RE: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-04 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Thanks. That explanation is very helpful

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.

No, you can't get rid of the rotor, but you can either use it or not.
It's like the 2-finger double tap or, for that matter, any gesture, you can't 
get rid of the 2-finger double tap to answer or hang up a call or to start or 
pause playback, but you can use it or not use it.
Turning the rotor clockwise or counter-clockwise is simply a way to get to 
certain options faster. 
Think of it as a continuous dial on a device, let's say to keep it simple, you 
have a washing machine with a knob and you can turn the knob either clockwise 
or counter-clockwise. Let's further assume there are 12 washing programs on the 
dial, each at a position of the hour, e.g. let's say 12 o'clock is "Normal", 1 
o'clock is "Permanent Press, 2 o'clock is Delicates etc. Let's further assume 
10 o'clock is for Wool and 11 o'clock for Silk.
Now, if you want Delicates you would turn your knob clockwise to the 2 o'clock 
position, if you wanted Silk you can continue to turn it all the way around to 
11 o'clock, or you can turn it back counter-clockwise to 11 o'clock which would 
be much faster if you are either on the 12 o'clock position (just one click 
back) or even if you are on the 1, 2, 3 or 4 o'clock positions.
Now, let's assume your rotor is set to "Characters, if you turn it clockwise 
you get Words, Links, Headings, Buttons, Volume, Speed etc.
So, if you want to go from Characters to Volume, you have to turn the rotor 
clockwise, put 2 fingers on the screen and given them a bit of a twist, you 
will hear "Words", lift them up and do it again, you get Links, then you do it 
again and you get headings, then buttons and finally you get to Volume.
Now you can flick up or down with one finger to change the volume. If you want 
to read word by word in an email or text message, turn the rotor until you get 
to words, then flick down with one finger and Voiceover reads word by word 
going forward, if you want to go back a few words, flick  up a few times. If 
you get to a word which you want to spell letter by letter, you have to turn 
the rotor to the left or counter-clockwise because the Characters option is 
before Words, put 2 fingers on the screen and give them a bit of a twist, but 
as if you were turning a knob counter-clockwise, Voiceover will say 
"Characters", then you can flick down with one finger and instead of reading 
the entire word Voiceover will read character by vcharacter.
If you are on a website you can turn the rotor to heading and then if you flick 
down Voiceover will jump from heading to heading just as if you were to push 
the letter "h" on the keyboard for most screenreaders.
You can always go into Voiceover Settings and to the practice area and  
practice turning the rotor. The unfortunate part is that in iOS 13 there is a 
fair bit of inconsistency in the rotor. For example, I was reading an email 
with a table and I turned the rotor to the left to "Rows" which allows you to 
go down the table row by row I fyou flick down. In this case the table had 
columns for Description, item number, quantity ordered and price. If you are on 
the description column and go to rows and then flick down it goes down the 
table in that column, if I flick right it goes across the row to item number, 
quantity and price. Then if I flick left back to description that is fine, but 
now if I want to go down another row the rotor has lost it's position and I 
have to first turn it back to rows and it sometimes drives me crazy how 
inconsistent that is. I think in cases where you are in an email the rotor 
should simply stay where I put it and not revert to some default which requires 
me to continuously put it back to where I want it.
The point is, however, that you don't have to dismiss the rotor or anything 
like that, it's like on a keyboard, if I use the arrow keys to arrow around a 
document and I then want to write something I simply take my hands off the 
arrow keys and start typing, I don't have to do anything to get rid of the 
arrow keys and similarly with the rotor you just don't turn it if you don't 
want to.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.

