RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
I most definitely agree with not getting an SE. -Original Message- From: realman02 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments I agree with not getting an SE. If you get a later model it will be supported longer by apple. You'r einvesting in a phone that should last you seveal years. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments For how much longer will this model be supported? Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver wrote: > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and > greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would > be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is > substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would > not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, > you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and > chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. > Fred Olver - Original Message - > From: "Terri Stimmel" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and > > opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with > > them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do > > it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. > > It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade > > now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. > > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the > > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this > > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, > > if I ever want to upgrade. > > > > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service > > message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I > > could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me > > thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know > > some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me. > > > > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these > > sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to > > appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of > > this list. > > > > > > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want > > to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see > > which one I might be most comfortable with. > > > > > > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would > > know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. > > That would just be too large of a device for me. > > > > > > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. > > > > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? > > > > > > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of > > charging. I know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual > > charging blocks, because I have so many devices, that this just > > works better for me. Or, I have friends that come over, who need to charge > > their stuff. > > > > > > I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the > > camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for > > it's camera. > > > > > > However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. > > I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more > > than that though. I am still not always the best at taking a > > picture. I hope that this might improve in time. I just don't always > > understand how, or where to aim the camera. > > > > > > Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have > > now, to the 14 pro, or the
RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
I'd probably check the 15 Pro. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments For how much longer will this model be supported? Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver wrote: > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and > greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would > be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is > substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would > not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, > you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and > chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. > Fred Olver - Original Message - > From: "Terri Stimmel" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and > > opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with > > them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do > > it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. > > It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade > > now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. > > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the > > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this > > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, > > if I ever want to upgrade. > > > > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service > > message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I > > could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me > > thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know > > some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me. > > > > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these > > sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to > > appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of > > this list. > > > > > > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want > > to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see > > which one I might be most comfortable with. > > > > > > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would > > know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. > > That would just be too large of a device for me. > > > > > > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. > > > > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? > > > > > > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of > > charging. I know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual > > charging blocks, because I have so many devices, that this just > > works better for me. Or, I have friends that come over, who need to charge > > their stuff. > > > > > > I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the > > camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for > > it's camera. > > > > > > However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. > > I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more > > than that though. I am still not always the best at taking a > > picture. I hope that this might improve in time. I just don't always > > understand how, or where to aim the camera. > > > > > > Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have > > now, to the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? > > > > > > I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of > > course, I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store. > > > > > > What do you all think? > > > > Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. > > > > > > Thank you, > > >
Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
In fact the iPhone 8 models will not take iOS 17. That’s why I am replacing my 8 Plus with a 15 Pro imminently. That’s along with the fact I no longer have the rubberized protector or holster case. Got five years out of that phone. I’ll probably try to get that order completed later today. Bill Outman Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Kathy Blackburn wrote: > > The person whose message preceded mine suggested Terri get an SE second > generation. I'm running an iPhone 8. I like being able to use touch ID, as I > think it's more discreet than face ID: just my opinion. My phone is still > doing what I need it to do, but I don't think there will be many more > updates. > > Kathy Blackburn > kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 1:53 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: >> >> First, Kathy, if you are asking how long the 12 mini will be supported, no >> one knows exactly other than maybe Apple; however, considering the XR is a >> couple years older than the 12 mini and it is able to run iOS 17, I would >> guess the 12 mini will be supported for at least 2 more years, if not more. >> >> Terri asked a lot of questions. >> First, as far as I can tell, for object identification and OCR the new 48 >> pixel camera in the 15 pro won't make those functions any better. The >> higher the pixels perhaps the better the picture for someone sighted but for >> the kind of stuff most blind people need, you do not need that level of >> camera. >> >> I would check with Apple about the USBC cable that will come with the 15 >> models to find out if the end that goes into the charging block is also >> USBC, which I suspect