RE: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears far from usable still

2017-02-03 Thread Cher Bosch
Yes, according to the user manual, that will select OK and the Botvac will 
resume.

 

 

 

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:14 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears 
far from usable still

 

Hi,

 

I’m not entirely sure. I know that sometimes, after it has gotten stuck or I 
had to clear the brushe because an object got caught in it, I had to touch 
along the bottom edge of the screen, which is parallel to the flat edge of the 
bot.

 

Never, and I mean NEVER, touch to the right side of the screen, as there are 3 
touch sensitive locations there that interact with whatever message is on the 
screen, but the actions of these touch sensitive areas are context dependent  
based upon what is on the screen. I’ve gotten stuck for days as well in the 
language area.

 

Another option might be to open the the collection receptacle, power off the 
device for a minute or 2, and then power on again. Pressing and holding the 
Home button for 15 seconds will reinitiate the device and reconnect to your 
WiFi. I use this a lot.

 

Hope this is helpful. Good luck. Others may be able to help more clearly.

 

Keith

 

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bpabbo...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears 
far from usable still

 

hi all. Thank you Keith for the information on the update.

I have a quick question. If you get an error message and you fix the error how 
do you then restart the bot vac. What I have had to do was tap on the screen 
and then press the home key because pressing the home key by itself did not 
work. I ended up in another language and it took me over a week to get it back 
in English and depending on three different sighted people before we figured it 
out.

Any help on that score would be greatly appreciated.

I think I'll try the update.


Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone


On Jan 31, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:

Hi,

 

New Neato app update today mentions VoiceOver improvements, but to my review it 
appears to still be a long way from usable.

 

Some features are now announced when flicking through the bot options, but I 
noticed that selections of Home, Spot, or Manual do not indicate Selected when 
tapped upon. And, it seems some buttons do not activate.

 

Please be cautious in updating if you have an older accessible version of their 
app.

 

At least there’s been some initial efforts made. I’ll be contacting them and I 
hope others will too about the work that remains.

 

Keith

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RE: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears far from usable still

2017-01-31 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,

I’m not entirely sure. I know that sometimes, after it has gotten stuck or I 
had to clear the brushe because an object got caught in it, I had to touch 
along the bottom edge of the screen, which is parallel to the flat edge of the 
bot.

Never, and I mean NEVER, touch to the right side of the screen, as there are 3 
touch sensitive locations there that interact with whatever message is on the 
screen, but the actions of these touch sensitive areas are context dependent  
based upon what is on the screen. I’ve gotten stuck for days as well in the 
language area.

Another option might be to open the the collection receptacle, power off the 
device for a minute or 2, and then power on again. Pressing and holding the 
Home button for 15 seconds will reinitiate the device and reconnect to your 
WiFi. I use this a lot.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck. Others may be able to help more clearly.

Keith

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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears 
far from usable still

hi all. Thank you Keith for the information on the update.

I have a quick question. If you get an error message and you fix the error how 
do you then restart the bot vac. What I have had to do was tap on the screen 
and then press the home key because pressing the home key by itself did not 
work. I ended up in another language and it took me over a week to get it back 
in English and depending on three different sighted people before we figured it 
out.

Any help on that score would be greatly appreciated.

I think I'll try the update.

Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone

On Jan 31, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu<mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:
Hi,

New Neato app update today mentions VoiceOver improvements, but to my review it 
appears to still be a long way from usable.

Some features are now announced when flicking through the bot options, but I 
noticed that selections of Home, Spot, or Manual do not indicate Selected when 
tapped upon. And, it seems some buttons do not activate.

Please be cautious in updating if you have an older accessible version of their 
app.

At least there’s been some initial efforts made. I’ll be contacting them and I 
hope others will too about the work that remains.

Keith
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Re: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears far from usable still

2017-01-31 Thread bpabbott9
hi all. Thank you Keith for the information on the update.

I have a quick question. If you get an error message and you fix the error how 
do you then restart the bot vac. What I have had to do was tap on the screen 
and then press the home key because pressing the home key by itself did not 
work. I ended up in another language and it took me over a week to get it back 
in English and depending on three different sighted people before we figured it 
out.

Any help on that score would be greatly appreciated.

I think I'll try the update.

Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> New Neato app update today mentions VoiceOver improvements, but to my review 
> it appears to still be a long way from usable.
>  
> Some features are now announced when flicking through the bot options, but I 
> noticed that selections of Home, Spot, or Manual do not indicate Selected 
> when tapped upon. And, it seems some buttons do not activate.
>  
> Please be cautious in updating if you have an older accessible version of 
> their app.
>  
> At least there’s been some initial efforts made. I’ll be contacting them and 
> I hope others will too about the work that remains.
>  
> Keith
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