RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-21 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I haven't had any problems with IOS 17 and my braille displays. In fact, I 
think things have gotten better, and I see a few new features related to 
braille displays that I still need to experiment with.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

There is no advantage to wait, in the current release of iOS 17 there are no 
major issues which are fixed in iOS 17.1, at least not to my knowledge.
Some people seem to be having issues with braille displays, but since I have 
never used one and never will I can't speak to this and it would appear from 
the messages I have seen, that the problems may have to do with the particular 
set of settings on a phone because other people who use the same braille 
display don't have them.
It's unfortunate that Apple seems to be introducing issues which are 
specifically related to certain settings as these are hard to pin down.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 16.6.1.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt White
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
>
> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it
> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>
>
> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems
> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular,
> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't
> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone
> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration
> sound to fall back on.
>
>
> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor,
> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your
>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went
>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not
>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For
>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower
>>>> than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set
>>>> fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm
>>>> still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish
>>>> noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the
>>>> sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that
>>>> case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the
>>>> sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the
>>>> record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>>
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-21 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I don't have a braille display or a peripheral keyboard, so maybe I'll be all 
right with the update. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

There is no advantage to wait, in the current release of iOS 17 there are no 
major issues which are fixed in iOS 17.1, at least not to my knowledge.
Some people seem to be having issues with braille displays, but since I have 
never used one and never will I can't speak to this and it would appear from 
the messages I have seen, that the problems may have to do with the particular 
set of settings on a phone because other people who use the same braille 
display don't have them.
It's unfortunate that Apple seems to be introducing issues which are 
specifically related to certain settings as these are hard to pin down.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 16.6.1. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt White
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> 
> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds. 
> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing. 
> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, 
> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't 
> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone 
> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration 
> sound to fall back on.
> 
> 
> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the 
>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower 
>>>> than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set 
>>>> fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm 
>>>> still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish 
>>>> noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the 
>>>> sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that 
>>>> case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the 
>>>> sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the 
>>>> record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>> 
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> 
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-21 Thread Carolyn Arnold
That will be great. That will be about the time that my daughter-in-love's new 
15 Pro Max will arrive. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

Supposedly this coming Monday, the 24th of October, according to a recent 
article in "Mac Rumors".
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 20 oct 2023, a la(s) 5:54 p.m., Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
> escribió:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in 
>> particular, the default tones for in coming texts and push 
>> notifications doesn't seem to be as loud as with previous versions of 
>> iOS, so if the phone is across the room and I get a text, I at least 
>> have the vibration sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
>>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
>>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
>>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust 
>>>>> the volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
>>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be 
>>>>> lower than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume 
>>>>> set fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, 
>>>>> but I'm still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, 
>>>>> the swish noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I 
>>>>> understand the sound volume is lower for the default notification 
>>>>> sounds. In that case though I have my phone set to vibrate along 
>>>>> with making the sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise 
>>>>> the volume? For the record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> 
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-21 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I have a 14 Pro. I have just heard of so many issues with 17, that I decided to 
wait for 17.1. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt White
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

If you are still running 16.6, I wonder if your phone is maybe not supported 
with iOS 17.
What model phone do you have?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:54, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in 
>> particular, the default tones for in coming texts and push 
>> notifications doesn't seem to be as loud as with previous versions of 
>> iOS, so if the phone is across the room and I get a text, I at least 
>> have the vibration sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
>>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
>>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
>>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust 
>>>>> the volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
>>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be 
>>>>> lower than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume 
>>>>> set fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, 
>>>>> but I'm still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, 
>>>>> the swish noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I 
>>>>> understand the sound volume is lower for the default notification 
>>>>> sounds. In that case though I have my phone set to vibrate along 
>>>>> with making the sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise 
>>>>> the volume? For the record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> 
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>>>> iPhone list.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
>>>> The archives for this list can 

RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-21 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Good to know; thanks. I look forward to getting it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

iOS 17.1 should be coming up next week. The release candidate was made 
available earlier this week so barring any showstoppers, everybody should be 
getting it sometime early next week.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 4:54 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in 
>> particular, the default tones for in coming texts and push 
>> notifications doesn't seem to be as loud as with previous versions of 
>> iOS, so if the phone is across the room and I get a text, I at least 
>> have the vibration sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
>>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
>>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
>>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust 
>>>>> the volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
>>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be 
>>>>> lower than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume 
>>>>> set fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, 
>>>>> but I'm still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, 
>>>>> the swish noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I 
>>>>> understand the sound volume is lower for the default notification 
>>>>> sounds. In that case though I have my phone set to vibrate along 
>>>>> with making the sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise 
>>>>> the volume? For the record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> iPhone list.
>>>> 
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>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 
>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on 
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>>>> 
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>>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
>>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
>>>> The archives for

RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
There is no advantage to wait, in the current release of iOS 17 there are no 
major issues which are fixed in iOS 17.1, at least not to my knowledge.
Some people seem to be having issues with braille displays, but since I have 
never used one and never will I can't speak to this and it would appear from 
the messages I have seen, that the problems may have to do with the particular 
set of settings on a phone because other people who use the same braille 
display don't have them.
It's unfortunate that Apple seems to be introducing issues which are 
specifically related to certain settings as these are hard to pin down.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 16.6.1. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt White
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> 
> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds. 
> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing. 
> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, 
> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't 
> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone 
> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration 
> sound to fall back on.
> 
> 
> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the 
>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower 
>>>> than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set 
>>>> fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm 
>>>> still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish 
>>>> noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the 
>>>> sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that 
>>>> case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the 
>>>> sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the 
>>>> record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>> 
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> 
>>> --
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>>> iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 
>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the 
>>> list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:
>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Supposedly this coming Monday, the 24th of October, according to a recent 
article in "Mac Rumors".
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 20 oct 2023, a la(s) 5:54 p.m., Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
> escribió:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular,
>> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't
>> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone
>> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration
>> sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor,
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your
>>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went
>>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not
>>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
>>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For
>>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower
>>>>> than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set
>>>>> fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm
>>>>> still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish
>>>>> noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the
>>>>> sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that
>>>>> case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the
>>>>> sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the
>>>>> record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> 
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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Matt White
If you are still running 16.6, I wonder if your phone is maybe not supported 
with iOS 17.
What model phone do you have?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:54, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular,
>> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't
>> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone
>> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration
>> sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor,
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your
>>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went
>>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not
>>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
>>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For
>>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower
>>>>> than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set
>>>>> fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm
>>>>> still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish
>>>>> noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the
>>>>> sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that
>>>>> case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the
>>>>> sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the
>>>>> record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> 
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Wayne,

I don't know if this will help but it is certainly a good place to start.

>From the Settings menu:

1.
Select Face ID and Passcode.

2.
Toggle "Attention Aware Features" to off.

3.
Return to the previous screen and then reboot your device.

Wayne, be certain that you select Attention aware features.  This is a separate 
setting from the require Face ID attention toggle.

I hope this helps.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 12:57 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: System sounds lower in iOS 17

Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the volume of 
the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever reason, my system 
and notification sounds seem to be lower than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my 
sound and alert volume set fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they 
go off, but I'm still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the 
swish noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound 
volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have 
my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a setting I can 
adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.

