Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
I have talked with a distributor about this issue, and it is definitely a Humanware issue. They really need to address this soon. I notice that it happens more when writing in Braille than when reading in Braille, but it does happen in both situations. On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 6:18:42 PM UTC-6, Alex Hall wrote: I'd be inclined to blame Humanware. They told me in the past that it's Apple's fault you can't use the backspace or enter keys to, well, backspace or enter. However, other displays do this, and Apple's own braille commands list indicatest dot 7 for backspace and dot 8 for enter. That, and the fact that this is the first I've heard of the problem (i.e. I've not heard of other displays doing this) seems to point to Humanware as the culprit. On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Jennie Facer jennie...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I have contacted both parties on this matter, and they both blame the other one. Jenn TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD! -Original Message- From: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:35 PM To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1 I have tried various things like turning off the auto translation and it doesn't seem to make a difference. At first it was only seeming to happen in text messages but it also happens in emails. I am not sure if it is a problem specific with their humanware device or if it is iOS related. I have used a focus 40 and haven't seemed to notice any of these kinds of lock up issues. On Dec 3, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Jennie Facer jennie...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I have the same problem. I do not know how to fix it either. I have tried and tried. Jenn Sent from smarty pants! On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos ra...@raulgallegos.com javascript: wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
Hebblo, I will try this the next time it happens. Right now I'm using the display to write this message. I'm using contracted Braille for both input and output. I'm also using the auto-translation for the contracted Braille. So far it's behaved fine. I removed the pairing information and paired it again in case things didn't connect properly. Also, since I've seen this with 2 different Brailliant displays I am comforted that it's not a problem with the hardware of just 1 unit. I'll write more if something else comes up or changes. On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:16 PM, Anisio Correia anisio.s.corr...@gmail.com wrote: When this happens to me, pressing the spacebar on the braille display usually does the trick. Anisio Correia Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I had this in iOS 7, as well, but forgetting then re-pairing the device works… Now my display does not do this… I have a BI 32. Hope Paulos On Dec 2, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
I have the same problem. I do not know how to fix it either. I have tried and tried. Jenn Sent from smarty pants! On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
I have tried various things like turning off the auto translation and it doesn't seem to make a difference. At first it was only seeming to happen in text messages but it also happens in emails. I am not sure if it is a problem specific with their humanware device or if it is iOS related. I have used a focus 40 and haven't seemed to notice any of these kinds of lock up issues. On Dec 3, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the same problem. I do not know how to fix it either. I have tried and tried. Jenn Sent from smarty pants! On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
I have contacted both parties on this matter, and they both blame the other one. Jenn TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1 I have tried various things like turning off the auto translation and it doesn't seem to make a difference. At first it was only seeming to happen in text messages but it also happens in emails. I am not sure if it is a problem specific with their humanware device or if it is iOS related. I have used a focus 40 and haven't seemed to notice any of these kinds of lock up issues. On Dec 3, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the same problem. I do not know how to fix it either. I have tried and tried. Jenn Sent from smarty pants! On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
I'd be inclined to blame Humanware. They told me in the past that it's Apple's fault you can't use the backspace or enter keys to, well, backspace or enter. However, other displays do this, and Apple's own braille commands list indicatest dot 7 for backspace and dot 8 for enter. That, and the fact that this is the first I've heard of the problem (i.e. I've not heard of other displays doing this) seems to point to Humanware as the culprit. On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote: I have contacted both parties on this matter, and they both blame the other one. Jenn TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1 I have tried various things like turning off the auto translation and it doesn't seem to make a difference. At first it was only seeming to happen in text messages but it also happens in emails. I am not sure if it is a problem specific with their humanware device or if it is iOS related. I have used a focus 40 and haven't seemed to notice any of these kinds of lock up issues. On Dec 3, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the same problem. I do not know how to fix it either. I have tried and tried. Jenn Sent from smarty pants! On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
Hi there. I had this in iOS 7, as well, but forgetting then re-pairing the device works… Now my display does not do this… I have a BI 32. Hope Paulos On Dec 2, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Brailliant BI and iOS 8.1.1
When this happens to me, pressing the spacebar on the braille display usually does the trick. Anisio Correia Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I had this in iOS 7, as well, but forgetting then re-pairing the device works… Now my display does not do this… I have a BI 32. Hope Paulos On Dec 2, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello all. Wondering if anyone has issues with the Humanware Brailliant BI Braille display locking up when using it with an iPhone on iOS 8.1.1. I have a display and after a while of moving around and editing the display freezes. The phone continues to speak without issues, but I have to turn off the display, lock the phone, and then turn on the display again and start over in order for things to work right again. I don't have a way to compare if this was the issue with iOS 7.x or if it might be an on-going issue with the Brailliant display. Ideas and/or suggestions welcome. I've already removed and paired the display again and I have no connection issues. Just the freezing issues, and yet there seems to be no pattern in when it happens. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