OK, so if I've been using Rotor, just do counterclockwise to be rid of it, and 
if I want it, clockwise knob so that it works for me? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Su

RE: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
No, you can't get rid of the rotor, but you can either use it or not.
It's like the 2-finger double tap or, for that matter, any gesture, you can't 
get rid of the 2-finger double tap to answer or hang up a call or to start or 
pause playback, but you can use it or not use it.
Turning the rotor clockwise or counter-clockwise is simply a way to get to 
certain options faster. 
Think of it as a continuous dial on a device, let's say to keep it simple, you 
have a washing machine with a knob and you can turn the knob either clockwise 
or counter-clockwise. Let's further assume there are 12 washing programs on the 
dial, each at a position of the hour, e.g. let's say 12 o'clock is "Normal", 1 
o'clock is "Permanent Press, 2 o'clock is Delicates etc. Let's further assume 
10 o'clock is for Wool and 11 o'clock for Silk.
Now, if you want Delicates you would turn your knob clockwise to the 2 o'clock 
position, if you wanted Silk you can continue to turn it all the way around to 
11 o'clock, or you can turn it back counter-clockwise to 11 o'clock which would 
be much faster if you are either on the 12 o'clock position (just one click 
back) or even if you are on the 1, 2, 3 or 4 o'clock positions.
Now, let's assume your rotor is set to "Characters, if you turn it clockwise 
you get Words, Links, Headings, Buttons, Volume, Speed etc.
So, if you want to go from Characters to Volume, you have to turn the rotor 
clockwise, put 2 fingers on the screen and given them a bit of a twist, you 
will hear "Words", lift them up and do it again, you get Links, then you do it 
again and you get headings, then buttons and finally you get to Volume.
Now you can flick up or down with one finger to change the volume. If you want 
to read word by word in an email or text message, turn the rotor until you get 
to words, then flick down with one finger and Voiceover reads word by word 
going forward, if you want to go back a few words, flick  up a few times. If 
you get to a word which you want to spell letter by letter, you have to turn 
the rotor to the left or counter-clockwise because the Characters option is 
before Words, put 2 fingers on the screen and give them a bit of a twist, but 
as if you were turning a knob counter-clockwise, Voiceover will say 
"Characters", then you can flick down with one finger and instead of reading 
the entire word Voiceover will read character by vcharacter.
If you are on a website you can turn the rotor to heading and then if you flick 
down Voiceover will jump from heading to heading just as if you were to push 
the letter "h" on the keyboard for most screenreaders.
You can always go into Voiceover Settings and to the practice area and  
practice turning the rotor. The unfortunate part is that in iOS 13 there is a 
fair bit of inconsistency in the rotor. For example, I was reading an email 
with a table and I turned the rotor to the left to "Rows" which allows you to 
go down the table row by row I fyou flick down. In this case the table had 
columns for Description, item number, quantity ordered and price. If you are on 
the description column and go to rows and then flick down it goes down the 
table in that column, if I flick right it goes across the row to item number, 
quantity and price. Then if I flick left back to description that is fine, but 
now if I want to go down another row the rotor has lost it's position and I 
have to first turn it back to rows and it sometimes drives me crazy how 
inconsistent that is. I think in cases where you are in an email the rotor 
should simply stay where I put it and not revert to some default which requires 
me to continuously put it back to where I want it.
The point is, however, that you don't have to dismiss the rotor or anything 
like that, it's like on a keyboard, if I use the arrow keys to arrow around a 
document and I then want to write something I simply take my hands off the 
arrow keys and start typing, I don't have to do anything to get rid of the 
arrow keys and similarly with the rotor you just don't turn it if you don't 
want to.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.

OK, so if I've been using Rotor, just do counterclockwise to be rid of it, and 
if I want it, clockwise knob so that it works for me? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 1:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.


When you want it you turn the figurative knob, i.e. you make a sort of turning 
gesture with two fingers on the screen a bit apart, you can turn clockwise or 
counter-clockwise. If you don't want to change anything in the rotor, don't 
turn it.


-Ori

Re: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-04 Thread alia robinson
no, if you turn it either way it will go back and forwards through the choices.

On Oct 4, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

OK, so if I've been using Rotor, just do counterclockwise to be rid of it, and 
if I want it, clockwise knob so that it works for me? 

