RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-27 Thread CJ & AA MAY
I think I will hold off upgrading to IOS 14 for a little while longer. It does 
seem to have a few issues.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 27 September 2020 06:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

 

That is also fixed for me even in 14.0 and in 14.0.1 it still works 100% as it 
should, I delete a message and the next message gets focus and Voiceover speaks 
and it does so absolutely fast without even the slightest pause.

The focus issues however are not at all fixed fo rme in 14.0.1 on my iPhone 8, 
just as bad as ever.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

 

That is not happening for me.

I am running the beta of 14.2 however.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Johnna Simmons mailto:johnnas...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Does anyone know if iOS is ever going to fix the fact that when you read an 
email message in your inbox and deleted it jumps back to the very beginning of 
your inbox. You cannot scroll through messages in the middle. So I guess, if 
you want to delete anything within your inbox it has to be at the beginning.

Johnna Simmons



On Sep 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

 

For my part, I'm not as pessimistic, and I won't be jumping to conclusions but 
rather, I'll be installing this update and taking a look for myself.

 

I'm glad you've never run into a "bug" on Android. I'm not saying it's any 
worse then the iPhone, but I've definitely seen my share of Android, Talk Back, 
and Voice Assistant bugs.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

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Of Robin

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

 

Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
Apple's

VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining either, so You'll

have to Wait until YourTurn comes up

 

Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs"

AssociatedWith  Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones

 

I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which

is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7

 

At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:

this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO

issues we're having.

 

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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That is also fixed for me even in 14.0 and in 14.0.1 it still works 100% as it 
should, I delete a message and the next message gets focus and Voiceover speaks 
and it does so absolutely fast without even the slightest pause.
The focus issues however are not at all fixed fo rme in 14.0.1 on my iPhone 8, 
just as bad as ever.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

That is not happening for me.
I am running the beta of 14.2 however.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
Does anyone know if iOS is ever going to fix the fact that when you read an 
email message in your inbox and deleted it jumps back to the very beginning of 
your inbox. You cannot scroll through messages in the middle. So I guess, if 
you want to delete anything within your inbox it has to be at the beginning.

Johnna Simmons


On Sep 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

For my part, I'm not as pessimistic, and I won't be jumping to conclusions but 
rather, I'll be installing this update and taking a look for myself.

I'm glad you've never run into a "bug" on Android. I'm not saying it's any 
worse then the iPhone, but I've definitely seen my share of Android, Talk Back, 
and Voice Assistant bugs.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
Apple's
VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining either, so You'll
have to Wait until YourTurn comes up

Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs"
AssociatedWith  Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones

I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which
is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7

At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO
issues we're having.

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Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
That is not happening for me.
I am running the beta of 14.2 however.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:

Does anyone know if iOS is ever going to fix the fact that when you read an 
email message in your inbox and deleted it jumps back to the very beginning of 
your inbox. You cannot scroll through messages in the middle. So I guess, if 
you want to delete anything within your inbox it has to be at the beginning.

Johnna Simmons

On Sep 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

For my part, I'm not as pessimistic, and I won't be jumping to conclusions but 
rather, I'll be installing this update and taking a look for myself.

I'm glad you've never run into a "bug" on Android. I'm not saying it's any 
worse then the iPhone, but I've definitely seen my share of Android, Talk Back, 
and Voice Assistant bugs.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Robin
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
Apple's
VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining either, so You'll
have to Wait until YourTurn comes up

Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs"
AssociatedWith  Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones

I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which
is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7

At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO
issues we're having.

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Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-26 Thread Johnna Simmons
Does anyone know if iOS is ever going to fix the fact that when you read an 
email message in your inbox and deleted it jumps back to the very beginning of 
your inbox. You cannot scroll through messages in the middle. So I guess, if 
you want to delete anything within your inbox it has to be at the beginning.

Johnna Simmons

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> For my part, I'm not as pessimistic, and I won't be jumping to conclusions 
> but rather, I'll be installing this update and taking a look for myself.
> 
> I'm glad you've never run into a "bug" on Android. I'm not saying it's any 
> worse then the iPhone, but I've definitely seen my share of Android, Talk 
> Back, and Voice Assistant bugs.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Robin
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out
>> 
>> Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
>> Apple's
>> VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining either, so 
>> You'll
>> have to Wait until YourTurn comes up
>> 
>> Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs"
>> AssociatedWith  Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones
>> 
>> I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which
>> is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7
>> 
>> At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
>>> this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO
>>> issues we're having.
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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-26 Thread davycuppens
The focus bug is even not yet resolved in betas of ios14.2 and that won't come 
out since October 15 when the release of new iphones is believed to be 
announced.
So wait, wait, wait!

