Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Mary Otten 
Well, since I don't actually own a watch yet, I shouldn't be replying to this 
question about Morse code. But as a long time ham radio operator, that is 
certainly the system I would try first. It would be particularly nice if it 
work where you could just have a digits, assuming you know the hour. That seems 
like it would be pretty fast.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I use the Digits method with a long vibration for every 10 hours or minutes, 
> but I find that this system works great for minutes but makes no sense for 
> hours. If it’s 10 AM, 11 AM or Noon you get just the long tap, a long tap and 
> short tap and a long tap and two short taps, respectively. Once you get to 1 
> 1 PM, 2 PM, 3 PM etc. you get 1, 2, 3 short taps and so on. By the time you 
> get to 9 PM you have to really pay attention and here is what I think would 
> make a lot more sense for the hours (the minutes are fine):
> The day has 24 hours. Let’s start at Midnight. Why not long tap once for 
> Midnight (12 AM or 0 hours in military time). Then from 1 AM to 5 AM you get 
> a long tap and 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 short taps, respectively. Then at 6 AM you 
> get two long taps and again from 7 to 11 AM you get two long taps and 1 to 5 
> short taps. At Noon you get 3 long taps and again from 1 to 5 PM a short tap 
> is added for each hour. At 6 PM you get 4 long taps and from 7 PM to 11 PM 
> again a hort tap is added for each hour.
> This would make more sense to me, in order to have fewer long taps they could 
> also start with a single long tap at 6 AM since then for most of the hours 
> when people are awake you deal with one, 2 and 3 long taps and only for 
> Midnight to 6 AM you have 4 long taps followed by 1 to 5 short taps.
>  
> I’d really like to hear what other Apple Watch users think of that and also 
> which method they use. I know a lot of the older folks out there may be or 
> have been Ham radio users and know morse code and maybe they prefer that, but 
> it would be interesting to have a little survey of how many blind Apple Watch 
> users use the taptic time and which method they use.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 8:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Apple calls it Taptic Time, and it can be turned on in the voice over 
> settings for the watch.
> There are 3 different vibration settings you can choose from.  Here are the 
> choices and the vibrations that work for each.
>  
> Digits:
> When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every ten 
> hours, and short tap for each following hour. Then it will long tap for every 
> ten minutes, and short tap for each following minute.
>  
> Terse:
> When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every 5 hours, 
> then short tap for the remaining hours. Then it will long tap for each 
> quarter hour.
>  
> Morse Code:
> When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will tap each digit of the time 
> in Morse code.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
>

RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
The Sports Loop would be similar to the Leather Loop which has been available 
for some time, the band is made from interlocking loops rather than a solid 
band. It is supposed to help with breathability since under the solid Sports 
Band if you get sweaty or if your arms is wet the moisture will sort of linger. 
Definitely worthwhile to check Amazon, what Apple charges for their bands is a 
total rip-off. You can buy a Milanese Loop stainless steel band with magnetic 
closure on Amazon for around $20 and Apple charges over $200 (that is here in 
Canada in Canadian Dollars). In the US it’s no different except that the 
Milanese Loop from Apple costs whatever it costs in US, maybe $150 or $160 and 
on Amazon.com you could probably get one for $15.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Richard,

Chris already explained the methods, here your example with the Digits method, 
10:59:
You would get 1 long tap for 10 o’clock (it is assume the user knows if it’s 
morning or night)
Then there is a brief pause, then you get 5 more long taps each of which 
indicates 10 minutes and then 9 short taps.
If it were 11 o’clock exactly you would simply get one long tap followed by a 
short tap, long for 10 and one short for another hour, so 11 o’clock.
There is only a pause between the indication of hours and minutes. It works 
very well and you quickly get used to it. Obviously if it’s something like 9:59 
all the tapping takes a bit, you would first get 9 short taps for 9 hours, then 
a pause, then the 5 long taps followed by 9 more short taps.
If you already know the hour, say you are in a meeting which started at 2 PM 
and goes to 3 PM and you just want to check how long is left you can tap the 
watch 3 times and only the minutes are tapped out. If it were 2:36 you would 
only get 3 long taps and 6 short taps.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
pattern will a person get?
There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
Richard


