Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-09 Thread Wayne Merritt 
If you open the article/link in Safari or read it on a Windows PC, you
should not have any trouble. I saw the article posted here but read it
in Internet Explorer with JAWS on Jonathan's site and had no trouble.
Yes, the 2 finger flick down is the VoiceOver gesture to perform a
continuous read, or "say all" if you prefer.

Wayne

On 4/7/18, Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> What is the continuous read comand? I swiped down with 2 fingers and it read
>
> the whole message.  We don't know if this matters, we've got our se phones
> running 11.3. Thanks.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Les Kriegler" <kriegle...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?
>
>
> Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech.
> The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to
> continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Kathy,
>>
>> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech
>> didn’t work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no
>> speech.  I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA
>> myself.
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt <katya20...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because
>>> when I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could
>>>
>>> do to get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only
>>> thing similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long
>>> thread of messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no
>>>
>>> problem. Has anyone noticed this?
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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-07 Thread Arlene 
What is the continuous read comand? I swiped down with 2 fingers and it read 
the whole message.  We don't know if this matters, we've got our se phones 
running 11.3. Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Les Kriegler" <kriegle...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?


Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. 
The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to 
continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> 
wrote:


Hi, Kathy,

I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech 
didn’t work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no 
speech.  I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA 
myself.


Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt <katya20...@gmail.com> wrote:

On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because 
when I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could 
do to get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only 
thing similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long 
thread of messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no 
problem. Has anyone noticed this?


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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-07 Thread Angie Nutt 
Yes, I just read it and was surprised to have that problem. Am using 6s.

All the best 
Angie


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> On 6 Apr 2018, at 22:51, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing similar to 
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> safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. Has anyone 
> noticed this?
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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-07 Thread Eric Oyen 
Sounds to me like someone at the apple development team thought it would be a 
good idea to buffer all that text. It sounds like a good idea, until you run up 
against both the CPU limitations and the memory limitations of your device. At 
that point, voiceover (which can be resource intensive) will bog down (or fail 
completely as has sometimes happened).

-Eric


> On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:02 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> I read books from Kobo, and for some months now, the longer the chapter, the 
> longer it takes VoiceOver to start reading after the command to read from the 
> top. It’s as though VoiceOver is digesting all the pages before beginning to 
> read. For 40 pages, it can take a full minute for VoiceOver to start reading.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7 Apr 2018, at 00:53, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. 
>> The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to 
>> continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Kathy,
>>> 
>>> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech 
>>> didn’t work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no 
>>> speech.  I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself.
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
 On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
 
 On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because 
 when I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could 
 do to get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only 
 thing similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread 
 of messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no 
 problem. Has anyone noticed this?
 
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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-07 Thread Anne Robertson 
I read books from Kobo, and for some months now, the longer the chapter, the 
longer it takes VoiceOver to start reading after the command to read from the 
top. It’s as though VoiceOver is digesting all the pages before beginning to 
read. For 40 pages, it can take a full minute for VoiceOver to start reading.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 7 Apr 2018, at 00:53, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. The 
> only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to continually 
> swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Kathy,
>> 
>> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech 
>> didn’t work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no 
>> speech.  I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself.
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when 
>>> I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to 
>>> get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing 
>>> similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of 
>>> messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. 
>>> Has anyone noticed this?
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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-06 Thread Les Kriegler 
Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. The 
only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to continually 
swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Kathy,
> 
> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech 
> didn’t work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no 
> speech.  I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when 
>> I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to 
>> get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing 
>> similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of 
>> messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. Has 
>> anyone noticed this?
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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-06 Thread Esther Levegnale 
Hi, Kathy,

I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech didn’t 
work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no speech.  I was 
very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

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> tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to get 
> out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing similar to 
> it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of messages. In 
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