it is. That would mean you need a charging block with >> the USBC port not the standard USB A port. >> >> Note, the chip in the 15 and 15 plus is the same chip as in the 14 pro, so >> if that is at all important to you, it will be less expensive to go with the >> 14 pro if you decide to upgrade this year. >> >> I personally have the 13 pro and see nothing to make me want to upgrade to >> the 15 pro. I'll probably stick with this phone for several years and will >> replace the battery when the time comes. >> >> That is what I can remember to address in your questions. >> Most decisions to upgrade are based on exactly what features you want. >> >> HTH, >> >> >> >> Richard, USA. >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” >> -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy >> Blackburn >> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 11:38 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments >> >> For how much longer will this model be supported? >> >> Kathy Blackburn >> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver >> wrote: >>> >>> Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and >>> greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would >>> be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is >>> substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would >>> not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, >>> you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and >>> chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. >>> Fred Olver - Original Message - >>> From: "Terri Stimmel" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM >>> Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments >>> >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and >>>> opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with >>>> them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. >>>> >>>> >>>> I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do >>>> it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. >>>> It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. >>>> >>>> >>>> However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade >>>> now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another
RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
The person whose message preceded mine suggested Terri get an SE second generation. I'm running an iPhone 8. I like being able to use touch ID, as I think it's more discreet than face ID: just my opinion. My phone is still doing what I need it to do, but I don't think there will be many more updates. Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 1:53 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > > First, Kathy, if you are asking how long the 12 mini will be supported, no > one knows exactly other than maybe Apple; however, considering the XR is a > couple years older than the 12 mini and it is able to run iOS 17, I would > guess the 12 mini will be supported for at least 2 more years, if not more. > > Terri asked a lot of questions. > First, as far as I can tell, for object identification and OCR the new 48 > pixel camera in the 15 pro won't make those functions any better. The higher > the pixels perhaps the better the picture for someone sighted but for the > kind of stuff most blind people need, you do not need that level of camera. > > I would check with Apple about the USBC cable that will come with the 15 > models to find out if the end that goes into the charging block is also USBC, > which I suspect it is. That would mean you need a charging block with the > USBC port not the standard USB A port. > > Note, the chip in the 15 and 15 plus is the same chip as in the 14 pro, so if > that is at all important to you, it will be less expensive to go with the 14 > pro if you decide to upgrade this year. > > I personally have the 13 pro and see nothing to make me want to upgrade to > the 15 pro. I'll probably stick with this phone for several years and will > replace the battery when the time comes. > > That is what I can remember to address in your questions. > Most decisions to upgrade are based on exactly what features you want. > > HTH, > > > > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy > Blackburn > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 11:38 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > For how much longer will this model be supported? > > Kathy Blackburn > kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver > wrote: > > > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and > > greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would > > be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is > > substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would > > not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, > > you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and > > chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. > > Fred Olver - Original Message - > > From: "Terri Stimmel" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and > > > opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with > > > them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > > > > > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do > > > it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. > > > It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > > > > > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade > > > now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or > > > so. > > > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the > > > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this > > > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, > > > if I ever want to upgrade. > > > > > > > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service > > > message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I > > > could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me > > > thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > > > > > > > I would be interes
Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
Apple also offers you a 14 day return with no restocking fees. So if you are not happy you can return the phone, and get something else. I guess it really always depends on the location, how the associates may be but I have been on both sides being the employee and the customer. There is no commission so it really makes no sense to pressure you into a purchase. Just go in if you can, and play with the devices. That's truly the only way to know what will work for you. On 9/24/23, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Terri, > > I think you will really enjoy either a 14 or 15 model. Off the top of my > head, I would say go with the new 15 series. > > I am more concerned that you have a positive experience while visiting the > Apple store than what you may or may not purchase. > > So, my suggestions are: > > 1. > Make certain that you give yourself plenty of time to explore all of the > devices about which you are interested. Generally speaking, unless you know > exactly what you want, I would plan on spending about 2-hours at the Apple > Store. Remember, I am basing this on Los Angeles area locations. > > 2. > Make certain that you are comfortable with the Apple associate who helps > you. For example, some associates speak very fast or may seem to be > impatient. If you find that you are not comfortable with the associate, be > kind and gracious and, blaming no one, ask if there is another associate > available.On more than one occasion, I have had to ask for a different > associate because I could not understand the associate because of extremely > rapid speech or, more often than not, they continued to address my sighted > companion, instead of me. Granted, such things do not happen, often but > they do happen and you must be prepared to deal with them. Remember, it is > your time and your money and you must stay in control of the situation. > > 3. > If you have them, be certain to take a pair of wired Ear pods with you. > More often than not, the store will be very noisy and you will definitely > want to use a headset when testing. > > 4. > Do not feel compelled to purchase a new phone just because you are in the > store. Fewer retail experiences are worse than buyer's remorse. > > Okay, good luck and please let us know how it goes. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Terri > Stimmel > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 10:23 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > Hello everyone, > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions > on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. > I always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. > I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still > works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, > it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if > I ever want to upgrade. > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message > on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do > that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is > just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some > of this will be opinion. That is fine by me. > > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts > of things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate > over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. > > > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to > hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which > one I might be most comfortable with. > > > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would > know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That > would just be too large of a device for me. > > > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. > > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? > > > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I > know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, > because I have so many devices, that this just works b
RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
Hello Terri, I think you will really enjoy either a 14 or 15 model. Off the top of my head, I would say go with the new 15 series. I am more concerned that you have a positive experience while visiting the Apple store than what you may or may not purchase. So, my suggestions are: 1. Make certain that you give yourself plenty of time to explore all of the devices about which you are interested. Generally speaking, unless you know exactly what you want, I would plan on spending about 2-hours at the Apple Store. Remember, I am basing this on Los Angeles area locations. 2. Make certain that you are comfortable with the Apple associate who helps you. For example, some associates speak very fast or may seem to be impatient. If you find that you are not comfortable with the associate, be kind and gracious and, blaming no one, ask if there is another associate available.On more than one occasion, I have had to ask for a different associate because I could not understand the associate because of extremely rapid speech or, more often than not, they continued to address my sighted companion, instead of me. Granted, such things do not happen, often but they do happen and you must be prepared to deal with them. Remember, it is your time and your money and you must stay in control of the situation. 3. If you have them, be certain to take a pair of wired Ear pods with you. More often than not, the store will be very noisy and you will definitely want to use a headset when testing. 4. Do not feel compelled to purchase a new phone just because you are in the store. Fewer retail experiences are worse than buyer's remorse. Okay, good luck and please let us know how it goes. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 10:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments Hello everyone, First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want to upgrade. My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me. However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I might be most comfortable with. I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would just be too large of a device for me. I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, because I have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I have friends that come over, who need to charge their stuff. I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's camera. However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than that though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope that this might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or where to aim the camera. Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store. What do you all think? Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important
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I agree with Richard, I won't be upgrading my iPhone any time soon either. I've got the 13 pro max the one terabyte model and it is working great. I updated to 17.01 today with no issues. I didn't have any problems changing the variations of the eloquence voices, or the Tom, or Alex voice that I tested. Man, if you want, you can really increase the Tambor of the Tom voice and make him sound very weird. I've just got to download the 2 new British Siri voices and I'll be set. On 9/24/23, Richard Turner wrote: > First, Kathy, if you are asking how long the 12 mini will be supported, no > one knows exactly other than maybe Apple; however, considering the XR is a > couple years older than the 12 mini and it is able to run iOS 17, I would > guess the 12 mini will be supported for at least 2 more years, if not more. > > Terri asked a lot of questions. > First, as far as I can tell, for object identification and OCR the new 48 > pixel camera in the 15 pro won't make those functions any better. The > higher the pixels perhaps the better the picture for someone sighted but for > the kind of stuff most blind people need, you do not need that level of > camera. > > I would check with Apple about the USBC cable that will come with the 15 > models to find out if the end that goes into the charging block is also > USBC, which I suspect it is. That would mean you need a charging block with > the USBC port not the standard USB A port. > > Note, the chip in the 15 and 15 plus is the same chip as in the 14 pro, so > if that is at all important to you, it will be less expensive to go with the > 14 pro if you decide to upgrade this year. > > I personally have the 13 pro and see nothing to make me want to upgrade to > the 15 pro. I'll probably stick with this phone for several years and will > replace the battery when the time comes. > > That is what I can remember to address in your questions. > Most decisions to upgrade are based on exactly what features you want. > > HTH, > > > > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy > Blackburn > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 11:38 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > For how much longer will this model be supported? > > Kathy Blackburn > kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver > wrote: >> >> Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and >> greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would >> be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is >> substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would >> not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, >> you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and >> chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. >> Fred Olver - Original Message - >> From: "Terri Stimmel" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM >> Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments >> >> >> > Hello everyone, >> > >> > >> > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and >> > opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with >> > them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. >> > >> > >> > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do >> > it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. >> > It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. >> > >> > >> > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade >> > now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or >> > so. >> > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the >> > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this >> > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, >> > if I ever want to upgrade. >> > >> > >> > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service >> > message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I >> > could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me >> > thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. >> > >> > >> > I would be interested
RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
