RE: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

[Chip Orange]

I think she and others were inquiring about "hotspot" devices which you can buy 
in electronics stores, as an alternative to use of your phone for this purpose.

These are cell modems coupled with the electronics to create a wireless access 
point, and for which you must purchase service (one named My-Fi was very 
popular).  You could buy service in small amounts (enough to take it on a 
vacation for instance) without having to sign up for a contractual arrangement, 
or you could sign up to have it pull from a credit card every time you ran out 
of credits.  These were especially popular for those who   purchases a wi-fi 
only iPad or other tablet.  I haven't checked lately to see who is still 
selling these (at one time Virgin Mobile, Track Phone, My-Fi, were just some 
brands selling these devices, which ran around $100 or so).

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

Hi Beverly,

When you say " I to only have Internet through my hotspot. I wish I could find 
a company that I could use also" can you explain exactly what you have and are 
looking for? I guess any wireless modem or router creates a hotspot in a way, 
when you turn on Personal Hotspot on your iPhone the phone basically becomes a 
mini wireless router or access point and it allows devices to connect to it 
either by plugging it in to a computer or wirelessly and then said devices can 
access the iPhones internet connection. A wireless modem given to you by your 
internet provider is no different except it usually has some more ports to plug 
things into and it is hardwired to obtain its own internet connection. Such 
modems are either plugged into a phone line which is ADSL or they are modems 
from your cable company where the connection to the internet is provided via 
your cable line or they may be a fibre connection which is the fastest 
connection available. Regardless of which technology is used, ADSL, cable or 
fibre, the modem or router than generates the WiFi network which you connect to 
in your home. 
I left out one more type above and that is the so-called smart hub, some places 
it is called a My-Fi or pocket Wi-Fi. These devices themselves connect to the 
internet wirelessly just as a cell phone does, they typically have a SIM card 
and connect to whichever 3G or 4G/LTE network you buy them from (e.g. Verizon, 
AT, T-Mobile) etc. Then again they generated a WiFi network locally which you 
connect to. These devices are most like what you have when you use your iPhone 
with Personal Hotspot.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Beverly Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

I would be interested in hearing about this as well. I to only have Internet 
through my hotspot. I wish I could find a company that I could use also.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Personal hotspot allows you to share the internet of the phone to other 
> devices. Your phone becomes like a wifi provider. 
> There are also devices that connect to cellular networks and create a wifi 
> network for your devices. With some companies you have to call them to enable 
> personal hotspot and some have extra charges.
> 
> Hope this helps a bit.
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have an older gentleman friend, who has an iPhone 5S, I believe. 
>> Technology tends to make him a bit nervous. But he tries hard to 
>> understand things.
>> 
>> 
>> He wants to get a wireless hot-spot for his home, because he doesn't 
>> have internet from 1 of the companies that are offered out here.
>> 
>> 
>> I want to help him out, and I can usually answer a lot of his questions. 
>> But this is 1 I don't really understand myself.
>> 
>> 
>> How does a hot-spot work?
>> 
>> Don't you already have to have internet, in order to be able to use a 
>> wireless hot-spot?
>> 
>> I know that on our phones, there is an option to turn wireless 
>> hot-spot on. But I thought that you could use your phone like this, 
>> if you were in public, and you wanted to connect to the WIFI that was 
>> there, wherever you were.
>> 
>> Is this not the case?
>> 
>> 
>> He told me he bought a hot-spot from Walmart a few days ago,

RE: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Beverly,

When you say " I to only have Internet through my hotspot. I wish I could find 
a company that I could use also" can you explain exactly what you have and are 
looking for? I guess any wireless modem or router creates a hotspot in a way, 
when you turn on Personal Hotspot on your iPhone the phone basically becomes a 
mini wireless router or access point and it allows devices to connect to it 
either by plugging it in to a computer or wirelessly and then said devices can 
access the iPhones internet connection. A wireless modem given to you by your 
internet provider is no different except it usually has some more ports to plug 
things into and it is hardwired to obtain its own internet connection. Such 
modems are either plugged into a phone line which is ADSL or they are modems 
from your cable company where the connection to the internet is provided via 
your cable line or they may be a fibre connection which is the fastest 
connection available. Regardless of which technology is used, ADSL, cable or 
fibre, the modem or router than generates the WiFi network which you connect to 
in your home. 
I left out one more type above and that is the so-called smart hub, some places 
it is called a My-Fi or pocket Wi-Fi. These devices themselves connect to the 
internet wirelessly just as a cell phone does, they typically have a SIM card 
and connect to whichever 3G or 4G/LTE network you buy them from (e.g. Verizon, 
AT, T-Mobile) etc. Then again they generated a WiFi network locally which you 
connect to. These devices are most like what you have when you use your iPhone 
with Personal Hotspot.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Beverly Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

