RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-21 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I'll put it this way, none of the sighted people who know and love me would bother with it, too hard. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:57 AM To:

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Low vision users may, but give e 1 single reason why a sighted person would turn on Voiceover and then turn on the screen curtain, at that point they are putting themselves on the same level as a blind person with respect to using their phone, they can’t see the screen and would have to rely

Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-20 Thread Pete Nalda
Oh, come on! The world isn’t so black and white! Low vision people might use voiceover and even invoke screen curtain. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Jun 20, 2019, at

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-20 Thread Karen Poulakos
I’m not sure they could even access the screen curtain without first turning on Voiceover. Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-20 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Indeed. It more sounds like if sighted people are telling you that they’re using screen curtain, they’re most likely messing with you. There’s no real conceivable reason why a sighted person would use this specific accessibility related feature for the blind as opposed to say another general

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-20 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Sieghard and Janet, I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not ran into any sighted person who could

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2019-06-19 Thread Fazil
I share your experience, I have noticed that too. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-18 Thread janet gross
Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-10 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Janet, I would say you could asked 10 sighted people what screen curtain is and they would not have a clue. Screen curtain is afor blind users so like I said the sighted would not know what it is. Heck, most sighted people have never heard of voice over. Just asked some of your sighted

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-10 Thread Carolyn Arnold
How/why would they know about Screen Curtain. It doesn't even work, if you don't go into Accessibilities and turn on VoiceObver, which none of them ever need or want. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-10 Thread Carolyn Arnold
That is what I thought, Hollie. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 1:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-10 Thread Carolyn Arnold
That is what I think. I showed it to my card playing buddies, and they just sort of gaped and duh? Nothing there. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 1:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their

Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-10 Thread Marie N.
I have done some teaching people who are just losing their sight and need to learn to use voiceover. It is best to turn the screen curtain on so they learn it without any sight. This relieves some of the frustration as their sight becomes worse. But a fully sighted person would probably have no

RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-09 Thread janet gross
Hi Marcio, How do you know sighted people don’t know about Screen Curtain?? I think you and others are sadly mistaken when you think sighted people don’t know anything about the Screen Curtain?, but each to their own! LOL! Janet From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

2019-06-09 Thread Holly
Marcio; A person who would steal a blind person’s phone would probably not have the brain power to figure out how to turn off screen curtain, let alone bring up Siri to turn off voice over. Hahahaha. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If