RE: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

[janet gross]

Hi Jessica,
When you say you took picture screens, you mean the Computer screen. Is this 
right?

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Dail
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, 
the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

Hi,
I made use of this service today, to fix my computer.
It worked beautifully!
I was able to take pictures of screens & have it read via Voiceover.

Thanks,
Jessica Dail

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: 11/15/2023 01:58 PM
Subject: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the 
Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI

This sounds very interesting and since it is clearly stated that it does not 
replace the option to speak with an actual person I would say this is probably 
a good addition.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 9:45 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Fwd: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, 
the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes



I'm not sure I want AI handling my Microsoft accessibility issues but at least 
the below states a live person can be requested. Thought the list might be 
interested in the below announcement.



Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


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From: Mike from Be My Eyes
Date: November 15, 2023 at 10:59:11 AM CST
To: Alan Lemly
Subject: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the 
Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes
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Read it online

Hi Alan,

We are excited to announce a new feature for Be My Eyes Specialized Help: 
Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI.

The introduction of Be My AI to Microsoft's offering on Be My Eyes opens the 
door to a revolutionary new way to get immediate assistance through Specialized 
Help. To visit Microsoft's profile, open the Be My Eyes app, and navigate to 
Specialized Help. Here you can select "Technical" and click on Microsoft to 
open their profile on Be My Eyes. You can now tap on the new "Chat with Be My 
AI" button on Microsoft's profile and ask any question through a text message! 
Blind users of Be My Eyes will always have the option to use traditional human 
conversations with a Microsoft agent.

Whether you need to set up your new Microsoft account, reboot your laptop, or 
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assist you with a number of tasks. This new service from Microsoft on Be My 
Eyes is available to all iOS users and is coming soon for Android devices. You 
can reach out to Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer 24/7 from over 150 
countries worldwide. The service is currently available in English.

You can learn more about Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on our 
new blog post Introducing Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on Be 
My Eyes

PS: Do you know someone who can benefit from this new service? Make sure to 
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Re: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

[Jessica Dail]

Hi,I made use of this service today, to fix my computer.It worked beautifully!I was able to take pictures of screens & have it read via Voiceover.Thanks,Jessica Dail- Original Message -From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: 11/15/2023 01:58 PMSubject: RE: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My EyesMicrosoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI This sounds very interesting and since it is clearly stated that it does not replace the option to speak with an actual person I would say this is probably a good addition.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan LemlySent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 9:45 AMTo: VIPhone Email List Subject: Fwd: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes I'm not sure I want AI handling my Microsoft accessibility issues but at least the below states a live person can be requested. Thought the list might be interested in the below announcement.  Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: Mike from Be My Eyes Date: November 15, 2023 at 10:59:11 AM CSTTo: Alan Lemly Subject: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My EyesReply-To: no-re...@bemyeyes.comRead it onlineHi Alan, We are excited to announce a new feature for Be My Eyes Specialized Help: Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI. The introduction of Be My AI to Microsoft's offering on Be My Eyes opens the door to a revolutionary new way to get immediate assistance through Specialized Help. To visit Microsoft's profile, open the Be My Eyes app, and navigate to Specialized Help. Here you can select "Technical" and click on Microsoft to open their profile on Be My Eyes. You can now tap on the new "Chat with Be My AI" button on Microsoft's profile and ask any question through a text message! Blind users of Be My Eyes will always have the option to use traditional human conversations with a Microsoft agent. Whether you need to set up your new Microsoft account, reboot your laptop, or install and update software, Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk can assist you with a number of tasks. This new service from Microsoft on Be My Eyes is available to all iOS users and is coming soon for Android devices. You can reach out to Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer 24/7 from over 150 countries worldwide. The service is currently available in English. You can learn more about Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on our new blog post Introducing Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on Be My Eyes PS: Do you know someone who can benefit from this new service? Make sure to forward this email to them and invite them to join Be My Eyes! Best, Mike Buckley, Be My Eyes CEOKeep in touch, find us on: Questions or concerns? Try our FAQ or contact our support team. If you'd rather not get these updates anymore, please unsubscribe here.Our address: Be My Eyes, 2345 Yale Street, 1st Floor, Palo Alto, CA 94306  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/028A5242-15A2-4802-8AA7-6DAD6C54266B%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit 

RE: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

[la...@comcast.net]

I just posted about another book which won't download on the Stream 3 and won't 
unzip on the Sense player. A few days ago, I downloaded it using my bs 6. That 
copy opens and reads fine on my Sense player. Title and author are in my 
earlier post. 
- Original Message -
From: regina alvarado 
Date: Thursday, November 09, 2023 09:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

Apparently, Bookshare is having a problem. That is the first time I have ever 
heard of that message coming down on an audiobook. However, last night on my 
e-reader, I got the message about the zipped file at least three times. As I 
said there has never been a problem with audiobooks, so I'm guessing that book 
share is having a problem. 

Reggie Alvarado 
On Nov 8, 2023, at 10:04 PM, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried downloading this title and after three "Please Wait" messages, O 
received a message stating "error when unzipping the book".
Dan
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again
I also tried both  books, and although they both remained in the waiting 
category for maybe a minute, they eventually downloaded. I have always thought 
this having to wait  it  perhaps some kind of interface situation between Voice 
Dream and Bookshare, or perhaps Bookshare  sometimes just takes a bit of time 
before it can send the book to VoiceDream.  but I find it to be a minor 
annoyance rather than a problem. Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
On Nov 8, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
Mary,  that book also took less than a minute to download, and was immediately 
available. I waited until it said download complete before clothe$ing the 
searcheaof course.
Not sure what happens in this case. I'd check your router, ISP, ...
HTH,
Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley 
(Sent from my iPhone)
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> The name of the book that's not becoming available is shadow Warriors of 
> World War II. It has a subtitle, but if you search on just that as the title, 
> you should get it. I've tried it twice, and it's not becoming available after 
> hours.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 2:46 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, if you would like me to test one of those books, send me the title.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John
>> Wesley (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
 On Nov 8, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. I have iCloud turned on, and I have been keeping everything
>>> up-to-date, including one that just showed up today. The problem has
>>> not gone away with the recent update. I thought it had gone away a
>>> few days ago. But there have been I believe two updates since then,
>>> and one of them broke it and the next one didn't fix it. This is on
>>> an iPhone XR and an iPad mini six. And I never do audiobooks from
>>> book share Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 Since Mary sent this to the Voice Dream Products list; I'm quite sure she 
 is talking about Voice Dr,k Reader and Bookshare as the source.
 I have only experienced this with large audio books and they eventually 
 became available.
 Are you syncing with iCloud? And, have you updated in the last couple of 
 days?
 
 
 Richard, USA
 ——
 "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John
 Wesley (Sent from my iPhone)
 
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 11:53 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mary, with what app, audible, bard, something else?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:34 PM
> To: voicedreamprodu...@groups.io; via VIPhone
> 
> Subject: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again
> 
> I'm just wondering if anybody is experiencing this again or still. I 
> downloaded a book this morning on my phone, it said download complete and 
> then the download sat there as being unavailable for a long time. Close 
> that one and open my iPad and got the same message. Unavailable. 
> Re-downloaded on both devices. Same thing. There is a new update today. 
> It did not change things. The book in question is shadow warriors of 
> World War II. I don't know what these people are doing, but it's not 
> helping. And yes I have synch turned on.
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

[la...@comcast.net]

I tried again and my book also downloaded It has been several weeks since I 
gave up, so maybe Bookshare fixed something. 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2023 04:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

Mary,  that book also took less than a minute to download, and was immediately 
available. I waited until it said download complete before clothe$ing the 
searcheaof course. 
Not sure what happens in this case. I'd check your router, ISP, ... 
HTH,
Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> The name of the book that's not becoming available is shadow Warriors of 
> World War II. It has a subtitle, but if you search on just that as the title, 
> you should get it. I've tried it twice, and it's not becoming available after 
> hours.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 2:46 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, if you would like me to test one of those books, send me the title.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
 On Nov 8, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. I have iCloud turned on, and I have been keeping everything 
>>> up-to-date, including one that just showed up today. The problem has not 
>>> gone away with the recent update. I thought it had gone away a few days 
>>> ago. But there have been I believe two updates since then, and one of them 
>>> broke it and the next one didn't fix it. This is on an iPhone XR and an 
>>> iPad mini six. And I never do audiobooks from book share
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
 
 Since Mary sent this to the Voice Dream Products list; I'm quite sure she 
 is talking about Voice Dr,k Reader and Bookshare as the source.
 I have only experienced this with large audio books and they eventually 
 became available.
 Are you syncing with iCloud? And, have you updated in the last couple of 
 days?
 
 
 Richard, USA
 ——
 "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
 (Sent from my iPhone)
 
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 11:53 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mary, with what app, audible, bard, something else?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:34 PM
> To: voicedreamprodu...@groups.io; via VIPhone 
> Subject: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again
> 
> I'm just wondering if anybody is experiencing this again or still. I 
> downloaded a book this morning on my phone, it said download complete and 
> then the download sat there as being unavailable for a long time. Close 
> that one and open my iPad and got the same message. Unavailable. 
> Re-downloaded on both devices. Same thing. There is a new update today. 
> It did not change things. The book in question is shadow warriors of 
> World War II. I don't know what these people are doing, but it's not 
> helping. And yes I have synch turned on.
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

[la...@comcast.net]

tried several times on different players. Maybe the update will let me. 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2023 04:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

Your teaching my child what? took about 1 minute or maybe a few seconds more to 
complete the download, and it was available immediately. 
Perhaps your router was having an issue? Not sure. 
Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 3:06 PM, la...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> I'll send you one. Your teaching my child what?
> by Miriam Grossman
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner 
> Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2023 03:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again
> 
> Mary, if you would like me to test one of those books, send me the title.
> 
> Richard, USA
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. I have iCloud turned on, and I have been keeping everything up-to-date, 
>> including one that just showed up today. The problem has not gone away with 
>> the recent update. I thought it had gone away a few days ago. But there have 
>> been I believe two updates since then, and one of them broke it and the next 
>> one didn't fix it. This is on an iPhone XR and an iPad mini six. And I never 
>> do audiobooks from book share
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 8, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since Mary sent this to the Voice Dream Products list; I'm quite sure she 
>>> is talking about Voice Dr,k Reader and Bookshare as the source.
>>> I have only experienced this with large audio books and they eventually 
>>> became available.
>>> Are you syncing with iCloud? And, have you updated in the last couple of 
>>> days?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> ——
>>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>> 
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 11:53 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Mary, with what app, audible, bard, something else?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:34 PM
 To: voicedreamprodu...@groups.io; via VIPhone 
 Subject: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again
 
 I'm just wondering if anybody is experiencing this again or still. I 
 downloaded a book this morning on my phone, it said download complete and 
 then the download sat there as being unavailable for a long time. Close 
 that one and open my iPad and got the same message. Unavailable. 
 Re-downloaded on both devices. Same thing. There is a new update today. It 
 did not change things. The book in question is shadow warriors of World 
 War II. I don't know what these people are doing, but it's not helping. 
 And yes I have synch turned on.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

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I'll send you one. Your teaching my child what? 
by Miriam Grossman 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2023 03:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again

Mary, if you would like me to test one of those books, send me the title. 

Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Yes. I have iCloud turned on, and I have been keeping everything up-to-date, 
> including one that just showed up today. The problem has not gone away with 
> the recent update. I thought it had gone away a few days ago. But there have 
> been I believe two updates since then, and one of them broke it and the next 
> one didn't fix it. This is on an iPhone XR and an iPad mini six. And I never 
> do audiobooks from book share
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Since Mary sent this to the Voice Dream Products list; I'm quite sure she is 
>> talking about Voice Dr,k Reader and Bookshare as the source.
>> I have only experienced this with large audio books and they eventually 
>> became available.
>> Are you syncing with iCloud? And, have you updated in the last couple of 
>> days?
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
 On Nov 8, 2023, at 11:53 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary, with what app, audible, bard, something else?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:34 PM
>>> To: voicedreamprodu...@groups.io; via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Downloaded books not actually becoming available again
>>> 
>>> I'm just wondering if anybody is experiencing this again or still. I 
>>> downloaded a book this morning on my phone, it said download complete and 
>>> then the download sat there as being unavailable for a long time. Close 
>>> that one and open my iPad and got the same message. Unavailable. 
>>> Re-downloaded on both devices. Same thing. There is a new update today. It 
>>> did not change things. The book in question is shadow warriors of World War 
>>> II. I don't know what these people are doing, but it's not helping. And yes 
>>> I have synch turned on.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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RE: Re: Pro vs Max

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

15 Plus: 23 hours
15 Pro: 26 hours
15 Max: 29 hours


- Original Message -
From: lenron brown 
Date: 09/24/2023 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

Hm I don't even get 2 days with my max. When I got it I got about 16
to 18 hours, but now I still can get through 12 or 14 depending on
what I am doing. Once you really start to break these phones in the
battery doesn't last as long because your doing everything on it. I
read I watch youtube, and do a bit of social media. Along with my
banking and gps. So I am never complaining about more battery life.
On 9/24/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I got an iPhone 14 Pro this past summer. I don't use the battery as heavily
> as some of you, but I routinely get two days on one charge, so I think the
> odds are good it would last through a whole day if I did use the GPS
> extensively for a day. I'm not doubting that the battery life on the Max is
> better, just saying it's surprisingly good on the regular Pro as well.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> I can't remember the numbers, but the battery life for the plus is not
>> like the battery life for the promax. My problem with the promax, aside
>> from the price, is the screen size. I can't imagine holding this thing in
>> one hand and actually doing stuff on the screen like I do with my 10 R. So
>> I think the big screens are not good for me. And it looks like according
>> to rumors, next year's Apple phones are going to be bigger than this
>> year's. I have an iPad mini. I don't need another one.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Kelly,
>>>
>>> Like Robert stated, the larger models get much, much better battery
>>> life.
>>>
>>> Before purchasing my beloved 14 Pro Max, I always carried a charging
>>> cable with me, when out for a day.  With the Pro Max, I never, ever worry
>>> about running out of power in a day, even when using GPS navigation for
>>> hours at a time.  The phone is amazing.
>>>
>>> I would think that the battery on the Plus models would be as good as the
>>> Pro Max but cannot personally confirm this as I do not own a Plus model.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Robert Stigile
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 4:22 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>> I  realize you asked about the 15.
>>> I had to update in February as my 11 pro couldnt hold out nine months!
>>> I opted for the 14 pro max though a larger screen then the pro.
>>> I am so glad i did as i get 14-16 hours on one charge!
>>> This is texting mail constantly whatsapping facebook phone calling and
>>> using my hotspot with the braillesense!
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>>> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando
>>> Valley Chapter
>>> 818-381-9568
>>> Kn6uvd
>>>
 On Sep 23, 2023, at 4:11 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

 I am curious for those of you who have chosen the 15 Max over the Pro,
 what lead you to choose the Max? Battery life or something else. My
 understanding is that the biggest differences are screen size, battery
 life and the depth for zooming with the camera.

