Re: Can't send to this group without sight
If you just want to get an answer to a question, you might consider subscribing to a list with less traffic, such as the accessible-ios list. To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-requ...@freelists.org with subscribe on the subject line. You could also set up a filter on Gmail to send traffic from this list to it's own folder. You could then use your email clients search options to look for topics you're interested in. On 08/11/2013 12:19 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: For me, the problem is that I rarely visit this group because I don't want to deal with the volume of messages this group generates. No offence. I just want to get in and get out. See what I mean? Now, I did solve one of my problems by figuring out how to search for threads I've started so I can check in on them. But I still have the problem of not being able to post from either the iPhone or my Mac from the web. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't send to this group without sight
why would you do it that way? why not just use the email app on your phone. -Original Message- From: Kevin Gibbs Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Can't send to this group without sight
Hi Kevin, Ultimately it is your choice how you deal with the group, but I find it most efficient to subscribe to individual emails and to use an email address which I specifically set up for this group. I guess you might be able to do the same with a filter which sends all group messages to a particular mailbox, but using a completely different address to me is easier and more logical. So, when I come home in the evening and find 60 or 80 messages (sometimes more) in my Inbox of the email I use for the group, it takes me probably about 1 minute or 2 at the most to go through all the messages and first of all delete everything I am either not interested in or feel I can't contribute. This usually includes anything to do with games, jailbreaking and so on. Those messages that are left I then open and read or take a quick look, once again, there are usually a bunch which can immediately be deleted like when people reply to a thread Thanks for that information or Yes, I really like that app too; the usual one-liners which Raul encourages people not to send, which everybody hates and yet which people continue to send. Anyhow, I think you get the drift, to me having all posts in one Inbox is not really different then logging into the Viphone list online and to browse through the topics and if I do want to send a message or reply to one it's way faster and easier to do this from my Inbox inside Outlook or whichever mail client you might use then to do it on the web, really the same reason why I prefer to use Outlook for all my email instead of the web interface. If I have a super busy day and really can't be bothered to read anything I just press Control+A to select all messages in the Inbox and then follow that with Delete and bingo, my Inbox is cleaned up for another day. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight For me, the problem is that I rarely visit this group because I don't want to deal with the volume of messages this group generates. No offence. I just want to get in and get out. See what I mean? Now, I did solve one of my problems by figuring out how to search for threads I've started so I can check in on them. But I still have the problem of not being able to post from either the iPhone or my Mac from the web. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't send to this group without sight
For me, the problem is that I rarely visit this group because I don't want to deal with the volume of messages this group generates. No offence. I just want to get in and get out. See what I mean? Now, I did solve one of my problems by figuring out how to search for threads I've started so I can check in on them. But I still have the problem of not being able to post from either the iPhone or my Mac from the web. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Can't send to this group without sight
Hi Kevin, I agree with Ariana, reading this group and participating by email is a much nicer, faster and less frustrating experience. I prefer to do this on a computer, since I do write a fair amount on here and that is of course still much faster pon my computer than even with a Bluetooth keyboard on the iPhone. I don't want to say that you have to use email, but it's so easy nowadays to set up a gmail or Outlook.com account which you can use strictly for Viphone and maybe other groups you like to participate in. This way the mail goes into a separate Inbox and doesn't interfere at all with your normal mail. I used to subscribe to digest messages, but I have since discovered that subscribing to individual messages gives me more control and is actually faster. I have conversation view turned on so when I arrow through the list of messages I can simply delete those topics I am not interested in, I can open messages I think I want to check out and if it's something I want to reply to I just have to do a Control+R, type my message and press Control+Enter to send it. Writing a new message is just as easy since as soon as I type the first 2 or 3 letters of Viphone when I am in the To field, the list address auto completes. If you don't have time to read you can just do a Control+A in whatever email client you are using, Outlook is my choice, and press delete. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight Just out of curiosity, why not use the Mail app on the iPhone? Just a thought. I do, and I love it. Thanks, Ari On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't send to this group without sight
