Thanks for looking into it, Richard. I hope it does show up again when the Mac app is released. I'm a very new Mac user and haven't installed any apps on it yet, but that might be something to look into when it comes out.
----- Original Message ----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, December 17, 2023 06:00 PM To: Digest recipients <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics ============================================================================= Today's topic summary ============================================================================= Group: viphone@googlegroups.com Url: https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics - Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage [3 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f8d18664e8f1b6c7 - Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. [9 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/d066e78275a7fdc5 - Is StarplayrX still on the app store? [2 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/1d1e949ca9cf4042 - Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 22 updates in 7 topics [2 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/97cbddbd19c2a63e - sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 [6 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/4770035c7099cd4a - How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices [2 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/674687ccd5a7612d - StarplayrX Working Again [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/16cf983da9021d2b ============================================================================= Topic: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f8d18664e8f1b6c7 ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 3 ---------- From: VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Date: Dec 17 12:37PM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1d2c0b68cf076 Hello Everyone, If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the battery level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do the following: 1. Launch the Shortcuts app. 2. Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display. 3. Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display. A list of choices will appear. 4. Select Battery Level. A new screen will appear. 5. Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically activate the shortcut. The default level is 50%. 6. On this same screen, select the "Falls Below" option. Of course, you should select either of the other two options in this area, as well. 7. In the third and final area of this screen, select the "Run Immediately" option. Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed said option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place a notification in the notifications area. 8. Select the Next button located near the top right corner of the display. A new screen will appear. Now the following step is where we, as VoiceOver users, have to take one extra step than does our sighted counterpart because of what I assume is a small VoiceOver bug that, in essence, is of no real consequence, at this point. 9. Select the "Get Started" Button. 10. Select "Speak Text" by performing either the VO split Tap or the VO pass through gesture. This will both select and open the first level of options to the Speak Text function. 11. Place VO focus on the line that VO reads as "Speak Text". 12. Single-finger, swipe up until you hear "Edit text," and select this option. The edit field for the "Speak Text" function will open and you can either use the keyboard or dictation, to type the text that the TTS engine will announce. For example, "Mark, you devilishly handsome guy, the battery level has fallen below 50 percent." 13. Select the Done button located just above the on-screen keyboard, on the right side of the display. 14. Test the announcement by selection the "Run this Shortcut" button, located near the bottom right corner of the display. 15. Finally, select the Done button, located near the top right corner of the display. 16. Close the Shortcuts app. That's all there is to it. The next time the battery level falls below the percentage you designated, it will be automatically announced,outloud. Mark ---------- 2 of 3 ---------- From: John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 17 03:44PM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1d32c31b29232 Works like a charm. Thank you very much for this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT ---------- 3 of 3 ---------- From: "M. Taylor" <markthew...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 17 03:00PM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1da8c9734fd24 You're very welcome, John. So glad you like it and that it works for you. I have my phone announce when the battery level drops below 80%, 60%, and 40%. Of course, each of these announcements requires its own shortcut. Again, you're very welcome. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 12:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Here Are The Steps to Get Your iOS 17.2 iPhone / iPad to Automatically Announce When the Battery Level Falls Below or Rises Above a Certain Percentage Works like a charm. Thank you very much for this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Dec 17, 2023, at 3:37 PM, VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hello Everyone, If you would like to have your iPhone automatically announce when the battery level falls below a certain percentage, with VoiceOver enabled, do the following: 1. Launch the Shortcuts app. 2. Select the Automation tab, located near the bottom of the display. 3. Select the Add button, located near the top right corner of the display. A list of choices will appear. 4. Select Battery Level. A new screen will appear. 5. Adjust the slider to the desired battery level that will automatically activate the shortcut. The default level is 50%. 6. On this same screen, select the "Falls Below" option. Of course, you should select either of the other two options in this area, as well. 7. In the third and final area of this screen, select the "Run Immediately" option. Selecting this option will cause another option to be displayed said option being to not only announce the battery level but to also place a notification in the notifications area. 8. Select the Next button located near the top right corner of the display. A new screen will appear. Now the following step is where we, as VoiceOver users, have to take one extra step than does our sighted counterpart because of what I assume is a small VoiceOver bug that, in essence, is of no real consequence, at this point. 9. Select the "Get Started" Button. 10. Select "Speak Text" by performing either the VO split Tap or the VO pass through gesture. This will both select and open the first level of options to the Speak Text function. 11. Place VO focus on the line that VO reads as "Speak Text". 