RE: iphone 7+ questions.

2017-02-21 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Simon,

I'll answer your questions before going through all my inbox so my apologies to 
the group if this reply is redundant.

Yes, the home button on the iPhone 7 turns VoiceOver on and off as it always 
has via a triple press even though the button is now haptic rather than a 
mechanical button. The lightning splitter made by Belkin and available from the 
US Apple Store for $40 provides access to stereo listening and all the 
functions of the remote button when used with Apple earpods. I've never used a 
stereo microphone with mine but I assume its full functionality should also be 
available.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 2:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone 7+ questions.

thanks for this, it was extremely interesting, as I am thinking about upgrading 
in a couple of months time.
I wonder if you happen to know the following.
as the iPhone 7 home button doesn't actually click, can it still be used to 
turn voiceOver on in the normal way? if not, how does one turn voiceOver on on 
the 7?
also, with these splitters, can they be used with something like a stereo 
microphone, or is the lightning connection on them purely for charging?
I ask this, as I use my iPhone for recording, and the 256GB on the 7 would be 
really useful for that, but I normally use the lightning connector for my 
stereo mic, and the headphone connector for monitoring and/or better hearing 
voiceOver, but am not sure I will be able to do that with the 7 and one of 
these splitters, as no one seems to know at the moment.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: iphone 7+ questions.


Hard to say what Apple will do regarding pricing, it depends on what size of 
7 Plus you want (currently the options are 32 Gb, 128 Gb and 256 Gb) and it 
depends if you buy on contract or plan to buy outright.
When new phones are released Apple often offers the older phone only in the 
smaller sizes so they may eventually drop the 7 Plus in 256 Gb once the new 
phones have been released. On contract I wouldn't be surprised if you may 
find some $99 deals although a 7 Plus in 128 Gb probably still would cost at 
least $199 on contract.
If you plan to buy a 7 Plus you are only getting the last generation so you 
can always go on the Apple website and compare the price of the current 
iPhone 7 Plus and last year's 6S Plus, this should give you an idea of what 
may come, beyond this it's anybody's guess.

The 7 Plus should support iOS at least through to version 14 or 15. Assuming 
Apple continues to count up by one each year, iOS 11 will be released this 
year (2017), iOS 12 will be next year, iOS 13 in 2019, iOS 14 in 2020 and 
iOS 15 in 2021.
Below is a listing of iPhones starting with the 3GS in 2009 (the first with 
Voiceover) and which iOS version they were released with:

2009: iPhone 3GS with iOS 3
2010: iPhone 4 with iOS 4
2011: iPhone 4S with iOS 5
2012: iPhone 5/5C with iOS 6
2013: iPhone 5S with iOS 7 (first 64 bit)
2014: iPhone 6/6 Plus with iOS 8
2015: iPhone 6S/6S Plus with iOS 9
2016: iPhone 7/7 Plus with iOS 10
2017: iPhone 7S/7S Plus/iPhone Pro with iOS 11

I didn't list the iPhone SE which was released in March last year sort of 
half way between the 6S/6S Plus and the 7/7plus and which originally came 
out with iOS 9.
The last one for this year is of course speculation as to the name, but 
rumours strongly point towards 3 iPhones this year, a "normal" 7S/7S Plus 
with a possibly new form factor and a new even larger iPhone with all the 
latest bells and whistles like an OLED screen, wireless charging and like 
the old 4/4S with a design which has glass both front and back. The iPhone 6 
Plus, 6S Plus and 7 Plus all have a 5.5 inch screen, this new high-end 
iPhone which is rumoured to cost well above $1,000 US is said to have about 
a 5.8 inch screen and apparently this year it is the only one with OLED 
screen and wireless charging.

The difference between the old home button and that of the iPhone 7/7 Plus 
is that the new home button really isn't a button at all, it has no 
mechanical part and dos not move/push in at all. There still is a 
"button-shaped" indentation in the screen which gives you the sense there is 
a button there, but it's just part of the glass and when you press it all 
you get is haptic feedback, a vibration similar to what 3D Touch feels like.
Eventually there won't be a hoe button at all and maybe even this years new 
high-end phone could have technology where Touch Id works anywhere you put 
your finger on the screen and there are even rumours that things like the 
volume buttons on the side maybe touch sensitive areas instead of actual 
buttons. I think in a few years we all should 

Re: iphone 7+ questions.

2017-02-21 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hello Sieghard and all,

You are right that you reset the iPHone 7 and 7 Plus by holding down the Power 
and Volume Down buttons, and that otherwise you use the home button as with 
previous phones.