Of course Sieghard and Ari are right, but this still doesn't mean the web interface to Google Groups shouldn't be accessible with Safari and VoiceOver. On 08/03/2013 02:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Kevin, I agree with Ariana, reading this group and participating by email is a much nicer, faster and less frustrating experience. I prefer to do this on a computer, since I do write a fair amount on here and that is of course still much faster pon my computer than even with a Bluetooth keyboard on the iPhone. I don't want to say that you have to use email, but it's so easy nowadays to set up a gmail or Outlook.com account which you can use strictly for Viphone and maybe other groups you like to participate in. This way the mail goes into a separate Inbox and doesn't interfere at all with your normal mail. I used to subscribe to digest messages, but I have since discovered that subscribing to individual messages gives me more control and is actually faster. I have conversation view turned on so when I arrow through the list of messages I can simply delete those topics I am not interested in, I can open messages I think I want to check out and if it's something I want to reply to I just have to do a Control+R, type my message and press Control+Enter to send it. Writing a new message is just as easy since as soon as I type the first 2 or 3 letters of Viphone when I am in the To field, the list address auto completes. If you don't have time to read you can just do a Control+A in whatever email client you are using, Outlook is my choice, and press delete. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight Just out of curiosity, why not use the Mail app on the iPhone? Just a thought. I do, and I love it. Thanks, Ari On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't send to this group without sight
I can agree with that. It's not as if it would be very hard to make the interface accessible. Thanks, Ari On Aug 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Of course Sieghard and Ari are right, but this still doesn't mean the web interface to Google Groups shouldn't be accessible with Safari and VoiceOver. On 08/03/2013 02:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Kevin, I agree with Ariana, reading this group and participating by email is a much nicer, faster and less frustrating experience. I prefer to do this on a computer, since I do write a fair amount on here and that is of course still much faster pon my computer than even with a Bluetooth keyboard on the iPhone. I don't want to say that you have to use email, but it's so easy nowadays to set up a gmail or Outlook.com account which you can use strictly for Viphone and maybe other groups you like to participate in. This way the mail goes into a separate Inbox and doesn't interfere at all with your normal mail. I used to subscribe to digest messages, but I have since discovered that subscribing to individual messages gives me more control and is actually faster. I have conversation view turned on so when I arrow through the list of messages I can simply delete those topics I am not interested in, I can open messages I think I want to check out and if it's something I want to reply to I just have to do a Control+R, type my message and press Control+Enter to send it. Writing a new message is just as easy since as soon as I type the first 2 or 3 letters of Viphone when I am in the To field, the list address auto completes. If you don't have time to read you can just do a Control+A in whatever email client you are using, Outlook is my choice, and press delete. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight Just out of curiosity, why not use the Mail app on the iPhone? Just a thought. I do, and I love it. Thanks, Ari On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone
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Hi, I would guess this would probably be a request for google rather than Apple then. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote: I can agree with that. It's not as if it would be very hard to make the interface accessible. Thanks, Ari On Aug 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Of course Sieghard and Ari are right, but this still doesn't mean the web interface to Google Groups shouldn't be accessible with Safari and VoiceOver. On 08/03/2013 02:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Kevin, I agree with Ariana, reading this group and participating by email is a much nicer, faster and less frustrating experience. I prefer to do this on a computer, since I do write a fair amount on here and that is of course still much faster pon my computer than even with a Bluetooth keyboard on the iPhone. I don't want to say that you have to use email, but it's so easy nowadays to set up a gmail or Outlook.com account which you can use strictly for Viphone and maybe other groups you like to participate in. This way the mail goes into a separate Inbox and doesn't interfere at all with your normal mail. I used to subscribe to digest messages, but I have since discovered that subscribing to individual messages gives me more control and is actually faster. I have conversation view turned on so when I arrow through the list of messages I can simply delete those topics I am not interested in, I can open messages I think I want to check out and if it's something I want to reply to I just have to do a Control+R, type my message and press Control+Enter to send it. Writing a new message is just as easy since as soon as I type the first 2 or 3 letters of Viphone when I am in the To field, the list address auto completes. If you don't have time to read you can just do a Control+A in whatever email client you are using, Outlook is my choice, and press delete. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight Just out of curiosity, why not use the Mail app on the iPhone? Just a thought. I do, and I love it. Thanks, Ari On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com
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I had another thought on this issue. I too use my native email client to handle list messages, but I can definitely think of some instances where someone may not want to do this. Someone may be on no mail or digest mode and want to go to the web to reply to a specific message. Also, if I'm on the web searching for older messages, and I find one I want to reply to, then again I'd like to be able to do this from the web site itself, since it may no longer be in my trash folder. BTW, I agree the problem should be reported to Google. On 08/03/2013 07:07 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I would guess this would probably be a request for google rather than Apple then. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote: I can agree with that. It's not as if it would be very hard to make the interface accessible. Thanks, Ari On Aug 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Of course Sieghard and Ari are right, but this still doesn't mean the web interface to Google Groups shouldn't be accessible with Safari and VoiceOver. On 08/03/2013 02:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Kevin, I agree with Ariana, reading this group and participating by email is a much nicer, faster and less frustrating experience. I prefer to do this on a computer, since I do write a fair amount on here and that is of course still much faster pon my computer than even with a Bluetooth keyboard on the iPhone. I don't want to say that you have to use email, but it's so easy nowadays to set up a gmail or Outlook.com account which you can use strictly for Viphone and maybe other groups you like to participate in. This way the mail goes into a separate Inbox and doesn't interfere at all with your normal mail. I used to subscribe to digest messages, but I have since discovered that subscribing to individual messages gives me more control and is actually faster. I have conversation view turned on so when I arrow through the list of messages I can simply delete those topics I am not interested in, I can open messages I think I want to check out and if it's something I want to reply to I just have to do a Control+R, type my message and press Control+Enter to send it. Writing a new message is just as easy since as soon as I type the first 2 or 3 letters of Viphone when I am in the To field, the list address auto completes. If you don't have time to read you can just do a Control+A in whatever email client you are using, Outlook is my choice, and press delete. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arianna Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight Just out of curiosity, why not use the Mail app on the iPhone? Just a thought. I do, and I love it. Thanks, Ari On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
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Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Just out of curiosity, why not use the Mail app on the iPhone? Just a thought. I do, and I love it. Thanks, Ari On Aug 2, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I'm not talking about using the Mail app. I'm talking about posting to this group from the web. When I read through stuff on the web and wish to respond, or I decide to post something fresh while reading this board on the web, I can't get VO to read the compose or Reply buttons while viewing this, or any other Google Group in Safari on the iPhone. Let's see if that clarifies things. Thanks, KEVIN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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For some reason, I can't get voiceover to read the compose button or the reply button. Were it not for the site I do have, I wouldn't be able to get to any of the posts on this group in terms of replying or posting. This is very strange. Like I said,neither the compose button, nor the reply button are spoken by voice over on my iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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That's strange. I process mail on my ipad all the time with no trouble. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight For some reason, I can't get voiceover to read the compose button or the reply button. Were it not for the site I do have, I wouldn't be able to get to any of the posts on this group in terms of replying or posting. This is very strange. Like I said,neither the compose button, nor the reply button are spoken by voice over on my iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Both my iPhone, and iPad mini, all buttons are notes by voice over in the mail app. You may want to try turning off your phone letting it sit for about 10 seconds and then turning it back on. This is my go to solution when I can't figure out what's going wrong. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Jul 31, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote: That's strange. I process mail on my ipad all the time with no trouble. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't send to this group without sight For some reason, I can't get voiceover to read the compose button or the reply button. Were it not for the site I do have, I wouldn't be able to get to any of the posts on this group in terms of replying or posting. This is very strange. Like I said,neither the compose button, nor the reply button are spoken by voice over on my iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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its slow, but doable. I know, I do it all the time. try texting at full speed by touch and sound only. Also, there is a faceplate you can buy called speed dots. It has raised bumps where the letters usually are on the screen. Thats about $20. Anyway, it takes some time and a lot of patience to get to the point of texting or emailing at speed. -eric On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I am al low vision user. So sometimes I drop in and out with voice over and vision. I've noticed that I can't send a message to this groupfrom my iPhone without using my vision. That is, I have to turn voiceover off and type a little envelope icon at the far right of the screen in order to get a new message to open up. How do you people send a message if you're completely blind using voice over alone on an iPhone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I can't be certain, but the icon you are referring to night be the Compose button. Either that or the Reply button. Either way, you should be able to double-tap, (tap twice in quick succession), with one finger on the screen when VoiceOver is enabled to activate either button. You can perform this gesture anywhere on the screen, as long as you have tapped on or flicked to the button first. Thanks, Ari On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I am al low vision user. So sometimes I drop in and out with voice over and vision. I've noticed that I can't send a message to this groupfrom my iPhone without using my vision. That is, I have to turn voiceover off and type a little envelope icon at the far right of the screen in order to get a new message to open up. How do you people send a message if you're completely blind using voice over alone on an iPhone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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VoiceOver finds a compose button or Reply button, any or all of which we double tap on. - Original Message - From: Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:26 AM Subject: Can't send to this group without sight Guys, I am al low vision user. So sometimes I drop in and out with voice over and vision. I've noticed that I can't send a message to this groupfrom my iPhone without using my vision. That is, I have to turn voiceover off and type a little envelope icon at the far right of the screen in order to get a new message to open up. How do you people send a message if you're completely blind using voice over alone on an iPhone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