12. Single-finger, swipe up until you hear "Edit text," and select this option. The edit field for the "Speak Text" function will open and you can either use the keyboard or dictation, to type the text that the TTS engine will announce. For example, "Mark, you devilishly handsome guy, the battery level has fallen below 50 percent." 13. Select the Done button located just above the on-screen keyboard, on the right side of the display. 14. Test the announcement by selection the "Run this Shortcut" button, located near the bottom right corner of the display. 15. Finally, select the Done button, located near the top right corner of the display. 16. Close the Shortcuts app. That's all there is to it. The next time the battery level falls below the percentage you designated, it will be automatically announced,outloud. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/db0b2a12-84ac-4f12-8fb9-4b34108c4aadn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C53BC16B-BB10-4C78-BD7D-F2A4EECAB251%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer. ============================================================================= Topic: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/d066e78275a7fdc5 ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 9 ---------- From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 16 06:36PM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/18dfb1a5ec24b I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, while on the charger over night. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 15 Pro Max. For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel. This has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night. If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning. Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta. It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case. I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan. Well perhaps we could now sing: Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight? Any thoughts welcome. Malcolm Parfitt -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B11C455E-D5EF-49FE-8D32-07270D681E9B%40parfitt1.org.uk <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B11C455E-D5EF-49FE-8D32-07270D681E9B%40parfitt1.org.uk?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . ---------- 2 of 9 ---------- From: Grant Downey <grant.dow...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 16 03:48PM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/18e9bbdffd798 Thanks for your email! On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: ---------- 3 of 9 ---------- From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> Date: Dec 17 07:38AM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1a845b949873a I use the North American Siri Voice 4 as my primary voice for Voiceover and this is not an issue at all. I wonder what causes this to happen for you. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Grant Downey Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 3:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. Thanks for your email! On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com<mailto:2carolynarn...@gmail.com>> wrote: I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, while on the charger over night. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 15 Pro Max. For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel. This has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night. If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning. Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta. It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case. I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan. Well perhaps we could now sing: Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight? Any thoughts welcome. Malcolm Parfitt -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. 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I've re-downloaded all voices a lot and I'm tired of that, so I have given up and now just use the compact voices. It may be some kind of iCloud sync issue but I'm not sure. -Øyvind ---------- 6 of 9 ---------- From: Grant Downey <grant.dow...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 17 04:29AM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1b8297d6898fa Thanks for your email! ---------- 7 of 9 ---------- From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@fastmail.com> Date: Dec 17 12:41PM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1d2fa0a361a80 I have the same problem, but only after updating any iOS version beginning with iOS17... After an iOS17 update my Voiceover switches from Siri voice 1 United States to Siri voice 2 United States. I've have to redownload Siri voice 1 United States and then switch to it after every iOS17 update so far. Didn't have any problems like this with any earlier iOS versions. It's not a big deal, just something different. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 11:38 PM Subject: RE: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. I use the North American Siri Voice 4 as my primary voice for Voiceover and this is not an issue at all. I wonder what causes this to happen for you. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Grant Downey Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 3:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. Thanks for your email! On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, while on the charger over night. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 15 Pro Max. For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel. This has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night. If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning. Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta. It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case. I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan. Well perhaps we could now sing: Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight? 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I've have to redownload Siri voice 1 United States and then switch to it after every iOS17 update so far. Didn't have any problems like this with any earlier iOS versions. It's not a big deal, just something different. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 11:38 PM Subject: RE: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. I use the North American Siri Voice 4 as my primary voice for Voiceover and this is not an issue at all. I wonder what causes this to happen for you. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Grant Downey Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 3:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. Thanks for your email! On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, while on the charger over night. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 15 Pro Max. For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel. This has been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night. If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning. Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta. It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case. I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan. Well perhaps we could now sing: Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight? Any thoughts welcome. Malcolm Parfitt -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . 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Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/1d1e949ca9cf4042 ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 2 ---------- From: Jessica Barr <barr.jess...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 17 03:01PM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1d0cb80bc7903 I sent a reply to the thread about StarplayrX and SiriusXM a few hours ago; however, I'm subscribed in digest mode and I forgot to change the subject line to reflect the specific topic. I tried searching for StarplayrX this morning and couldn't find it. I typed the name into the search field as it was written in the list discussion and got no results. I mostly listen to SiriusXM on my Echo Studio but have decided that it would be good to purchase StarplayrX for times when that isn't an option. Thanks in advance for any help. ---------- 2 of 2 ---------- From: "Richard Turner" <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> Date: Dec 17 01:02PM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1d427a5ab608a I did some checking. The maker of StarplayrX is Todd Bruss and on his web site, it says they are working on a whole new Mac version ... nothing about iOS, but the app is not showing up in the app store for me either. Though, my copy is now working just fine. I even checked in the app store on my phone under purchased apps and while it shows I downloaded it on August 5th 2022, it is not showing up currently. I suspect when they get their Mac version done, it will show up again. Fingers crossed. Richard, USA "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it." -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400 -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jessica Barr Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 12:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Is StarplayrX still on the app store? I sent a reply to the thread about StarplayrX and SiriusXM a few hours ago; however, I'm subscribed in digest mode and I forgot to change the subject line to reflect the specific topic. I tried searching for StarplayrX this morning and couldn't find it. I typed the name into the search field as it was written in the list discussion and got no results. I mostly listen to SiriusXM on my Echo Studio but have decided that it would be good to purchase StarplayrX for times when that isn't an option. Thanks in advance for any help. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/244713544.0.1702843300687%40localhost. ============================================================================= Topic: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 22 updates in 7 topics Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/97cbddbd19c2a63e ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 2 ---------- From: Jessica Barr <barr.jess...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 17 10:54AM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1c34a93997b56 Has StarplayrX been removed from the app store? I typed the name into the search field exactly as it is written in this field, and it said "no results". ----- Original Message ----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, December 16, 2023 06:23 PM To: Digest recipients <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 22 updates in 7 topics ============================================================================= Today's topic summary ============================================================================= Group: viphone@googlegroups.com Url: https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics - Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 [4 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/4770035c7099cd4a - Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge. [2 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/d066e78275a7fdc5 - connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro [5 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/b651a477c6ef4124 - How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices [5 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/674687ccd5a7612d - StarplayrX Working Again [4 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/16cf983da9021d2b - 17.2 and recognising music [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/6f564424083a9cfd - Walmart Black Friday deal [1 Update] http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/a95f9f92e24dcbfe ============================================================================= Topic: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/4770035c7099cd4a ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 4 ---------- From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> Date: Dec 16 07:01AM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/157ab97db3c2b Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard ---------- 2 of 4 ---------- From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> Date: Dec 16 07:29AM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/15934fe357d8f Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. ---------- 3 of 4 ---------- From: Dan <dbeaver...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 16 08:03AM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/16b67197fdc3d On my Apple Watch SE I have never been able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps. I have always had to use the 3 and 4 taps. I have also turned VO off and tried the 2 finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work either. Poor sighted folks. :) Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, eg the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, eg after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656D66B4CA09F06E7431EE0C792A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42966D43F044C5B84C8DF12FC892A%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com. ---------- 4 of 4 ---------- From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> Date: Dec 16 10:27PM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/18a2b9438c53f I also have an SE. I wouldn't think this would make any difference, but maybe this plays into it somehow. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 On my Apple Watch SE I have never been able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps. I have always had to use the 3 and 4 taps. I have also turned VO off and tried the 2 finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work either. Poor sighted folks. :) Dan Beaver Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 ---------- 2 of 2 ---------- From: Grant Downey <grant.dow...