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RE: RE: Pro vs Max

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Battery life on the 15 Pro is 
23 hours, 29 on the Max.

- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
Date: 09/23/2023 06:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pro vs Max

Hi Kelly,
Like Robert stated, the larger models get much, much better battery life.
Before purchasing my beloved 14 Pro Max, I always carried a charging cable with 
me, when out for a day.  With the Pro Max, I never, ever worry about running 
out of power in a day, even when using GPS navigation for hours at a time.  The 
phone is amazing.
I would think that the battery on the Plus models would be as good as the Pro 
Max but cannot personally confirm this as I do not own a Plus model.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Stigile
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
Kelly
I  realize you asked about the 15.
I had to update in February as my 11 pro couldnt hold out nine months!
I opted for the 14 pro max though a larger screen then the pro.
I am so glad i did as i get 14-16 hours on one charge!
This is texting mail constantly whatsapping facebook phone calling and using my 
hotspot with the braillesense!
Hope this helps!
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley 
Chapter
818-381-9568
Kn6uvd
> On Sep 23, 2023, at 4:11 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> I am curious for those of you who have chosen the 15 Max over the Pro, what 
> lead you to choose the Max? Battery life or something else. My understanding 
> is that the biggest differences are screen size, battery life and the depth 
> for zooming with the camera.
> 
> Kelly
> 
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RE: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

[Richard Turner]

Since then, Winston posted an update that fixed the problem for those of us who 
had it.
So, all is working fine now.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

Allow VDSCAN to access
Camera
Siri and Search
Cellular Data
Document Storage, iCloud Drive


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: 09/23/2023 03:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

Not the settings in the app, but go to the regular settings on the phone, go 
down to VDScan and see what it says in there.
 

   

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   (Sent from my iPhone)
  
On Sep 23, 2023, at 3:35 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
  

  

  

   Language autodect is turned on.
   Scan tone is on.
   Always enhance images is on.
   Read text automatically is on.
   Show plain text after recognizing is on.
   

   I see no mention of the camera under settings.
   

   Hope that helps.
   

   Tom
   
On Sep 23, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Larry Smith  wrote:
   

   

   I just purchased the iPhone 15 max yesterday. VD scan is working here.


 

  On Sep 23, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:
 

   Hi, Richard.
   
 
   Sadly, yes. I wrote to Winston on Thursday morning and he got back to me 
this morning. Neither his update nor the 17.0.1 update has corrected the issue. 
VO tells me the app is opening, but it doesn't. However, the app is in the app 
switcher.
   
 
   I've tried several hard resets and I've completely removed and 
re-downloaded the app.
   
 
   It's like the app isn't completely opening or something.
   
 
   Winston asked me if I had any odd settings tweaked on my phone and I do 
not, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for..
   
 
   I hope that enough of us with this issue can help him find a solution. 
I'm also happy to see he's being so responsive.
 
   
 


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On 9/23/2023 11:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 
Greetings,
Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?
On my 13 pro, it won't open.
Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.
So, checking to see if others are having issues.
For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, but 
VDScan shows up in the app switcher.
Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.
I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset network 
settings.
I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….
 
 

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RE: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Allow VDSCAN to access
Camera
Siri and Search
Cellular Data
Document Storage, iCloud Drive


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: 09/23/2023 03:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

Not the settings in the app, but go to the regular settings on the phone, go 
down to VDScan and see what it says in there.
 

   

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   (Sent from my iPhone)
  
On Sep 23, 2023, at 3:35 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
  

  

  

   Language autodect is turned on.
   Scan tone is on.
   Always enhance images is on.
   Read text automatically is on.
   Show plain text after recognizing is on.
   

   I see no mention of the camera under settings.
   

   Hope that helps.
   

   Tom
   
On Sep 23, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Larry Smith  wrote:
   

   

   I just purchased the iPhone 15 max yesterday. VD scan is working here.


 

  On Sep 23, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Lisa Belville  
wrote:
 

   Hi, Richard.
   
 
   Sadly, yes. I wrote to Winston on Thursday morning and he got back to me 
this morning. Neither his update nor the 17.0.1 update has corrected the issue. 
VO tells me the app is opening, but it doesn't. However, the app is in the app 
switcher.
   
 
   I've tried several hard resets and I've completely removed and 
re-downloaded the app.
   
 
   It's like the app isn't completely opening or something.
   
 
   Winston asked me if I had any odd settings tweaked on my phone and I do 
not, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for..
   
 
   I hope that enough of us with this issue can help him find a solution. 
I'm also happy to see he's being so responsive.
 
   
 


Lisa Belville 
   missktlab1...@frontier.com  
On 9/23/2023 11:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

 
Greetings,
Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?
On my 13 pro, it won't open.
Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.
So, checking to see if others are having issues.
For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, but 
VDScan shows up in the app switcher.
Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.
I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset network 
settings.
I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….
 
 

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RE: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Hi, Richard,

Going from Menu to Settings, here's what I see.


Screen Recognition on
Always Enhance Images on
aRead Text Automatically after Capture on
Show Plain Text after Recognizing on


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: 09/23/2023 02:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

Could those who are not having a problem withell me what it says in settings, 
VDScan?
 Thanks,
 

   

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On Sep 23, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
  

  

  

   BD Scan is launching and working like a champ on my iPhone 12 Pro.
   

   
On Sep 23, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:
   

   

   
Well, some with a pro phone are not having the issue, so that is hard to 
say.


 
 
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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Robin Frost 
Subject: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

Hmm, I'm using an iPhone 14 Pro that I purchased exactly two weeks ago 
today. The phone was fine until this 16 upgrade. It is interesting that all of 
us so far have the pro model phones. Wonder if that makes a difference?

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com 
 On 9/23/2023 1:05 PM, Robin Frost wrote:
Hi Richard Lisa and all,
Yes, yes, and yes I'm part of your reporting party as I've written to him 
about this too. I have it on my 15 Pro Max but my brand new 15 Pro running iOS 
17.0.2 which is unique to 15's isn't having the issue. It is positively 
maddening for all of us and I'm sure Winston as well since he can't reproduce 
it. And I too have uninstalled and reinstalled numerous times and so hate the 
thought of resetting anything oy.
Take good care,
Robin

 On 9/23/2023 12:08 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 Greetings,
 Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?
 On my 13 pro, it won't open.
 Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.
 So, checking to see if others are having issues.
 For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, but 
VDScan shows up in the app switcher.
 Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.
 I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset network 
settings.
 I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….
 
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RE: Re: Notifications in iOS 17 are too quiet, and there's nothing you can do about it

[Renee Patete]

Setting ringtones as text tones and vice versa has been available in iOS for as 
far back as I can remember. They probably just changed it so users would find 
it easier to find the right tones, but like someone else in this thread said, 
it causes issues with iTunes tones which may be classified as "ringtones" but 
may in fact be alert tones. I have several such tones, and fortunately those 
that were assigned to contacts or other notifications have stayed the same 
after the update, as long as I don't change them.

- Original Message -
From: "Øyvind Lode" 
Date: Thursday, September 21, 2023 05:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications in iOS 17 are too quiet, and there's nothing you can 
do about it

Sorry.
I totally forgot about those with hearing aids.
I totally agree that Apple should let the customer choose notification
sounds that suit their needs.
On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 18:30, Dennis Long  wrote:
>
> I've reported it through feedback and called apple once 17 officially 
> dropped.  This was a on purpose change that I suspect will be rolled back.  
> The best they can do is give a user option to let us choose our sound.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Renee 
> Patete
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Notifications in iOS 17 are too quiet, and there's nothing you 
> can do about it
>
> I've had the same issue and have reported it in the Feedback Assistant. I 
> suspect it's a glitch or a bug that may be sorted in an update.
>
> > On 21/09/2023, at 01:09, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
> >
> > There is something to complain about
> > Because not everyone using default tones
> > After upgrade to iOS 17, I lost the possibility to use my purchased tones 
> > from iTunes Store as a alert tones because  phone not seeing it
> > I've notified Apple Support about it, and they don't know how to solve it
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 20 Sep 2023, at 1:19 pm, Øyvind Lode  wrote:
> >>
> >> My notifications come through loud and clear.
> >> I use the note sound for text messages etc and it sounds like it always 
> >> has.
> >> The only difference I find is the default notification sound.
> >> That has changed to a lower tone which I actually like.
> >> So, what are everyone complaining about?
> >>
>  On Tue, 19 Sept 2023 at 18:56, Dennis Long  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Complain Complain Complain   I did yesterday.  I will continue to do so.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> >>> Sieghard Weitzel
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 12:44 PM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: Notifications in iOS 17 are too quiet, and there's nothing 
> >>> you can do about it
> >>>
> >>> There is something you can do and that is to file this as a complaint 
> >>> with Apple Accessibility. Keep in mind that if nobody officially 
> >>> complains about it then it is unlikely anything will be done about it. If 
> >>> several hundred complaints are received then Apple may take it more 
> >>> serioously.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: '鍾 智明' via VIPhone 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 9:36 AM
> >>> To: viphone 
> >>> Subject: Notifications in iOS 17 are too quiet, and there's nothing you 
> >>> can do about it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Notifications in iOS 17 are too quiet, and there's nothing you can do 
> >>> about it
> >>>
> >>> Apple's new notification sound is too quiet, iOS 17 and other than some 
> >>> settings in specific apps, there's no way to fix it.
> >>>
> >>> By: MALCOLM OWEN
> >>> SEPTEMBER 19, 2023 11:31 AM EDT
> >>> Apple rolled out iOS 17 on Monday, complete with a long list of features 
> >>> and updates. One quiet change was the notification sound, named Rebound, 
> >>> which is a replacement for the well-known Tri-tone alert.
> >>>
> >>> The problem is that it's a literal quiet change. People are complaining 
> >>> that it is not loud enough to be really useful as a notification sound.
> >>>
> >>> In posts to X, formerly known as Twitter, users complain that the default 
> >>> notification tone in iOS 17 is too quiet "even at full volume."
> >>>
> >>> Part of the issue is there's no way to alter the sound. There's no option 
> >>> within the various settings of iOS 17 to adjust just the notification 
> >>> sound to make it louder.
> >>>
> >>> Users who prefer the sound of the Tri-tone alert are also unable to get 
> >>> that back either, as you cannot change the default sound in iOS 17.
> >>>
> >>> At this stage, there's nothing that users can do except complain to Apple 
> >>> about it. It is unclear if Apple will include extra settings in an iOS 17 
> >>> update that enables notification sounds to be altered, but if there's 
> >>> enough noise about the problem, it could become a reality in the future.
> >>>
> >>> Notifications in iOS 17 are too quiet, and there's nothing you can do 
> 

RE: Re: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may want to try different voices, I use US English Siri Voice 4 as my main 
Voiceover voice and I don't have this issue with the Mail app when I mark an 
email as read; I just tried again wearing a headset and I hear nothing like 
what you demonstrated. First I would try and reboot the phone and if it still 
happens with certain voices then you should file it as a bug/send an email to 
Apple Accessibility about it. You already have the recording so this certainly 
will help.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jasmine 
Kotsay
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

I also have this issue. It says "rod" or something.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 08:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

For me, there are no odd characters spoken, but it also does not say "read" but 
if unread it speaks unread.
 

   

   Richard, USA
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   (Sent from my iPhone)
  
On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:52 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
  

  

  I rebooted my phone. Not sure if you guys were able to get my audio 
demonstration but here it is.
  