I would be interested in hearing about this as well. I to only have Internet 
through my hotspot. I wish I could find a company that I could use also.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Personal hotspot allows you to share the internet of the phone to other 
> devices. Your phone becomes like a wifi provider. 
> There are also devices that connect to cellular networks and create a wifi 
> network for your devices. With some companies you have to call them to enable 
> personal hotspot and some have extra charges.
> 
> Hope this helps a bit.
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have an older gentleman friend, who has an iPhone 5S, I believe. 
>> Technology tends to make him a bit nervous. But he tries hard to 
>> understand things.
>> 
>> 
>> He wants to get a wireless hot-spot for his home, because he doesn't 
>> have internet from 1 of the companies that are offered out here.
>> 
>> 
>> I want to help him out, and I can usually answer a lot of his questions. 
>> But this is 1 I don't really understand myself.
>> 
>> 
>> How does a hot-spot work?
>> 
>> Don't you already have to have internet, in order to be able to use a 
>> wireless hot-spot?
>> 
>> I know that on our phones, there is an option to turn wireless 
>> hot-spot on. But I thought that you could use your phone like this, 
>> if you were in public, and you wanted to connect to the WIFI that was 
>> there, wherever you were.
>> 
>> Is this not the case?
>> 
>> 
>> He told me he bought a hot-spot from Walmart a few days ago, but that 
>> he was going to return it. When I asked him why, he said that it 
>> didn't offer good enough range. I don't know enough, or much at all 
>> honestly, on this subject, in order to help him.
>> 
>> His phone is the only thing he has at the moment, for internet. His 
>> data is limited, and this he can't change. But that's a whole other story.
>> 
>> 
>> Any help with this, will really be much appreciated! I want to be 
>> able to help my friend out, as much as I can.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
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Re: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

[Chris Chaffin]

As mentioned previously, a personal hotspot is when you use your phone like a 
router to connect other devices to the Internet.  Some cell providers charge 
for this service, so check with your cell provider prior to using this feature. 
 And this might also use data from your data plan, so again, it is best to 
check with your cell provider prior to using it.
 
For more information, please refer to the 2 links below, which is for 2 
articles about Personal Hotspots.
 
Hotspot article from Apple Support:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204023
 
Hotspot article from Lifewire:
https://www.lifewire.com/set-up-personal-hotspot-on-iphone-2000120
 
HTH,
 
Chris


> On Mar 21, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Beverly Hunter  wrote:
> 
> I would be interested in hearing about this as well. I to only have Internet 
> through my hotspot. I wish I could find a company that I could use also.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Personal hotspot allows you to share the internet of the phone to other 
>> devices. Your phone becomes like a wifi provider. 
>> There are also devices that connect to cellular networks and create a wifi 
>> network for your devices. With some companies you have to call them to 
>> enable personal hotspot and some have extra charges.
>> 
>> Hope this helps a bit.
>> 
>> Ioana 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have an older gentleman friend, who has an iPhone 5S, I believe. 
>>> Technology tends to make him a bit nervous. But he tries hard to 
>>> understand things.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He wants to get a wireless hot-spot for his home, because he doesn't 
>>> have internet from 1 of the companies that are offered out here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I want to help him out, and I can usually answer a lot of his questions. 
>>> But this is 1 I don't really understand myself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How does a hot-spot work?
>>> 
>>> Don't you already have to have internet, in order to be able to use a 
>>> wireless hot-spot?
>>> 
>>> I know that on our phones, there is an option to turn wireless hot-spot 
>>> on. But I thought that you could use your phone like this, if you were 
>>> in public, and you wanted to connect to the WIFI that was there, 
>>> wherever you were.
>>> 
>>> Is this not the case?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He told me he bought a hot-spot from Walmart a few days ago, but that he 
>>> was going to return it. When I asked him why, he said that it didn't 
>>> offer good enough range. I don't know enough, or much at all honestly, 
>>> on this subject, in order to help him.
>>> 
>>> His phone is the only thing he has at the moment, for internet. His data 
>>> is limited, and this he can't change. But that's a whole other story.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any help with this, will really be much appreciated! I want to be able 
>>> to help my friend out, as much as I can.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
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Re: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

[Beverly Hunter]

