Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-30 Thread goshawk on horseback
exactly. I like those, as I love to swim underwater as well.

Simon


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From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?


Right, and lakes aren't bad, especially if you know how to swim for those 
drop off places, where they get deeper.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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Importance: High

if possible, give it a go, especially if you like swimming a good distance.
lakes are natures own swimming pools.

Simon


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Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?


AIRA is probably your best bet or maybe one of the apps that uses AI
could help some how. MMM I must admit I miss swimming. I plan on
getting quite a bit done this summer. I love the ocean and pools. Have
not been swimming in a lake yet though.

On 3/29/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is the
> one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual membership.
> I
> cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The nearest would
> anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
>
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I
> would
> get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put
> lane  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other people
> must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on it
> which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something please
> suggest!
> I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come up
> with a solution! Thanks for your help!
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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-30 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Right, and lakes aren't bad, especially if you know how to swim for those drop 
off places, where they get deeper. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Importance: High

if possible, give it a go, especially if you like swimming a good distance.
lakes are natures own swimming pools.

Simon


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Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?


AIRA is probably your best bet or maybe one of the apps that uses AI
could help some how. MMM I must admit I miss swimming. I plan on
getting quite a bit done this summer. I love the ocean and pools. Have
not been swimming in a lake yet though.

On 3/29/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is the
> one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual membership. 
> I
> cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The nearest would
> anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
>
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I 
> would
> get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put
> lane  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other people
> must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on it
> which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something please
> suggest!
> I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come up
> with a solution! Thanks for your help!
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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Marie Lyons
I swim laps at the Y. The lifeguard clears the lane by the wall for me. As I 
swim I trace the wall with my fingers.


Marie Lyons 

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> On Mar 29, 2019, at 3:15 PM, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> 
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is the one 
> I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual membership. I 
> cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The nearest would anyway 
> be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
> 
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I would 
> get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put lane 
>  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other people 
> must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on it which 
> would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something please suggest!
> I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come up 
> with a solution! Thanks for your help!
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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread goshawk on horseback
if possible, give it a go, especially if you like swimming a good distance.
lakes are natures own swimming pools.

Simon


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From: "lenron brown" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?


AIRA is probably your best bet or maybe one of the apps that uses AI
could help some how. MMM I must admit I miss swimming. I plan on
getting quite a bit done this summer. I love the ocean and pools. Have
not been swimming in a lake yet though.

On 3/29/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is the
> one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual membership. 
> I
> cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The nearest would
> anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
>
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I 
> would
> get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put
> lane  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other people
> must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on it
> which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something please
> suggest!
> I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come up
> with a solution! Thanks for your help!
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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread goshawk on horseback
I am not exactly any sort of geography expert, but unless you are in the 
middle of the sahara or something, surely there is a stretch of river, or a 
lake closer than 2000m away?

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "karuna Chopra" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?


The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is the 
one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual membership. I 
cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The nearest would 
anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!

This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I would 
get a solution.
I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put 
lane  markers on the pool   now.
I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other people 
must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on it 
which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something please 
suggest!
I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come up 
with a solution! Thanks for your help!

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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Carolyn Arnold
We had one, and I used to turn on the radio, get in the thing and swim the 
afternoon away. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

So ... a low-tech option perhaps.
My mother was considering getting one of those endless pools that generate a 
current for you to swim against, but she ended up not going for it. Price tag 
aside, it just seemed like overkill and a hassle to maintain.
She got one of those round above ground pools. Tied one end of a bungee cord to 
a post close to her house and the other end she clips on to a belt she wears 
when swimming and proceeds to swim away for as long as she wants.
It's sunny in So Cal almost all year long, so maybe an above ground pool isn't 
going to be an option for a lot of folks, but perhaps an option for some.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

AIRA is probably your best bet or maybe one of the apps that uses AI could help 
some how. MMM I must admit I miss swimming. I plan on getting quite a bit done 
this summer. I love the ocean and pools. Have not been swimming in a lake yet 
though.