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2ts75txmnlidu4v3xhs6u/Voiceover-Native-Mail-App-Issue-IOS17-Iphone-14.m4a?rlkey=ocgr8z07tyheihu0cv06911kqdl=0>

  Voiceover Native Mail App Issue IOS17 Iphone 14.m4a 
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2ts75txmnlidu4v3xhs6u/Voiceover-Native-Mail-App-Issue-IOS17-Iphone-14.m4a?rlkey=ocgr8z07tyheihu0cv06911kqdl=0>
  dropbox.com 
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2ts75txmnlidu4v3xhs6u/Voiceover-Native-Mail-App-Issue-IOS17-Iphone-14.m4a?rlkey=ocgr8z07tyheihu0cv06911kqdl=0>
  


   

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




I use the "Mark as Read" option all the time and have no issues with it 
reading anything in a strange way.

Maybe try and reboot your phone.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles

Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:12 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered



Running IOS17 on the regular 14 model, when flicking down say from a message in 
a list of messages that are not unread will give you a choice of marking it as 
read as usually does, no problem there but when I for instance say activate 
that option, voiceover, instead doesn't read it as "read" instead it sounds 
like a few Consonants like the letter R, the letter S, the letter, T, the 
letter D, for example altogether instead of the word read. Not sure if you are 
all experienceing this as well but try flicking dow on an unread message just 
for fun, and when it says mark as read, double tap and take note of how it 
sounds. It doesn't matter what voice you use by the way I've used to them all 
in this test and can confirm it sounds very strange to hear, irdst at least 
this is the closest I could come to creating how it sounded to me, but anyway, 
just thought I'd let you know.

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RE: Re: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

[Jasmine Kotsay]

I also have this issue. It says "rod" or something.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 08:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

For me, there are no odd characters spoken, but it also does not say "read" but 
if unread it speaks unread.
 

   

   Richard, USA
   ——
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   (Sent from my iPhone)
  
On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:52 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
  

  

  I rebooted my phone. Not sure if you guys were able to get my audio 
demonstration but here it is.
  


  Voiceover Native Mail App Issue IOS17 Iphone 14.m4a 

  dropbox.com 

  


   

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




I use the "Mark as Read" option all the time and have no issues with it 
reading anything in a strange way.

Maybe try and reboot your phone.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles

Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:12 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered



Running IOS17 on the regular 14 model, when flicking down say from a message in 
a list of messages that are not unread will give you a choice of marking it as 
read as usually does, no problem there but when I for instance say activate 
that option, voiceover, instead doesn't read it as "read" instead it sounds 
like a few Consonants like the letter R, the letter S, the letter, T, the 
letter D, for example altogether instead of the word read. Not sure if you are 
all experienceing this as well but try flicking dow on an unread message just 
for fun, and when it says mark as read, double tap and take note of how it 
sounds. It doesn't matter what voice you use by the way I've used to them all 
in this test and can confirm it sounds very strange to hear, irdst at least 
this is the closest I could come to creating how it sounded to me, but anyway, 
just thought I'd let you know.

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RE: Re: navigating my Iphone with my braille display

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Please refresh my memory.   What is your url?



- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: 08/27/2023 05:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: navigating my Iphone with my braille display


I have a fairly complete list of braille commands on my website at work with 
most displays.
The one you want in particular is space with the letter, O to go on one page to 
the right and space  with the contraction OW to go one page to the left.

Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)
> On Aug 27, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Dacia Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have an Iphone 13 and a Braille Sense U2. How do I navigate between
> pages on my Iphone? When I try and swipe up once I'm at the end of
> page 1, it just keeps taking me to the spotlight area? I want to be
> able to get to apps on the other pages on my phone with my Braille
> Sense.
> Thanks,
> 
> Dacia
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RE: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Hi, Ivan,


I have known Richard Turner for many years; he is a person of the highest 
integrity.  His advice has been well reasoned and exemplary, so please refrain 
from attacking him; his experience is invaluable to many of us.

Dulce



- Original Message -
From: Ivan Icin 
Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2023 03:12 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

As you haven't dismissed anything that I've said I can tell only that it is 
even worse if you are not getting any money and you are doing that.
And just for the record you are the man that at the start told that 
60$/year will probably go lower over the time and now you are happy that it 
isn't 100$/year for everyone.
If you have any suggestions on how to improve my app and help people here I 
am open to that and I'll try to implement anything that can help people 
here (clearly some bigger request may take quite a time). Otherwise we have 
finished, I don't see any points in discussing this further.
On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:53:33 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:
> I do not get one penny from any apps.  I recommend Voice Dream Reader 
> because it is the best at this moment and has been for a long time.
>
>  
>
> I mention other apps and point out that each person has to decide which 
> app meets their needs.  I always have.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Richard, USA.
>
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
> it."  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
>  
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Ivan 
> Icin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 5, 2023 2:35 PM
> *To:* VIPhone 
> *Subject:* Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing
>
>  
>
> I must say I didn't expect that you will write something as this. Wow.
>
>  
>
> So your only argument is that I have made a spin that Voice Dream Reader 
> sells for 100$/year, while the reality is that they are selling only 
> sometimes at 100$ and mostly and 80$. Well that was a spin, but at the end 
> of the day it is not my fault that at the moment you need to write a book 
> to describe exact sales policy of Voice Dream Reader and I picked the price 
> that I prefer to say. Maybe you can ask your friend Winston on why he sold 
> Voice Dream to a company that is milking its users instead of blaming me?
>
>  
>
> Just for the record I did visit your website before. And you have never 
> ever recommended any competitor to Voice Dream Reader. Ever. Not even 
> mention in a bad way. And that seems to be for years. Should anyone believe 
> that it is a coincidence?
>
>  
>
> Again, I have put 10 years of work in this product. And you pretty much 
> question on whether it is worth of being installed for free while Winston's 
> 10 years are without any doubt worth 100$/year. I don't deny that in some 
> aspects Voice Dream may be better. But there are at least as many aspects 
> that Speech Central is better. Speech Central offers Microsoft neural 
> voices which are 10 years ahead of anything you have in Voice Dream. If you 
> are any kind of decent and honest expert you would put 5 minutes in setting 
> that up at least out of curiosity. If you are kind of decent and honest 
> expert you would say "I don't like this, can you fix it?". But you aren't. 
> You are just a salesman of Voice Dream, the app that asks 100$/year for 
> something that Speech Central offers for free.
>
>  
>
> Finally the main reason that you have dismissed my app is silly. You have 
> dismissed it because it doesn't announce the reading speed after changing 
> it! Many people prefer to be able to listen to the effect of the speed 
> change than to hear the voice that reads the speed and interferes with that 
> process. Another user here provided much more precise and valuable feedback 
> - the app doesn't provide any signal to VoiceOver users to speed changes 
> when it doesn't read. It is hard to imagine that this is worth 100$/year to 
> anyone, but it is a good observation and definitely a potential pain point. 
> I have fixed that today and it will be available in the next release. I 
> like people that provide constructive observations.
>
>  
>
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 6:09:15 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:
>
> I am truly sick of your BS!  If you think I have been only functioning as 
> a salesman for Voice Dream Reader you have read very few of my posts.
>
>  
>
> I recommend a ton of apps and give feedback on the ones I think are 
> valuable.  That is the main reason for my web site as well.
>
>  
>
> I'm also on many other lists because they are more responsibly moderated.
>
>  
>
> You would have to read my posts from other lists to truly know what you 
> are talking about.
>
>  
>
> When I check the current price of Voice Dream Reader it is roughly $80 per 
> year and not $100.  To assume from one post in a review that the price is 
> set at whatever that person 

RE: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[la...@comcast.net]

can they confuse us even more? I guess they haven't really tried. Give them 
time. 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Saturday, June 03, 2023 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS 
Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked 
directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as 
well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the 
app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but 
if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app 
store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.
 HTH,
 

 

   

   

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
   My web site: https://www.turner42.com
   

  
On Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
  

  

  
   Hi list,
   
   As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader 
Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the 
product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS 
Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and 
wanted to make others aware of it.
   
   Alan Lemly
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RE: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[la...@comcast.net]

strongly agree! 

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner 
Date: Saturday, June 03, 2023 01:31 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

Fortunately, the app icon on my phone still says, Voice Dream Reader. I hope 
that continues, as it's a much better name.
Best,
Anna

> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Richard, 
> 
> Thanks for those additional details about the new owners of Voice Dream 
> Reader also purchasing the name. I did not drill down further into the 
> developer name that is presented in the App Store. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech 
>> TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I 
>> checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. 
>> name as well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. 
>> However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader 
>> Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little 
>> further down in the app store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> "What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>>  
>>> As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader 
>>> Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the 
>>> product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS 
>>> Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and 
>>> wanted to make others aware of it.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly
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RE: RE: Victor Reader Stream

[khevener]

I have some 32 GB sd cards.  So, sounds like I will have to reformat them for 
the vs 3.  Can u tell me how to do that?  Thanks.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 1:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream

When you purchase Sd cards larger then 32 gigs, they are already formatted as 
x-fat, so the third gen stream can read them automatically.

On 6/1/23, kheve...@fuse.net  wrote:
> Does the vs3 automatically format in xfat?  Or, is 32fat more common?  
> Can computers running windows 10 read SD cards in either format?  
> Thanks Kitty
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 11:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>
> No Lana, it does not.  However, just remember, that your new SD card 
> in the third gen stream is in xfat format, while the SD card in a 
> second gen stream must be formatted as fat32.  If someone wanted to 
> use a large capacity SD card in both the second gen stream, or the 
> third gen stream, they must first make sure their SD card is formatted as 
> fat32.
>
> On 6/1/23, la...@comcast.net  wrote:
>> Does everyone mean that I have to take all those books I transferred 
>> to my new 256 card off the card, reformat it in my new Stream III, 
>> and then put them back. Will this really solve all these problems we 
>> are having?
>> I'm going to wait for more information before I take such drastic 
>> acts. Is there even a format command on the new Stream?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 08:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>>
>> I have a 128 SD card in my Victor Reader Stream 2. It serves me well.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>> There are devices which can only support cards up to a certain size.
>> Maybe that is the case with the VictorReader and you bought a card 
>> which is too large.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Robert Stigile
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream
>>
>> Hello all,
>> My wife has a victor reader 2.
>> Recently her sd card went bad so i bought a new one.
>> After formatting it I put all of her files and folders on it.
>> It says memory error 3 but everything looks fine when its in the 
>> computer.
>> Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the 
>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>> 818-381-9568
>> Kn6uvd
>>
>>
>>  On May 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Jennie Facer 
>> wrote:
>>  HI,
>>  
>>  ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT 
>> THE THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN'T HAD A 
>> TREK, SO CAN'T ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD 
>> STREAM, AND IT WORKS WELL MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT 
>> HASN'T CRASHED YET.
>>  
>>  JENN
>>  Jenn and Kumi
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  Hi, everyone,
>>  
>>  What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader 
>> Stream?  I believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
>>  
>>  Thanks.
>>  
>>  Esther
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Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream

[Joshua Hendrickson]

When you purchase Sd cards larger then 32 gigs, they are already
formatted as x-fat, so the third gen stream can read them
automatically.

On 6/1/23, kheve...@fuse.net  wrote:
> Does the vs3 automatically format in xfat?  Or, is 32fat more common?  Can
> computers running windows 10 read SD cards in either format?  Thanks
> Kitty
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 11:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>
> No Lana, it does not.  However, just remember, that your new SD card in the
> third gen stream is in xfat format, while the SD card in a second gen stream
> must be formatted as fat32.  If someone wanted to use a large capacity SD
> card in both the second gen stream, or the third gen stream, they must first
> make sure their SD card is formatted as fat32.
>
> On 6/1/23, la...@comcast.net  wrote:
>> Does everyone mean that I have to take all those books I transferred
>> to my new 256 card off the card, reformat it in my new Stream III, and
>> then put them back. Will this really solve all these problems we are
>> having?
>> I'm going to wait for more information before I take such drastic
>> acts. Is there even a format command on the new Stream?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 08:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>>
>> I have a 128 SD card in my Victor Reader Stream 2. It serves me well.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>> There are devices which can only support cards up to a certain size.
>> Maybe that is the case with the VictorReader and you bought a card
>> which is too large.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Robert Stigile
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream
>>
>> Hello all,
>> My wife has a victor reader 2.
>> Recently her sd card went bad so i bought a new one.
>> After formatting it I put all of her files and folders on it.
>> It says memory error 3 but everything looks fine when its in the
>> computer.
>> Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando
>> Valley Chapter
>> 818-381-9568
>> Kn6uvd
>>
>>
>>  On May 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Jennie Facer 
>> wrote:
>>  HI,
>>  
>>  ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT
>> THE THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN'T HAD A
>> TREK, SO CAN'T ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD
>> STREAM, AND IT WORKS WELL MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN'T
>> CRASHED YET.
>>  
>>  JENN
>>  Jenn and Kumi
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  Hi, everyone,
>>  
>>  What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader
>> Stream?  I believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
>>  
>>  Thanks.
>>  
>>  Esther
>>  Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
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RE: RE: Victor Reader Stream

[khevener]

Does the vs3 automatically format in xfat?  Or, is 32fat more common?  Can 
computers running windows 10 read SD cards in either format?  Thanks
Kitty

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream

No Lana, it does not.  However, just remember, that your new SD card in the 
third gen stream is in xfat format, while the SD card in a second gen stream 
must be formatted as fat32.  If someone wanted to use a large capacity SD card 
in both the second gen stream, or the third gen stream, they must first make 
sure their SD card is formatted as fat32.

