Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

2021-05-22 Thread Kelly Pierce
Congratulations Steve on your upgrade to a 12. I am looking forward to
replacing my 7 with a 2021 iPhone Mini when they come out.  When you
switched phones in the past, did you do a phone to phone transfer or a
transfer with iCloud or a computer backup.  A few years ago, Apple
introduced the means to transfer data with a new phone just by putting
it next to the old phone.  Both phones need to be on Wi-Fi and running
the same major version of iOS, such as iOS 14. A friend of mine did
this and he was able to essentially clone his phone and transfer all
music, videos and photos.

Kelly



On 5/21/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Joshua,
> I believe that allowing the syncing of BARD books from the cloud is on
> the roadmap from NLS. I'm not sure when this is supposed to happen. I
> could speculate and say within the next couple of years. You aren't
> the only one in this position, of wanting your books to sync across
> devices like they do in Audible. Regarding Voice Dream Reader, I know
> that you can enable the syncing of books from the cloud. I'm not sure
> where this is located, likely in Settings, so I'll let someone else
> address that. When I get a new device and VDR is fully downloaded on
> my new phone, if I open the app I see messages that my books and
> material are downloading or updating. I've got some BookShare titles,
> and I didn't lose them when I went from the 10R to the 11 last year.
>
> Hth,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 5/21/21, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> Larry.  No one seems to get this point.  Of course I know my books
>> would still have been on bard.  However, why should I have to
>> redownload all those books again.  I really hope in the future the
>> folks at NLS can find a solution to this problem.  I mean, its not
>> like at audible where you have your audible library and you can either
>> stream or download your books.
>>
>> On 5/21/21, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>> The books would still have been on bard for re-download.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:52 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data
>>>
>>> I don't know about voice dream reader, but I know with bard mobile at
>>> this
>>> time, there isn't a thing you can do about it.  I've got over
>>> 1400 bard books on bard mobile.  That is the main reason why when my
>>> lower
>>> speaker went out on my iPhone 8, I didn't get it replaced with a new
>>> one.
>>> I
>>> have apple care plus, so it wouldn't have cost me a thing to get a new
>>> iPhone 8.  I'm not going to lose all those bard books I got over the
>>> past
>>> 2
>>> years.  If I had gotten a new iPhone 8, I would have had to send back my
>>> current iPhone 8 which would have meant, all my bard books in bard
>>> mobile
>>> would have been gone.
>>>
>>> On 5/21/21, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>>>> When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD
>>>> Mobile and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to
>>>> my current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading
>>>> to the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment
>>>> plan, which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the
>>>> trade-in price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't
>>>> lose my VDR and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is
>>>> checked? To that end, in the list of applications that will be backed
>>>> up, both BARD and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw
>>>> ill be backed up is minuscule compared to what I know is really in
>>>> there--about seventy braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio
>>>> content
>>>> in VDR.
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Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

2021-05-21 Thread Wayne Merritt
Joshua,
I believe that allowing the syncing of BARD books from the cloud is on
the roadmap from NLS. I'm not sure when this is supposed to happen. I
could speculate and say within the next couple of years. You aren't
the only one in this position, of wanting your books to sync across
devices like they do in Audible. Regarding Voice Dream Reader, I know
that you can enable the syncing of books from the cloud. I'm not sure
where this is located, likely in Settings, so I'll let someone else
address that. When I get a new device and VDR is fully downloaded on
my new phone, if I open the app I see messages that my books and
material are downloading or updating. I've got some BookShare titles,
and I didn't lose them when I went from the 10R to the 11 last year.

Hth,
Wayne Merritt

On 5/21/21, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> Larry.  No one seems to get this point.  Of course I know my books
> would still have been on bard.  However, why should I have to
> redownload all those books again.  I really hope in the future the
> folks at NLS can find a solution to this problem.  I mean, its not
> like at audible where you have your audible library and you can either
> stream or download your books.
>
> On 5/21/21, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> The books would still have been on bard for re-download.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data
>>
>> I don't know about voice dream reader, but I know with bard mobile at
>> this
>> time, there isn't a thing you can do about it.  I've got over
>> 1400 bard books on bard mobile.  That is the main reason why when my
>> lower
>> speaker went out on my iPhone 8, I didn't get it replaced with a new one.
>> I
>> have apple care plus, so it wouldn't have cost me a thing to get a new
>> iPhone 8.  I'm not going to lose all those bard books I got over the past
>> 2
>> years.  If I had gotten a new iPhone 8, I would have had to send back my
>> current iPhone 8 which would have meant, all my bard books in bard mobile
>> would have been gone.
>>
>> On 5/21/21, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>>> When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD
>>> Mobile and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to
>>> my current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading
>>> to the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment
>>> plan, which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the
>>> trade-in price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't
>>> lose my VDR and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is
>>> checked? To that end, in the list of applications that will be backed
>>> up, both BARD and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw
>>> ill be backed up is minuscule compared to what I know is really in
>>> there--about seventy braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio content
>>> in VDR.
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Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

2021-05-21 Thread Alan Lemly
Steve,

Unfortunately, whenever you change to a new iDevice, you lose all the content 
in BARD Mobile that was on the old device regardless of that device's backup 
status. NLS is aware of this issue and is working toward a conversion to the 
cloud which will address it along with making other features also available. 
However, this process is going to take quite a while to complete.

