RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Arlene,

Not sure what is the issue for you, but for me this is how it works (I assume 
you know how to pull up the Control Centre and find the Screen Recording icon), 
here is what I do once I am on it:

1. I swipe down and Voiceover says Open Controls
2. I double tap and Voiceover says Screen Recording, Heading, Actions available
3. I flick right and Voiceover says Start Recording button, I flick right once 
more and Voiceover says Microphone Off, Switch Button Off
4. I double tap and Voiceover says On
5. I swipe left once and Voiceover says Start Recording Button, I double tap 
and Voiceover will make a couple of beeps as it does a sort of 3, 2, 1 
count-down before recording starts.
Now as soon as recording starts you will suddenly hardly hear Voiceover any 
more since it speaks out of the earpiece speaker so you may have to hold your 
phone up closer to your ear depending on how good your hearing is.
You can now press the home button a couple of times to get out of screen 
recorder and Control Panel, but the recording will continue and all gestures 
and screens where you go will be recorded.
In order to stop screen recorder you have to again go into Control Centre > 
Screen Recording and double tap the Stop Recording button.
Once you do this the video will be saved to your camera roll.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard , again, we've got to thank you, for you needing others to test the 
recording on their phones, for one thing we weren't aware of the screen 
recording feature in the phone, that you clarified in the message below isn't 
an app, so thanks for informing us of it. the screen recorder, sounds quite 
useful, and we really want to learn it, though we need a bit more help with it. 
We couldn't find any of the controls, even the microphone. Somehow I'm missing 
something not finding these controls. You're instructions are clear, but as I 
said we're not finding the controls,  and as I said this is something we really 
want to learn to use. By the way we changed the rotor settings, we tried all of 
them, thinking that it might have helped, but didn't do anything. There's so 
many useful things to do with it including making tutorials. We're greatful for 
your assistance in using the screen recorder, even though at this point it has 
a bug in it.We meant to be helpful along with us as far as the testing, which 
is not necessary any longer since there's been enough list members that have 
tested the screen record along with your experience. So, if there's something 
that we're missing, please let us know, and thanks again for always sharing 
your own experiences, how to instructions and knowledge.

Arlene and Wayne

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello Arlene,

Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not an 
app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually wor

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, I meant to tell you in the last message, we never accomplished making 
any recordings since we didn't find any in the photo area, but we're going to 
try your additional directions from the last of your messages I replied too. 
Even though it's not working up to par and hopefully this bug will be fixed, as 
I said we want very much to get this down pat in knowing how to do it. Thanks 
again.

Arlene and Wayne
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 10:13 AM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Also, at this point I don't think it is necessary to send another screen 
recording video since enough people with different devices have now confirmed 
this and this is a bug which is universal so hopefully all those who have 
checked it out have emailed accessibil...@apple.com requesting that this will 
be fixed since when the feature was first introduced you could make a screen 
recording which included Voiceover as well as any comments you spoke just fine. 
It was a wonderful method to send a demo to a developer if there were issues 
with the app showing them exactly what the problem was whether it was an 
unlabelled button, something one could not get to with Voiceover etc. 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, as it turns out I don't think we got into the screen recording last 
night as I was thinking, but  we would like to test it and learn about it since 
we weren't aware of it. Anyway we find screen recording in the control center, 
but how do you begin the recording? After you let me know how to start the 
recording, then we could send the recording to you. We know how to activate it, 
remove it and move it around, but Wayne can't find the controls for it, so if 
you could tell us  how to find the controls and how to use it, to start the 
recording and stop the recording, that would be very ehlpful, we really want to 
learn this. If it's on the ipad too, we'll try it on there as well.  We're 
coming along with the phone, but  we're still learning as it's just been from 
earlier this year that we got these se phones, so your knowledge, and others on 
here is so helpful. there's always something else to learn. Thank you.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:19 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Arlene,

 

If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you 
please send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear 
how it sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.

All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to Viphone@GoogleGroups.com 
if you want to post it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address 
is siegh...@live.ca

I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who 
can make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about. 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM

  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Hello Arlene,

   

  Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is 
not an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps 
work fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where 
Voiceover can be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on 
how to enable

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, thank you for these additional instructions which we'll try.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 10:10 AM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Use the rotor, flick to open controls and double tap

  Also, just double tapping on it will start a screen recording and double 
tapping again will end it, but by default the microphone is not on so while 
this will create a video showing your screen and what you do it will be a 
silent video.

  If you double tapped on it before chance are you made some screen recordings 
already, just check your Photos app and delete them if you accidently created 
some.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, as it turns out I don't think we got into the screen recording last 
night as I was thinking, but  we would like to test it and learn about it since 
we weren't aware of it. Anyway we find screen recording in the control center, 
but how do you begin the recording? After you let me know how to start the 
recording, then we could send the recording to you. We know how to activate it, 
remove it and move it around, but Wayne can't find the controls for it, so if 
you could tell us  how to find the controls and how to use it, to start the 
recording and stop the recording, that would be very ehlpful, we really want to 
learn this. If it's on the ipad too, we'll try it on there as well.  We're 
coming along with the phone, but  we're still learning as it's just been from 
earlier this year that we got these se phones, so your knowledge, and others on 
here is so helpful. there's always something else to learn. Thank you.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:19 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Arlene,

 

If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you 
please send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear 
how it sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.