Best,
Anna



> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can still double and triple click the home button. The only 
> keystroke that has changed is for doing a hard reset where you currently hold 
> the power button and home key, I believe on the iPhone 7/7 Plus you hold the 
> power button along with the volume down button.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 7+ questions.
> 
> thanks for this, it was extremely interesting, as I am thinking about 
> upgrading in a couple of months time.
> I wonder if you happen to know the following.
> as the iPhone 7 home button doesn't actually click, can it still be used to 
> turn voiceOver on in the normal way? if not, how does one turn voiceOver on 
> on the 7?
> also, with these splitters, can they be used with something like a stereo 
> microphone, or is the lightning connection on them purely for charging?
> I ask this, as I use my iPhone for recording, and the 256GB on the 7 would be 
> really useful for that, but I normally use the lightning connector for my 
> stereo mic, and the headphone connector for monitoring and/or better hearing 
> voiceOver, but am not sure I will be able to do that with the 7 and one of 
> these splitters, as no one seems to know at the moment.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:56 AM
> Subject: RE: iphone 7+ questions.
> 
> 
> Hard to say what Apple will do regarding pricing, it depends on what size of 
> 7 Plus you want (currently the options are 32 Gb, 128 Gb and 256 Gb) and it 
> depends if you buy on contract or plan to buy outright.
> When new phones are released Apple often offers the older phone only in the 
> smaller sizes so they may eventually drop the 7 Plus in 256 Gb once the new 
> phones have been released. On contract I wouldn't be surprised if you may 
> find some $99 deals although a 7 Plus in 128 Gb probably still would cost at 
> least $199 on contract.
> If you plan to buy a 7 Plus you are only getting the last generation so you 
> can always go on the Apple website and compare the price of the current 
> iPhone 7 Plus and last year's 6S Plus, this should give you an idea of what 
> may come, beyond this it's anybody's guess.
> 
> The 7 Plus should support iOS at least through to version 14 or 15. Assuming 
> Apple continues to count up by one each year, iOS 11 will be released this 
> year (2017), iOS 12 will be next year, iOS 13 in 2019, iOS 14 in 2020 and 
> iOS 15 in 2021.
> Below is a listing of iPhones starting with the 3GS in 2009 (the first with 
> Voiceover) and which iOS version they were released with:
> 
> 2009: iPhone 3GS with iOS 3
> 2010: iPhone 4 with iOS 4
> 2011: iPhone 4S with iOS 5
> 2012: iPhone 5/5C with iOS 6
> 2013: iPhone 5S with iOS 7 (first 64 bit)
> 2014: iPhone 6/6 Plus with iOS 8
> 2015: iPhone 6S/6S Plus with iOS 9
> 2016: iPhone 7/7 Plus with iOS 10
> 2017: iPhone 7S/7S Plus/iPhone Pro with iOS 11
> 
> I didn't list the iPhone SE which was released in March last year sort of 
> half way between the 6S/6S Plus and the 7/7plus and which originally came 
> out with iOS 9.
> The last one for this year is of course speculation as to the name, but 
> rumours strongly point towards 3 iPhones this year, a "normal" 7S/7S Plus 
> with a possibly new form factor and a new even larger iPhone with all the 
> latest bells and whistles like an OLED screen, wireless charging and like 
> the old 4/4S with a design which has glass both front and back. The iPhone 6 
> Plus, 6S Plus and 7 Plus all have a 5.5 inch screen, this new high-end 
> iPhone which is rumoured to cost well above $1,000 US is said to have about 
> a 5.8 inch screen and apparently this year it is the only one with OLED 
> screen and wireless charging.
> 
> The difference between the old home button and that of the iPhone 7/7 Plus 
> is that the new home button really isn't a button at all, it has no 
> mechanical part and dos not move/push in at all. There still is a 
> "button-shaped" indentation in the screen which gives you the sense there is 
> a button there, but it's just part of the glass and when you press it all 
> you get is haptic feedback, a vibration si

RE: iphone 7+ questions.

2017-02-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, you can still double and triple click the home button. The only keystroke 
that has changed is for doing a hard reset where you currently hold the power 
button and home key, I believe on the iPhone 7/7 Plus you hold the power button 
along with the volume down button.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone 7+ questions.

thanks for this, it was extremely interesting, as I am thinking about upgrading 
in a couple of months time.
I wonder if you happen to know the following.
as the iPhone 7 home button doesn't actually click, can it still be used to 
turn voiceOver on in the normal way? if not, how does one turn voiceOver on on 
the 7?
also, with these splitters, can they be used with something like a stereo 
microphone, or is the lightning connection on them purely for charging?
I ask this, as I use my iPhone for recording, and the 256GB on the 7 would be 
really useful for that, but I normally use the lightning connector for my 
stereo mic, and the headphone connector for monitoring and/or better hearing 
voiceOver, but am not sure I will be able to do that with the 7 and one of 
these splitters, as no one seems to know at the moment.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: iphone 7+ questions.