On 3/29/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is 
> the one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual 
> membership. I cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The 
> nearest would anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
>
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I 
> would get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put
> lane  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other 
> people must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on 
> it which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something 
> please suggest!
> I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come 
> up with a solution! Thanks for your help!
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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The Apple Watch is waterproof, but while it can track your swim in terms of the 
workout, it doesn't have a camera and even if it did there is no software which 
would translate anything it sees into what Karuna wants. In any case, if you 
have the watch on your wrist it's mostly submerged and always moving and 
certainly it's not pointing straight ahead of you.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

Would an iWatch do it, or are they not that water proof? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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kitty hevener
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

Hi, II to keep this on topic, I will say that I do not know of any I phone aps 
that would help.  Maybe, aira, but that could get costly in a hurry!!  I like 
to swim too and am totally blind.  Putting in tactual lane lines is about the 
easiest way to keep you from bumping in to other swimmers, if you have a lane 
to yourself.  In some settings, I have seen a concept of circle swim.  I tried 
it once, with a lifeguard trying to help me pace.  I felt like I was in a 
contact sport.  So, finally got that facility to arrange so that I either had 
the lane to myself, or was only sharing with one person. 
Each of us would stay on one side of the lane.  So, if the lane line would be 
on your left going down, it would be on your right as you returned.  Hope that 
helps.

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From: karuna Chopra
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:45 AM
To: ViPhone
Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a
50 meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of people 
using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide with no 
lanes marked on it.
Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 
pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.
The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 
petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with them! 

When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my AirPods 
and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay connected to my 
friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was swimming in front or 
behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement all the time.
Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to avoid 
colliding into anyone in the swimming pool without external help?

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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Karuna,

You wrote: I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other 
people must be facing this problem as well.
Honestly, I am sure blind people go swimming, I do swim in our local community 
pool mostly in the winter, but since they have lane swimming twice a day for an 
hour or so it's not usually an issue for me and, as I said, if I called ahead 
and asked to come in during a more quiet time when there aren't any school 
groups, swimming club or other lessons they would put in a lane for me no 
problem. Does a public pool exist which doesn't have the rope with the round 
floaty things on it which they can stretch from end to end? This really is not 
a difficult thing to do and especially if I paid a good amount of money for 
access to this pool I would simply make an issue out of this if they weren't 
willing to accommodate me.
Just out of curiosity, how many times do you go each week and for how long do 
you swim?

You also wrote: Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a 
camera on it which would then worn me if something is coming in front?
There are of course the action cameras like a Go Pro which are waterproof and 
so on, but the technology you envision simply does not exist and I doubt it 
ever will considering how many blind people would want it. I'm surprised what 
you described earlier works, i.e. taping your Airpods to your ears, I think 
they would still get wet and I didn't know they were waterproof to the point 
they can be submerged. Of course there are other waterproof headsets out there, 
but you would still need somebody who watches you all the time and who has some 
sort of connection to your Bluetooth headset so he can talk to you while you 
swim.
I downhill ski and have a set of radios which have a headset and allow for a 
full duplex connection so you can talk and hear at the same time just as on a 
phone call, but they are not waterproof. Of course for skiing nowadays one 
could easily use a cell phone and a helmet with built-in Bluetooth speakers as 
long as the ski area where you ski has cell coverage on all the runs. In the 
pool you could achieve something similar if you had an LTE Apple Watch and a 
waterproof headset, you could then simply ask a sighted person to call you and 
once you pick up the call you could start swimming and get instructions from 
your sighted helper, but they would have to be at one end of the pool where 
they could watch you and the other people.
My final question is this: What would happen if you swam along one edge of the 
pool so you have the edge as a reference and you could ask the lifeguard to let 
people know that you are a blind swimmer and not to get in your way?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

So ... a low-tech option perhaps.
My mother was considering getting one of those endless pools that generate a 
current for you to swim against, but she ended up not going for it. Price tag 
aside, it just seemed like overkill and a hassle to maintain.
She got one of those round above ground pools. Tied one end of a bungee cord to 
a post close to her house and the other end she clips on to a belt she wears 
when swimming and proceeds to swim away for as long as she wants.
It's sunny in So Cal almost all year long, so maybe an above ground pool isn't 
going to be an option for a lot of folks, but perhaps an option for some.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

AIRA is probably your best bet or maybe one of the apps that uses AI could help 
some how. MMM I must admit I miss swimming. I plan on getting quite a bit done 
this summer. I love the ocean and pools. Have not been swimming in a lake yet 
though.