I've never lost content in Voice Dream Reader when I've upgraded to a new 
device but I've always had both an iCloud wifi backup as well as an encrypted 
iTunes backup on my local computer.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Steve 
Matzura 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:14:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD Mobile
and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to my
current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading to
the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment plan,
which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the trade-in
price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't lose my VDR
and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is checked? To
that end, in the list of applications that will be backed up, both BARD
and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw ill be backed up
is minuscule compared to what I know is really in there--about seventy
braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio content in VDR.

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Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

2021-05-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Larry.  No one seems to get this point.  Of course I know my books
would still have been on bard.  However, why should I have to
redownload all those books again.  I really hope in the future the
folks at NLS can find a solution to this problem.  I mean, its not
like at audible where you have your audible library and you can either
stream or download your books.

On 5/21/21, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> The books would still have been on bard for re-download.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data
>
> I don't know about voice dream reader, but I know with bard mobile at this
> time, there isn't a thing you can do about it.  I've got over
> 1400 bard books on bard mobile.  That is the main reason why when my lower
> speaker went out on my iPhone 8, I didn't get it replaced with a new one.  I
> have apple care plus, so it wouldn't have cost me a thing to get a new
> iPhone 8.  I'm not going to lose all those bard books I got over the past 2
> years.  If I had gotten a new iPhone 8, I would have had to send back my
> current iPhone 8 which would have meant, all my bard books in bard mobile
> would have been gone.
>
> On 5/21/21, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>> When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD
>> Mobile and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to
>> my current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading
>> to the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment
>> plan, which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the
>> trade-in price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't
>> lose my VDR and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is
>> checked? To that end, in the list of applications that will be backed
>> up, both BARD and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw
>> ill be backed up is minuscule compared to what I know is really in
>> there--about seventy braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio content
>> in VDR.
>>
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RE: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

2021-05-21 Thread Larry Lumpkin
The books would still have been on bard for re-download.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

I don't know about voice dream reader, but I know with bard mobile at this 
time, there isn't a thing you can do about it.  I've got over
1400 bard books on bard mobile.  That is the main reason why when my lower 
speaker went out on my iPhone 8, I didn't get it replaced with a new one.  I 
have apple care plus, so it wouldn't have cost me a thing to get a new iPhone 
8.  I'm not going to lose all those bard books I got over the past 2 years.  If 
I had gotten a new iPhone 8, I would have had to send back my current iPhone 8 
which would have meant, all my bard books in bard mobile would have been gone.

On 5/21/21, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD 
> Mobile and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to 
> my current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading 
> to the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment 
> plan, which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the 
> trade-in price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't 
> lose my VDR and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is 
> checked? To that end, in the list of applications that will be backed 
> up, both BARD and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw 
> ill be backed up is minuscule compared to what I know is really in 
> there--about seventy braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio content in 
> VDR.
>
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Re: Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

2021-05-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I don't know about voice dream reader, but I know with bard mobile at
this time, there isn't a thing you can do about it.  I've got over
1400 bard books on bard mobile.  That is the main reason why when my
lower speaker went out on my iPhone 8, I didn't get it replaced with a
new one.  I have apple care plus, so it wouldn't have cost me a thing
to get a new iPhone 8.  I'm not going to lose all those bard books I
got over the past 2 years.  If I had gotten a new iPhone 8, I would
have had to send back my current iPhone 8 which would have meant, all
my bard books in bard mobile would have been gone.

On 5/21/21, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD Mobile
> and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to my
> current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading to
> the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment plan,
> which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the trade-in
> price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't lose my VDR
> and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is checked? To
> that end, in the list of applications that will be backed up, both BARD
> and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw ill be backed up
> is minuscule compared to what I know is really in there--about seventy
> braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio content in VDR.
>
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Question About iPhone Backups and Losing Data

2021-05-21 Thread Steve Matzura
When I moved from an iPhone 6 to an 8, I lost everything in BARD Mobile 
and I think Voice Dream Reader. Then, when I went from an 8 to my 
current 10 XS, it happened *AGAIN*! Today, I learned that upgrading to 
the 12 Pro Max is a simple phone swap and a reset on my payment plan, 
which was a nice surprise, so I'll probably do it before the trade-in 
price of the 10 XS drops! What can I do to make sure I don't lose my VDR 
and BARD books and mas? Not that somethin  sure a box is checked? To 
that end, in the list of applications that will be backed up, both BARD 
and VDR are checked, but the amount of data they showw ill be backed up 
is minuscule compared to what I know is really in there--about seventy 
braille ma in BARD and about 2.5GB of audio content in VDR.


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