RE: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Hi! This is for the attention of the Moderator ! Every message, every new email is followed by a long list of trailing nails. Is there anyway that we can remove those out? It really is difficult to read the same stuff over and over

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-26 Thread Steve Matzura
Building computers is definitely an acquired skill, and takes patience, persistence, and perspiration. I know, I've been doing it for forty years, back when you used to buy kits from Radio Shack and build these things on breadboard-style circuitboards and wire them with wire-wrap tools. As

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-26 Thread Steve Matzura
car, so you give it to someone else. Andy -Original Message- From: Joseph FreeTech Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta I'm simply posting the person's podcast. It seems your issue lies with him since he probably signed

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-26 Thread Steve Matzura
Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta But if you pass it on, you are just as guilty. Somebody gives you a stolen car, so you give it to someone else. Andy -Original Message- From: Joseph FreeTech Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Review

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-26 Thread Steve Matzura
Don't think it, know it. If you're that concerned, contact Apple and tell them about it. I'm sure the presenter had enough good sense not to let anything out of the barn that isn't supposed to be let out, and if he did, this list is not the place to moan about it. On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:31:57

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-26 Thread Steve Matzura
, 2013 10:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta But if you pass it on, you are just as guilty. Somebody gives you a stolen car, so you give it to someone else. Andy -Original Message- From: Joseph FreeTech Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:41 PM To: viphone

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-26 Thread Steve Matzura
for listening! - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Oh my god! This is getting and will get ridiculous--I can feel it. Everyone, please forgive my desire to inform

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Daniel, Yes, you're exactly right here. to the list, please close this topic immediately. this does in fact fall under an NDA so this sort of discussion is not welcome here. This list is simply not a place for illegal activity or passing on someone else's illegal activity as it were. So if

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
or anything, just seems to make sense. (Shrug) Joseph - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Hi, I’d like to think that that falls under an NDA, which means it’s illegal

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Kliphton, terrific! Please do feel free to discuss this material anywhere else on the web you like, other than here. thanks very much, Cara :) On Aug 24, 2013, at 9:59 PM, kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: And based on the fact that the beta is available to the general public, everyone

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:19 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta But if you pass it on, you are just as guilty. Somebody gives you a stolen car, so you give it to someone else. Andy -Original Message- From: Joseph FreeTech Sent: Saturday, August 24

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread RobH!
Stop worrying man!... by the time it's banned, we'll all have read it anyway. Ta, R. - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Oh my god! This is getting

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread AppleGourmet
Thank you Joseph! That podcast was really well done. Thank you for the information. Vest wishes many blessings! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread juan mojena
Hi Joseph Thank you for posting the information and link for the podcast. I listened and it was most informative. Those legal eagle wannabys should go and get a life. Anything you see that you think is pertinent to this discussion you go on ahead and post it to this list because I

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread juan mojena
Are you the moderator? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joseph, do not continue this line of conversation here. -And in future, do not post illegal or questionable material, no matter how well-intentioned. Thanks very much.

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread juan mojena
I think I will not post any further as I too may fuel this silly fire. Joseph - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:19 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta But if you pass it on, you

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Alan Paganelli
...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Oh my god! This is getting and will get ridiculous--I can feel it. Everyone, please forgive my desire to inform everyone on the list by passing on a little entertainment. Remember, you

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Chuck Dean
joseph.freet...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Oh my god! This is getting and will get ridiculous--I can feel it. Everyone, please forgive my desire to inform everyone on the list by passing on a little

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Joseph FreeTech
to review these rules and possibly prevent the swarm of pseudo-moderators from getting their control jollies. Joseph - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta The point

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Chuck Dean
prevent the swarm of pseudo-moderators from getting their control jollies. Joseph - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta The point is the moderator, creator

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Thank you for your suggestion, but I don't' recall making such a request. Joseph - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta My suggestion is that you start your own

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread juan mojena
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta The point is the moderator, creator and Owner of the group has asked people not to post these things. If you can't follow her rules you should leave. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread juan mojena
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta The point is the moderator, creator and Owner of the group has asked people not to post these things. If you can't follow her rules you should leave. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Alan Paganelli
, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Yet Another deputy. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote: My suggestion is that you start your own Google group. It's free, and you could allow or disallow any content you want. Chuck (mobile