All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to Viphone@GoogleGroups.com 
if you want to post it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address 
is siegh...@live.ca

I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who 
can make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

 

Thanks,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about. 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM

  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Hello Arlene,

   

  Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is 
not an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps 
work fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where 
Voiceover can be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on 
how to enable the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you 
do it by flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double 
tap, then locate the Microphone toggle.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this 
is what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into cont

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard , again, we've got to thank you, for you needing others to test the 
recording on their phones, for one thing we weren't aware of the screen 
recording feature in the phone, that you clarified in the message below isn't 
an app, so thanks for informing us of it. the screen recorder, sounds quite 
useful, and we really want to learn it, though we need a bit more help with it. 
We couldn't find any of the controls, even the microphone. Somehow I'm missing 
something not finding these controls. You're instructions are clear, but as I 
said we're not finding the controls,  and as I said this is something we really 
want to learn to use. By the way we changed the rotor settings, we tried all of 
them, thinking that it might have helped, but didn't do anything. There's so 
many useful things to do with it including making tutorials. We're greatful for 
your assistance in using the screen recorder, even though at this point it has 
a bug in it.We meant to be helpful along with us as far as the testing, which 
is not necessary any longer since there's been enough list members that have 
tested the screen record along with your experience. So, if there's something 
that we're missing, please let us know, and thanks again for always sharing 
your own experiences, how to instructions and knowledge.

Arlene and Wayne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Hello Arlene,

   

  Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not 
an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is 
what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.

  Arlene and Wayne

  www.alldigitalaudio.com

   

  arlenes71...@earthlink.net

  greenwoo...@cox.net

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM

Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Hello,

 

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

 

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could 
test this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Also, at this point I don't think it is necessary to send another screen 
recording video since enough people with different devices have now confirmed 
this and this is a bug which is universal so hopefully all those who have 
checked it out have emailed 
accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> requesting that this 
will be fixed since when the feature was first introduced you could make a 
screen recording which included Voiceover as well as any comments you spoke 
just fine. It was a wonderful method to send a demo to a developer if there 
were issues with the app showing them exactly what the problem was whether it 
was an unlabelled button, something one could not get to with Voiceover etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, as it turns out I don't think we got into the screen recording last 
night as I was thinking, but  we would like to test it and learn about it since 
we weren't aware of it. Anyway we find screen recording in the control center, 
but how do you begin the recording? After you let me know how to start the 
recording, then we could send the recording to you. We know how to activate it, 
remove it and move it around, but Wayne can't find the controls for it, so if 
you could tell us  how to find the controls and how to use it, to start the 
recording and stop the recording, that would be very ehlpful, we really want to 
learn this. If it's on the ipad too, we'll try it on there as well.  We're 
coming along with the phone, but  we're still learning as it's just been from 
earlier this year that we got these se phones, so your knowledge, and others on 
here is so helpful. there's always something else to learn. Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Arlene,

If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you please 
send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear how it 
sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.
All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to 
Viphone@GoogleGroups.com<mailto:Viphone@GoogleGroups.com> if you want to post 
it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address is 
siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who can 
make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

Thanks,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello Arlene,

Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not an 
app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Use the rotor, flick to open controls and double tap
Also, just double tapping on it will start a screen recording and double 
tapping again will end it, but by default the microphone is not on so while 
this will create a video showing your screen and what you do it will be a 
silent video.
If you double tapped on it before chance are you made some screen recordings 
already, just check your Photos app and delete them if you accidently created 
some.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, as it turns out I don't think we got into the screen recording last 
night as I was thinking, but  we would like to test it and learn about it since 
we weren't aware of it. Anyway we find screen recording in the control center, 
but how do you begin the recording? After you let me know how to start the 
recording, then we could send the recording to you. We know how to activate it, 
remove it and move it around, but Wayne can't find the controls for it, so if 
you could tell us  how to find the controls and how to use it, to start the 
recording and stop the recording, that would be very ehlpful, we really want to 
learn this. If it's on the ipad too, we'll try it on there as well.  We're 
coming along with the phone, but  we're still learning as it's just been from 
earlier this year that we got these se phones, so your knowledge, and others on 
here is so helpful. there's always something else to learn. Thank you.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Arlene,

If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you please 
send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear how it 
sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.
All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to 
Viphone@GoogleGroups.com<mailto:Viphone@GoogleGroups.com> if you want to post 
it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address is 
siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who can 
make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

Thanks,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello Arlene,

Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not an 
app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and w

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, as it turns out I don't think we got into the screen recording last 
night as I was thinking, but  we would like to test it and learn about it since 
we weren't aware of it. Anyway we find screen recording in the control center, 
but how do you begin the recording? After you let me know how to start the 
recording, then we could send the recording to you. We know how to activate it, 
remove it and move it around, but Wayne can't find the controls for it, so if 
you could tell us  how to find the controls and how to use it, to start the 
recording and stop the recording, that would be very ehlpful, we really want to 
learn this. If it's on the ipad too, we'll try it on there as well.  We're 
coming along with the phone, but  we're still learning as it's just been from 
earlier this year that we got these se phones, so your knowledge, and others on 
here is so helpful. there's always something else to learn. Thank you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:19 PM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Arlene,

   

  If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you 
please send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear 
how it sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.

  All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to Viphone@GoogleGroups.com 
if you want to post it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address 
is siegh...@live.ca

  I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who can 
make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

   

  Thanks,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about. 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Hello Arlene,

 

Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is 
not an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps 
work fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where 
Voiceover can be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on 
how to enable the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you 
do it by flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double 
tap, then locate the Microphone toggle.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is 
what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Maria Reyes]

HI, 
I can definitely confirm this problem. When I hit start recording, VoiceOver 
will go to the earpiece. I can still hear it but it's not very loud. At least 
while I was recording. I will send the attachment in a separate message. 