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
> wrote:
These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I use the Digits method with a long vibration for every 10 hours or minutes, 
but I find that this system works great for minutes but makes no sense for 
hours. If it’s 10 AM, 11 AM or Noon you get just the long tap, a long tap and 
short tap and a long tap and two short taps, respectively. Once you get to 1 1 
PM, 2 PM, 3 PM etc. you get 1, 2, 3 short taps and so on. By the time you get 
to 9 PM you have to really pay attention and here is what I think would make a 
lot more sense for the hours (the minutes are fine):
The day has 24 hours. Let’s start at Midnight. Why not long tap once for 
Midnight (12 AM or 0 hours in military time). Then from 1 AM to 5 AM you get a 
long tap and 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 short taps, respectively. Then at 6 AM you get 
two long taps and again from 7 to 11 AM you get two long taps and 1 to 5 short 
taps. At Noon you get 3 long taps and again from 1 to 5 PM a short tap is added 
for each hour. At 6 PM you get 4 long taps and from 7 PM to 11 PM again a hort 
tap is added for each hour.
This would make more sense to me, in order to have fewer long taps they could 
also start with a single long tap at 6 AM since then for most of the hours when 
people are awake you deal with one, 2 and 3 long taps and only for Midnight to 
6 AM you have 4 long taps followed by 1 to 5 short taps.

I’d really like to hear what other Apple Watch users think of that and also 
which method they use. I know a lot of the older folks out there may be or have 
been Ham radio users and know morse code and maybe they prefer that, but it 
would be interesting to have a little survey of how many blind Apple Watch 
users use the taptic time and which method they use.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Apple calls it Taptic Time, and it can be turned on in the voice over settings 
for the watch.
There are 3 different vibration settings you can choose from.  Here are the 
choices and the vibrations that work for each.

Digits:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every ten hours, 
and short tap for each following hour. Then it will long tap for every ten 
minutes, and short tap for each following minute.

Terse:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every 5 hours, 
then short tap for the remaining hours. Then it will long tap for each quarter 
hour.

Morse Code:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will tap each digit of the time in 
Morse code.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
pattern will a person get?
There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
> wrote:
These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread michv 
o i thought you were useing skype on your pc. sorry. then i am not shure. from 
Mich i don’t like the skype for ios. from Mich.

From: Stephanie Mitchell 
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 11:40 AM
To: Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

there is no menu bar. I'm using skype for ios. It has a new chat or call, my 
info but nothing about adding contacts.

Steph 
On 18/09/2017 1:26 am, =?UTF-8?B?TGllbCBCZW4gU2ltb24=?= 
=?UTF-8?B?4oCr15zXmdeQ15wg15HXnyDXodeZ157Xldef4oCs4oCO?=  
wrote:
>
> Hi, yes there are 3 or 4 pat urns to choose from. Go too the Wotch app 
> general, accessibility, VoiceOver, taptic time, and choose from there. You 
> can demonstrate and check how it works before that you choose one.
>
> Sent from  my iphone
>
> ‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
>
>> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
>>
>> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
>> pattern will a person get?
>>
>> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
>> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
>> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
>> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
>> just tap the screen 3 times.
>>
>> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>>
>>  
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
>>> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
>>> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
>>> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
>>> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
>>> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of 
>>> choices first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to 
>>> have Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
>>> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen 
>>> to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what 
>>> is the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the 
>>> Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the 
>>> band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw 
>>> this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Suzanne
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Chris Chaffin 

Apple calls it Taptic Time, and it can be turned on in the voice over settings 
for the watch.
There are 3 different vibration settings you can choose from.  Here are the 
choices and the vibrations that work for each.

Digits:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every ten hours, 
and short tap for each following hour. Then it will long tap for every ten 
minutes, and short tap for each following minute.

Terse:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will long tap for every 5 hours, 
then short tap for the remaining hours. Then it will long tap for each quarter 
hour.