Hard to say what Apple will do regarding pricing, it depends on what size of 
7 Plus you want (currently the options are 32 Gb, 128 Gb and 256 Gb) and it 
depends if you buy on contract or plan to buy outright.
When new phones are released Apple often offers the older phone only in the 
smaller sizes so they may eventually drop the 7 Plus in 256 Gb once the new 
phones have been released. On contract I wouldn't be surprised if you may 
find some $99 deals although a 7 Plus in 128 Gb probably still would cost at 
least $199 on contract.
If you plan to buy a 7 Plus you are only getting the last generation so you 
can always go on the Apple website and compare the price of the current 
iPhone 7 Plus and last year's 6S Plus, this should give you an idea of what 
may come, beyond this it's anybody's guess.

The 7 Plus should support iOS at least through to version 14 or 15. Assuming 
Apple continues to count up by one each year, iOS 11 will be released this 
year (2017), iOS 12 will be next year, iOS 13 in 2019, iOS 14 in 2020 and 
iOS 15 in 2021.
Below is a listing of iPhones starting with the 3GS in 2009 (the first with 
Voiceover) and which iOS version they were released with:

2009: iPhone 3GS with iOS 3
2010: iPhone 4 with iOS 4
2011: iPhone 4S with iOS 5
2012: iPhone 5/5C with iOS 6
2013: iPhone 5S with iOS 7 (first 64 bit)
2014: iPhone 6/6 Plus with iOS 8
2015: iPhone 6S/6S Plus with iOS 9
2016: iPhone 7/7 Plus with iOS 10
2017: iPhone 7S/7S Plus/iPhone Pro with iOS 11

I didn't list the iPhone SE which was released in March last year sort of 
half way between the 6S/6S Plus and the 7/7plus and which originally came 
out with iOS 9.
The last one for this year is of course speculation as to the name, but 
rumours strongly point towards 3 iPhones this year, a "normal" 7S/7S Plus 
with a possibly new form factor and a new even larger iPhone with all the 
latest bells and whistles like an OLED screen, wireless charging and like 
the old 4/4S with a design which has glass both front and back. The iPhone 6 
Plus, 6S Plus and 7 Plus all have a 5.5 inch screen, this new high-end 
iPhone which is rumoured to cost well above $1,000 US is said to have about 
a 5.8 inch screen and apparently this year it is the only one with OLED 
screen and wireless charging.

The difference between the old home button and that of the iPhone 7/7 Plus 
is that the new home button really isn't a button at all, it has no 
mechanical part and dos not move/push in at all. There still is a 
"button-shaped" indentation in the screen which gives you the sense there is 
a button there, but it's just part of the glass and when you press it all 
you get is haptic feedback, a vibration similar to what 3D Touch feels like.
Eventually there won't be a hoe button at all and maybe even this years new 
high-end phone could have technology where Touch Id works anywhere you put 
your finger on the screen and there are even rumours that things like the 
volume buttons on the side maybe touch sensitive areas instead of actual 
buttons. I think in a few years we all should get used to the idea that this 
is the way things will go. One advantage of this of course is that it is 
much easier to make the iPhone even more waterproof, the less mechanical 
buttons/openings there are the easier it is to keep it sealed.
I think in about 3 months the rumours will start to take on more concrete 
form and we'll really sta

Re: iphone 7+ questions.

2017-02-21 Thread Kelly Pierce
Yes, it has a mute switch.  it is by the volume buttons on the left
side.  it is integrated into the molding and VoiceOver will say muted
when mute is turned on.

Kelly

On 2/21/17, kg7...@juno.com  wrote:
> Hi all, I am hoping to get an I-phone 7 soon, but I am curious, does the
> 7 still have a mute switch?  I was helping a friend orient herself  with
> her brand new 7, and she could not find the mute switch.  She has never
> had an I-device so she may have just been missing it.  I am still using a
> 5 S, so I wasn't aware that the power button was moved over to the right
> side on the 6 and 7.
>
> Have a good one:
> John
>
> 
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Re: iphone 7+ questions.

2017-02-21 Thread kg7fa2
Hi all, I am hoping to get an I-phone 7 soon, but I am curious, does the
7 still have a mute switch?  I was helping a friend orient herself  with
her brand new 7, and she could not find the mute switch.  She has never
had an I-device so she may have just been missing it.  I am still using a
5 S, so I wasn't aware that the power button was moved over to the right
side on the 6 and 7.