On 3/29/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is 
> the one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual 
> membership. I cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The 
> nearest would anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
>
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I 
> would get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put
> lane  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other 
> people must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on 
> it which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something 
> please suggest!
> I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to com

RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Would an iWatch do it, or are they not that water proof? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

Hi, II to keep this on topic, I will say that I do not know of any I phone aps 
that would help.  Maybe, aira, but that could get costly in a hurry!!  I like 
to swim too and am totally blind.  Putting in tactual lane lines is about the 
easiest way to keep you from bumping in to other swimmers, if you have a lane 
to yourself.  In some settings, I have seen a concept of circle swim.  I tried 
it once, with a lifeguard trying to help me pace.  I felt like I was in a 
contact sport.  So, finally got that facility to arrange so that I either had 
the lane to myself, or was only sharing with one person. 
Each of us would stay on one side of the lane.  So, if the lane line would be 
on your left going down, it would be on your right as you returned.  Hope that 
helps.

-Original Message-
From: karuna Chopra
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:45 AM
To: ViPhone
Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a
50 meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of people 
using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide with no 
lanes marked on it.
Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 
pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.
The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 
petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with them! 

When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my AirPods 
and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay connected to my 
friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was swimming in front or 
behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement all the time.
Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to avoid 
colliding into anyone in the swimming pool without external help?

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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
So ... a low-tech option perhaps.
My mother was considering getting one of those endless pools that generate a 
current for you to swim against, but she ended up not going for it. Price tag 
aside, it just seemed like overkill and a hassle to maintain.
She got one of those round above ground pools. Tied one end of a bungee cord to 
a post close to her house and the other end she clips on to a belt she wears 
when swimming and proceeds to swim away for as long as she wants.
It's sunny in So Cal almost all year long, so maybe an above ground pool isn't 
going to be an option for a lot of folks, but perhaps an option for some.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

AIRA is probably your best bet or maybe one of the apps that uses AI could help 
some how. MMM I must admit I miss swimming. I plan on getting quite a bit done 
this summer. I love the ocean and pools. Have not been swimming in a lake yet 
though.

On 3/29/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is 
> the one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual 
> membership. I cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The 
> nearest would anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
>
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I 
> would get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put
> lane  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other 
> people must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on 
> it which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something 
> please suggest!
> I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come 
> up with a solution! Thanks for your help!
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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread lenron brown
AIRA is probably your best bet or maybe one of the apps that uses AI
could help some how. MMM I must admit I miss swimming. I plan on
getting quite a bit done this summer. I love the ocean and pools. Have
not been swimming in a lake yet though.

On 3/29/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is the
> one I have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual membership. I
> cannot now go and start looking for open water swim! The nearest would
> anyway be about 2000 miles away! That’s impossible!
>
> This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I would
> get a solution.
> I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put
> lane  markers on the pool   now.
> I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other people
> must be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
> Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on it
> which would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something please
> suggest!
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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread karuna Chopra
The only heated pool, with ozone filtration to which I have access is the one I 
have now. I paid a huge amount of money to get an annual membership. I cannot 
now go and start looking for open water swim! The nearest would anyway be about 
2000 miles away! That’s impossible!

This is such a high tech group of tech savvy technocrats! I was sure I would 
get a solution.
I have checked with the swimming pool administrators and they cannot put lane  
markers on the pool   now.
I’m sure there must be some solution for my problem. I’m sure other people must 
be facing this problem as well. How do they cope with it?
Can I  mount a camera on my forehead, wear a helmet with a camera on it which 
would then worn me if something is coming in front? Something please suggest!
I’m sure enough people must be facing this problem for someone to come up with 
a solution! Thanks for your help!

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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Yeah… The only way you’re getting me into a “body of water” is if it’s got 
ceramic and a drain at the bottom of it.

