Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

2021-05-14 Thread Nancy Hill 

Do you have any idea/s what the trigger to this type of behavior might be?


nancy

On 5/14/2021 2:36 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote:
I too had this problem and tried turning off image recognition and so 
on but the only thing that worked was to reset all settings. A right 
royal pain but it got rid of that dratted sound on my SE second 
generation!

Harry

On 14 May 2021, at 05:34, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen 
recongnition and/or describe images.

Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something 
being eneabled or disabled.

Best of luck.



Richard
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discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


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On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman 
 wrote:


Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, 
running the latest software, that up until several hours ago, was 
absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a 
bizarre chirping noise sounded, followed several seconds later by 
the same sound.  Seemingly simultaneously, I became unable to use 
dictation or the text field to change my name, even though it said 
“editing”.

I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore 
settings. When it came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it 
. . . the same thing happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I 
restored settings. Input all the needed information to get to the 
restore from backup process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. 
Tried using an edit field in messages and other places. Same weird 
sound, same inability to type, though at the moment dictation is 
working.

However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I 
don’t even know if Apple is having people come to physical stores 
yet. Has anyone heard of this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.

Christine

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RE: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

2021-05-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Screen recognition can result in strange issues, in Facebook, for example, it 
causes all the tabs along th ebotton to disappear and the odd time when I 
accidently turned it on it took me a bit to finally figure out what happened. 
However, as Christopher said, it is not useless since there are apps which 
would be completely inaccessible it it were not for screen recognition. We use 
3CX at my retail store for our phone system. It's an open-source VoIP platform 
and their iOS app is useless with
Voiceover except that after you turn on screen recognition in that app it 
becomes extremely useable.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

Just an aside, but I don’t find screen recognition or describe images useless. 
Lots of times it’s just interesting to see what sighted people see or what my 
phone looks like, but it’s also been helpful in a few situations. I agree that 
it’s nice it’s a toggle so people can turn it off, and I get that some people 
won’t like it, but I wouldn’t call it useless even if I didn’t use it.

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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen recongnition 
and/or describe images.
Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
eneabled or disabled.
Best of luck.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>


On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman 
mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre chirping 
noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  Seemingly 
simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field to change my 
name, even though it said “editing”.
I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When it 
came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field in 
messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, though at 
the moment dictation is working.
However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard of 
this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
Christine

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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

2021-05-14 Thread Gerardo Corripio 
I don’t know if it’s the same thing that happened to me last week with mine? I 
was on Speaker hone, and suddenly I heard this buzzing sound! I thought there 
for a few milliseconds that the internal speaker had gone bad! But the weird 
thing was, when I connected the wired Earpods voiceover and the sounds were 
heard normal! So I was on the verge of rebooting the phone, when upon a few 
disconnects and connecting the Earpods, the SE 2nd, went back to normal! The 
internal speaker worked again! Nevertheless I rebooted the phone just to be on 
the same side, and fortunately, this hasn’t hapened again! Upon Googling, I see 
this problem happened on some models of iPhone 7? Do you guys remember or 
experienced this?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 14 may 2021, a la(s) 1:36 a.m., 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I too had this problem and tried turning off image recognition and so on but 
> the only thing that worked was to reset all settings. A right royal pain but 
> it got rid of that dratted sound on my SE second generation!
> Harry 
> 
>>> On 14 May 2021, at 05:34, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen 
>> recongnition and/or describe images.
>> Or, you got braille screen input on.
>> I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
>> I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
>> eneabled or disabled.
>> Best of luck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard 
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good day all:
>>> As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running 
>>> the latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
>>> Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre 
>>> chirping noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  
>>> Seemingly simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text 
>>> field to change my name, even though it said “editing”.
>>> I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
>>> I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
>>> I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When 
>>> it came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
>>> happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
>>> So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
>>> settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from 
>>> backup process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit 
>>> field in messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to 
>>> type, though at the moment dictation is working.
>>> However, this is obviously not sustainable.
>>> Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
>>> know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone 
>>> heard of this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
>>> Christine
>>> 
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RE: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

2021-05-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
Just an aside, but I don’t find screen recognition or describe images useless. 
Lots of times it’s just interesting to see what sighted people see or what my 
phone looks like, but it’s also been helpful in a few situations. I agree that 
it’s nice it’s a toggle so people can turn it off, and I get that some people 
won’t like it, but I wouldn’t call it useless even if I didn’t use it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen recongnition 
and/or describe images.
Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
eneabled or disabled.
Best of luck.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman 
mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre chirping 
noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  Seemingly 
simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field to change my 
name, even though it said “editing”.
I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When it 
came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field in 
messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, though at 
the moment dictation is working.
However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard of 
this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
Christine

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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

2021-05-14 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
I too had this problem and tried turning off image recognition and so on but 
the only thing that worked was to reset all settings. A right royal pain but it 
got rid of that dratted sound on my SE second generation!
Harry 

> On 14 May 2021, at 05:34, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen 
> recongnition and/or describe images.
> Or, you got braille screen input on.
> I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
> I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
> eneabled or disabled.
> Best of luck.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Good day all:
>> As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
>> latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
>> Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre 
>> chirping noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  
>> Seemingly simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field 
>> to change my name, even though it said “editing”.
>> I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
>> I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
>> I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When 
>> it came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
>> happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
>> So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
>> settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
>> process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field 
>> in messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, 
>> though at the moment dictation is working.
>> However, this is obviously not sustainable.
>> Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
>> know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard 
>> of this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
>> Christine
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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

2021-05-13 Thread Richard Turner 
It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen recongnition 
and/or describe images.
Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
eneabled or disabled.
Best of luck.



Richard
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On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre chirping 
noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  Seemingly 
simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field to change my 
name, even though it said “editing”.
I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When it 
came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field in 
messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, though at 
the moment dictation is working.
However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard of 
this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
Christine

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