Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Maria Reyes]

Hey Kitty how were you able to pair your Polaris with your phone? While at my 
rehab center I tried out a Polaris, but couldn't get it paired to my phone. I 
used the terminal for screen readers.

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> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:09 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> I have the focus 14 fifth generation.  It has basic note taking capability 
> and pairs beautifully with the IPhone.  The pairing is stable and consistent. 
> I've had it for almost 3 months and only had to re-pair it with the phone 
> once and that may have been computer operator error.  I must say that I got 
> it more as a note taker, but find that I'm using it a lot more with the phone 
> than I thought I would.  The 14 cell display is not really that difficult for 
> me to get used to since I had an 18 cell display previously.  The cost is 
> around 1,200. 
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 6:45 AM
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> Subject: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices
> 
> Good Morning All,
> 
> A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
> iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have 
> Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:
> 
> -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?
> 
> - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
> model please).
> 
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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RE: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I have the focus 14 fifth generation.  It has basic note taking capability and 
pairs beautifully with the IPhone.  The pairing is stable and consistent. I've 
had it for almost 3 months and only had to re-pair it with the phone once and 
that may have been computer operator error.  I must say that I got it more as a 
note taker, but find that I'm using it a lot more with the phone than I thought 
I would.  The 14 cell display is not really that difficult for me to get used 
to since I had an 18 cell display previously.  The cost is around 1,200. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
-Original Message-
From: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 6:45 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

 Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, iPad 
or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have Braille 
I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?

- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
model please).



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[kitty hevener]

Susie, should you ever decide to try connecting the apex, the number you 
probably need is .  I would like to talk with you a little more about 
your experience using the brailliant.  Wud u mind emailing me offline at

khevener@earthlink and put brailliant in subject line?  Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Susie Stageberg

Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

Bill,

I have experience with three Braille devices and my iPhone. I bought a 
BrailleMe from National Braille Press, but could never get it to pair with 
the phone. It's a cute little device and the price, well, ya gotta love it 
($500 or so). Except that mine refused to play with the phone. So it went 
back to Boston.
 I now use a Brailliant BI14 from Humanware. Cost was about $1000. 14 cells 
are fewer than you'd think, which means you do a lot of panning. For 
instance, when reading e-mail, the word "unread" in front of a message takes 
up half the Braille real estate on the display. However, this little device 
works beautifully with the phone and has what they call a joy stick, with 
which you can swipe between items and double-tap to select something. I like 
mine a lot. You do have to have the Brailliant turned on before you boot up 
the phone, and sometimes and connection goes in and out.
 I also have a Focus Blue 40 from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they call 
themselves these days. I bought this display myself (just under $3000) to 
use with my computer when my old Alva Satellite went off to wherever old 
devices go. The Focus is a lovely, trim little display which works great 
with JAWS, but also pairs with the phone without a hiccup. No joy stick 
here, but 40 cells of beautiful Braille.
 I also have a BrailleNote Apex, which is supposed to work with the phone, 
but I could never get it to pair. You have to enter a PIN, and my lack of 
prowess entering numbers on the phone itself meant it always timed out 
before I could get it entered. Then you have to restart everything and try 
again. Most annoying.
  So these are the ones I know about firsthand. Having Braille on the phone 
makes a lot of tasks quicker and easier. It ain't always cheap, but to me 
Braille is worth it.


Susie
On Aug 21, 2019 5:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must 
have Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:


-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
iDevices?


- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
model please).




- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- “I’ve been dealing with insomnia,  I’m just so tired of it.”
- Contributor Unknown



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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Susie Stageberg]

Bill,

I have experience with three Braille devices and my iPhone. I bought a 
BrailleMe from National Braille Press, but could never get it to pair with the 
phone. It's a cute little device and the price, well, ya gotta love it ($500 or 
so). Except that mine refused to play with the phone. So it went back to Boston.
  I now use a Brailliant BI14 from Humanware. Cost was about $1000. 14 cells 
are fewer than you'd think, which means you do a lot of panning. For instance, 
when reading e-mail, the word "unread" in front of a message takes up half the 
Braille real estate on the display. However, this little device works 
beautifully with the phone and has what they call a joy stick, with which you 
can swipe between items and double-tap to select something. I like mine a lot. 
You do have to have the Brailliant turned on before you boot up the phone, and 
sometimes and connection goes in and out.
  I also have a Focus Blue 40 from Freedom Scientific, or whatever they call 
themselves these days. I bought this display myself (just under $3000) to use 
with my computer when my old Alva Satellite went off to wherever old devices 
go. The Focus is a lovely, trim little display which works great with JAWS, but 
also pairs with the phone without a hiccup. No joy stick here, but 40 cells of 
beautiful Braille.
  I also have a BrailleNote Apex, which is supposed to work with the phone, but 
I could never get it to pair. You have to enter a PIN, and my lack of prowess 
entering numbers on the phone itself meant it always timed out before I could 
get it entered. Then you have to restart everything and try again. Most 
annoying. 
   So these are the ones I know about firsthand. Having Braille on the phone 
makes a lot of tasks quicker and easier. It ain't always cheap, but to me 
Braille is worth it.