Warmly,
Wayne

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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Julian
iOS 17.1 should be coming up next week. The release candidate was made 
available earlier this week so barring any showstoppers, everybody should be 
getting it sometime early next week.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 4:54 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 
> 16.6.1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Matt White
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it
>> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lisa Belville" 
>> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.
>> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.
>> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems
>> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular,
>> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't
>> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone
>> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration
>> sound to fall back on.
>> 
>> 
>> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor,
>> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your
>>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went
>>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not
>>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lisa Belville
>>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
>>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For
>>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower
>>>>> than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set
>>>>> fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm
>>>>> still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish
>>>>> noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the
>>>>> sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that
>>>>> case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the
>>>>> sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the
>>>>> record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> 
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Carolyn Arnold
When is 17.1 going to be available? I am waiting for it to update from 16.6.1. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt White
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it 
> louder for you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> 
> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds. 
> I don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing. 
> But I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems 
> like the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, 
> the default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't 
> seem to be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone 
> is across the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration 
> sound to fall back on.
> 
> 
> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, 
> so I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your 
>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went 
>>> back to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not 
>>> very loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the 
>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For 
>>>> whatever reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower 
>>>> than the VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set 
>>>> fairly high, so that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm 
>>>> still having trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish 
>>>> noise when a text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the 
>>>> sound volume is lower for the default notification sounds. In that 
>>>> case though I have my phone set to vibrate along with making the 
>>>> sound. Is there a setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the 
>>>> record, I'm running iOS 17.0.3.
>>>> 
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> 
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RE: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I have Descend set for my messages. It is loud, and with my hearing problem, it 
serves me well. I am not as concerned about emails as I am texts, because I 
prefer using my computer for them. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

What's your VO volume set to?  Try adjusting that instead of your notification 
sounds, or try picking another sound for mail.  I went back to the old text 
tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very loud, even with my alert 
volume set high.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the 
> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever 
> reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the 
> VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so 
> that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having 
> trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a 
> text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is 
> lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have 
> my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a 
> setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running 
> iOS 17.0.3.
>
> Warmly,
> Wayne
>

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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Matt White
This is a bug that seems to have been fixed with iOS 17.1.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 19:12, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it louder for
> you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lisa Belville" 
> To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17
> 
> 
> Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds. I
> don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing. But
> I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems like
> the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, the
> default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't seem to
> be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone is across
> the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration sound to fall
> back on.
> 
> 
> I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, so
> I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
>> On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your
>>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went back
>>> to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very
>>> loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
>>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
>>>> reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
>>>> VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
>>>> that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
>>>> trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
>>>> text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
>>>> lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
>>>> my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
>>>> setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
>>>> iOS 17.0.3.
>>>> 
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> 
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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Lisa which text tone do you prefer: I can record it and make it louder for 
you then you can ad it like a ring tone and use it for text.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lisa Belville" 
To: ; "Wayne Merritt" 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17


Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds. I
don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing. But
I've missed notifications before. Never a call, because it seems like
the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, the
default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't seem to
be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone is across
the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration sound to fall
back on.


I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, so
I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.


Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.





Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>> What's your VO volume set to? Try adjusting that instead of your
>> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail. I went back
>> to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very
>> loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>
>> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
>>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
>>> reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
>>> VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
>>> that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
>>> trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
>>> text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
>>> lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
>>> my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
>>> setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
>>> iOS 17.0.3.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Wayne
>>>
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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.  I 
don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.  But 
I've missed notifications before.  Never a call, because it seems like 
the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, the 
default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't seem to 
be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone is across 
the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration sound to fall 
back on.



I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, so 
I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.



Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.





Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.

Wayne

On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:

What's your VO volume set to?  Try adjusting that instead of your
notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail.  I went back
to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very
loud, even with my alert volume set high.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
iOS 17.0.3.

Warmly,
Wayne


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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Wayne Merritt
My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.

Wayne

On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:
> What's your VO volume set to?  Try adjusting that instead of your
> notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail.  I went back
> to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very
> loud, even with my alert volume set high.
>
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
>> volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
>> reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
>> VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
>> that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
>> trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
>> text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
>> lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
>> my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
>> setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
>> iOS 17.0.3.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Wayne
>>
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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Lisa Belville
What's your VO volume set to?  Try adjusting that instead of your 
notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail.  I went back 
to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very 
loud, even with my alert volume set high.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
iOS 17.0.3.

Warmly,
Wayne



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System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Wayne Merritt
Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
iOS 17.0.3.

Warmly,
Wayne

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