On 6/1/23, la...@comcast.net  wrote:
> Does everyone mean that I have to take all those books I transferred 
> to my new 256 card off the card, reformat it in my new Stream III, and 
> then put them back. Will this really solve all these problems we are having?
> I'm going to wait for more information before I take such drastic 
> acts. Is there even a format command on the new Stream?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 08:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>
> I have a 128 SD card in my Victor Reader Stream 2. It serves me well.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
> There are devices which can only support cards up to a certain size. 
> Maybe that is the case with the VictorReader and you bought a card 
> which is too large.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Robert Stigile
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream
>
> Hello all,
> My wife has a victor reader 2.
> Recently her sd card went bad so i bought a new one.
> After formatting it I put all of her files and folders on it.
> It says memory error 3 but everything looks fine when its in the computer.
> Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando 
> Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
> Kn6uvd
>
>
>   On May 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Jennie Facer  
> wrote:
>   HI,
>   
>   ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT 
> THE THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN'T HAD A 
> TREK, SO CAN'T ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD 
> STREAM, AND IT WORKS WELL MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN'T 
> CRASHED YET.
>   
>   JENN
>   Jenn and Kumi
>   
>   
>   
>   On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale 
> 
> wrote:
>   
>   Hi, everyone,
>   
>   What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader 
> Stream?  I believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
>   
>   Thanks.
>   
>   Esther
>   Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
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RE: RE: Victor Reader Stream

[Carolyn Arnold]

If your SD card for your Stream is not formatted, it will give you problems, 
regardless of its size. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
la...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: Victor Reader Stream

Does everyone mean that I have to take all those books I transferred to my new 
256 card off the card, reformat it in my new Stream III, and then put them 
back. Will this really solve all these problems we are having? 
I'm going to wait for more information before I take such drastic acts. Is 
there even a format command on the new Stream? 

- Original Message -
From: Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 08:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream

I have a 128 SD card in my Victor Reader Stream 2. It serves me well. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
There are devices which can only support cards up to a certain size. Maybe that 
is the case with the VictorReader and you bought a card which is too large.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Stigile
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream
 
Hello all,
My wife has a victor reader 2.
Recently her sd card went bad so i bought a new one.
After formatting it I put all of her files and folders on it.
It says memory error 3 but everything looks fine when its in the computer.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley 
Chapter
818-381-9568
Kn6uvd


On May 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Jennie Facer  
wrote:
HI,
 
ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE 
THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN'T HAD A TREK, SO CAN'T 
ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD STREAM, AND IT WORKS WELL 
MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN'T CRASHED YET.
 
JENN
Jenn and Kumi   



On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale 
 wrote:
 
Hi, everyone,
 
What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader 
Stream?  I believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
 
Thanks.
 
Esther
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RE: Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream

[la...@comcast.net]

thanks. So far I've kept separate cards in separate machines. I do a lot of 
file copies, but that isn't what this is all about. 

- Original Message -
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 09:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream

No Lana, it does not.  However, just remember, that your new SD card
in the third gen stream is in xfat format, while the SD card in a
second gen stream must be formatted as fat32.  If someone wanted to
use a large capacity SD card in both the second gen stream, or the
third gen stream, they must first make sure their SD card is formatted
as fat32.
On 6/1/23, la...@comcast.net  wrote:
> Does everyone mean that I have to take all those books I transferred to my
> new 256 card off the card, reformat it in my new Stream III, and then put
> them back. Will this really solve all these problems we are having?
> I'm going to wait for more information before I take such drastic acts. Is
> there even a format command on the new Stream?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 08:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>
> I have a 128 SD card in my Victor Reader Stream 2. It serves me well.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
> There are devices which can only support cards up to a certain size. Maybe
> that is the case with the VictorReader and you bought a card which is too
> large.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Stigile
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream
>
> Hello all,
> My wife has a victor reader 2.
> Recently her sd card went bad so i bought a new one.
> After formatting it I put all of her files and folders on it.
> It says memory error 3 but everything looks fine when its in the computer.
> Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
> Kn6uvd
>
>
>   On May 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Jennie Facer  
> wrote:
>   HI,
>   
>   ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE
> THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN'T HAD A TREK, SO
> CAN'T ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD STREAM, AND IT
> WORKS WELL MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN'T CRASHED YET.
>   
>   JENN
>   Jenn and Kumi
>   
>   
>   
>   On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale 
> 
> wrote:
>   
>   Hi, everyone,
>   
>   What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader 
> Stream?  I
> believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
>   
>   Thanks.
>   
>   Esther
>   Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
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Re: RE: Victor Reader Stream

[Joshua Hendrickson]

No Lana, it does not.  However, just remember, that your new SD card
in the third gen stream is in xfat format, while the SD card in a
second gen stream must be formatted as fat32.  If someone wanted to
use a large capacity SD card in both the second gen stream, or the
third gen stream, they must first make sure their SD card is formatted
as fat32.

On 6/1/23, la...@comcast.net  wrote:
> Does everyone mean that I have to take all those books I transferred to my
> new 256 card off the card, reformat it in my new Stream III, and then put
> them back. Will this really solve all these problems we are having?
> I'm going to wait for more information before I take such drastic acts. Is
> there even a format command on the new Stream?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 08:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
>
> I have a 128 SD card in my Victor Reader Stream 2. It serves me well.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
> There are devices which can only support cards up to a certain size. Maybe
> that is the case with the VictorReader and you bought a card which is too
> large.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Stigile
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream
>
> Hello all,
> My wife has a victor reader 2.
> Recently her sd card went bad so i bought a new one.
> After formatting it I put all of her files and folders on it.
> It says memory error 3 but everything looks fine when its in the computer.
> Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
> Kn6uvd
>
>
>   On May 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Jennie Facer  
> wrote:
>   HI,
>   
>   ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE
> THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN'T HAD A TREK, SO
> CAN'T ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD STREAM, AND IT
> WORKS WELL MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN'T CRASHED YET.
>   
>   JENN
>   Jenn and Kumi
>   
>   
>   
>   On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale 
> 
> wrote:
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>   Hi, everyone,
>   
>   What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader 
> Stream?  I
> believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
>   
>   Thanks.
>   
>   Esther
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RE: RE: Victor Reader Stream

[la...@comcast.net]

Does everyone mean that I have to take all those books I transferred to my new 
256 card off the card, reformat it in my new Stream III, and then put them 
back. Will this really solve all these problems we are having? 
I'm going to wait for more information before I take such drastic acts. Is 
there even a format command on the new Stream? 

- Original Message -
From: Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, June 01, 2023 08:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream

I have a 128 SD card in my Victor Reader Stream 2. It serves me well. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream
There are devices which can only support cards up to a certain size. Maybe that 
is the case with the VictorReader and you bought a card which is too large.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Stigile
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream
 
Hello all,
My wife has a victor reader 2.
Recently her sd card went bad so i bought a new one.
After formatting it I put all of her files and folders on it.
It says memory error 3 but everything looks fine when its in the computer.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568
Kn6uvd


On May 30, 2023, at 5:04 AM, Jennie Facer  
wrote:
HI,
 
ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE 
THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN'T HAD A TREK, SO CAN'T 
ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD STREAM, AND IT WORKS WELL 
MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN'T CRASHED YET.
 
JENN
Jenn and Kumi   



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Hi, everyone,
 
What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader 
Stream?  I believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
 
Thanks.
 
Esther
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RE: Re: My iPhone starts playing music when the screen is locked and I'm not even in the same room, why?

[la...@comcast.net]

my TV has been doing that for more than a year. I have always had trouble with 
my remote. Since Comcast has something called Stream, which lets me get tv 
channels on my iPhone, I just ignored it., but every so often, it just turns 
on. It may be for thirty seconds or maybe longer till I turn it off, but then, 
a week or two later, it comes on again. 
Go figure. 

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Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 05:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My iPhone starts playing music when the screen is locked and I'm 
not even in the same room, why?

This situation occurred yesterday for me and I thought that it may
have been because I pressed my watch up against something to trigger
the music playing from my phone.
It seems like I did not and music started playing at random. I just
stopped the music from playing.

On 5/30/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I guess my subject line says it all. This is happened to me on several
> occasions. I can't have been playing a song, but close the music app and
> gone on to other things. It can happen when my phone is in one room and I am
> in another room and then I come back, and I hear music playing on my phone.
> It happens in no discernible pattern that I can figure out, but it has
> happened often enough where I know it can't possibly be a fluke. It never
> used to happen. I can't say exactly when it started, certainly sometime in
> the latest iOS cycle, 16. But it's only been in the last few months. Has
> anybody had this happen and if so, what did you do to fix it?
> Mary
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Re: RE : updated hot list

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RE: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[la...@comcast.net]

amazon prime is more than that., and you sometimes get free books. 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 06:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

If you break the price down, it is about $5.00 a month, or $1.15 per week. I 
think most people could give something up that would cover the cost. 


Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad that I won't have to pay for voice dream reader.  However,
> even if I did have to pay for the app, $59 per year is still a good
> price.  It is one of my most used apps on my iPhone.  I just added a
> ton of audio books to voice dream reader using iTunes.  I love being
> able to use a USBC to lightning cable.  The copy sppeeds that my
> zipped audio books copy over to my iPhone 13 pro max is incredibly
> fast.  It is great.
> 
>> On 4/25/23, William James  wrote:
>> Agreed.  I expected something like what NLS Bard has, your history, your
>> wishlist, ETC.  Nope, nada!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream
>>> Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app
>>> from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this
>>> one is a joke.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> "What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi 
 wrote:
 
 
 Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that
 is now free.
 
 I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free
 alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but
 there's also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has
 also just come out with their own reader which I'm sure will be better
 over time.
 
 JODY
 
 To Boldly Go  
 
 
 thunderwalker...@gmail.com
 
 "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
  Erik Weihenmayer
 
> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.
> 
> However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.
> 
> 
> 
> At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication
> that they might.
> 
> I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for
> some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is
> worth paying for.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> 
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
> Universe
> 
> 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Leo Bado
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
> 
> 
> 
> Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let's say that Applause
> wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still
> legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that
> already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Leo Bado
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
> 
> 
> 
> Yes.  Perfectly legal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> 
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
> Universe
> 
> 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Leo Bado
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
> 
> 
> 
> I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model
> for an app in the Appstore? In 

Re: re microsoft soundscape

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, everyone, I will have to try nearby explorer. It sounds interesting. 
Everyone have a good day. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Dec 29, 2022, at 2:50 PM, Thomas Frank  wrote:
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> Hopefully, other developers will pick up most of the features in Soundscape 
> and incorporate them into their own app like nearby explorer. In one way, 
> although discouraged in the short run, I believe this is better for the 
> industry so small developers with unique ideas will not be shut out by the 
> big boys.
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> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> that's really too bad because I found this app very helpful. I wonder why it 
>> is being discontinued? Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>> 
 On Dec 19, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Mo Khan  wrote:
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>>> the micro soft soundscape iOS app is being discontinued from January. 
>>> Current versions of the app that have been downloaded will be usable until 
>>> June 2023. Very surprised at this considering it seems to be a popular app 
>>> in the blind community.
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Re: re microsoft soundscape

[Thomas Frank]

Hopefully, other developers will pick up most of the features in Soundscape and 
incorporate them into their own app like nearby explorer. In one way, although 
discouraged in the short run, I believe this is better for the industry so 
small developers with unique ideas will not be shut out by the big boys.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Dec 19, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> that's really too bad because I found this app very helpful. I wonder why it 
> is being discontinued? Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Mo Khan  wrote:
>> 
>> the micro soft soundscape iOS app is being discontinued from January. 
>> Current versions of the app that have been downloaded will be usable until 
>> June 2023. Very surprised at this considering it seems to be a popular app 
>> in the blind community.
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Re: re microsoft soundscape

[Esther Levegnale]

that's really too bad because I found this app very helpful. I wonder why it is 
being discontinued? Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Dec 19, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Mo Khan  wrote:
> 
> 
> the micro soft soundscape iOS app is being discontinued from January. Current 
> versions of the app that have been downloaded will be usable until June 2023. 
> Very surprised at this considering it seems to be a popular app in the blind 
> community.
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RE: Re: Low List Traffic?

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Yes, I am.


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> I get probably a minimum of five posts a day.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> I'm not seeing very many posts.
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RE: Re: Low List Traffic?

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

I am.

Yes

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Date: 12/11/2022 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Low List Traffic?

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> I get probably a minimum of five posts a day.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[la...@comcast.net]

If I understand this,  you still need a TV? My cable company has something 
called Stream. I can get all the television I want using my iPhone. Since 
something has gone wrong between my router, my TV, and its remote, and since it 
takes from ten to fifteen seconds for the sound to come up for me to know if 
the TV is on, I like this choice, but would prefer something which could be 
used even if I leave Comcast. 

- Original Message -
From: Matthew Bullis 
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2022 03:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
don't have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external 
speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Matthew

On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn't understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don't believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
> 
> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
> 
> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
> Smart TV in our living room...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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> -Original Message-
> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
> to a soundbar?
> 
> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
> 
> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
> display device..
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gary
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RE: Re: Quickly switching between Degrees F And C?

[la...@comcast.net]

This is very interesting and handy. 

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From: Bill Gallik 
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 07:18 AM
To: "viPhone " 
Subject: Re: Quickly switching between Degrees F And C?

