I'll put it this way, none of the sighted people who know and love me would
bother with it, too hard.
Best regards,
Carolyn
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:57 AM
To:
Low vision users may, but give e 1 single reason why a sighted person would
turn on Voiceover and then turn on the screen curtain, at that point they are
putting themselves on the same level as a blind person with respect to using
their phone, they can’t see the screen and would have to rely
Oh, come on! The world isn’t so black and white!
Low vision people might use voiceover and even invoke screen curtain.
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I’m not sure they could even access the screen curtain without first turning on
Voiceover.
Karen P
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and
Indeed. It more sounds like if sighted people are telling you that they’re
using screen curtain, they’re most likely messing with you.
There’s no real conceivable reason why a sighted person would use this specific
accessibility related feature for the blind as opposed to say another general
Hi Sieghard and Janet,
I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all
those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on
to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not
ran into any sighted person who could
I share your experience, I have noticed that too.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub
I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our
experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to
using a phone where Voiceover is turned on.
I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you
can’t use screen
Sieghard and all,
Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time.
I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using
the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using
it. please don’t ask me why, but the
Hi Janet,
I would say you could asked 10 sighted people what screen curtain is and they
would not have a clue. Screen curtain is afor blind users so like I said the
sighted would not know what it is. Heck, most sighted people have never heard
of voice over. Just asked some of your sighted
How/why would they know about Screen Curtain. It doesn't even work, if you
don't go into Accessibilities and turn on VoiceObver, which none of them ever
need or want.
Best regards,
Carolyn
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
That is what I thought, Hollie.
Best regards,
Carolyn
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Holly
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 1:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain
That is what I think. I showed it to my card playing buddies, and they just
sort of gaped and duh? Nothing there.
Best regards,
Carolyn
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From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted
people know about the screen curtain?
I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town
where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly
folks who have lost their
I have done some teaching people who are just losing their sight and need to
learn to use voiceover. It is best to turn the screen curtain on so they learn
it without any sight. This relieves some of the frustration as their sight
becomes worse. But a fully sighted person would probably have no
Hi Marcio,
How do you know sighted people don’t know about Screen Curtain?? I think you
and others are sadly mistaken when you think sighted people don’t know
anything about the Screen Curtain?, but each to their own! LOL!
Janet
From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Marcio;
A person who would steal a blind person’s phone would probably not have the
brain power to figure out how to turn off screen curtain, let alone bring up
Siri to turn off voice over. Hahahaha.
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