First, Kathy, if you are asking how long the 12 mini will be supported, no one knows exactly other than maybe Apple; however, considering the XR is a couple years older than the 12 mini and it is able to run iOS 17, I would guess the 12 mini will be supported for at least 2 more years, if not more. Terri asked a lot of questions. First, as far as I can tell, for object identification and OCR the new 48 pixel camera in the 15 pro won't make those functions any better. The higher the pixels perhaps the better the picture for someone sighted but for the kind of stuff most blind people need, you do not need that level of camera. I would check with Apple about the USBC cable that will come with the 15 models to find out if the end that goes into the charging block is also USBC, which I suspect it is. That would mean you need a charging block with the USBC port not the standard USB A port. Note, the chip in the 15 and 15 plus is the same chip as in the 14 pro, so if that is at all important to you, it will be less expensive to go with the 14 pro if you decide to upgrade this year. I personally have the 13 pro and see nothing to make me want to upgrade to the 15 pro. I'll probably stick with this phone for several years and will replace the battery when the time comes. That is what I can remember to address in your questions. Most decisions to upgrade are based on exactly what features you want. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 11:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments For how much longer will this model be supported? Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver wrote: > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and > greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would > be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is > substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would > not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, > you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and > chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. > Fred Olver - Original Message - > From: "Terri Stimmel" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and > > opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with > > them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do > > it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. > > It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade > > now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. > > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the > > cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this > > phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, > > if I ever want to upgrade. > > > > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service > > message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I > > could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me > > thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know > > some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me. > > > > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these > > sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to > > appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of > > this list. > > > > > > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want > > to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see > > which one I might be most comfortable with. > > > > > > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would > > know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. > > That would just be too large of a device for me. > > > > > > I real
Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
So what chip is in the second generation SE? Compared to the 12 mini? If they’re very close to the same, I don’t think it would be worth it to purchase an SE. That phone might go out of Support at about the same time as your 12 mini. I have a 10 r, and I’m expecting that next year it won’t get an upgrade to the newest OS. If you purchased a 15, you would have it for five years of use, based on Apple‘s track record of how long iPhones get updated. I’m quite sure that the second generation se is not going to get five more years of updates. So, I guess it’s up to you depending on the difference in the cost. But if it was me, I would get a 15 if I couldn’t swing a 15 pro. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Fred Olver wrote: > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and greatest, > please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would be for you to > invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is substantially less > than any of the more modern phones and you would not be sacrificing very much > in terms of optical recognition. Also, you would be able to continue to use > your various charging devices and chords because the S.E. has the lightning > port. > Fred Olver - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions >> on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. >> I always find this sort of stuff helpful. >> >> >> I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I >> love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still >> works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. >> >> >> However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, it >> would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. Right >> now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost of my >> next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But this is >> the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want to upgrade. >> >> >> My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on >> it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, and >> use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just better to >> go ahead and do the upgrade instead. >> >> >> I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of >> this will be opinion. That is fine by me. >> >> However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of >> things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over >> the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. >> >> >> I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold >> the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I >> might be most comfortable with. >> >> >> I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know >> all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would >> just be too large of a device for me. >> >> >> I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. >> >> However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? >> >> >> I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I >> know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, because >> I have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I have >> friends that come over, who need to charge their stuff. >> >> >> I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the camera. >> I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's camera. >> >> >> However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. I >> use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than that >> though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope that this >> might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or where to aim >> the camera. >> >> >> Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to >> the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? >> >> >> I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, I >> won't know reall
RE: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
I agree with not getting an SE. If you get a later model it will be supported longer by apple. You'r einvesting in a phone that should last you seveal years. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments For how much longer will this model be supported? Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver wrote: > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and greatest, > please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would be for you to > invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is substantially less > than any of the more modern phones and you would not be sacrificing very > much in terms of optical recognition. Also, you would be able to continue to > use your various charging devices and chords because the S.E. has the > lightning port. > Fred Olver - Original Message - > From: "Terri Stimmel" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions > > on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the > > stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I > > love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still > > works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, > > it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. > > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost > > of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But > > this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want > > to upgrade. > > > > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on > > it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, > > and use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just > > better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of > > this will be opinion. That is fine by me. > > > > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of > > things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over > > the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. > > > > > > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold > > the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I > > might be most comfortable with. > > > > > > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know > > all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would > > just be too large of a device for me. > > > > > > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. > > > > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? > > > > > > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I > > know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, > > because I have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I > > have friends that come over, who need to charge their stuff. > > > > > > I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the > > camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's > > camera. > > > > > > However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. > > I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than > > that though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope > > that this might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or > > where to aim the camera. > > > > > > Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to > > the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? > > > > > > I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, > > I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store. > > > > > > What do you all think? > > > > Any thoughts,
Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
Hi Terri, I hesitate to offer advice on these sort of questions since they are subjectively and economically dependent. I understand your battery issue and don't disagree that something needs to be done. But I'm a huge fan of my iPhone 13 Mini and the plain fact is that getting a Mini in the future will be all but impossible unless you want a used device. I would encourage you to get a feel for the size of the phones you're considering since I expect they will feel substantially different from your 12 Mini. And you should know that a 15 Plus is the same physical size as the 15 Pro Max. I'm going to disagree with Fred that you should consider one of the SE models whether the second or third generation. I don't think someone who has gotten used to a device without a home button should return to one with one. I hope you find something you like and get it at a very good price. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Terri Stimmel > wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions on > the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. I > always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I > love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still works > quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, it > would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. Right now, > I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost of my next > phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But this is the > way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want to upgrade. > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on it, > that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, and use > this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just better to go > ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of > this will be opinion. That is fine by me. > > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of > things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over the > years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. > > > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold > the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I > might be most comfortable with. > > > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know all > of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would just be > too large of a device for me. > > > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. > > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? > > > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I know > I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, because I > have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I have friends > that come over, who need to charge their stuff. > > > I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the camera. I > never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's camera. > > > However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. I > use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than that > though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope that this > might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or where to aim > the camera. > > > Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to the > 14 pro, or the 15 pro? > > > I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, I > won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store. > > > What do you all think? > > Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To
Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
Hi Terry, I wouldn’t recommend getting an SE because I’m pretty sure it uses an older chip than either the iPhone 14 Pro or any of the iPhone 15s. The newer the chip you buy, the longer your phone is likely to get updates. Also, I don’t think the SE has the ability for precision finding using AirTags and such. USBC charging could be nice, as lots of devices use it. Also, if you have AirPods or an Apple Watch, you can apparently charge them from your phone, which could be nice in a pinch. I would recommend the iPhone 14 Pro over the 15, since they use the same chip, the Pro models have LIDAR, and the camera on both is really good. The 15 Pro has a newer chip, though, and USBC charging, so it is definitely worth considering. Good luck, Anna > On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:58 PM, Fred Olver wrote: > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and greatest, > please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would be for you to > invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is substantially less > than any of the more modern phones and you would not be sacrificing very much > in terms of optical recognition. Also, you would be able to continue to use > your various charging devices and chords because the S.E. has the lightning > port. > Fred Olver - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions >> on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. >> I always find this sort of stuff helpful. >> >> >> I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I >> love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still >> works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. >> >> >> However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, it >> would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. Right >> now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost of my >> next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But this is >> the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want to upgrade. >> >> >> My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on >> it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, and >> use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just better to >> go ahead and do the upgrade instead. >> >> >> I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of >> this will be opinion. That is fine by me. >> >> However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of >> things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over >> the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. >> >> >> I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold >> the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I >> might be most comfortable with. >> >> >> I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know >> all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would >> just be too large of a device for me. >> >> >> I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. >> >> However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? >> >> >> I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I >> know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, because >> I have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I have >> friends that come over, who need to charge their stuff. >> >> >> I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the camera. >> I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's camera. >> >> >> However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. I >> use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than that >> though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope that this >> might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or where to aim >> the camera. >> >> >> Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to >> the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? >> >> >> I really want to make the best choice