> Gerardo et al,
I have a buddy in Canada with whom I often share weather information.  As a 
result, I've learned to,, for all intents and purposes, to convert literally on 
the fly.  I find it much easier to have the weather app report in Celsius and 
convert to Fahrenheit by using Siri to multiply the Celsius by 1.8 and then add 
32 to the result.  I know it seems a bit overwhelming at first blush, but as 
you do this repetitively, you will find that you'll find yourself doing the 
math in your head faster than asking Siri.
Another quick translation method is to keep inm mind that every 5 degrees in C 
increases the Fahrenheit temp by 9 degrees as follows:
0C = 32F
5C = 41F
10C = 50F
15C = 59F
20C = 68F
25C = 77F
30C = 86f
35C = 95F
etc.
Good Luck.
Wouldn't it be nice if a weather app offered to report temps in both celsius 
and Fahrenheit together?

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Apart from wishing you'll an awesome start of another Wednesday, aside 
> Google, do you guys know of a Weather app, in which I could quickly switch 
> between Degrees C And F? Thanks for any info.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[la...@comcast.net]

That part I got. Thanks. 

- Original Message -
From: CHELA Robles 
Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 07:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

Lana, Richard was saying that audiovault has only the audio with audio 
description, not the video. It's a resource he gets audio descriptive content 
from similar to Blind Mice Mega Mall's Movie Vault. Similar to Sero app for 
iPhone.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 19, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Lana  wrote:
> 
> Are you saying that the episodes come with video only? No dialogue or music, 
> or sound effects? or anything? That doesn't make sense, even for a sighted 
> viewer.
> 
>> On 10/18/2022 11:03 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, a list member who is also a Star Trek fan, just purchased Picard, 
>> Season 1, from the iTunes store.  He plans to buy season 2, also, from 
>> iTunes.
>> 
>> He informed me that the audio track is not included in the purchase.
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
>> I am so surprised given that the audio track is included on Amazon Prime 
>> Video.
>> 
>> Given that the show was produced at the Amazon Studios, I guess I should not 
>> be too surprised, at that.
>> 
>> Like all of my other television series purchases from iTunes, I probably 
>> wouldn't let the lack of an audio track stop me from purchasing the show but 
>> if I can get the same episodes, at the same price, with audio description 
>> from Amazon Prime Video, then so be it.
>> 
>> Well, off to the Amazon Prime Video Store, I go.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
>> 
>> I have not purchased that series. I did listen to season one from 
>> audiovault.net which of course is just the audio file, no Pictures.
>> I have a few movies from iTunes that have audio description.
>> Perhaps this is one where you need to ask Apple directly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> "What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an audio
>> description track.
>> 
>> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
>> have access to that audio track.
>> 
>> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, Picard,
>> also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is released in
>> February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the iTunes store, as
>> well.
>> 
>> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from the
>> iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
>> 
>> Why am I asking when I can simply buy a season and discover the answer for
>> myself?
>> 
>> Since I plan on buying Star Trek, Picard, normally, I would simply buy the
>> first season and hope for the best.  However, in this instance, the series
>> is also being sold in the Amazon Prime Video store. And, unlike the product
>> description in iTunes, Amazon Prime Video clearly labels the series as
>> having an audio track included with purchase.
>> 
>> While I have purchased several items from the Amazon Prime Video Store,
>> given a choice, I prefer to purchase my video content from the iTunes Store,
>> if possible.
>> 
>> So, in short, I was just curious if anyone had purchased the show from
>> iTunes and if the audio description track had been included with the
>> purchase.
>> 
>> All replies appreciated,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: RE: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[la...@comcast.net]

Thanks. I should have figured that out, but wasn't sure. 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 08:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

Lana,
Mark was saying the videos do not include the Audio Description track, but he 
failed to use the word "description" in his statement.
Yes, they have the full audio and sound effects, minus the description track 
for the blind.
Apparently, if you want to buy the video, with full audio including audio 
description, you need to buy it through Prime.
I personally am fine with just the free MP3 with no video but all the sounds 
plus audio description.  My wife who is sighted, isn't a big fan of Sci-Fi.


Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lana
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; M. Taylor 
Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
Are you saying that the episodes come with video only? No dialogue or music, or 
sound effects? or anything? That doesn't make sense, even for a sighted viewer.
On 10/18/2022 11:03 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Well, a list member who is also a Star Trek fan, just purchased Picard, 
> Season 1, from the iTunes store.  He plans to buy season 2, also, from iTunes.
>
> He informed me that the audio track is not included in the purchase.
>
> Wow!
>
> I am so surprised given that the audio track is included on Amazon Prime 
> Video.
>
> Given that the show was produced at the Amazon Studios, I guess I should not 
> be too surprised, at that.
>
> Like all of my other television series purchases from iTunes, I probably 
> wouldn't let the lack of an audio track stop me from purchasing the show but 
> if I can get the same episodes, at the same price, with audio description 
> from Amazon Prime Video, then so be it.
>
> Well, off to the Amazon Prime Video Store, I go.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
>
> I have not purchased that series. I did listen to season one from 
> audiovault.net which of course is just the audio file, no Pictures.
> I have a few movies from iTunes that have audio description.
> Perhaps this is one where you need to ask Apple directly.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> "What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ 
> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an 
> audio description track.
>
> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
> have access to that audio track.
>
> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, 
> Picard, also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is 
> released in February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the 
> iTunes store, as well.
>
> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from 
> the iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
>
> Why am I asking when I can simply buy a season and discover the answer 
> for myself?
>
> Since I plan on buying Star Trek, Picard, normally, I would simply buy 
> the first season and hope for the best.  However, in this instance, 
> the series is also being sold in the Amazon Prime Video store. And, 
> unlike the product description in iTunes, Amazon Prime Video clearly 
> labels the series as having an audio track included with purchase.
>
> While I have purchased several items from the Amazon Prime Video 
> Store, given a choice, I prefer to purchase my video content from the 
> iTunes Store, if possible.
>
> So, in short, I was just curious if anyone had purchased the show from 
> iTunes and if the audio description track had been included with the 
> purchase.
>
> All replies appreciated,
>
> Mark
>
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RE: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

I've sorted this, so thanks very much as I wouldn't have thought to look there 
to sort the problem out.
Alison


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Sent: 26 September 2022 20:56
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Subject: RE: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

Many thanks for this suggestion. I'll certainly give it a try.
Alison


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Subject: RE: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

That's a good thing to know. I didn't realize it either. Thanks. 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Date: Monday, September 26, 2022 10:43 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

I assume you are talking about the Audible app on your iPhone and not the 
Audible website?
If so why don't you just open the Audible app, tap on the "Profile" tab at the 
bottom right of the screen, then select Settings > Data and Storage and under 
the "Download by parts" heading select "Single Part" instead of "Multi Part".
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MAY
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone Recently many of the books 
I am putting in my Audible Wish List are in more than one part. 
So, I go to my library, double tap on the book I want which then presents a new 
page with a done button at the top and below this select and below that, the 
book title part 1 and below that the book title part 2.
And now my problems start. I double tap on the title part 1 but nothing 
happens. If I go back to the done button it says nothing is selected.
What am I doing wrong?
Alison

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RE: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

Many thanks for this suggestion. I'll certainly give it a try.
Alison


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

That's a good thing to know. I didn't realize it either. Thanks. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Date: Monday, September 26, 2022 10:43 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

I assume you are talking about the Audible app on your iPhone and not the 
Audible website?
If so why don't you just open the Audible app, tap on the "Profile" tab at the 
bottom right of the screen, then select Settings > Data and Storage and under 
the "Download by parts" heading select "Single Part" instead of "Multi Part".
-Original Message-
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MAY
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone Recently many of the books 
I am putting in my Audible Wish List are in more than one part. 
So, I go to my library, double tap on the book I want which then presents a new 
page with a done button at the top and below this select and below that, the 
book title part 1 and below that the book title part 2.
And now my problems start. I double tap on the title part 1 but nothing 
happens. If I go back to the done button it says nothing is selected.
What am I doing wrong?
Alison

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RE: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

[la...@comcast.net]

That's a good thing to know. I didn't realize it either. Thanks. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Date: Monday, September 26, 2022 10:43 AM
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone

I assume you are talking about the Audible app on your iPhone and not the 
Audible website?
If so why don't you just open the Audible app, tap on the "Profile" tab at the 
bottom right of the screen, then select Settings > Data and Storage and under 
the "Download by parts" heading select "Single Part" instead of "Multi Part".
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading Audible books using the iPhone
Recently many of the books I am putting in my Audible Wish List are in more 
than one part. 
So, I go to my library, double tap on the book I want which then presents a new 
page with a done button at the top and below this select and below that, the 
book title part 1 and below that the book title part 2.
And now my problems start. I double tap on the title part 1 but nothing 
happens. If I go back to the done button it says nothing is selected.
What am I doing wrong?
Alison

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RE: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure

[Ann Byrne]

A great thing about the qardio is that it tracks 
your blood pressure and you can send the data to 
yourself to keep or to another person.  before I 
go to the doc I print the last six months of readings so he can see the trends.

At 07:59 PM 9/15/2022, you wrote:

An app? Whatever happened to medical privacy?


- Original Message -
From: Maria Heinrichs 
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 06:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com;Louise Peyton 
Subject: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure


Are you kidding me I'd love that! Seriously I'd love that! Have you ever
experienced a blood pressure cuff that squeezed again before it had even
completely let up because there was an error like you had it too low on
your arm or something? That's happened to me numerous times, but the
last time it did that, it squeezed so hard and it seemed to take a long
time before it stopped, and I don't think it's considered claustrophobia
because when you're claustrophobic, you feel scared in a confined space,
but I felt like I would never get my arm out ever again. I got so scared
my mom had to come over and press on the power button I guess it is, so
the air would go out and the cuff would let up. If there would be an
app, that would be fantastic! Please, let me know! Thanks.
Maria On 9/15/2022 6:43 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
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> Hello, all:
>
> Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood
> pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not
> as accurate as my primary care doctor's whose monitor doesn't speak
> audibly. This is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.
>
> The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just
> use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Louise
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RE: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is no way to measure blood pressure without a cuff which inflates. OK, 
maybe if you were hooked up on life support or something like that it might be 
possible, but there is a reason why at doctors offices and even in hospitals 
they use this method.

Having said this, there is the Qardio Arm which is a wireless cuff which 
connects to your iPhone via Bluetooth and you can then use the Qardio app to 
start the process and read the results, but it will still inflate and put 
pressure on  your upper arm.


Best regards,
Sieghard



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An app? Whatever happened to medical privacy? 


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From: Maria Heinrichs 
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 06:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com;Louise Peyton 
Subject: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure


Are you kidding me I'd love that! Seriously I'd love that! Have you ever 
experienced a blood pressure cuff that squeezed again before it had even 
completely let up because there was an error like you had it too low on your 
arm or something? That's happened to me numerous times, but the last time it 
did that, it squeezed so hard and it seemed to take a long time before it 
stopped, and I don't think it's considered claustrophobia because when you're 
claustrophobic, you feel scared in a confined space, but I felt like I would 
never get my arm out ever again. I got so scared my mom had to come over and 
press on the power button I guess it is, so the air would go out and the cuff 
would let up. If there would be an app, that would be fantastic! Please, let me 
know! Thanks.
Maria On 9/15/2022 6:43 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
>
> Hello, all:
>
> Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood 
> pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not 
> as accurate as my primary care doctor's whose monitor doesn't speak 
> audibly. This is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.
>
> The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just 
> use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Louise
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RE: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure

[la...@comcast.net]

An app? Whatever happened to medical privacy? 


- Original Message -
From: Maria Heinrichs 
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 06:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com;Louise Peyton 
Subject: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure


Are you kidding me I'd love that! Seriously I'd love that! Have you ever 
experienced a blood pressure cuff that squeezed again before it had even 
completely let up because there was an error like you had it too low on 
your arm or something? That's happened to me numerous times, but the 
last time it did that, it squeezed so hard and it seemed to take a long 
time before it stopped, and I don't think it's considered claustrophobia 
because when you're claustrophobic, you feel scared in a confined space, 
but I felt like I would never get my arm out ever again. I got so scared 
my mom had to come over and press on the power button I guess it is, so 
the air would go out and the cuff would let up. If there would be an 
app, that would be fantastic! Please, let me know! Thanks.
Maria On 9/15/2022 6:43 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
>
> Hello, all:
>
> Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood 
> pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not 
> as accurate as my primary care doctor's whose monitor doesn't speak 
> audibly. This is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.
>
> The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just 
> use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Louise
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RE: Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that you're getting rid of?

[Christopher Chaltain]

You can do this on an Android phone, or at least you could, but I don't see how 
this would be possible on an iPhone. I think the developers can give you the 
option of storing things in iCloud, so they would be backed up and then could 
be restored. I guess they could also make storing your books on one of the 
cloud storage options, like One Drive or ... they could also making streaming 
an option, so you'd have access to them as long as they're in the BARD system. 
Streaming would also allow you to keep your place in a book from device to 
device.

Although I get why people might want to download and keep their books on the 
phone, this isn't anything I would want. I don't need my books around forever 
once I've read them, and I don't have a problem redownloading books I want to 
read again. I do have a few reference books I keep on my phone, but like I 
said, I'm OK with redownloading these whenever I get a new phone. Like I said, 
this just works for me.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
la...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that you're 
getting rid of?

My bad memory. Sorry. 

