Re: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help

2018-04-08 Thread Richard Turner
Karen,
Dave is right. You need iOS 11 for the product channel to work on a 5s. You are 
also missing the new Currency channel because you are on iOS 10.
So, once you replace that app, you will get both of those channels.
HTH,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 8, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Dave 
<dave.beckett...@gmail.com<mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Karen, I think to receive all the channels, you have to update, to iOS 11, 
or iOS 11.3 as it is now.

Dave.


to

From: Karen Poulakos<mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help

I am using Seeing AI on a 5S.  I thought that at one time I had the Product 
channel, but hadn’t used it.  When I went to use it a couple of days ago, it 
was not there.  What I have is Short Text, Document, Person, Scene Preview, 
Color Preview, Handwriting Preview., and Light.

I have not updated my phone because I have one app that is not being updated, 
and I don’t want to loose the function of that app until I am very satisfied 
with the app I’m replacing it with.  I know that I will soon have to give in 
and make the switch.  But for now I am still using version 10.3.3.

I am really happy with Seeing AI.  It’s not perfect, but is far better than 
anything else I’ve tried.

Is the Product channel only available when using the latest IOS update?  Or am 
I missing something?

Karen P

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 5:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI help

I'm sorry you are having trouble. I use the document channel a lot and have 
about a 95 percent success rate with it reading the entire document. The times 
it doesn't, I've found that either the lighting is bad, or I'm not holding the 
phone correctly, or the printing is not very good.
The key with the document channel is that you have to hold the phone quite 
level, have the camera pointed more or less at the center of the page, and have 
it about 18 inches above the page. Plus, you need a clear contrast between the 
document and the surface the document is sitting on so Seeing AI can find the 
edges of the document.
If the Product channel is working some of the time, try and figure out exactly 
what you did those times because that is when you got the focus on the barcode 
at the right spot. I find unless there are specific reasons to use the barcode 
over just knowing what something is, TapTapSee is another good choice and 
sometimes faster than trying to find the barcode.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted 
it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then  
suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was 
so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste 
more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part 
of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel 
but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the 
beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with 
blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with 
frustration with the lack of sight.

Husna


-Original Message- From: Tom Rash
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI help

If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise 
your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a 
live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone 
away, and it will continue reading what it saw.
To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to 
see the bar code.  Try those two out for now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Seeing AI help

Hello everyone,


Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI?


I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no l

Re: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help

2018-04-08 Thread Dave
Hi Karen, I think to receive all the channels, you have to update, to iOS 11, 
or iOS 11.3 as it is now.

Dave.


to 

From: Karen Poulakos 
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help

I am using Seeing AI on a 5S.  I thought that at one time I had the Product 
channel, but hadn’t used it.  When I went to use it a couple of days ago, it 
was not there.  What I have is Short Text, Document, Person, Scene Preview, 
Color Preview, Handwriting Preview., and Light.

 

I have not updated my phone because I have one app that is not being updated, 
and I don’t want to loose the function of that app until I am very satisfied 
with the app I’m replacing it with.  I know that I will soon have to give in 
and make the switch.  But for now I am still using version 10.3.3.

 

I am really happy with Seeing AI.  It’s not perfect, but is far better than 
anything else I’ve tried.

 

Is the Product channel only available when using the latest IOS update?  Or am 
I missing something?

 

Karen P

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 5:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI help

 

I'm sorry you are having trouble. I use the document channel a lot and have 
about a 95 percent success rate with it reading the entire document. The times 
it doesn't, I've found that either the lighting is bad, or I'm not holding the 
phone correctly, or the printing is not very good. 

The key with the document channel is that you have to hold the phone quite 
level, have the camera pointed more or less at the center of the page, and have 
it about 18 inches above the page. Plus, you need a clear contrast between the 
document and the surface the document is sitting on so Seeing AI can find the 
edges of the document.

If the Product channel is working some of the time, try and figure out exactly 
what you did those times because that is when you got the focus on the barcode 
at the right spot. I find unless there are specific reasons to use the barcode 
over just knowing what something is, TapTapSee is another good choice and 
sometimes faster than trying to find the barcode.

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

  quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i 
wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then  
suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was 
so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste 
more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part 
of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel 
but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the 
beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with 
blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with 
frustration with the lack of sight.

  Husna


  -Original Message- From: Tom Rash
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI help

  If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise 
your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a 
live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone 
away, and it will continue reading what it saw.
  To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to 
see the bar code.  Try those two out for now.

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
  Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Seeing AI help

  Hello everyone,


  Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI?


  I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! 
I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though.


  I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched
  channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened.


  I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back
  and forth.

  Is this how I should do it?


  Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.


  Thank you,


  Terri

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A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help

2018-04-08 Thread Karen Poulakos
I am using Seeing AI on a 5S.  I thought that at one time I had the Product 
channel, but hadn’t used it.  When I went to use it a couple of days ago, it 
was not there.  What I have is Short Text, Document, Person, Scene Preview, 
Color Preview, Handwriting Preview., and Light.

 

I have not updated my phone because I have one app that is not being updated, 
and I don’t want to loose the function of that app until I am very satisfied 
with the app I’m replacing it with.  I know that I will soon have to give in 
and make the switch.  But for now I am still using version 10.3.3.

 

I am really happy with Seeing AI.  It’s not perfect, but is far better than 
anything else I’ve tried.

 

Is the Product channel only available when using the latest IOS update?  Or am 
I missing something?

 

Karen P

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 5:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI help

 

I'm sorry you are having trouble. I use the document channel a lot and have 
about a 95 percent success rate with it reading the entire document. The times 
it doesn't, I've found that either the lighting is bad, or I'm not holding the 
phone correctly, or the printing is not very good. 

The key with the document channel is that you have to hold the phone quite 
level, have the camera pointed more or less at the center of the page, and have 
it about 18 inches above the page. Plus, you need a clear contrast between the 
document and the surface the document is sitting on so Seeing AI can find the 
edges of the document.

If the Product channel is working some of the time, try and figure out exactly 
what you did those times because that is when you got the focus on the barcode 
at the right spot. I find unless there are specific reasons to use the barcode 
over just knowing what something is, TapTapSee is another good choice and 
sometimes faster than trying to find the barcode.

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted 
it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then  
suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was 
so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste 
more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part 
of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel 
but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the 
beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with 
blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with 
frustration with the lack of sight.

Husna


-Original Message- From: Tom Rash
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI help

If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise 
your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a 
live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone 
away, and it will continue reading what it saw.
To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to 
see the bar code.  Try those two out for now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI help

Hello everyone,


Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI?


I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I 
think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though.


I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched
channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened.


I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back
and forth.

Is this how I should do it?


Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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