Hard pass.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

 

Hi Simon,

 

When you talk about open water swimming, do you mean outdoor pools or lakes or 
the ocean?

Of course many of us live in areas where it would be not possible to get to a 
lake or the ocean if it is nearby, without assistance simply because there may 
not be any public transportation going out to a lake that is maybe 10 or 20 Km 
away. Then there is the little issue of climate, maybe you live in a place that 
is warm year-round and where the water in any lakes or the ocean is warm enough 
to swim, but if I wanted to swim in a lake I'd need scuba gear and would have 
to chop a hole in the ice for 6 months of the year, but then again diving under 
the ice would probably not really qualify as swimming, either 藍

Then for 4 out of the other 6 months I would have to wear a wetsuit or risk 
hypothermia!

If the pool is nearby and convenient then I don't think it would be too much to 
ask to have them put in a lane a few times a week if one wants to swim for half 
an hour or even an  hour.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?
Importance: High

 

if possible, have you thought about switching to open water swimming instead?

then, you would generally be in larger areas of water, and with fewer people 
around.

also, hearing any other people would be easier, thus making avoiding them 
easier as well, as you don't get all of the noise and echoes that plague a lot 
of indoor pools.

 

Simon

 

 

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To: "ViPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:45 AM

Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

 

 

I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a 

50 meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of 

people using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide 

with no lanes marked on it.

Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 

pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.

The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 

petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with 

them! 

When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my 

AirPods and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay 

connected to my friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was 

swimming in front or behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement 

all the time.

Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to 

avoid colliding into anyone in the swimming pool without external help?

 

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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread kitty hevener
Hi, II to keep this on topic, I will say that I do not know of any I phone 
aps that would help.  Maybe, aira, but that could get costly in a hurry!!  I 
like to swim too and am totally blind.  Putting in tactual lane lines is 
about the easiest way to keep you from bumping in to other swimmers, if you 
have a lane to yourself.  In some settings, I have seen a concept of circle 
swim.  I tried it once, with a lifeguard trying to help me pace.  I felt 
like I was in a contact sport.  So, finally got that facility to arrange so 
that I either had the lane to myself, or was only sharing with one person. 
Each of us would stay on one side of the lane.  So, if the lane line would 
be on your left going down, it would be on your right as you returned.  Hope 
that helps.


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From: karuna Chopra

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:45 AM
To: ViPhone
Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a 
50 meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of 
people using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide 
with no lanes marked on it.
Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 
pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.
The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 
petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with 
them! 
When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my 
AirPods and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay 
connected to my friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was 
swimming in front or behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement 
all the time.
Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to 
avoid colliding into anyone in the swimming pool without external help?


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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread goshawk on horseback
in general, yes, I do mean lakes, rivers, or the sea. 
I am in the UK, but do swim outdoors all year round, and love it! 

Simon 


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  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:35 AM
  Subject: RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?


  Hi Simon,

   

  When you talk about open water swimming, do you mean outdoor pools or lakes 
or the ocean?

  Of course many of us live in areas where it would be not possible to get to a 
lake or the ocean if it is nearby, without assistance simply because there may 
not be any public transportation going out to a lake that is maybe 10 or 20 Km 
away. Then there is the little issue of climate, maybe you live in a place that 
is warm year-round and where the water in any lakes or the ocean is warm enough 
to swim, but if I wanted to swim in a lake I'd need scuba gear and would have 
to chop a hole in the ice for 6 months of the year, but then again diving under 
the ice would probably not really qualify as swimming, either 藍

  Then for 4 out of the other 6 months I would have to wear a wetsuit or risk 
hypothermia!

  If the pool is nearby and convenient then I don't think it would be too much 
to ask to have them put in a lane a few times a week if one wants to swim for 
half an hour or even an  hour.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

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goshawk on horseback
  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:05 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?
  Importance: High

   

  if possible, have you thought about switching to open water swimming instead?

  then, you would generally be in larger areas of water, and with fewer people 
around.

  also, hearing any other people would be easier, thus making avoiding them 
easier as well, as you don't get all of the noise and echoes that plague a lot 
of indoor pools.