> On Nov 4, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Arlene,
>  
> If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you 
> please send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear 
> how it sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
> discussion with Apple Accessibility.
> All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
> then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to 
> Viphone@GoogleGroups.com if you want to post it to the list or send it to me 
> directly, the email address is siegh...@live.ca
> I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who can 
> make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.
>  
> Thanks,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
> Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover
>  
> Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
> both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over 
> can be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice 
> memo, but we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test 
> screen recording even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I 
> think we did find it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case 
> I'm missing something. I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation 
> with screen recorder for you and others. I possibly might have questions a 
> bit later and if I do I'll write back and ask whatever questions I have about 
> the screen recording. Thanks again for the mentioning  of your situation 
> about recording, since it can be so useful in differing situations, that we 
> weren't thinking about. 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
> Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover
>  
> Hello Arlene,
>  
> Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not 
> an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps 
> work fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where 
> Voiceover can be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on 
> how to enable the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, 
> you do it by flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and 
> double tap, then locate the Microphone toggle.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
> Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover
>  
> Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is 
> what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
> located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll 
> definitely spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable 
> the microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the 
> same thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this 
> is what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo 
> recorder it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice 
> over's voice very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 
> 12.1, nad on the other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 
> se phones except for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking 
> your question, getting us interested in this because recording some things 
> may be useful from time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but 
> this would be one way to get one done. On the phone with the current software 
> we downloaded a recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so 
> far, but it works just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work 
> the same way including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  
> how you want it to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on 
> applevis and that's where we found it. However, down the way and when time 
> permits we may end up doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about 
> recording.
> Arlene and Wayne
> www.alldigitalaudio.com
>  
> arlenes71...@earthlink.net
> greenwoo...@cox.net
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
>

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Arlene,

If you made a screen recording it would be in your Photos app, could you please 
send it to the list or myself directly as an attachment so I can hear how it 
sounds differently or, as you say, normally, this would help me in my 
discussion with Apple Accessibility.
All you have to do is locate the video in the Photos app, double tap on it, 
then find the Share button, select Mail and send it to 
Viphone@GoogleGroups.com<mailto:Viphone@GoogleGroups.com> if you want to post 
it to the list or send it to me directly, the email address is 
siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
I would really be very interested since you would be the first person who can 
make a screen recording where Voiceover is heard loud and clear.

Thanks,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello Arlene,

Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not an 
app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.
Arlene and Wayne
www.alldigitalaudio.com<http://www.alldigitalaudio.com>

arlenes71...@earthlink.net<mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>
greenwoo...@cox.net<mailto:greenwoo...@cox.net>


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM
Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello,

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no w

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, thank you for this additional  information about screen recording and 
about the location in control center, and the fact that it's not an app.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:54 PM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Hi Fazil,

   

  Screen Recorder is in Control Centre, touch the time or other item in the 
status bar at the top of the phone and swipe up with 3 fingers, it is one of 
the items in the bottom 3 rows of apps in Control Centre.

  You can customize what is displayed in Control Centre in Settings > Control 
Centre, but Screen Recording is not an app, i.e. it is not available somewhere 
on a home screen, it is only available from Control Centre.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:42 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  What is the gesture to bring the phone in to screen recording mode?

  Thanks!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 6:19 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Not Sieghard, but with Screen Recording you get a video of what is happening 
on the screen along with your narration.  Rather than double tapping on Screen 
Recording, touch it once to get it focused and flick down to open controls and 
double tap.

  Then, the microphone button is one flick right I believe, which you want to 
turn on before going back to the start recording.

  Also, you want your screen curtain off and brightness at a level a sighted 
person can see.

   

  Voice Memos only records your voice, and probably VoiceOver, but that doesn’t 
help if you want someone to see what is happening on the screen.

   

  HTH,

  Richard

   

  “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is 
what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.

  Arlene and Wayne

  www.alldigitalaudio.com

   

  arlenes71...@earthlink.net

  greenwoo...@cox.net

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM

Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Hello,

 

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

 

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could 
test this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if peo

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, we followed your instructions, and I think we tested recording in 
both screen recorder and voice memo and with both our voices and voice over can 
be heard very clearly. I know the concern  you have isn't about voice memo, but 
we did want to try both. As I said I'm quite sure we did test screen recording 
even though at first we weren't sure what you meant, but I think we did find 
it. I'll have to go over with Wayne what we did, in case I'm missing something. 
I hope someone has the answer to remedy this situation with screen recorder for 
you and others. I possibly might have questions a bit later and if I do I'll 
write back and ask whatever questions I have about the screen recording. Thanks 
again for the mentioning of your situation about recording, since it can be so 
useful in differing situations, that we weren't thinking about. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:45 PM
  Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Hello Arlene,

   

  Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not 
an app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

   

  Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is 
what we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.

  Arlene and Wayne

  www.alldigitalaudio.com

   

  arlenes71...@earthlink.net

  greenwoo...@cox.net

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM

Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Hello,

 

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

 

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could 
test this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people 
with an iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that would be great. 
Please make sure you flick down on the Screen Recording icon in Control Centre 
to Adjust controls and make sure the microphone is turned on before starting. 
Then try it with just the phone and see if Voiceover remains on the external 
speaker or switches to the Earpiece and also try it with a Bluetooth speaker or 
wired external speaker.

 

Below is a message I just wrot

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fazil,

Screen Recorder is in Control Centre, touch the time or other item in the 
status bar at the top of the phone and swipe up with 3 fingers, it is one of 
the items in the bottom 3 rows of apps in Control Centre.
You can customize what is displayed in Control Centre in Settings > Control 
Centre, but Screen Recording is not an app, i.e. it is not available somewhere 
on a home screen, it is only available from Control Centre.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

What is the gesture to bring the phone in to screen recording mode?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

Not Sieghard, but with Screen Recording you get a video of what is happening on 
the screen along with your narration.  Rather than double tapping on Screen 
Recording, touch it once to get it focused and flick down to open controls and 
double tap.
Then, the microphone button is one flick right I believe, which you want to 
turn on before going back to the start recording.
Also, you want your screen curtain off and brightness at a level a sighted 
person can see.

Voice Memos only records your voice, and probably VoiceOver, but that doesn’t 
help if you want someone to see what is happening on the screen.