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Daniel Miller
keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: juan mojena jmo...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Yet

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread RobH!
, August 25, 2013 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Cara say to close this topic? Why are people still posting about it? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: This list does seem

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Chris H
Sorry to jump down everyone's throat but yes she is. On 25/08/2013 14:57, juan mojena wrote: Are you the moderator? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joseph, do not continue this line of conversation here. -And in future, do not post

RE: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta My suggestion is that you start your own Google group. It's free, and you could allow or disallow any content you want. Chuck (mobile) Pleez

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Nimit Gmail
Hi! I know this topic is closed, but I felt that was kind of needy to say. Cara and Raul are the moderator. Cara posted that topic be closed so it is coming from the moderator... No worries! I don't mean to go against anyone but just a fact to everyone. Most of us already know, but maybe

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Is this true? I wasn't aware that Apple used public betas for ISO. It was my understanding that IOS betas were private, you needed to buy a developers license to get it and you were covered under an NDA. I found it hard to find anything definitive with Google, since there's so much

Moderator Note -was- Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Juan, not sure if you realize, but as the list owner, I'm asking you now to rethink your stance on your below note. As I've said earlier in this thread, rather than assume no one here as any understanding of what is and is not legal in regard to Apple NDAs, this list's policies are quite

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Joseph Lee
-0500 Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Is this true? I wasn't aware that Apple used public betas for ISO. It was my understanding that IOS betas were private, you needed to buy a developers license to get it and you were covered under an NDA. I found it hard to find anything definitive

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
Hello Juan, yes, as a matter of fact I am. I'm actually the list owner. So enough one-liners and presumptions. close this topic now! Thank you, Cara :) On Aug 25, 2013, at 6:57 AM, juan mojena jmo...@gmail.com wrote: Are you the moderator? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:13 AM,

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your suggestion, but I don't' recall making such a request. Joseph - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta My

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
the swarm of pseudo-moderators from getting their control jollies. Joseph - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta The point is the moderator, creator and Owner

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread Cara Quinn
No worries Kaur, Yes, I actually realized after I posted those notes that I did not put Moderator note in the subject line so somewhat my bad. :) Thanks for the reminder and do have an awesome day! Smiles, Cara :) On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Nimit Gmail kaur.ni...@gmail.com wrote: Kaur --

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-25 Thread AppleGourmet
Hi! This is for the attention of the Moderator ! Every message, every new email is followed by a long list of trailing nails. Is there anyway that we can remove those out? It really is difficult to read the same stuff over and over and overagain, all red faithfuly by voice over! Thank you

Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread Joseph FreeTech
HI All, Earlier today I came across the following podcast demo from the Cool Blind Tech website. Looks like IOS 7 has some cool new accessibility features for us. The presenter Shawn is one of the most technically skilled people I've come across in the blind population of computer users. He

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, I’d like to think that that falls under an NDA, which means it’s illegal to disclose that info in that form until the release has been made public. Would a list moderator please clarify this for me? I take the premature posting of things like this to public lists/forums extremely seriously.

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread Joseph FreeTech
to sound like a smart alec or anything, just seems to make sense. (Shrug) Joseph - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta Hi, I’d like to think that that falls

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread kliphton
And based on the fact that the beta is available to the general public, everyone is talking about it anyway? JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,Instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!)

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread Andy Baracco
But if you pass it on, you are just as guilty. Somebody gives you a stolen car, so you give it to someone else. Andy -Original Message- From: Joseph FreeTech Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta I'm simply posting

RE: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
or discuss which are more useful. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta But if you pass

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread Joseph FreeTech
fire. Joseph - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:19 PM Subject: Re: Review of IOS7 Beta But if you pass it on, you are just as guilty. Somebody gives you a stolen car, so you give it to someone else

Re: Review of IOS7 Beta

2013-08-24 Thread Joseph FreeTech
I vote Yay on Seagart's suggestion. Joseph - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Review of IOS7 Beta Joseph, Daniel, Kliphton, Andy and all, Why don't we all wait and see what