Have a good one:
John


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Re: iphone 7+ questions.

2017-02-21 Thread goshawk on horseback
thanks for this, it was extremely interesting, as I am thinking about 
upgrading in a couple of months time.
I wonder if you happen to know the following.
as the iPhone 7 home button doesn't actually click, can it still be used to 
turn voiceOver on in the normal way? if not, how does one turn voiceOver on 
on the 7?
also, with these splitters, can they be used with something like a stereo 
microphone, or is the lightning connection on them purely for charging?
I ask this, as I use my iPhone for recording, and the 256GB on the 7 would 
be really useful for that, but I normally use the lightning connector for my 
stereo mic, and the headphone connector for monitoring and/or better hearing 
voiceOver, but am not sure I will be able to do that with the 7 and one of 
these splitters, as no one seems to know at the moment.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: iphone 7+ questions.


Hard to say what Apple will do regarding pricing, it depends on what size of 
7 Plus you want (currently the options are 32 Gb, 128 Gb and 256 Gb) and it 
depends if you buy on contract or plan to buy outright.
When new phones are released Apple often offers the older phone only in the 
smaller sizes so they may eventually drop the 7 Plus in 256 Gb once the new 
phones have been released. On contract I wouldn't be surprised if you may 
find some $99 deals although a 7 Plus in 128 Gb probably still would cost at 
least $199 on contract.
If you plan to buy a 7 Plus you are only getting the last generation so you 
can always go on the Apple website and compare the price of the current 
iPhone 7 Plus and last year's 6S Plus, this should give you an idea of what 
may come, beyond this it's anybody's guess.

The 7 Plus should support iOS at least through to version 14 or 15. Assuming 
Apple continues to count up by one each year, iOS 11 will be released this 
year (2017), iOS 12 will be next year, iOS 13 in 2019, iOS 14 in 2020 and 
iOS 15 in 2021.
Below is a listing of iPhones starting with the 3GS in 2009 (the first with 
Voiceover) and which iOS version they were released with:

2009: iPhone 3GS with iOS 3
2010: iPhone 4 with iOS 4
2011: iPhone 4S with iOS 5
2012: iPhone 5/5C with iOS 6
2013: iPhone 5S with iOS 7 (first 64 bit)
2014: iPhone 6/6 Plus with iOS 8
2015: iPhone 6S/6S Plus with iOS 9
2016: iPhone 7/7 Plus with iOS 10
2017: iPhone 7S/7S Plus/iPhone Pro with iOS 11

I didn't list the iPhone SE which was released in March last year sort of 
half way between the 6S/6S Plus and the 7/7plus and which originally came 
out with iOS 9.
The last one for this year is of course speculation as to the name, but 
rumours strongly point towards 3 iPhones this year, a "normal" 7S/7S Plus 
with a possibly new form factor and a new even larger iPhone with all the 
latest bells and whistles like an OLED screen, wireless charging and like 
the old 4/4S with a design which has glass both front and back. The iPhone 6 
Plus, 6S Plus and 7 Plus all have a 5.5 inch screen, this new high-end 
iPhone which is rumoured to cost well above $1,000 US is said to have about 
a 5.8 inch screen and apparently this year it is the only one with OLED 
screen and wireless charging.

The difference between the old home button and that of the iPhone 7/7 Plus 
is that the new home button really isn't a button at all, it has no 
mechanical part and dos not move/push in at all. There still is a 
"button-shaped" indentation in the screen which gives you the sense there is 
a button there, but it's just part of the glass and when you press it all 
you get is haptic feedback, a vibration similar to what 3D Touch feels like.
Eventually there won't be a hoe button at all and maybe even this years new 
high-end phone could have technology where Touch Id works anywhere you put 
your finger on the screen and there are even rumours that things like the 
volume buttons on the side maybe touch sensitive areas instead of actual 
buttons. I think in a few years we all should get used to the idea that this 
is the way things will go. One advantage of this of course is that it is 
much easier to make the iPhone even more waterproof, the less mechanical 
buttons/openings there are the easier it is to keep it sealed.
I think in about 3 months the rumours will start to take on more concrete 
form and we'll really start to find out what this falls new iPhones will be 
like. I usually like my toys although as I get older (and hopefully wiser) I 
often don't feel quite as compelled to pick up all the latest gadgets, but 
unless the regular iPhone 7S and 7S Plus have significant improvements I may 
very well hold on to my iPhone 6S Plus for a third year which would be a 
first, so far I have always upgraded after 2 years and, when I bought my 
first iPhone 4 in 2010 I upgraded the next year to the 4S in 2011 beca

RE: iphone 7+ questions.