HTH,
Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.
Arlene and Wayne
www.alldigitalaudio.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alldigitalaudio.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9cbf9ff8cdf3429ec07508d6425f10ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636769373399665276=%2F0OVGJ3g0nRWvlqol3t91iYivp7GKCSSLAARE6uCtoA%3D=0>

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- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM
Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello,

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could test 
this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people with an 
iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that would be great. Please make 
sure you flick down on the Screen

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Arlene,

Voice Memos is a completely different app, in a way, screen recording is not an 
app but a function of iOS. I know Voice memos and other recording apps work 
fine and I see that some people can make a screen recording where Voiceover can 
be heard although not very loud. I did include instructions on how to enable 
the microphone for screen recordings in my original message, you do it by 
flicking up or  down on Screen Recorder to "Open Controls" and double tap, then 
locate the Microphone toggle.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.
Arlene and Wayne
www.alldigitalaudio.com<http://www.alldigitalaudio.com>

arlenes71...@earthlink.net<mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>
greenwoo...@cox.net<mailto:greenwoo...@cox.net>


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM
Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello,

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could test 
this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people with an 
iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that would be great. Please make 
sure you flick down on the Screen Recording icon in Control Centre to Adjust 
controls and make sure the microphone is turned on before starting. Then try it 
with just the phone and see if Voiceover remains on the external speaker or 
switches to the Earpiece and also try it with a Bluetooth speaker or wired 
external speaker.

Below is a message I just wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding this. If your 
findings match mine please also send a message and feel free to use all or part 
of my message. Screen recordings which include Voiceover speech can be really 
useful and they used to work. This way if you encounter an app with unlabeled 
buttons or other elements which are not spoken correctly by Voiceover you can 
easily make a demo and send it to the developer to show them. OK, here now is 
my message:

Hello,

I'd like to point out what I consider a substantial bug with the Screen 
Recording feature. If this is not considered a bug then I think  it's a big 
feature omission which should be addressed especially since it used to be 
different. Here is the problem:

If I, as a Voiceover user, start a screen recording with the microphone enabled 
Voiceover disappears or, to be more exact, it is banished to the earpiece where 
it can be barely heard.
Not only does this make it difficult for a blind user to navigate and perform 
gestures o

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Fazil M.]

What is the gesture to bring the phone in to screen recording mode?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Not Sieghard, but with Screen Recording you get a video of what is happening on 
the screen along with your narration.  Rather than double tapping on Screen 
Recording, touch it once to get it focused and flick down to open controls and 
double tap.

Then, the microphone button is one flick right I believe, which you want to 
turn on before going back to the start recording.

Also, you want your screen curtain off and brightness at a level a sighted 
person can see.

 

Voice Memos only records your voice, and probably VoiceOver, but that doesn’t 
help if you want someone to see what is happening on the screen.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.

Arlene and Wayne

www.alldigitalaudio.com 
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alldigitalaudio.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9cbf9ff8cdf3429ec07508d6425f10ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636769373399665276=%2F0OVGJ3g0nRWvlqol3t91iYivp7GKCSSLAARE6uCtoA%3D=0>
 

 

arlenes71...@earthlink.net

greenwoo...@cox.net

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM

Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

 

Hello,

 

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

 

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could test 
this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people with an 
iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that would be great. Please make 
sure you flick down on the Screen Recording icon in Control Centre to Adjust 
controls and make sure the microphone is turned on before starting. Then try it 
with just the phone and see if Voiceover remains on the external speaker or 
switches to the Earpiece and also try it with a Bluetooth speaker or wired 
external speaker.

 

Below is a message I just wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding this. If your 
findings match mine please also send a message and feel free to use all or part 
of my message. Screen recordings which include Voiceover speech can be really 
useful and they used to work. This way if you encounter an app with unlabeled 
buttons or other elements which are not spok

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,

Try as I may, I cannot get VoiceOver to be heard during a screen recording 
either with or without Apple Ear Pods.  The best I could do is to hear just a 
whisper of VoiceOver during screen recording..  

I tried disabling the noise cancellation option, located in the accessibility 
area but it made no difference.  

I will file a bug report on this.

Mark 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 8:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello,

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could test 
this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people with an 
iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that would be great. Please make 
sure you flick down on the Screen Recording icon in Control Centre to Adjust 
controls and make sure the microphone is turned on before starting. Then try it 
with just the phone and see if Voiceover remains on the external speaker or 
switches to the Earpiece and also try it with a Bluetooth speaker or wired 
external speaker.

Below is a message I just wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding this. If your 
findings match mine please also send a message and feel free to use all or part 
of my message. Screen recordings which include Voiceover speech can be really 
useful and they used to work. This way if you encounter an app with unlabeled 
buttons or other elements which are not spoken correctly by Voiceover you can 
easily make a demo and send it to the developer to show them. OK, here now is 
my message:

Hello,

I'd like to point out what I consider a substantial bug with the Screen 
Recording feature. If this is not considered a bug then I think  it's a big 
feature omission which should be addressed especially since it used to be 
different. Here is the problem:

If I, as a Voiceover user, start a screen recording with the microphone enabled 
Voiceover disappears or, to be more exact, it is banished to the earpiece where 
it can be barely heard.
Not only does this make it difficult for a blind user to navigate and perform 
gestures on the phone, but it also means that only what I say is recorded, 
whatever Voiceover speaks or does not speak is not captured on the screen 
recording video.

As I said, this used to be different. When screen recording was first 
introduced as a feature Voiceover continued to speak on the external speaker 
and what was spoken was captured on the video. This allowed a blind person to 
demonstrate accessibility issues in apps or iOS itself. If, for example, 
certain buttons were only spoken as "button" without a description as to their 
purpose I could have made a screen recording to demonstrate this and then sent 
the recording to the developer asking if the problem could be fixed in a future 
update.
In iOS 11 or at least the last time I used screen recording for this purpose 
which I am pretty sure was in iOS 11, I could still accomplish this by 
connecting to a Bluetooth speaker, the audio would remain on the Bluetooth 
speaker and would be captured on the video. Today I wanted to make a screen 
recording to show somebody how to do something in an app and while Voiceover 
continued to speak via the Bluetooth speaker, after I finished and played back 
the video I heard my own voice as I was explaining the gestures I performed, 
but there was no trace of Voiceover which really baffles me because all along 
Voiceover could be heard loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker.
How is it possible that my voice which is an external sound is recorded, but 
Voiceover coming from the Bluetooth speaker, also an external sound, was not 
picked up by the microphone?
I use an iPhone 6S Plus so after this didn't work with a Bluetooth speaker I 
used a wired speaker and plugged it into the 3.5mm audio jack of my iPhone. 
Once again Voiceover came from the speaker loud and clear. I started the screen 
recording and made sure that microphone was turned on. After I finished I 
played back the video only to find that again I could be heard clearly but 
Voiceover could not be heard at all.