Morse Code:
When you double-tap the screen, Apple Watch will tap each digit of the time in 
Morse code.

HTH,

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
>  
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Stephanie Mitchell 
there is no menu bar. I'm using skype for ios. It has a new chat or call, my info but nothing about adding contacts.
Steph 
On 18/09/2017 1:26 am, =?UTF-8?B?TGllbCBCZW4gU2ltb24=?= =?UTF-8?B?4oCr15zXmdeQ15wg15HXnyDXodeZ157Xldef4oCs4oCO?=  wrote:
>
> Hi, yes there are 3 or 4 pat urns to choose from. Go too the Wotch app general, accessibility, VoiceOver, taptic time, and choose from there. You can demonstrate and check how it works before that you choose one.
>
> Sent from  my iphone
>
> ‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>
>> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
>>
>> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration pattern will a person get?
>>
>> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just tap the screen 3 times.
>>
>> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>>
>>  
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Suzanne
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
Thing i forgot:go too the Wotch app on your iPhone.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬

> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
Hi, yes there are 3 or 4 pat urns to choose from. Go too the Wotch app general, 
accessibility, VoiceOver, taptic time, and choose from there. You can 
demonstrate and check how it works before that you choose one.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-17 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 17:54, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬

> So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
> Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
> pattern will a person get?
> There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions
>  
>  
> Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
> tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
> very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the 
> time in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, 
> just tap the screen 3 times.
> And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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RE: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Richard Turner 
So, is there a list of the vibrations for the time somewhere?
Do you have to count the vibrations?  If it is 10:59 what kind of vibration 
pattern will a person get?
There must be a list somewhere, but I can’t find one.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions


Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson 
> wrote:
These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound of 
many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it has 
cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and unobtrusively 
use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its functions, can you 
check the time in a second or two as you would with a Braille or talking watch 
or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices first? Also, is changing 
the volume simple enough to enable you to have Voiceover very soft for when you 
want to hear the time without drawing attention to yourself but also easy 
enough to change if you need to listen to an email, etc.? Finally, and this is 
a different sort of question, what is the difference between the sports bands 
and the loops? The guy at the Apple store showed me a simple plastic strap, 
which I'm guessing is the band. But when I got home and looked at the ordering 
options, I also saw this mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?

Thanks for any help and answers you can give.

Suzanne

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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Chris Chaffin 

Yes, checking the time on the Apple watch is quick and simple.  You can just 
tap the screen and it will announce the time, or if you want to get the time 
very quietly, you can just tap the screen 2 times and it will give you the time 
in vibrations.  If you already know the hour and just want the minutes, just 
tap the screen 3 times.
And yes, it is very easy to adjust the volume on the watch.

HTH,

Chris


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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Re: Quickly Checking the Time with Apple Watch and Other Questions

2017-09-17 Thread Aleeha Dudley 
Hi, 

You can change the volume of the watch by two finger double tapping and holding 
until you hear a soft ding, then dragging your fingers up and down to change 
the volume in that direction. The time is generally spoken immediately when you 
press the button on the crown. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Suzanne Wilson  
> wrote:
> 
> These questions are directed at current Apple Watch users. I like the sound 
> of many of the robust features the Apple Watch offers, particularly once it 
> has cellular capabilities. But I also want to be able to easily and 
> unobtrusively use it as a watch. In other words, once you get used to its 
> functions, can you check the time in a second or two as you would with a 
> Braille or talking watch or do you need to scroll through a bunch of choices 
> first? Also, is changing the volume simple enough to enable you to have 
> Voiceover very soft for when you want to hear the time without drawing 
> attention to yourself but also easy enough to change if you need to listen to 
> an email, etc.? Finally, and this is a different sort of question, what is 
> the difference between the sports bands and the loops? The guy at the Apple 
> store showed me a simple plastic strap, which I'm guessing is the band. But 
> when I got home and looked at the ordering options, I also saw this 
> mysterious loop. Any ideas what that is?
>  
> Thanks for any help and answers you can give.
>  
> Suzanne
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