- Original Message -
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Tuesday, August 02, 2022 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that you're 
getting rid of?

Lana.  I just did a phone to phone transfer from an iPhone 8 to my new
13 pro max.  My audible and bookshare books from voice dream reader transferred 
over to my new phone just fine, but not my bard books.
On 8/2/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Lana,
>
> This is the first time I have ever heard of this.
> How long ago was this?
>
> What store was it?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
> thought which they seldom use." - Søren Kierkegaard
>
> My web site: 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C137a50d5578340ad6cb508da74aab6dd
> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637950573807800858%7CUnk
> nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw
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> 礪
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lana
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 9:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Alan Lemly 
> Subject: Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that 
> you're getting rid of?
>
> There must be. Last time I got a new phone at the store, they weren't 
> thrilled to do it, but they copied all my bard, audible, and bookshare 
> books on to the new phone. Don't know how they did it, but they did.
>
> On 8/2/2022 8:21 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> Steve,
>>
>> Yes, we're sure you cannot transfer downloaded BARD content from an 
>> old to a new iDevice. Accessing previously downloaded content is the 
>> best way to refresh memory on what might have been on the old device 
>> but the content has to be downloaded again.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you sure about that? Can't you transfer them to the new handset 
>>> like you would transfer everything else?
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 7/28/2022 11:37 PM, Shai wrote:
>>>> Hello Mary,
>>>> No, unfortunately one is not able to back up the Bard books for 
>>>> retrieval on a new device; they would have to be downloaded again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/28/22, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> I feel pretty certain that the answer to this question is no, but 
>>>>> I'm asking for a friend who has an iPhone 8 and is about to 
>>>>> upgrade to a 14 Pro, I mean a 13 Pro. Anyway, he says he has 200 
>>>>> bard books on his iPhone 8. Is there anyway to back up that so 
>>>>> that he can get it on his new phone that he will be getting in a 
>>>>> couple of weeks? I don't think so, but I'm hoping I'm wrong and 
>>>>> that somebody will have an answer.
>>>>> Mary
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RE: Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that you're getting rid of?

[la...@comcast.net]

My bad memory. Sorry. 

- Original Message -
From: Joshua Hendrickson 
Date: Tuesday, August 02, 2022 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that you're 
getting rid of?

Lana.  I just did a phone to phone transfer from an iPhone 8 to my new
13 pro max.  My audible and bookshare books from voice dream reader
transferred over to my new phone just fine, but not my bard books.
On 8/2/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Lana,
>
> This is the first time I have ever heard of this.
> How long ago was this?
>
> What store was it?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
> thought which they seldom use." - Søren Kierkegaard
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lana
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 9:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Alan Lemly 
> Subject: Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that you're
> getting rid of?
>
> There must be. Last time I got a new phone at the store, they weren't
> thrilled to do it, but they copied all my bard, audible, and bookshare books
> on to the new phone. Don't know how they did it, but they did.
>
> On 8/2/2022 8:21 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> Steve,
>>
>> Yes, we're sure you cannot transfer downloaded BARD content from an old to
>> a new iDevice. Accessing previously downloaded content is the best way to
>> refresh memory on what might have been on the old device but the content
>> has to be downloaded again.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you sure about that? Can't you transfer them to the new handset like
>>> you would transfer everything else?
>>>
>>>
 On 7/28/2022 11:37 PM, Shai wrote:
 Hello Mary,
 No, unfortunately one is not able to back up the Bard books for
 retrieval on a new device; they would have to be downloaded again.


> On 7/28/22, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I feel pretty certain that the answer to this question is no, but
> I'm asking for a friend who has an iPhone 8 and is about to upgrade
> to a 14 Pro, I mean a 13 Pro. Anyway, he says he has 200 bard books
> on his iPhone 8. Is there anyway to back up that so that he can get
> it on his new phone that he will be getting in a couple of weeks? I
> don't think so, but I'm hoping I'm wrong and that somebody will have an
> answer.
> Mary
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RE: RE: Accessible Skip-Bo, Rummy, Uno, and Solitaire Games

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Thank you! 
I have this one, I believe. I appreciate it, though. I'm looking for more of a 
regular solitaire. 

- Original Message -
From: Paula Jordan 
Date: Thursday, July 21, 2022 05:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible Skip-Bo, Rummy, Uno, and Solitaire Games

And well worth the 99 cents.  I play it almost everyday.  Furthermore, when I 
visit my grandson he and I can play against each other.  We're about 50 50 in 
the win column.  Fun!
God bless!
Paula and the pups
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible Skip-Bo, Rummy, Uno, and Solitaire Games
 
I like King's Corner. It is a solitaire game.
You can look up the rules on Wikipedia if you don't know it. The basics are 
with this accessible version, you double tap and hold on the card you want to 
move and slide it to the place you want to drop it and lift your finger.
Kings go in the corners, and you build down from their with alternating suits, 
as well as building down on the 4 cards in the middle of the sides.
Here is the link. I think it may be 99¢.
 
 
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kings-corner/id414361524
 
 
 
Richard
"What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 


On Jul 21, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Jasmine Kotsay mailto:jasmine.kot...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hi, 
I'm looking for any ideas of accessible solitaire, rummy, uno, and Skip-bo 
games that are not blindfold games. I love this series, but want something 
different. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 
Sincerely, 
Jasmine 
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Re: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Joseph Hudson]

 
 Well this is correct, both T-Mobile and spectrum throttle you after 22 gigs.--Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail.On 7/13/22, 5:04 PM Kevin Minor  wrote:

  Hi.
   
   The term unlimited can be misleading. What I've found that the data is unlimited, but the speed you get it is throttled back if you go above a certain amount. I think Strait Talk gives you full speed up to 25 gigs of data, then they cut back the bandwidth a lot. I have what Spectrum calls unlimited data, and it does have a maximum amount.
   
   Just letting you know.
   
   Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
   
   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet gross
   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:49 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
   
   Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
   $35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the $35.00? 
   
   Janet 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
   
   $35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees and anything else they can think of to add. 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Nead
   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
   
   I just went to T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two services. 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
   
   That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the time being. 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph.hud...@techie.com
   Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
   
   Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they have top-notch customer service for both ends.
   
   Sent using the mobile mail app
   
   On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:
   
   > I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the change and keep my phone number. 
   > 
   > -Original Message-
   > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
   > Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
   > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
   > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   > Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
   > 
   > Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
   > 
   > -Original Message-
   > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
   > joseph.hud...@techie.com
   > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
   > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   > Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
   > 
   > Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
   > 
   > Sent using the mobile mail app
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   > On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
   > 
   > > Hello Everyone,
   > >
   > > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
   > > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
   > >
   > > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
   > > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
   > >
   > > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Carolyn]

I prefer and have wireless billing. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I am pretty sure that pay in advance, but to get that price, have to have 
wireless billing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Also, Kenny, is yours a pre or post paid plan? It would not matter to me either 
way. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wirele

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[janet gross]

Kenny, 
Thank you for letting me know this, as this answers my question.  So, that 
isn't a bad deal for two lines, meaning $35.00 for each line.  Matter of fact, 
the rep who I talked to asked me if you were talking about the plan for two 
lines, but I didn't know that at the time.  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

We have two lines on the plan, and so it is 70 for the both of them, it is not 
70  dollars unless you do the wireless billing. You may have to go into the 
store, and talk to them. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Kenny, 
I searched on line, and I couldn't find  any $35.00 phone plan for one line.  
So, I called T-Mobile, and spent  20 minutes on the phone with them as they 
were searching on line, but they said they have no phone plan unlimited text, 
calling, data for $35.00.  Do you have one line or two lines on the $35.00 plan 
you just got from T-Mobile? In the $35.00 plan, is that with taxes? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes, in Missouri.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Kenny, 
Are you in the United States? 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes it is true, you should go into a store, and ask them to go over your plan, 
I can't have Spectrum, and had trouble with Verizon, and AT, and T, so thought 
I would try out T Mobile, so far, so good, it is there cheapest plan for 
unlimited, but it works great for me.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and k

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

We have two lines on the plan, and so it is 70 for the both of them, it is not 
70  dollars unless you do the wireless billing. You may have to go into the 
store, and talk to them. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Kenny, 
I searched on line, and I couldn't find  any $35.00 phone plan for one line.  
So, I called T-Mobile, and spent  20 minutes on the phone with them as they 
were searching on line, but they said they have no phone plan unlimited text, 
calling, data for $35.00.  Do you have one line or two lines on the $35.00 plan 
you just got from T-Mobile? In the $35.00 plan, is that with taxes? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes, in Missouri.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Kenny, 
Are you in the United States? 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes it is true, you should go into a store, and ask them to go over your plan, 
I can't have Spectrum, and had trouble with Verizon, and AT, and T, so thought 
I would try out T Mobile, so far, so good, it is there cheapest plan for 
unlimited, but it works great for me.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@tech

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[janet gross]

Kenny, 
I searched on line, and I couldn't find  any $35.00 phone plan for one line.  
So, I called T-Mobile, and spent  20 minutes on the phone with them as they 
were searching on line, but they said they have no phone plan unlimited text, 
calling, data for $35.00.  Do you have one line or two lines on the $35.00 plan 
you just got from T-Mobile? In the $35.00 plan, is that with taxes? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes, in Missouri.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Kenny, 
Are you in the United States? 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes it is true, you should go into a store, and ask them to go over your plan, 
I can't have Spectrum, and had trouble with Verizon, and AT, and T, so thought 
I would try out T Mobile, so far, so good, it is there cheapest plan for 
unlimited, but it works great for me.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you t

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

I am pretty sure that pay in advance, but to get that price, have to have 
wireless billing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Also, Kenny, is yours a pre or post paid plan? It would not matter to me either 
way. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans a

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

T Mobile, and customer service seems to lots better since T Mobile took over 
Sprint.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Who is your plan with? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I had no extr fees, and no tax on that, that is the full price, and have no 
trouble, and am still using iphone 8

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> &g

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Carolyn]

Also, Kenny, is yours a pre or post paid plan? It would not matter to me either 
way. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if y

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

Yes, in Missouri.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Kenny, 
Are you in the United States? 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes it is true, you should go into a store, and ask them to go over your plan, 
I can't have Spectrum, and had trouble with Verizon, and AT, and T, so thought 
I would try out T Mobile, so far, so good, it is there cheapest plan for 
unlimited, but it works great for me.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I 

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Carolyn]

Who is your plan with? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I had no extr fees, and no tax on that, that is the full price, and have no 
trouble, and am still using iphone 8

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be cert

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

You are correct, you get the faster speed for so much, then it does slow down 
some, but had no trouble with that.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi.

The term unlimited can be misleading. What I've found that the data is 
unlimited, but the speed you get it is throttled back if you go above a certain 
amount. I think Strait Talk gives you full speed up to 25 gigs of data, then 
they cut back the bandwidth a lot. I have what Spectrum calls unlimited data, 
and it does have a maximum amount.

Just letting you know.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either 

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[janet gross]

Kenny, 
Are you in the United States? 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Yes it is true, you should go into a store, and ask them to go over your plan, 
I can't have Spectrum, and had trouble with Verizon, and AT, and T, so thought 
I would try out T Mobile, so far, so good, it is there cheapest plan for 
unlimited, but it works great for me.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and 

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

The term unlimited can be misleading. What I've found that the data is 
unlimited, but the speed you get it is throttled back if you go above a certain 
amount. I think Strait Talk gives you full speed up to 25 gigs of data, then 
they cut back the bandwidth a lot. I have what Spectrum calls unlimited data, 
and it does have a maximum amount.

Just letting you know.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> &

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

Yes it is true, you should go into a store, and ask them to go over your plan, 
I can't have Spectrum, and had trouble with Verizon, and AT, and T, so thought 
I would try out T Mobile, so far, so good, it is there cheapest plan for 
unlimited, but it works great for me.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hello Carolyn and Kenny,
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained 

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[janet gross]

Hello Carolyn and Kenny, 
$35 sounds fine to me, but can I ask you Kenny, am I understanding you right 
when you say you are getting unlimited services from T-Mobile for $35.00 a 
month? I have been getting unlimited phone services from T-Mobile for $50.00, 
this is the reason why I am asking you if I am understanding you regarding the 
$35.00? 

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that's the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don't know who you'll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > a corporate store and not merely a 

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

I had no extr fees, and no tax on that, that is the full price, and have no 
trouble, and am still using iphone 8

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > in the United States 

RE: RE: Blind and quadriplegic

[Carolyn]

Oh yes, Joseph, I realize that and have concern for her situation. 
Nevertheless, as I understand it, it is either one or the other, not both. I 
hope someone can correct me, if I'm wrong. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: Blind and quadriplegic

Hi Carolyn, actually, if she can’t see the screen, she needs VoiceOver and 
voice control.

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On 7/13/22 at 9:58 AM, Carolyn wrote:

> I think one either has to have Voiceover or Voice Control. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> chaim biberfeld
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind and quadriplegic
> 
> Sorry to bother you all, another question. My sister has MS and is totally 
> blind and quadriplegic. She can only speak. I have tried to help her use her 
> iPhone with VoiceOver, but when I try to use voice control with VoiceOver, 
> the entire thing gets discombobulated. Is it possible to use voice control 
> with voice over or not? 
> 
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349  
> 
> thegototherapist.com 
> 
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RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Carolyn]

$35 sounds good; AT offered me $50. Of course, then, there are taxes and fees 
and anything else they can think of to add. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny Nead
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > in the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
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> >
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Re: RE: Blind and quadriplegic

[joseph . hudson]

Hi Carolyn, actually, if she can’t see the screen, she needs VoiceOver and 
voice control.