I don't have access to other phones such as an iPhone 7, 8 or higher to see if 
screen 

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Paul Mcgann]

just reminding you. a thought that sometimes devleopers and technicians 
do put complications on siri and voiceover as they don't realize what 
they are doing. we have to let apple know of the mix--up of siri and 
voiceover as sometimes developers set up wrong way.



okay, just trying to be helpful. if you say i am wrong, that is fine.the 
quote is you can see me but i can't see you...i can see you but you 
can't see me.



no matter if you know something and i know something and we are 
different.. i am not here to argue, but to try to be helpful. hope this 
helps.




On 11/3/2018 11:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hello,

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 
there is no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which 
includes what Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 
11, either, but it could be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired 
external speaker. Now Voiceover is switched to the Earpiece of the 
phone where even at full volume it can be barely heard and even though 
with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking loud and clear via the 
Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the microphone. My own 
voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but nothing else.


I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me 
could test this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus 
so if people with an iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that 
would be great. Please make sure you flick down on the Screen 
Recording icon in Control Centre to Adjust controls and make sure the 
microphone is turned on before starting. Then try it with just the 
phone and see if Voiceover remains on the external speaker or switches 
to the Earpiece and also try it with a Bluetooth speaker or wired 
external speaker.


Below is a message I just wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding this. 
If your findings match mine please also send a message and feel free 
to use all or part of my message. Screen recordings which include 
Voiceover speech can be really useful and they used to work. This way 
if you encounter an app with unlabeled buttons or other elements which 
are not spoken correctly by Voiceover you can easily make a demo and 
send it to the developer to show them. OK, here now is my message:


Hello,

I'd like to point out what I consider a substantial bug with the 
Screen Recording feature. If this is not considered a bug then I 
think  it's a big feature omission which should be addressed 
especially since it used to be different. Here is the problem:


If I, as a Voiceover user, start a screen recording with the 
microphone enabled Voiceover disappears or, to be more exact, it is 
banished to the earpiece where it can be barely heard.


Not only does this make it difficult for a blind user to navigate and 
perform gestures on the phone, but it also means that only what I say 
is recorded, whatever Voiceover speaks or does not speak is not 
captured on the screen recording video.


As I said, this used to be different. When screen recording was first 
introduced as a feature Voiceover continued to speak on the external 
speaker and what was spoken was captured on the video. This allowed a 
blind person to demonstrate accessibility issues in apps or iOS 
itself. If, for example, certain buttons were only spoken as "button" 
without a description as to their purpose I could have made a screen 
recording to demonstrate this and then sent the recording to the 
developer asking if the problem could be fixed in a future update.


In iOS 11 or at least the last time I used screen recording for this 
purpose which I am pretty sure was in iOS 11, I could still accomplish 
this by connecting to a Bluetooth speaker, the audio would remain on 
the Bluetooth speaker and would be captured on the video. Today I 
wanted to make a screen recording to show somebody how to do something 
in an app and while Voiceover continued to speak via the Bluetooth 
speaker, after I finished and played back the video I heard my own 
voice as I was explaining the gestures I performed, but there was no 
trace of Voiceover which really baffles me because all along Voiceover 
could be heard loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker.


How is it possible that my voice which is an external sound is 
recorded, but Voiceover coming from the Bluetooth speaker, also an 
external sound, was not picked up by the microphone?


I use an iPhone 6S Plus so after this didn't work with a Bluetooth 
speaker I used a wired speaker and plugged it into the 3.5mm audio 
jack of my iPhone. Once again Voiceover came from the speaker loud and 
clear. I started the screen recording and made sure that microphone 
was turned on. After I finished I played back the video only to find 
that again I could be heard clearly but Voiceover could not be heard 
at all.


I don't have access to other 

RE: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Richard Turner]

Not Sieghard, but with Screen Recording you get a video of what is happening on 
the screen along with your narration.  Rather than double tapping on Screen 
Recording, touch it once to get it focused and flick down to open controls and 
double tap.
Then, the microphone button is one flick right I believe, which you want to 
turn on before going back to the start recording.
Also, you want your screen curtain off and brightness at a level a sighted 
person can see.

Voice Memos only records your voice, and probably VoiceOver, but that doesn’t 
help if you want someone to see what is happening on the screen.

HTH,
Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.
Arlene and Wayne
www.alldigitalaudio.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alldigitalaudio.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9cbf9ff8cdf3429ec07508d6425f10ea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636769373399665276=%2F0OVGJ3g0nRWvlqol3t91iYivp7GKCSSLAARE6uCtoA%3D=0>

arlenes71...@earthlink.net<mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>
greenwoo...@cox.net<mailto:greenwoo...@cox.net>


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM
Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover

Hello,

I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could test 
this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people with an 
iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that would be great. Please make 
sure you flick down on the Screen Recording icon in Control Centre to Adjust 
controls and make sure the microphone is turned on before starting. Then try it 
with just the phone and see if Voiceover remains on the external speaker or 
switches to the Earpiece and also try it with a Bluetooth speaker or wired 
external speaker.