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RE: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-04 Thread Carolyn Arnold
OK, so if I've been using Rotor, just do counterclockwise to be rid of it, and 
if I want it, clockwise knob so that it works for me? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 1:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.


When you want it you turn the figurative knob, i.e. you make a sort of turning 
gesture with two fingers on the screen a bit apart, you can turn clockwise or 
counter-clockwise. If you don't want to change anything in the rotor, don't 
turn it.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.

Thanks, Anna. How do I get it when I want it, and not have it, when I don't? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about Rotor.

Hi Carolyn,

the rotor is a way to choose how to navigate. Pretend there's a knob between 
two fingers and twist the knob left or right to move through the choices. When 
you find the one you want, flick up or down to move backward or forward by that 
element. So to move by headings, you would turn the rotor to headings and then 
flick down to go to the next one or up to go to the previous one.

HTH,
Anna




> On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I don't really understand Rotor. What do I do when I want it, and 
> then, what do I do if I don't want its interference?
> 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
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RE: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-04 Thread Tom Rash
This gesture is not hard, but is a bit confusing until you do it.  Think of it 
as putting two fingers on the screen and moving one up and one down 
simultaneously.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 10:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.


When you want it you turn the figurative knob, i.e. you make a sort of turning 
gesture with two fingers on the screen a bit apart, you can turn clockwise or 
counter-clockwise. If you don't want to change anything in the rotor, don't 
turn it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.

Thanks, Anna. How do I get it when I want it, and not have it, when I don't? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about Rotor.

Hi Carolyn,

the rotor is a way to choose how to navigate. Pretend there's a knob between 
two fingers and twist the knob left or right to move through the choices. When 
you find the one you want, flick up or down to move backward or forward by that 
element. So to move by headings, you would turn the rotor to headings and then 
flick down to go to the next one or up to go to the previous one.

HTH,
Anna




> On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I don't really understand Rotor. What do I do when I want it, and 
> then, what do I do if I don't want its interference?
> 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
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RE: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel


When you want it you turn the figurative knob, i.e. you make a sort of turning 
gesture with two fingers on the screen a bit apart, you can turn clockwise or 
counter-clockwise. If you don't want to change anything in the rotor, don't 
turn it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Rotor.

Thanks, Anna. How do I get it when I want it, and not have it, when I don't? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about Rotor.

Hi Carolyn,

the rotor is a way to choose how to navigate. Pretend there's a knob between 
two fingers and twist the knob left or right to move through the choices. When 
you find the one you want, flick up or down to move backward or forward by that 
element. So to move by headings, you would turn the rotor to headings and then 
flick down to go to the next one or up to go to the previous one.

HTH,
Anna




> On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I don't really understand Rotor. What do I do when I want it, and 
> then, what do I do if I don't want its interference?
> 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
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RE: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-03 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Thanks, Anna. How do I get it when I want it, and not have it, when I don't? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: Re: Question about Rotor.

Hi Carolyn,

the rotor is a way to choose how to navigate. Pretend there's a knob between 
two fingers and twist the knob left or right to move through the choices. When 
you find the one you want, flick up or down to move backward or forward by that 
element. So to move by headings, you would turn the rotor to headings and then 
flick down to go to the next one or up to go to the previous one.

HTH,
Anna




> On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I don't really understand Rotor. What do I do when I want it, and 
> then, what do I do if I don't want its interference?
> 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
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Re: Question about Rotor.

2019-10-03 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Carolyn,

the rotor is a way to choose how to navigate. Pretend there's a knob between 
two fingers and twist the knob left or right to move through the choices. When 
you find the one you want, flick up or down to move backward or forward by that 
element. So to move by headings, you would turn the rotor to headings and then 
flick down to go to the next one or up to go to the previous one.

HTH,
Anna




> On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> I don't really understand Rotor. What do I do when I want
> it, and then, what do I do if I don't want its interference?
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> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
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Question about Rotor.

2019-10-03 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I don't really understand Rotor. What do I do when I want
it, and then, what do I do if I don't want its interference?


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Carolyn

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