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On 7/13/22 at 9:58 AM, Carolyn wrote:

> I think one either has to have Voiceover or Voice Control. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> chaim biberfeld
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind and quadriplegic
> 
> Sorry to bother you all, another question. My sister has MS and is totally 
> blind and quadriplegic. She can only speak. I have tried to help her use her 
> iPhone with VoiceOver, but when I try to use voice control with VoiceOver, 
> the entire thing gets discombobulated. Is it possible to use voice control 
> with voice over or not? 
> 
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349  
> 
> thegototherapist.com 
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Re: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[joseph . hudson]

Hi Kenny well good luck. That’s the company that told me, that I had too old of 
an antenna in my phone. So don’t expect that good service to last very long.
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On 7/13/22 at 10:03 AM, Kenny Nead wrote:

> I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
> everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had 
> no problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
> services.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for 
> the time being. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone 
> offered to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the 
> store I opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having 
> them mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you 
> go to your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And 
> they have top-notch customer service for both ends.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> 
> > I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make 
> > the change and keep my phone number. 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> > 
> > Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > joseph.hud...@techie.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> > 
> > Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> > both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy 
> > spectrum customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me 
> > unlimited data and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in 
> > your area, I definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> > 
> > Sent using the mobile mail app
> > 
> > On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> > >
> > > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> > >
> > > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> > >
> > > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > > the plans I already have.
> > >
> > > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > > about
> > > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> > >
> > > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > > from making a change or two.
> > >
> > > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > > when dealing with wireless providers:
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> > >
> > > 2.
> > > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > > in the United States or Canada.

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Kenny Nead]

I just went to   T Mobile, left AT and T and getting my unlimited plan for 
everything for 35 dollars. The customer service has been very good, and had no 
problem with dropped called, can not tell any difference between the two 
services.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

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On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > in the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> > at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
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RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Carolyn]

Goodness, Sarai, I would be frustrated indeed about that. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Just don't do an eSim! I lost the entire phone on a reset. Yes I told it to 
keep plan. It didn't.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > in the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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> >
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RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[Carolyn]

That sounds good. I did get a little reduction on my current phone plan for the 
time being. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > in the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
> > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >
> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
> > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
> > at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
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Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[joseph . hudson]

I found that out to a friend before I hit switch to them which is honestly 
pretty cool. Just another reason why I did it. I always wanted to try Verizon, 
but didn’t wanna be on the prepaid side of things. And didn’t wanna pay their 
outrageous prices unless I really really had to. Whenever I went to the mall to 
get my girlfriends phone, we got approached by them, and I told them no. 
Because of their high prices. And I also found out that they were one of The 
private dealers as well. They weren’t an actual Verizon store.
Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 4:46 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I have Spectrum mobile, and I'm happy with it. Something I learned that, at 
> least for me, Spectrum uses Verizon for its mobile network.
> 
> Just something to know.
> 
> Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T & 
> > T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now offering 
> > products with many more features and at a lower cost than the plans I 
> > already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be about 
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following when 
> > dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is a 
> > corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located in 
> > the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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Re: RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[joseph . hudson]

Water avoid that problem, make sure you have a current back up. For instance, I 
went through something that you did. And I’ve definitely learned from it. I 
reset an old iPad, so that I could have a accessible point of restoring my 
grandma‘s data. For her new phone. But I forgot to back up my data. So I 
definitely know what you mean I was screwed. But I haven’t skipped a beat 
cents. And actually doing the transfer from consumer cellular to spectrum, was 
a breeze other than consumer taking their sweet time to release the numbers. 
And I have never had to reset a phone just so I could switch carriers.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 7:00 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just don't do an eSim! I lost the entire phone on a reset. Yes I told it to 
> keep plan. It didn't.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 6:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone 
> offered to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the 
> store I opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having 
> them mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you 
> go to your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And 
> they have top-notch customer service for both ends.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> 
> > I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make 
> > the change and keep my phone number. 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> > 
> > Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > joseph.hud...@techie.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> > 
> > Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> > both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy 
> > spectrum customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me 
> > unlimited data and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in 
> > your area, I definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> > 
> > Sent using the mobile mail app
> > 
> > On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> > >
> > > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> > >
> > > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> > >
> > > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > > the plans I already have.
> > >
> > > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > > about
> > > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> > >
> > > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > > from making a change or two.
> > >
> > > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > > when dealing with wireless providers:
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> > >
> > > 2.
> > > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > > in the United States or Canada.
> > >
> > > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > &

RE: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Just don't do an eSim! I lost the entire phone on a reset. Yes I told it to 
keep plan. It didn't.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T 
> > & T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now 
> > offering products with many more features and at a lower cost than 
> > the plans I already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be 
> > about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following 
> > when dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is 
> > a corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located 
> > in the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
> > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >
> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
> > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
> > at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
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> >
> 

Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[joseph . hudson]

Hi Carolyn, that’s the way I did this last one. The lady over the phone offered 
to do everything for me. But since I only lived 3 miles away from the store I 
opted to just go to the store and grab my Sim cards instead of having them 
mailed to me. I don’t know who you’ll be able to switch to come when you go to 
your new place. But the deal that I have is actually fairly sweet. And they 
have top-notch customer service for both ends.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/12/22 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> I need to go to a store, so that someone can do whatever they do to make the 
> change and keep my phone number. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T & 
> > T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now offering 
> > products with many more features and at a lower cost than the plans I 
> > already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be about
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following when 
> > dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is a 
> > corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located in 
> > the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> > caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
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Re: RE: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan

[joseph . hudson]

Well, for somebody who just went on vacation in June, all the way up north as 
far north as you could go possibly in the states. The coverage was great. I 
traveled from my home in Texas all the way up to Minnesota and back and had no 
problems. Meaning there was no dropped calls, no long outages of service, and 
very few dead spots. I didn’t hit a dead spot until I first got into Minnesota. 
And even that did not last long. If this helps you winning, they run off of the 
Verizon Towers.

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On 7/12/22 at 2:57 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

> Spectrum ISP sucks. I'm worried about trying the cell coverage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: It May be Time to Review Your Wireless Plan
> 
> Hi Mark, I did this a while back. Because I was paying almost noon $80 for 
> both of my lines. I recently switched to spectrum, and I am a happy spectrum 
> customer. I only have to pay 25 per hour line, and it gets me unlimited data 
> and talk and text. For those of you that have Spectrum in your area, I 
> definitely encourage you to look into something like this.
> 
> Sent using the mobile mail app
> 
> On 7/12/22 at 2:31 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > So, a couple of days ago I received a message from A T & T Wireless 
> > informing me that my wireless plan pricing would be increasing, slightly.
> >
> > Given that the price has been pretty stable for both Verizon and A T & 
> > T Wireless for quite some time, I was just going to absorb the increase.
> >
> > Then I realized that I had not reviewed the latest offerings from 
> > either Verizon Wireless or A T & T Wireless in a long time.
> >
> > What I discovered is that both of these two companies are now offering 
> > products with many more features and at a lower cost than the plans I 
> > already have.
> >
> > So, I switched wireless plans and my new monthly balance will be about 
> > $20 (per wireless provider) less than it would have been had I 
> > remained on the old discontinued plans.
> >
> > So, perhaps it is time for you to take a few moments and review your 
> > wireless plan with your wireless provider to see if you may benefit 
> > from making a change or two.
> >
> > If you are in the United States, I always recommend the following when 
> > dealing with wireless providers:
> >
> > 1.
> > If traveling to a physical wireless provider store, be certain it is a 
> > corporate store and not merely a dealer.
> >
> > 2.
> > If contacting via telephone, call before 3PM (EST) in order to 
> > increase the chances of speaking to a representative who is located in 
> > the United States or Canada.
> >
> > Good Luck and happy shopping.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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Re: Re: Is there an iPhone list with more traffic?

[Joseph Hudson]

 
 First things first, I would like to think Richard for plugging the blind apples group. The fifth phone two group is still up, and does not have any traffic currently. And it's just the plus sign after the iPhone 2 and then the word subscribe just like the groups that I/o groups.--Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail.On 7/12/22, 9:10 AM Richard Turner  wrote:

  There was an issue when googlegroups banned this list. Cara and Mark setup the VIPhone2 list.
  
   It could be more traffic is with that list.
  
  
   I cannot remember right now, before more coffee, the subscription formula for googlegroups but someone will shortly I'm sure if you don't know it.
  
  
   Also, there is blindapp...@groups.io which is more active than this one.
  
  
   blindapples+subscr...@groups.io
  
  
   
  
  
   HTH,
  
  
   
   
   

 


 


 


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  Hi. 
    
  I’ve sent some messages to this list, and have noticed very little messages on it. Is there a new or different list that has taken over? This can be sent to my personal email list if felt best. 
    
  Thanks in advance. 
    
  Kevin, Valerie and Jilly 
    
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RE: Re: A suggestion to Apple

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi, 
How did you get the phone into charge mode? I've never heard of this! 

- Original Message -
From: Bill Gallik 
Date: Monday, July 11, 2022 07:38 AM
To: "viPhone " 
Subject: Re: A suggestion to Apple

I've likewise run in to this issue with my iPhone SE.  I have no idea how the 
iPhone gets into "Silent Mode," but I've learned that when I get no VoiceOver 
feedback I (now) instinctively use the upper physical volume button (just below 
the mute toggle switch) and press furiously to get audible sound back! (Smirk)
I added the "(Smirk)" above because the first few times I ran into this I tried 
all sorts of remedies, none of which worked of course.  I even went so far as 
to place the iPhone SE in charge mode.  Which by the way, did resolve the 
issue, but then I had initiated a quite unnecessary recharge with iPhone being 
somewhere in the 80% charge range to begin with.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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- "but living is the best thing they've come up with so far."
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RE: RE: RE: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover and then tap on the practice area.
Once you are there you can turn 2 fingers on the screen and see if the feedback 
you get it correct.
It is extremely important to know how to use the rotor if you use an iPhone as 
so much functionality depends on changing the rotor to various settings so it 
is definitely a good idea to familiarize yourself with it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

I never used the rotor, so I’m concerned about making a mess. How can I learn 
to use the rotor?
Rena


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

Well if you navigate your rotor to lines, you should be able to read it line by 
line or if you go to characters in someone and so forth. That’s how you would 
read it. If it has multiple lines. The date that you created the note, it’s 
always going to be at the top. Do you want to swipe down until you hear the 
other words, that you’ve written in the document, which will be the title and 
so on and self-forth.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:28 PM, Rena wrote:
From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>>
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Cc:
Subject: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
It sounds that you were right, I clicked on done, and now the note opens, but 
now what should I do to read it? I can hear the date I created the note, and if 
I touch the screen I hear some words, but how can I read it completely?


Rena




From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com<mailto:joseph.hud...@techie.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone


OK, you know what I think I know what’s going on. Somehow you’ve double tapped 
on the edit button. That’s why it’s saying selected. Because you’re trying to 
delete multiple notes. At once which I guess can be done. Double tap on the 
done button, and then double tap on the note. That you want to open. Then your 
note should open.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:18 PM, Rena wrote:
From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>>
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Cc:
Subject: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
When I double tap, I hear selected, but it doesn’t read it, only the title.
I swipe to the right and I hear the next note.
What am I missing?


Rena


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com<mailto:joseph.hud...@techie.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone


Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to 
double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote:
From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>>
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Cc:
Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.
However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.
Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I 
find the next note.
So, what should I do to open a note?


Rena








From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joseph 
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone


Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many 
notes are in it. And then tap on that.

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On 6/28/22, 1:54 PM Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
Hello,

I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If 
I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t 
find the notes I wrote.
What can I do to open each note, or to delete them?

Rena
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Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

[joseph . hudson]

OK, I’m going to assume that you’re just using the phone and not a keyboard if you are using a keyboard feel free to let me know. So you’re going to take two fingers, and turn them like you would a radio dial from right to left. When she went on the adjustment that you want to use, swipe up and down with one finger. That will navigate you from top to bottom of your document. I hope this helps. And if I can be of more assistance, perhaps, it might be good to have a one on one conversation. If this is of interest, we  over the telephone or a medium of your choice. That will navigate you from top to bottom of your document. I hope this helps. And if I can be of more assistance, perhaps, it might be good to have a one on one conversation. If this is of interest, we can discuss this over the telephone or a medium of your choice. Let me know what works best for you. And I will provide information for either platform.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:37 PM, Rena wrote:




From: "Rena" Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone


I never used the rotor, so I’m concerned about making a mess. How can I learn to use the rotor?
Rena
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph.hud...@techie.comSent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:31 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 

Well if you navigate your rotor to lines, you should be able to read it line by line or if you go to characters in someone and so forth. That’s how you would read it. If it has multiple lines. The date that you created the note, it’s always going to be at the top. Do you want to swipe down until you hear the other words, that you’ve written in the document, which will be the title and so on and self-forth.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:28 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" <onyxfran...@gmail.com>Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 
It sounds that you were right, I clicked on done, and now the note opens, but now what should I do to read it? I can hear the date I created the note, and if I touch the screen I hear some words, but how can I read it completely?
 