Below is a message I just wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding this. If your 
findings match mine please also send a message and feel free to use all or part 
of my message. Screen recordings which include Voiceover speech can be really 
useful and they used to work. This way if you encounter an app with unlabeled 
buttons or other elements which are not spoken correctly by Voiceover you can 
easily make a demo and send it to the developer to show them. OK, here now is 
my message:

Hello,

I'd like to point out what I consider a substantial bug with the Screen 
Recording feature. If this is not

Re: Screen recording with Voiceover

[Arlene]

Sieghard, we thought we would try testing  with the se phones, and this is what 
we found out. As to your instructions, we went into control center, and  
located screen recorder, we didn't spend much time with it and we'll definitely 
spend more time with it later. We didn't find a setting to enable the 
microphone, however it seemed to be working corectly. If this isn't the same 
thing I'm getting ready to tell you about then I apologize. However this is 
what we have. In the phone, in the extras phone using the voice memo recorder 
it's working as you want it too, recording ourvoices and voice over's voice 
very clearly. this is with using one of the se phones version 12.1, nad on the 
other se phone using the prior software version 11.4. The 2 se phones except 
for the operating system are identical. Thanks for asking your question, 
getting us interested in this because recording some things may be useful from 
time to time.At this time we won't be doing any demos, but this would be one 
way to get one done. On the phone with the current software we downloaded a 
recording app last summer and hadn't done much with it so far, but it works 
just as well as the voice memo does, and does actually work the same way 
including recording our voices and the voice over's voice just  how you want it 
to work. It's called rev. We were going through the apps on applevis and that's 
where we found it. However, down the way and when time permits we may end up 
doing some tutorials professionally. We're all about recording.
Arlene and Wayne
www.alldigitalaudio.com

arlenes71...@earthlink.net
greenwoo...@cox.net


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:19 PM
  Subject: Screen recording with Voiceover


  Hello,

   

  I was trying to do a screen recording today to show somebody how to do 
something with Voiceover. Unfortunately I realized that now in iOS 12 there is 
no way I could think of to make such a screen recording which includes what 
Voiceover is speaking. This used to be not easy in iOS 11, either, but it could 
be accomplished by using a Bluetooth or wired external speaker. Now Voiceover 
is switched to the Earpiece of the phone where even at full volume it can be 
barely heard and even though with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover was speaking 
loud and clear via the Bluetooth speaker, nothing was picked up by the 
microphone. My own voice could be heard as I was explaining my gestures, but 
nothing else.

   

  I would really appreciate it if others who have newer phones than me could 
test this to see if they get the same result. I have a 6S Plus so if people 
with an iPhone 7, 8, XS or XR could do  some testing that would be great. 
Please make sure you flick down on the Screen Recording icon in Control Centre 
to Adjust controls and make sure the microphone is turned on before starting. 
Then try it with just the phone and see if Voiceover remains on the external 
speaker or switches to the Earpiece and also try it with a Bluetooth speaker or 
wired external speaker.

   

  Below is a message I just wrote to Apple Accessibility regarding this. If 
your findings match mine please also send a message and feel free to use all or 
part of my message. Screen recordings which include Voiceover speech can be 
really useful and they used to work. This way if you encounter an app with 
unlabeled buttons or other elements which are not spoken correctly by Voiceover 
you can easily make a demo and send it to the developer to show them. OK, here 
now is my message:

   

  Hello,

   

  I'd like to point out what I consider a substantial bug with the Screen 
Recording feature. If this is not considered a bug then I think  it's a big 
feature omission which should be addressed especially since it used to be 
different. Here is the problem:

   

  If I, as a Voiceover user, start a screen recording with the microphone 
enabled Voiceover disappears or, to be more exact, it is banished to the 
earpiece where it can be barely heard.

  Not only does this make it difficult for a blind user to navigate and perform 
gestures on the phone, but it also means that only what I say is recorded, 
whatever Voiceover speaks or does not speak is not captured on the screen 
recording video.

   

  As I said, this used to be different. When screen recording was first 
introduced as a feature Voiceover continued to speak on the external speaker 
and what was spoken was captured on the video. This allowed a blind person to 
demonstrate accessibility issues in apps or iOS itself. If, for example, 
certain buttons were only spoken as "button" without a description as to their 
purpose I could have made a screen recording to demonstrate this and then sent 
the recording to the developer asking if the problem could be fixed in a future 
update.

  In iOS 11 or at least the last time I used screen recording for this purpose 
which I am pretty sure 

Re: Screen Recording

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Richard, thank you for the explanation.  I will look at this as it would 
help me at times.  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

You can enable Screen Recording under Settings, Control Center, Customize 
Controls.

You can enable and disable things to show up on the control center and you can 
reorganize them.

This is a video recording of what you are doing on the screen.  Before you 
begin, there is a button to turn on the microphone if you want to have it 
include the sound of VoiceOver speaking or do a narration explaining what you 
are doing.

 

When you press the home and power buttons together, that is a “Screen Shot” 
which is just a snapshot of the screen, rather than a video.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

 

Hi, how do you turn on screen recording?  How do you turn it off?  
Now, is this the same as taking a picture of the screen with the home and lock 
buttons pressed at the same time?  Andy and Shubert

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 8:13 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Screen Recording

 

 

Yes, I would think if the screen curtain were on, you would have a lovely 
recording of a black screen. 

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:39 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

  Thanks Richard,
  Succinct as always I am guessing, it would be screen curtain sensitive?
  Sandy thanks Richard,

  Succinct as always!

   

  Sent from The dark side of the moon


  On 5 Feb 2018, at 13:43, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

Hi Sandy, 

If you were wanting to do a tutorial on how to use a particular feature or 
app on an iDevice, you could use screen recording so the person could both see 
and hear what you are doing. 

I suppose it could also be used to show someone what is not working, like a 
developer?

HTH,

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Feb 5, 2018, at 3:41 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

  hi,
  Sorry for my ignorance… I have tried googling, still can't get my head 
around it. could someone take a moment to explain in what circumstances One 
would use this screen recording feature?
  thanks, Sandy

  Sent from The dark side of the moon




On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

 

I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely 
had this issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen 
recording from late September I also found one I made on January 11 and that is 
where I noticed it for the first time.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

    Subject: RE: Screen Recording

 

This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen 
recording from about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing 
the same problem as reported, in my latest screen recording.  

 

Very, very interesting.  

 

We should all report this.

