gary Looker, Kelion reports. Several Android Lollipop users have also highlighted compatibility problems with Air-based apps... Reports elsewhere suggest some users are experiencing problems with text messages, the way contacts are managed, and wi-fi connectivity. Read more in the full article here. MacDailyNews Take: It's well past time to stop settling for inferior wares and get the iPhone 6, 6 Plus, iPad Air 2, and/or iPad mini that you really wanted but stupidly tried to approximate, fragmandroid settlers. Pry open thou eyes, casteth aside thine darkness and cometh-hither into the light! [Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader buddabob for the heads up.] Related articles: Apple posts new how-to guide: Switching from Android phone to iPhone - September 16, 2014 Reviewers fall all over themselves to praise Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6/Plus - September 17, 2014 iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus tested at Disneyland: ‘So badass’ - September 17, 2014 Re/code reviews Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6 Plus: ‘A statement phone,’ not a ‘plastic toy’ - September 17, 2014 Megapixels mean nothing: Apple iPhone 6 trounces Samsung Galaxy S5 in camera shootout - September 17, 2014 The Telegraph reviews Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6 Plus: ‘It’s peerless’ - September 17, 2014 TechCrunch reviews Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6: ‘The best smartphone available’ - September 17, 2014 USA Today’s Baig reviews Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6/Plus: ‘Smartphone stars’ - September 17, 2014 Walt Mossberg reviews Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6: ‘The best smartphone on the market’ - September 16, 2014 The Wall Street Journal reviews Apple’s 64-bit iPhone 6: ‘The best smartphone you can buy’ - September 16, 2014 Macworld reviews 64-bit iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus: Bigger is better (in the right hands) - September 16, 2014 MacDailyNews | Wednesday, November 19, 2014 at 8:59 pm | Tags: android, App Store knockoffs, App Store roadkill, App Store wannabes, Apple, crappy Android phones, crappy Android tablets, Fragmandroid, google, iOS knockoffs, iOS roadkill, iOS wannabes, iPad knockoffs, iPad roadkill, iPad wannabes, iPhone knockoffs, iPhone roadkill, iPhone wannabes, Lillipop, patent infringement, trade dress infringement | Categories: News | URL: http://wp.me/p19WFc-BYs Comment See all comments Unsubscribe to no longer receive posts from MacDailyNews. Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://macdailynews.com/2014/11/19/shockingly-bad-google-android-5-0-lollipop-update-bricks-phones-tablets-kills-apps/ Thanks for flying with WordPress.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at