2017-02-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hard to say what Apple will do regarding pricing, it depends on what size of 7 
Plus you want (currently the options are 32 Gb, 128 Gb and 256 Gb) and it 
depends if you buy on contract or plan to buy outright.
When new phones are released Apple often offers the older phone only in the 
smaller sizes so they may eventually drop the 7 Plus in 256 Gb once the new 
phones have been released. On contract I wouldn't be surprised if you may find 
some $99 deals although a 7 Plus in 128 Gb probably still would cost at least 
$199 on contract.
If you plan to buy a 7 Plus you are only getting the last generation so you can 
always go on the Apple website and compare the price of the current iPhone 7 
Plus and last year's 6S Plus, this should give you an idea of what may come, 
beyond this it's anybody's guess.

The 7 Plus should support iOS at least through to version 14 or 15. Assuming 
Apple continues to count up by one each year, iOS 11 will be released this year 
(2017), iOS 12 will be next year, iOS 13 in 2019, iOS 14 in 2020 and iOS 15 in 
2021.
Below is a listing of iPhones starting with the 3GS in 2009 (the first with 
Voiceover) and which iOS version they were released with:

2009: iPhone 3GS with iOS 3
2010: iPhone 4 with iOS 4
2011: iPhone 4S with iOS 5
2012: iPhone 5/5C with iOS 6
2013: iPhone 5S with iOS 7 (first 64 bit)
2014: iPhone 6/6 Plus with iOS 8
2015: iPhone 6S/6S Plus with iOS 9
2016: iPhone 7/7 Plus with iOS 10
2017: iPhone 7S/7S Plus/iPhone Pro with iOS 11

I didn't list the iPhone SE which was released in March last year sort of half 
way between the 6S/6S Plus and the 7/7plus and which originally came out with 
iOS 9.
The last one for this year is of course speculation as to the name, but rumours 
strongly point towards 3 iPhones this year, a "normal" 7S/7S Plus with a 
possibly new form factor and a new even larger iPhone with all the latest bells 
and whistles like an OLED screen, wireless charging and like the old 4/4S with 
a design which has glass both front and back. The iPhone 6 Plus, 6S Plus and 7 
Plus all have a 5.5 inch screen, this new high-end iPhone which is rumoured to 
cost well above $1,000 US is said to have about a 5.8 inch screen and 
apparently this year it is the only one with OLED screen and wireless charging.

The difference between the old home button and that of the iPhone 7/7 Plus is 
that the new home button really isn't a button at all, it has no mechanical 
part and dos not move/push in at all. There still is a "button-shaped" 
indentation in the screen which gives you the sense there is a button there, 
but it's just part of the glass and when you press it all you get is haptic 
feedback, a vibration similar to what 3D Touch feels like.
Eventually there won't be a hoe button at all and maybe even this years new 
high-end phone could have technology where Touch Id works anywhere you put your 
finger on the screen and there are even rumours that things like the volume 
buttons on the side maybe touch sensitive areas instead of actual buttons. I 
think in a few years we all should get used to the idea that this is the way 
things will go. One advantage of this of course is that it is much easier to 
make the iPhone even more waterproof, the less mechanical buttons/openings 
there are the easier it is to keep it sealed.
I think in about 3 months the rumours will start to take on more concrete form 
and we'll really start to find out what this falls new iPhones will be like. I 
usually like my toys although as I get older (and hopefully wiser) I often 
don't feel quite as compelled to pick up all the latest gadgets, but unless the 
regular iPhone 7S and 7S Plus have significant improvements I may very well 
hold on to my iPhone 6S Plus for a third year which would be a first, so far I 
have always upgraded after 2 years and, when I bought my first iPhone 4 in 2010 
I upgraded the next year to the 4S in 2011 because that is when SIRI was first 
available on the 4S but it was not supported on the 4. I didn't find the 5 
worthwhile and skipped it but upgraded in 2013 to the 5S which was the first 
iPhone with a 64 bit processor, then I again skipped the 6/6 Plus and upgraded 
in 2015 when the 6S/6S Plus came out. Last fall I skipped the 7/7 Plus upgrade 
which I think was pretty minor and the loss of the headphone jack without the 
ability of wireless charging to me is not a good move hence I really want 
wireless charging before I upgrade to an iPhone which I can't charge and use 
with wired headphones at the same time and no, I don't consider having to use a 
$40 splitter to accomplish this a good option and neither do I think the 
current first generation of Airpods live up to their price and technological 
capabilities.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Marissa Solaun
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iphone 7+ questions.

A few