 

Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.

 

It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small 
release for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

    Subject: RE: Screen Recording

 

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through 
the external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

 

RE: Screen Recording

[Richard Turner]

You can enable Screen Recording under Settings, Control Center, Customize 
Controls.
You can enable and disable things to show up on the control center and you can 
reorganize them.
This is a video recording of what you are doing on the screen.  Before you 
begin, there is a button to turn on the microphone if you want to have it 
include the sound of VoiceOver speaking or do a narration explaining what you 
are doing.

When you press the home and power buttons together, that is a “Screen Shot” 
which is just a snapshot of the screen, rather than a video.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi, how do you turn on screen recording?  How do you turn it off?  
Now, is this the same as taking a picture of the screen with the home and lock 
buttons pressed at the same time?  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen Recording


Yes, I would think if the screen curtain were on, you would have a lovely 
recording of a black screen.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:39 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Thanks Richard,
Succinct as always I am guessing, it would be screen curtain sensitive?
Sandy thanks Richard,
Succinct as always!

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 5 Feb 2018, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Sandy,
If you were wanting to do a tutorial on how to use a particular feature or app 
on an iDevice, you could use screen recording so the person could both see and 
hear what you are doing.
I suppose it could also be used to show someone what is not working, like a 
developer?
HTH,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Feb 5, 2018, at 3:41 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
hi,
Sorry for my ignorance… I have tried googling, still can't get my head around 
it. could someone take a moment to explain in what circumstances One would use 
this screen recording feature?
thanks, Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon


On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely had this 
issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen recording from 
late September I also found one I made on January 11 and that is where I 
noticed it for the first time.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen recording from 
about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing the same problem 
as reported, in my latest screen recording.

Very, very interesting.

We should all report this.

Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.

It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small release 
for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 

Re: Screen Recording

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi, how do you turn on screen recording?  How do you turn it off?  
Now, is this the same as taking a picture of the screen with the home and lock 
buttons pressed at the same time?  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Screen Recording


Yes, I would think if the screen curtain were on, you would have a lovely 
recording of a black screen. 
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:39 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:


  Thanks Richard,
  Succinct as always I am guessing, it would be screen curtain sensitive?
  Sandy thanks Richard,
  Succinct as always!

  Sent from The dark side of the moon

  On 5 Feb 2018, at 13:43, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:



Hi Sandy, 
If you were wanting to do a tutorial on how to use a particular feature or 
app on an iDevice, you could use screen recording so the person could both see 
and hear what you are doing. 
I suppose it could also be used to show someone what is not working, like a 
developer?
HTH,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Feb 5, 2018, at 3:41 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:


  hi,
  Sorry for my ignorance… I have tried googling, still can't get my head 
around it. could someone take a moment to explain in what circumstances One 
would use this screen recording feature?
  thanks, Sandy

  Sent from The dark side of the moon


On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:



I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely 
had this issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen 
recording from late September I also found one I made on January 11 and that is 
where I noticed it for the first time.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

    Subject: RE: Screen Recording



This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen 
recording from about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing 
the same problem as reported, in my latest screen recording.  



Very, very interesting.  



We should all report this.



Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.



It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small 
release for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.



Mark





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

    Subject: RE: Screen Recording



This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through 
the external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi

Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com

    Subject: Re: Screen Recording



Hi Richard,

I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume 
of VO in the video is very low. 



Godwin Adoyi Agada

Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.

(Sent from my iPhone)



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>

Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Screen Recording 



Hi,

I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to 
normal after stopping the recording and then playing it back.

Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very 
quiet because it is in the earpiece during recording.

If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOve

Re: Screen Recording

[Richard Turner]

Yes, I would think if the screen curtain were on, you would have a lovely 
recording of a black screen.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:39 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Thanks Richard,
Succinct as always I am guessing, it would be screen curtain sensitive?
Sandy thanks Richard,
Succinct as always!

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 5 Feb 2018, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Hi Sandy,
If you were wanting to do a tutorial on how to use a particular feature or app 
on an iDevice, you could use screen recording so the person could both see and 
hear what you are doing.
I suppose it could also be used to show someone what is not working, like a 
developer?
HTH,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Feb 5, 2018, at 3:41 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

hi,
Sorry for my ignorance… I have tried googling, still can't get my head around 
it. could someone take a moment to explain in what circumstances One would use 
this screen recording feature?
thanks, Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely had this 
issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen recording from 
late September I also found one I made on January 11 and that is where I 
noticed it for the first time.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen recording from 
about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing the same problem 
as reported, in my latest screen recording.

Very, very interesting.

We should all report this.

Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.

It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small release 
for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low.

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recordin

Re: Screen Recording

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Thanks Richard,
Succinct as always I am guessing, it would be screen curtain sensitive?
Sandy thanks Richard,
Succinct as always!

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 5 Feb 2018, at 13:43, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> If you were wanting to do a tutorial on how to use a particular feature or 
> app on an iDevice, you could use screen recording so the person could both 
> see and hear what you are doing. 
> I suppose it could also be used to show someone what is not working, like a 
> developer?
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Feb 5, 2018, at 3:41 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
>> hi,
>> Sorry for my ignorance… I have tried googling, still can't get my head 
>> around it. could someone take a moment to explain in what circumstances One 
>> would use this screen recording feature?
>> thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>> 
>>>> On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely had 
>>> this issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen 
>>> recording from late September I also found one I made on January 11 and 
>>> that is where I noticed it for the first time.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. 
>>> Taylor
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Screen Recording
>>> 
>>> This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen recording 
>>> from about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing the 
>>> same problem as reported, in my latest screen recording.  
>>> 
>>> Very, very interesting.  
>>> 
>>> We should all report this.
>>> 
>>> Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.
>>> 
>>> It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small 
>>> release for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Screen Recording
>>> 
>>> This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
>>> external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
>>> screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, 
>>> but I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a 
>>> message to Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as 
>>> possible should send a message, though, because screenrecording worked 
>>> great for showing a developer if something didn’t work in an app or if 
>>> buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that is no longer possible.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Godwin Adoyi
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Screen Recording
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO 
>>> in the video is very low. 
>>> 
>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>>> Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Screen Recording 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal 
>>> after stopping the recording and then playing it back.
>>> Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
>>> because it is in the earpiece during recording.
>>> If you intend to have the screen recording include what Voice