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Carolyn
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 21:08
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

I'll wait for 14.02, then. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

Well, the fVoiceOver ocus bug is still present.
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
> Apple's  VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining 
> either, so You'll have to Wait until YourTurn comes up
> 
> Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs" AssociatedWith  
> Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones
> 
> I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which 
> is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7
> 
> At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
>> this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues 
>> we're having.
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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Actually, it is fixed in 14.0.1 but broken in the beta.  
I just tested this on my SE first generation running the release version of 
14.0.1.



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So far this has not been fixed even in the latest Beta of 14.2 so let's hope 
they'll still find a fix for this before 14.2 comes out for the public which 
won't be until mid or late October or possible early November. If they don't 
get it in 14.2 and if it's not part of a third level dot fix,e.g. 14.2.1 or 
14.2.2 etc. then we might wait until 2021 for this. But I'm not usually 
pessimistic so let's hope it will get fixed well before then.

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Not that I noticed, only main item in this is that now when you restart your 
phone it doesn't loose any custom email client or web browser you set as the 
default which happened with 14.0


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this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues we're 
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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
So far this has not been fixed even in the latest Beta of 14.2 so let's hope 
they'll still find a fix for this before 14.2 comes out for the public which 
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14.2.2 etc. then we might wait until 2021 for this. But I'm not usually 
pessimistic so let's hope it will get fixed well before then.

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Not that I noticed, only main item in this is that now when you restart your 
phone it doesn't loose any custom email client or web browser you set as the 
default which happened with 14.0


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this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues we're 
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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not that I noticed, only main item in this is that now when you restart your 
phone it doesn't loose any custom email client or web browser you set as the 
default which happened with 14.0


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this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues we're 
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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-24 Thread Carolyn
I'll wait for 14.02, then. 

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Richard Turner
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Well, the fVoiceOver ocus bug is still present.
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
> Apple's  VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining 
> either, so You'll have to Wait until YourTurn comes up
> 
> Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs" AssociatedWith  
> Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones
> 
> I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which 
> is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7
> 
> At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
>> this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues 
>> we're having.
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Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Well, the fVoiceOver ocus bug is still present.
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
> Apple's  VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining 
> either, so You'll have to Wait until YourTurn comes up
> 
> Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs" AssociatedWith  
> Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones
> 
> I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which 
> is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7
> 
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>> we're having.
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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-24 Thread chaltain
For my part, I'm not as pessimistic, and I won't be jumping to conclusions but 
rather, I'll be installing this update and taking a look for myself.

I'm glad you've never run into a "bug" on Android. I'm not saying it's any 
worse then the iPhone, but I've definitely seen my share of Android, Talk Back, 
and Voice Assistant bugs.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Robin
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out
> 
> Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind users of 
> Apple's
> VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not at  The Begining either, so 
> You'll
> have to Wait until YourTurn comes up
> 
> Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs"
> AssociatedWith  Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones
> 
> I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, which
> is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7
> 
> At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
> >this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO
> >issues we're having.
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Re: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-24 Thread Robin
Not Likely, as Apple doesn't Prioritize  Bug Fixes for TotallyBlind 
users of Apple's  VoiceOver ...Remember, You're IN Line, & Not 
at  The Begining either, so You'll have to Wait until YourTurn comes up


Personally, I  have Never encountered any "Bugs" 
AssociatedWith  Google'sAndroid on  My SamsungGalaxy MobilePhones


I've  Turned OFF  AutomaticUpdates on Both of  My iOSDevices: XS MAX, 
which is on iOS12.4.1  & 11PRO, which is on iOS13.7


At 11:04 AM 9/24/2020, you wrote:
this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO 
issues we're having.


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RE: IOS 14.0.1 is out

2020-09-24 Thread davycuppens
That is less probably because all beta testers report in ios14.2 b1 no bug 
solutions for voiceover.

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Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 20:05
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Onderwerp: IOS 14.0.1 is out

this update says bug fixes. Hopefully they included some of the VO issues we're 
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