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 17 08:07AM -0800 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1c407d0d512d1 Thanks for your email! ============================================================================= Topic: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/4770035c7099cd4a ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 6 ---------- From: "Linda C. Knight" <lindac.kni...@icloud.com> Date: Dec 16 10:01PM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/19929e0608c8c Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42966D43F044C5B84C8DF12FC892A%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42966D43F044C5B84C8DF12FC892A%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . ---------- 2 of 6 ---------- From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> Date: Dec 17 05:11AM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1a0340c249bac On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes on my iPhone, it'll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don't have my watch with me right now, but I'd check to see if there's a way to toggle focus in the control panel. BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. 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If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008b01da3095%2467723810%243656a830%24%40icloud.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008b01da3095%2467723810%243656a830%24%40icloud.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. ---------- 3 of 6 ---------- From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> Date: Dec 17 07:41AM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1a86461dbd720 Yes, that is how I have it set up, sleep focus starts at 10:30 PM and that is the case on both my iPhone and Apple Watch. If I get up at 6:30 AM or any time before 7, I often get a notification on my watcch which says "It looks like you are awake" and I am then asked if I want to turn off the 7 AM alarm. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 On my iPhone, in settings -> focus, I have it set so that when my focus changes on my iPhone, it'll change on my watch. On the watch, in settings -> general -> focus, you can set it to mirror the focus on your iPhone. I don't have my watch with me right now, but I'd check to see if there's a way to toggle focus in the control panel. BTW, I used the health app to set up my sleep schedule, so my iPhone goes into sleep mode on a regular week day and weekend schedule. You can also add and configure different focuses in settings -> focus, on your iPhone. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42963A46A1C00ADEAB9006DFC891A%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42963A46A1C00ADEAB9006DFC891A%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. ---------- 4 of 6 ---------- From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> Date: Dec 17 07:42AM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1a875f4be93bb You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply. From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. 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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 02:42 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 You first of all have to configure the sleep focus on your iPhone and then if your watch is set up to mirror you riPhone, then it wil automatically apply. From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: sleep modeRE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi all, How do I put the apple watch in sleep mode. Is there such a thing. Thanks. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 02:30 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Interesting. I'm not sure anyone other than myself has said they use three and four taps for haptic time. This works for me even when I don't have sleep mode on. Maybe there's another setting I have set somewhere that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked this way through multiple watchOS updates. I'll be interested to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have something that works pretty reliably for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2 Hi, According to Apple, Voiceover users can use the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want minutes indicated. The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch screen is off/asleep. In a recent discussion it seems many people say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3 times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes. I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm that haptic time rarely worked. I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I discovered the following which probably applies also to my series 5, but I haven't checked it yet although I still have the series 5 because I'm a bit of a prograstinater when it comes to selling stuff. Here is what I discovered: I have a daily "sleep" focus set which starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM. I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g. the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just the minutes. However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep focus is active it will give me hours and minutes. I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure until they reply. What I don't understand is that why we can't use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you said "Speak Time" to "Control with silent mode" instead of "Always". According to the article, if you don't use Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment to get haptic time. Tell time with haptic feedback on Apple Watch - Apple Support <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/watch/apd2c755c294/watchos#:~:text=Open%20the%20Apple%20Watch%20app,Silent%20Mode%20under%20Speak%20Time.> Best regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SJ0PR12MB5661AF249E77C3E4E11F8213C791A%40SJ0PR12MB5661.namprd12.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SJ0PR12MB5661AF249E77C3E4E11F8213C791A%40SJ0PR12MB5661.