Re: Screen Recording

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sandy,
If you were wanting to do a tutorial on how to use a particular feature or app 
on an iDevice, you could use screen recording so the person could both see and 
hear what you are doing.
I suppose it could also be used to show someone what is not working, like a 
developer?
HTH,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Feb 5, 2018, at 3:41 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

hi,
Sorry for my ignorance… I have tried googling, still can't get my head around 
it. could someone take a moment to explain in what circumstances One would use 
this screen recording feature?
thanks, Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely had this 
issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen recording from 
late September I also found one I made on January 11 and that is where I 
noticed it for the first time.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen recording from 
about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing the same problem 
as reported, in my latest screen recording.

Very, very interesting.

We should all report this.

Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.

It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small release 
for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low.

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Screen Recording

Dear all,
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
--
The following information is im

Re: Screen Recording

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
Sorry for my ignorance… I have tried googling, still can't get my head around 
it. could someone take a moment to explain in what circumstances One would use 
this screen recording feature?
thanks, Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely had 
> this issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen 
> recording from late September I also found one I made on January 11 and that 
> is where I noticed it for the first time.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Screen Recording
> 
> This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen recording 
> from about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing the same 
> problem as reported, in my latest screen recording.  
> 
> Very, very interesting.  
> 
> We should all report this.
> 
> Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.
> 
> It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small 
> release for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Screen Recording
> 
> This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
> external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
> screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, 
> but I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message 
> to Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should 
> send a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a 
> developer if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled 
> etc. Now that is no longer possible.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Godwin Adoyi
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen Recording
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO 
> in the video is very low. 
> 
> Godwin Adoyi Agada
> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
> Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Screen Recording 
> 
> Hi,
> I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal 
> after stopping the recording and then playing it back.
> Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
> because it is in the earpiece during recording.
> If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
> then you would probably need an external speaker.
> I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
> during recording.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Godwin Adoyi
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Screen Recording
> 
> Dear all, 
> I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During 
> recording, the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after 
> recording, during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly 
> hears it. I'm using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?
> 
> Godwin Adoyi Agada
> Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
> (Sent from my iPhone)
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RE: Screen Recording

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have recently updated to the public beta of iOS 11.3, but definitely had this 
issue I think it was January 11 because when I found the screen recording from 
late September I also found one I made on January 11 and that is where I 
noticed it for the first time.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen recording from 
about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing the same problem 
as reported, in my latest screen recording.  

Very, very interesting.  

We should all report this.

Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.

It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small release 
for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low. 

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Richard 
Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Recording 
 
Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.
 
Richard
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen Recording
 
Dear all, 
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?
 
Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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RE: Screen Recording

[M. Taylor]

This bug must have just been introduced because I have a screen recording from 
about two weeks ago and it’s fine.  However, I am experiencing the same problem 
as reported, in my latest screen recording.  

Very, very interesting.  

We should all report this.

Sieghard, I received the screen recording you sent, off-list.

It’s getting so that I am becoming afraid of upgrading to even a small release 
for fear of yet another iOS feature being broken.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low. 

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Richard 
Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Recording 
 
Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.
 
Richard
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen Recording
 
Dear all, 
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?
 
Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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RE: Screen Recording

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It won’t be if nobody reports it.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Yes. This is an important feature. Hope it is fixed in the next release.
Regards,

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 8:00:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low.

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.

Richard


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Screen Recording

Dear all,
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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Re: Screen Recording

[Godwin Adoyi]

Yes. This is an important feature. Hope it is fixed in the next release.
Regards,

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 8:00:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low.

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Screen Recording

Dear all,
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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RE: Screen Recording

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This is a bug, when iOS 11 was first released Voiceover came through the 
external speaker and was perfectly audible during playback. I haven’t used 
screenrecording that often so I don’t know in which update this got broken, but 
I noticed it as well a couple of weeks ago. I was going to send a message to 
Apple Accessibility, but forgot. I think as many people as possible should send 
a message, though, because screenrecording worked great for showing a developer 
if something didn’t work in an app or if buttons were unlabelled etc. Now that 
is no longer possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recording

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low.

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Screen Recording

Dear all,
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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RE: Screen Recording

[M. Taylor]

Hello Godwin,

I have conducted two screen recording sessions; 1 on my 8 Plus and 1 on my 6 S 
Plus.  In both instances, VoiceOver is played back at normal volume.  

During the recordings, I used only the iphone’s internal speaker.  I was very 
pleased with the results.  

I should add that I copied the recordings to my PC and played them back via 
various applications including VLC and Microsoft Movie Maker.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen Recording

Dear all, 
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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Re: Screen Recording

[Godwin Adoyi]

Hi Richard,
I tried the recording with JBL clip Bluetooth speaker, yet the volume of VO in 
the video is very low.

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)

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Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:07:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Recording

Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.

Richard


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Subject: Screen Recording

Dear all,
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
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during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
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Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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RE: Screen Recording

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
I just tried it on my iPhone 6S.  The VoiceOver volume returned to normal after 
stopping the recording and then playing it back.
Now, if you mean the VoiceOver volume on the recording, it is very quiet 
because it is in the earpiece during recording.
If you intend to have the screen recording include what VoiceOver is saying, 
then you would probably need an external speaker.
I am not sure if there is a setting to have VoiceOver come over the speaker 
during recording.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen Recording

Dear all,
I have an issue with the screen recording feature in IOS 11. During recording, 
the VO is heard only through the earpiece of the iPhone and after recording, 
during playback, the VO volume is ver low such that one hardly hears it. I'm 
using an iPhone 6s, IOS 11.2.5. What is the remedy?

Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
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