   

  Simon

   

   

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  From: "karuna Chopra" 

  To: "ViPhone" 

  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:45 AM

  Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

   

   

  I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a 

  50 meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of 

  people using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide 

  with no lanes marked on it.

  Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 

  pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.

  The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 

  petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with 

  them! 

  When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my 

  AirPods and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay 

  connected to my friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was 

  swimming in front or behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement 

  all the time.

  Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to 

  avoid colliding into anyone in the swimming pool without external help?

   

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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Simon,



When you talk about open water swimming, do you mean outdoor pools or lakes or 
the ocean?

Of course many of us live in areas where it would be not possible to get to a 
lake or the ocean if it is nearby, without assistance simply because there may 
not be any public transportation going out to a lake that is maybe 10 or 20 Km 
away. Then there is the little issue of climate, maybe you live in a place that 
is warm year-round and where the water in any lakes or the ocean is warm enough 
to swim, but if I wanted to swim in a lake I'd need scuba gear and would have 
to chop a hole in the ice for 6 months of the year, but then again diving under 
the ice would probably not really qualify as swimming, either 藍

Then for 4 out of the other 6 months I would have to wear a wetsuit or risk 
hypothermia!

If the pool is nearby and convenient then I don't think it would be too much to 
ask to have them put in a lane a few times a week if one wants to swim for half 
an hour or even an  hour.



Regards,

Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?
Importance: High



if possible, have you thought about switching to open water swimming instead?

then, you would generally be in larger areas of water, and with fewer people 
around.

also, hearing any other people would be easier, thus making avoiding them 
easier as well, as you don't get all of the noise and echoes that plague a lot 
of indoor pools.



Simon





- Original Message -

From: "karuna Chopra" 

To: "ViPhone" 

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:45 AM

Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?





I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a

50 meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of

people using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide

with no lanes marked on it.

Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the

pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.

The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am

petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with

them! 

When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my

AirPods and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay

connected to my friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was

swimming in front or behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement

all the time.

Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to

avoid colliding into anyone in the swimming pool without external help?



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Re: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread goshawk on horseback
if possible, have you thought about switching to open water swimming 
instead?
then, you would generally be in larger areas of water, and with fewer people 
around.
also, hearing any other people would be easier, thus making avoiding them 
easier as well, as you don't get all of the noise and echoes that plague a 
lot of indoor pools.

Simon


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From: "karuna Chopra" 
To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:45 AM
Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?


I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a 
50 meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of 
people using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide 
with no lanes marked on it.
Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 
pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.
The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 
petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with 
them! 
When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my 
AirPods and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay 
connected to my friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was 
swimming in front or behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement 
all the time.
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RE: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Couldn't you ask for a lane to be put in? I find it strange that there is no 
lane swimming during certain times of the day, but I would certainly not 
hesitate to ask, it wouldn't take away from the pool experience of others if 
they put in one single lane along one side of the pool for you.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karuna 
Chopra
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:45 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a 50 
meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of people 
using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide with no 
lanes marked on it.
Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 
pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.
The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 
petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with them! 
 
When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my AirPods 
and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay connected to my 
friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was swimming in front or 
behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement all the time. 
Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to avoid 
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Swimming pool collision avoidance system?

2019-03-28 Thread karuna Chopra
I really enjoy and love swimming. I go swimming to my club where there is a 50 
meter pool. Are usually try and go went there at the least number of people 
using the swimming pool. The swimming pool is 50 m long and 25 m wide with no 
lanes marked on it.
Are usually swim very  straight. If there is only one other swimmer in the 
pool, I have no problems in avoiding them.
The problem arises when two or more other swimmers enter the pool. I am 
petrified of swimming either into them or having a head-on collision with them! 
 
When I have a buddy outside by the side of the pool, I would put on my AirPods 
and tape them to my year with waterproof tape. I would stay connected to my 
friends iPhone and he would pass instructions on who was swimming in front or 
behind me. Unfortunately I can’t have this arrangement all the time. 
Has anybody ever felt this problem? Is there some way that I can use to avoid 
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