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . ============================================================================= Topic: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/674687ccd5a7612d ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 2 ---------- From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> Date: Dec 17 07:37AM Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1a834ab9a266f If you use more than one device what you should want is for both devices to show exactly the same thing. For example, if you are out and about and get an email and reply to it on your iPhone, I at least would want to see on my computer that the email was replied to and that the reply is there in the sent folder or wherever I move it to. Similarly, if I delete an email I delete it because I either don't want it because it's spam or I am done with it. In that case why would I not want said email to be deleted on all my devices? As others pointed out, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange are protocols where your mail, contacts and so on are stored on the server of your provider and a local copy of the data is synced to your devices. The sync works both ways, you read an email on one device and it shows as read on the other, you reply to an email and it shows as replied to on the other, you sent an email on one device and the message is in your sent items folder on the other device or devices. You add a contact on your iPhone while you are out and about and that contact is also there on your computer and vice versa. It may take a little getting used to, but this is the way email should work when multiple devices are involved, POP3 is an old protocol which was never designed for a situation where 2 or more devices are involved, yes, you can specify to "leave mail on server" on one device, but then this does not do anything for other stuff, e.g. if you were to send a message to somebody on your iPhone with an account set up as POP3, then that message you sent lives on your iPhone only and you would never know it was sent if you looked at the sent messages on your computer. I know a few people on this list love to live in the past and they think POP3 is the reinvention of the wheel but it's definitely not. The other advantage of IMAP or Exchange of course is the fact that everything is backed up already and if you get a new device whether computer or iPhone, you don't even have to think about backing up your Outlook data file and then restoring it and all that. All you do is you enter your credentials on the new device when you set up the account and everything magically appears. From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it's also somehow deleted from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this from happening? Thanks John Riehl -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3ddd01da3034%24d35fe240%247a1fa6c0%24%40verizon.net<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3ddd01da3034%24d35fe240%247a1fa6c0%24%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. ---------- 2 of 2 ---------- From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1...@gmail.com> Date: Dec 17 01:52AM -0600 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1a90107b92bce This information is extremely helpful because it is accurate and explained with clear examples. James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 1:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices If you use more than one device what you should want is for both devices to show exactly the same thing. For example, if you are out and about and get an email and reply to it on your iPhone, I at least would want to see on my computer that the email was replied to and that the reply is there in the sent folder or wherever I move it to. Similarly, if I delete an email I delete it because I either don't want it because it's spam or I am done with it. In that case why would I not want said email to be deleted on all my devices? As others pointed out, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange are protocols where your mail, contacts and so on are stored on the server of your provider and a local copy of the data is synced to your devices. The sync works both ways, you read an email on one device and it shows as read on the other, you reply to an email and it shows as replied to on the other, you sent an email on one device and the message is in your sent items folder on the other device or devices. You add a contact on your iPhone while you are out and about and that contact is also there on your computer and vice versa. It may take a little getting used to, but this is the way email should work when multiple devices are involved, POP3 is an old protocol which was never designed for a situation where 2 or more devices are involved, yes, you can specify to "leave mail on server" on one device, but then this does not do anything for other stuff, e.g. if you were to send a message to somebody on your iPhone with an account set up as POP3, then that message you sent lives on your iPhone only and you would never know it was sent if you looked at the sent messages on your computer. I know a few people on this list love to live in the past and they think POP3 is the reinvention of the wheel but it's definitely not. The other advantage of IMAP or Exchange of course is the fact that everything is backed up already and if you get a new device whether computer or iPhone, you don't even have to think about backing up your Outlook data file and then restoring it and all that. All you do is you enter your credentials on the new device when you set up the account and everything magically appears. From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it's also somehow deleted from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this from happening? Thanks John Riehl -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . 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If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SJ0PR12MB5661B87B73D6ABBF7DA59F6DC791A%40SJ0PR12MB5661.namprd12.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SJ0PR12MB5661B87B73D6ABBF7DA59F6DC791A%40SJ0PR12MB5661.namprd12.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . ============================================================================= Topic: StarplayrX Working Again Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/16cf983da9021d2b ============================================================================= ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- From: Ron Canazzi <aa...@roadrunner.com> Date: Dec 17 01:52AM -0500 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1a5bd6c0017db Hi Group, I had closed the StarplayrX down overnight 12/15/2023 and then tried opening it for the football games around 12:30 PM 12/16/2023 EST. I got the log in error once. I was presented with a log in screen. I typed in my password again and the app has been working since then with the app closed and reopened a few times. I wonder if this is going to be a chronic issue and if the developer knows about it. He actually has a website devoted to this and other apps he has created. His name is Todd Bruss and the website address is: http://starplayrx.com/ I do not see an e-mail link on the page. On 12/15/2023 6:05 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote: -- Signature: For a nation to admit it has done grievous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice; For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue! -- You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page: https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/viphone/join . 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