I would be interested in hearing about this as well. I to only have Internet 
through my hotspot. I wish I could find a company that I could use also.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Personal hotspot allows you to share the internet of the phone to other 
> devices. Your phone becomes like a wifi provider. 
> There are also devices that connect to cellular networks and create a wifi 
> network for your devices. With some companies you have to call them to enable 
> personal hotspot and some have extra charges.
> 
> Hope this helps a bit.
> 
> Ioana 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I have an older gentleman friend, who has an iPhone 5S, I believe. 
>> Technology tends to make him a bit nervous. But he tries hard to 
>> understand things.
>> 
>> 
>> He wants to get a wireless hot-spot for his home, because he doesn't 
>> have internet from 1 of the companies that are offered out here.
>> 
>> 
>> I want to help him out, and I can usually answer a lot of his questions. 
>> But this is 1 I don't really understand myself.
>> 
>> 
>> How does a hot-spot work?
>> 
>> Don't you already have to have internet, in order to be able to use a 
>> wireless hot-spot?
>> 
>> I know that on our phones, there is an option to turn wireless hot-spot 
>> on. But I thought that you could use your phone like this, if you were 
>> in public, and you wanted to connect to the WIFI that was there, 
>> wherever you were.
>> 
>> Is this not the case?
>> 
>> 
>> He told me he bought a hot-spot from Walmart a few days ago, but that he 
>> was going to return it. When I asked him why, he said that it didn't 
>> offer good enough range. I don't know enough, or much at all honestly, 
>> on this subject, in order to help him.
>> 
>> His phone is the only thing he has at the moment, for internet. His data 
>> is limited, and this he can't change. But that's a whole other story.
>> 
>> 
>> Any help with this, will really be much appreciated! I want to be able 
>> to help my friend out, as much as I can.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
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Re: Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi,

Personal hotspot allows you to share the internet of the phone to other 
devices. Your phone becomes like a wifi provider. 
There are also devices that connect to cellular networks and create a wifi 
network for your devices. With some companies you have to call them to enable 
personal hotspot and some have extra charges.

Hope this helps a bit.

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have an older gentleman friend, who has an iPhone 5S, I believe. 
> Technology tends to make him a bit nervous. But he tries hard to 
> understand things.
> 
> 
> He wants to get a wireless hot-spot for his home, because he doesn't 
> have internet from 1 of the companies that are offered out here.
> 
> 
> I want to help him out, and I can usually answer a lot of his questions. 
> But this is 1 I don't really understand myself.
> 
> 
> How does a hot-spot work?
> 
> Don't you already have to have internet, in order to be able to use a 
> wireless hot-spot?
> 
> I know that on our phones, there is an option to turn wireless hot-spot 
> on. But I thought that you could use your phone like this, if you were 
> in public, and you wanted to connect to the WIFI that was there, 
> wherever you were.
> 
> Is this not the case?
> 
> 
> He told me he bought a hot-spot from Walmart a few days ago, but that he 
> was going to return it. When I asked him why, he said that it didn't 
> offer good enough range. I don't know enough, or much at all honestly, 
> on this subject, in order to help him.
> 
> His phone is the only thing he has at the moment, for internet. His data 
> is limited, and this he can't change. But that's a whole other story.
> 
> 
> Any help with this, will really be much appreciated! I want to be able 
> to help my friend out, as much as I can.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
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Wanting to understand wireless hot-spots better

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have an older gentleman friend, who has an iPhone 5S, I believe. 
Technology tends to make him a bit nervous. But he tries hard to 
understand things.


He wants to get a wireless hot-spot for his home, because he doesn't 
have internet from 1 of the companies that are offered out here.


I want to help him out, and I can usually answer a lot of his questions. 
But this is 1 I don't really understand myself.


How does a hot-spot work?

Don't you already have to have internet, in order to be able to use a 
wireless hot-spot?

I know that on our phones, there is an option to turn wireless hot-spot 
on. But I thought that you could use your phone like this, if you were 
in public, and you wanted to connect to the WIFI that was there, 
wherever you were.

Is this not the case?


He told me he bought a hot-spot from Walmart a few days ago, but that he 
was going to return it. When I asked him why, he said that it didn't 
offer good enough range. I don't know enough, or much at all honestly, 
on this subject, in order to help him.

His phone is the only thing he has at the moment, for internet. His data 
is limited, and this he can't change. But that's a whole other story.


Any help with this, will really be much appreciated! I want to be able 
to help my friend out, as much as I can.


Thank you,


Terri

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