Susie
On Aug 21, 2019 5:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone  
wrote:
>
> Good Morning All, 
>
> A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
> iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have 
> Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions: 
>
> -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
> iDevices? 
>
> - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
> model please). 
>
>
>  
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin 
> - “I’ve been dealing with insomnia,  I’m just so tired of it.” 
> - Contributor Unknown 
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[kitty hevener]

I currently use polaris with iphone SE.  Found pairing to be pretty easy.  
However, it seems like I have to pair it every time as the connections from 
previous pairing never work.  This could be an operator error, but it has been 
my issue.  I did see a friend using the latest generation small focus braille 
display and it seemed to work great.  Connecting to her phone via bluetooth was 
very quick.  

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

yes, the Braille Edge was a great device. Too bad they have moved on to the 
QBraille, which has the potential of being a great device but has issues when 
trying to use it with more than one device or via bluetooth with a computer. 
If the Braille Edge is still available, it is a good choice for around $2800 to 
$3000.



Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



  On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:


   Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 
40, and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me that 
the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but repair is 
hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an iPhone allows 
you to find things and perform functions on your phone quickly. 



  Peace & Blessings, 
  Duane L. Steele
  Phone (276) 730-5194

  On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys 
for input. 
It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money 
they have.
The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write 
notes or read BRF files on an SD card.
'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect 
to up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from 
Perkins, but someone will correct that.
Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies 
web site to get further details.
HTH,



Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



  On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


   Good Morning All,

  A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an 
iPhone, iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must 
have Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

  -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
iDevices?

  - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items 
(per model please).


  
  - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
  - “I’ve been dealing with insomnia,  I’m just so tired of it.”
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Duane Steele]

I'm told that the BrailleEdge, though being discontinued, will still be 
available, and it will still be repaired.  I’m sorry it has been replaced by 
something that might not work as well.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> yes, the Braille Edge was a great device. Too bad they have moved on to the 
> QBraille, which has the potential of being a great device but has issues when 
> trying to use it with more than one device or via bluetooth with a computer.
> If the Braille Edge is still available, it is a good choice for around $2800 
> to $3000.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 
>> 40, and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
>> company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
>> machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me 
>> that the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but 
>> repair is hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an 
>> iPhone allows you to find things and perform functions on your phone 
>> quickly. 
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys 
>>> for input.
>>> It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money 
>>> they have.
>>> The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
>>> I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write 
>>> notes or read BRF files on an SD card.
>>> 'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect 
>>> to up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
>>> The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from 
>>> Perkins, but someone will correct that.
>>> Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
>>> O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
>>> That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies 
>>> web site to get further details.
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
  Good Morning All,
 
 A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
 iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must 
 have Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:
 
 -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
 iDevices?
 
 - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
 model please).
 
 
 
 - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
 - “I’ve been dealing with insomnia,  I’m just so tired of it.”
 - Contributor Unknown
 
 
 
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Richard Turner]

yes, the Braille Edge was a great device. Too bad they have moved on to the 
QBraille, which has the potential of being a great device but has issues when 
trying to use it with more than one device or via bluetooth with a computer.
If the Braille Edge is still available, it is a good choice for around $2800 to 
$3000.


Richard

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

 Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 
40, and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me that 
the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but repair is 
hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an iPhone allows 
you to find things and perform functions on your phone quickly.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys for 
input.
It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money they 
have.
The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write notes or 
read BRF files on an SD card.
'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect to 
up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from Perkins, 
but someone will correct that.
Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies web 
site to get further details.
HTH,


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

 Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, iPad 
or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have Braille 
I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?

- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
model please).



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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Duane Steele]

Hims Inc. also offers some great Braille displays.  I have the BrailleEdge 40, 
and I'm using it almost constantly.  It's a truly great machine, and the 
company stands behind its products, offering quick turn-around time if the 
machine needs servicing.  I think that's a crucial point.  Someone told me that 
the Braille Me, offered by National Braille Press is inexpensive, but repair is 
hard to get.  I'll also say that using a Braille device with an iPhone allows 
you to find things and perform functions on your phone quickly.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys 
> for input.
> It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money they 
> have.
> The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
> I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write notes 
> or read BRF files on an SD card.
> 'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect 
> to up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
> The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from Perkins, 
> but someone will correct that.
> Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
> O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
> That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies web 
> site to get further details.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Good Morning All,
>> 
>> A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, 
>> iPad or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have 
>> Braille I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:
>> 
>> -  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with 
>> iDevices?
>> 
>> - If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
>> model please).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Re: Braille Keyboards & Displays with iDevices

[Richard Turner]

most every company makes iOS compatible braille displays with braille keys for 
input.
It partly depends on what features your friend wants and how much money they 
have.
The Orbit Reader 20, about $600 from Orbit Research.
I own that one and find it excellent, plus it has the ability to write notes or 
read BRF files on an SD card.
'Focus 40 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific, around $3000. Can connect to 
up to 5 different devices, also has a Mini sd card and lots of features.
The BrailleMe is another small display for under $500, I think from Perkins, 
but someone will correct that.
Humanware makes a couple the Brailliant BI 14 and 32 cell models.
O, and Freedom Scientific also has the Focus 14 for around $1000.
That should give your friend a start for doing research at each companies web 
site to get further details.
HTH,


Richard

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On Aug 21, 2019, at 3:45 AM, 'Bill Gallik' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 Good Morning All,

A friend is looking to update his technology and is considering an iPhone, iPad 
or iPod for his personal needs.  However, he insists that he must have Braille 
I/O capabilities.  To this end, I have several questions:

-  Who sells Braille keyboards and displays that are compatible with iDevices?

- If you can, please give some evaluation as to quality of such items (per 
model please).



- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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