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For how much longer will this model be supported? Kathy Blackburn kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 24, 2023 12:58 PM, Fred Olver wrote: > > Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and greatest, > please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would be for you to > invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is substantially less > than any of the more modern phones and you would not be sacrificing very > much in terms of optical recognition. Also, you would be able to continue to > use your various charging devices and chords because the S.E. has the > lightning port. > Fred Olver - Original Message - > From: "Terri Stimmel" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM > Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions > > on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the > > stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. > > > > > > I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I > > love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still > > works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. > > > > > > However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, > > it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. > > Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost > > of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But > > this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want > > to upgrade. > > > > > > My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on > > it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, > > and use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just > > better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. > > > > > > I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of > > this will be opinion. That is fine by me. > > > > However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of > > things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over > > the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. > > > > > > I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold > > the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I > > might be most comfortable with. > > > > > > I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know > > all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would > > just be too large of a device for me. > > > > > > I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. > > > > However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? > > > > > > I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I > > know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, > > because I have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I > > have friends that come over, who need to charge their stuff. > > > > > > I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the > > camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's > > camera. > > > > > > However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. > > I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than > > that though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope > > that this might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or > > where to aim the camera. > > > > > > Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to > > the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? > > > > > > I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, > > I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store. > > > > > > What do you all think? > > > > Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Terri > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > > if you feel that a membe
Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
Terri, Since I don't feel it necessary to have the latest and greatest, please try and understand my bias. My personal choice would be for you to invest in the second generation IPhone S.E. The cost is substantially less than any of the more modern phones and you would not be sacrificing very much in terms of optical recognition. Also, you would be able to continue to use your various charging devices and chords because the S.E. has the lightning port. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" To: Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:23 PM Subject: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments Hello everyone, First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want to upgrade. My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me. However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I might be most comfortable with. I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would just be too large of a device for me. I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, because I have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I have friends that come over, who need to charge their stuff. I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's camera. However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than that though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope that this might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or where to aim the camera. Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store. What do you all think? Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BY3PR05MB89227B72AE9BDCC63D7D72B7A8FDA%40BY3PR05MB8922.namprd05.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can
Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments
Hello everyone, First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions on the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. I always find this sort of stuff helpful. I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still works quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it. However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, it would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. Right now, I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost of my next phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But this is the way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want to upgrade. My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on it, that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, and use this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just better to go ahead and do the upgrade instead. I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of this will be opinion. That is fine by me. However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over the years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list. I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I might be most comfortable with. I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know all of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would just be too large of a device for me. I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging. However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need? I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I know I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, because I have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I have friends that come over, who need to charge their stuff. I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the camera. I never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's camera. However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. I use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than that though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope that this might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or where to aim the camera. Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to the 14 pro, or the 15 pro? I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, I won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store. What do you all think? Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BY3PR05MB89227B72AE9BDCC63D7D72B7A8FDA%40BY3PR05MB8922.namprd05.prod.outlook.com.