Rena
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph.hud...@techie.comSent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:21 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 

OK, you know what I think I know what’s going on. Somehow you’ve double tapped on the edit button. That’s why it’s saying selected. Because you’re trying to delete multiple notes. At once which I guess can be done. Double tap on the done button, and then double tap on the note. That you want to open. Then your note should open.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:18 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" <onyxfran...@gmail.com>Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 
When I double tap, I hear selected, but it doesn’t read it, only the title.
I swipe to the right and I hear the next note.
What am I missing?
 
Rena
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph.hud...@techie.comSent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 

Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" <onyxfran...@gmail.com>Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 
Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.
However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.
Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I find the next note.
So, what should I do to open a note?
 
Rena
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joseph HudsonSent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 
Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many notes are in it. And then tap on that.--Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail.

On 6/28/22, 1:54 PM Rena <onyxfran...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
 
I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t find the notes I wrote.
What can I do to open each

RE: RE: RE: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

[Rena]

I never used the rotor, so I’m concerned about making a mess. How can I learn 
to use the rotor?

Rena

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

Well if you navigate your rotor to lines, you should be able to read it line by 
line or if you go to characters in someone and so forth. That’s how you would 
read it. If it has multiple lines. The date that you created the note, it’s 
always going to be at the top. Do you want to swipe down until you hear the 
other words, that you’ve written in the document, which will be the title and 
so on and self-forth.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:28 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> >
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 

It sounds that you were right, I clicked on done, and now the note opens, but 
now what should I do to read it? I can hear the date I created the note, and if 
I touch the screen I hear some words, but how can I read it completely?

 

Rena

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com <mailto:joseph.hud...@techie.com> 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

OK, you know what I think I know what’s going on. Somehow you’ve double tapped 
on the edit button. That’s why it’s saying selected. Because you’re trying to 
delete multiple notes. At once which I guess can be done. Double tap on the 
done button, and then double tap on the note. That you want to open. Then your 
note should open.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:18 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> >
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 

When I double tap, I hear selected, but it doesn’t read it, only the title.

I swipe to the right and I hear the next note.

What am I missing?

 

Rena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com <mailto:joseph.hud...@techie.com> 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to 
double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> >
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: 
Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 

Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.

However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.

Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I 
find the next note.

So, what should I do to open a note?

 

Rena

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many 
notes are in it. And then tap on that.

--
Sent from my Android phone with mail.com <http://mail.com>  Mail.

On 6/28/22, 1:54 PM Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:

Hello,

 

I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If 
I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t 
find the notes I wrote.

What can I do to open each note, or to delete them?

 

Rena

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Re: RE: RE: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

[joseph . hudson]

Well if you navigate your rotor to lines, you should be able to read it line by line or if you go to characters in someone and so forth. That’s how you would read it. If it has multiple lines. The date that you created the note, it’s always going to be at the top. Do you want to swipe down until you hear the other words, that you’ve written in the document, which will be the title and so on and self-forth.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:28 PM, Rena wrote:




From: "Rena" Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone


It sounds that you were right, I clicked on done, and now the note opens, but now what should I do to read it? I can hear the date I created the note, and if I touch the screen I hear some words, but how can I read it completely?
 
Rena
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph.hud...@techie.comSent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:21 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 

OK, you know what I think I know what’s going on. Somehow you’ve double tapped on the edit button. That’s why it’s saying selected. Because you’re trying to delete multiple notes. At once which I guess can be done. Double tap on the done button, and then double tap on the note. That you want to open. Then your note should open.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:18 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" <onyxfran...@gmail.com>Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 
When I double tap, I hear selected, but it doesn’t read it, only the title.
I swipe to the right and I hear the next note.
What am I missing?
 
Rena
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph.hud...@techie.comSent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 

Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" <onyxfran...@gmail.com>Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 
Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.
However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.
Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I find the next note.
So, what should I do to open a note?
 
Rena
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joseph HudsonSent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 
Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many notes are in it. And then tap on that.--Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail.

On 6/28/22, 1:54 PM Rena <onyxfran...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
 
I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t find the notes I wrote.
What can I do to open each note, or to delete them?
 
Rena
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RE: RE: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

[Rena]

It sounds that you were right, I clicked on done, and now the note opens, but 
now what should I do to read it? I can hear the date I created the note, and if 
I touch the screen I hear some words, but how can I read it completely?

 

Rena

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

OK, you know what I think I know what’s going on. Somehow you’ve double tapped 
on the edit button. That’s why it’s saying selected. Because you’re trying to 
delete multiple notes. At once which I guess can be done. Double tap on the 
done button, and then double tap on the note. That you want to open. Then your 
note should open.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:18 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> >
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 

When I double tap, I hear selected, but it doesn’t read it, only the title.

I swipe to the right and I hear the next note.

What am I missing?

 

Rena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com <mailto:joseph.hud...@techie.com> 
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to 
double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> >
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: 
Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 

Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.

However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.

Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I 
find the next note.

So, what should I do to open a note?

 

Rena

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many 
notes are in it. And then tap on that.

--
Sent from my Android phone with mail.com <http://mail.com>  Mail.

On 6/28/22, 1:54 PM Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:

Hello,

 

I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If 
I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t 
find the notes I wrote.

What can I do to open each note, or to delete them?

 

Rena

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Re: RE: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

[joseph . hudson]

OK, you know what I think I know what’s going on. Somehow you’ve double tapped on the edit button. That’s why it’s saying selected. Because you’re trying to delete multiple notes. At once which I guess can be done. Double tap on the done button, and then double tap on the note. That you want to open. Then your note should open.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:18 PM, Rena wrote:




From: "Rena" Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone


When I double tap, I hear selected, but it doesn’t read it, only the title.
I swipe to the right and I hear the next note.
What am I missing?
 
Rena
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph.hud...@techie.comSent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 

Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" <onyxfran...@gmail.com>Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 
Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.
However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.
Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I find the next note.
So, what should I do to open a note?
 
Rena
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joseph HudsonSent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 
Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many notes are in it. And then tap on that.--Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail.

On 6/28/22, 1:54 PM Rena <onyxfran...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
 
I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t find the notes I wrote.
What can I do to open each note, or to delete them?
 
Rena
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RE: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

[Rena]

When I double tap, I hear selected, but it doesn’t read it, only the title.

I swipe to the right and I hear the next note.

What am I missing?

 

Rena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
joseph.hud...@techie.com
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

 

Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to 
double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.

Sent using the mobile mail app

On 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote: 

From: "Rena" mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> >
Date: July 2, 2022
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: 
Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone 

Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.

However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.

Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I 
find the next note.

So, what should I do to open a note?

 

Rena

 

 

 

 

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Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many 
notes are in it. And then tap on that.

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Hello,

 

I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If 
I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t 
find the notes I wrote.

What can I do to open each note, or to delete them?

 

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Re: RE: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone

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Hi Rena, all I have to do is double tap on the note to read it. You may have to double tap and then swipe to the right. Who knows what’s going on on your end.Sent using the mobile mail appOn 7/2/22 at 2:11 PM, Rena wrote:




From: "Rena" Date: July 2, 2022To: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: Subject: RE:  I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone


Finally, I found the notes, and I even could delete some of them.
However, I don’t know how to open the note I want to read.
Nothing happens when I tap on the note I want to read. If I go to the right I find the next note.
So, what should I do to open a note?
 
Rena
 
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph HudsonSent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 3:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: I keep having problems with notes app in iPhone
 
Hello Rena, keep on swiping down until you hear a folder name and then how many notes are in it. And then tap on that.--Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail.

On 6/28/22, 1:54 PM Rena  wrote:

Hello,
 
I know I have 4 notes in the app, but when I open notes, I don’t find them. If I flick to the right I hear edit, new folder, new note, iCloud, but I don’t find the notes I wrote.
What can I do to open each note, or to delete them?
 
Rena
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Re: Re: Sirius-XM problem

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 Yeah but don't do that, unless you want to have to log into your XM radio again.--Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail.On 7/1/22, 5:47 AM Les Kriegler  wrote:

  Good morning,
   
   I do have a suggestion. At this point, it might be useful to uninstall and reinstall the product. That might resolve the issue you were having. I hope it does.
   Best regards,
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   > On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:53 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  wrote:
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   > What plan do you happen to have with Sirius xm? 
   > 
   >> On Jun 30, 2022, at 21:21, William Outman  wrote:
   >> 
   >> Hi, Les. 
   >> The Cubs happen to be my team as well. May have to call Sirius-XM as that’s the same procedure I follow as well. 
   >> Glad to know there’s someone else out there in our group that’s living through this tough transitional year. 
   >> Bill 
   >> 
   >> 
   >> Sent from my iPhone
   >> 
    On Jun 30, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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   >>> Hi Bill,
   >>> 
   >>> I just went to the SiriusXM app on my iPhone. What I did was I chose sports. Then I chose MLB. Then I chose a channel that I wanted to play, it happen to be my teams game, the Cubs. It started playing immediately. I’m not certain what would’ve changed in your system, but things are working fine here and this is the procedure I followed to get the stream to play. Good luck with this.
   >>> Best,
   >>> Les 
   >>> 
   >>> Sent from my iPhone
   >>> 
    On Jun 30, 2022, at 8:43 PM, William Outman  wrote:
    
    Good evening. 
    I have Sirius-XM on my iPhone 8 Plus. 
    Suddenly this week I cannot get my baseball games other than the one airing on MLB Network Radio. The channels show up in my app but when I select one the feed does not pull up. 
    Sometimes the app will go to some other channel I have played. The play/pause button shows up correctly but the other buttons show as dimmed. I can find the current score when in the list of game channels. 
    I looked for a setting that might be amiss, but couldn’t find one. When I am in the app sometime I see something about whether video is installed but can’t quite understand it, or if I need to change something. 
    Is there a technical issue or is there something I need to adjust in my subscription or the app. 
    I first noticed this problem Tuesday, as my team had the day off Monday, and Sunday was fine. 
    Bill Outman 
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RE: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

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Hi, 
I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently as 
last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
> GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind. 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Jasmine 
> 
> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
> 
> 

"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
> To: 
> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
> 
> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it 
> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been 
> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
> Earle
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RE: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi, 
I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently as 
last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
> GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind. 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Jasmine 
> 
> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
> 
> 

"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
> To: 
> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
> 
> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it 
> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been 
> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
> Earle
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Itunes works fine for me.

On 3/30/22, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> Hi,
> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get
> the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
>
>
>
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
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> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>
> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file
> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it
> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been
> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
> Earle
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi, 
Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind. 

Sincerely, 
Jasmine 



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
To: 
CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it will 
show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been able to 
put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 30, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
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RE: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[Paula Jordan]

I’m thrilled I can still use nearby explorer. Thanks for the info. I also have 
BlindSquare and like it too, but I think I like explorer better. 
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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RE: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[terrieter]

Hello Julian,
Oh, I am going to try this now! I had no idea that this might be possible. 
Thank you for your instructions. I'll let you all know if it works.
Terrie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
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Re: ~RE: best map app for announcing street intersections

[Julian]

As far as I understand, if you had purchased Nearby Explorer, you should still 
be able to download it to your phone even though it isn't currently offered in 
the App Store. You have to go into your account in the App Store and look under 
the purchased tab and you should see it there and it should offer you the 
ability to re-download it. I agree 100% that nearby explorer is the best GPS 
app out there and I will keep using it as long as it works. Hope that helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:42 PM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:
> 
> Mark, I totally agree with you. One of the saddest mistakes I ever made was 
> uninstalling Nearby Explorer from my iPhone. GoodMaps sometimes gives street 
> names and sometimes not and also is selective about announcing POIs. 
> Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for no reason that I can figure.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
> 
> Unfortunately I have not found anything that is even close to being as good 
> as nearby explorer and that app is no longer in development, really sad since 
> I think that was by far the best GPS app for blind people.
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 2:15 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think goodmaps explore does this but I don’t like the app much.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
>> Spittle
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: best map app for announcing street intersections
>> 
>> I like Soundscape. It not only tells you the intersection but it gives you a 
>> general idea on whether it’s a cross street or if it dead ends and it’s free 
>> best used with Aftershokz or open ear headphones
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Cher Bosch  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would you all please recommend a walking directions map app and state how 
>>> it does a great job of announcing intersections? Many thanks in advance 
>>> 
>>> Cher
>>> 
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RE: RE: Attention All Amazon Prime Subscribers

[la...@comcast.net]

This is for books which are on both audible and kindle, not kindle only. For 
those you get your voice-over voice. 

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From: "M. Taylor" 
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2022 02:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention All Amazon Prime Subscribers

Hello Mont,
Yes, the audio narrators are real people, not a TTS.  
So, in the Kindle app, you can read the title via VoiceOver or choose to hear 
the human voices which were recorded in a studio; the same audio heard in any 
Audible title.
You can also navigate the title via the audio narration or via VoiceOver.  For 
example, when you use a VoiceOver gesture to change pages or jump to a specific 
location in the book, when next you engage the Audible portion, the human voice 
narration reading will resume at the same location. It's really quite amazing 
(smile).
In the US, a standard annual Prime membership subscription is currently $139.
Mark
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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mrsin...@sasktel.net
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 4:13 AM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention All Amazon Prime Subscribers
Hi Mark,
Were these books you downloaded for free, with your amazon prime account,  read 
by real people of was it  t t s?
Thanks,
Mont.
P s,  how much does this amazon prime account cost?
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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: February 25, 2022 8:14 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Attention All Amazon Prime Subscribers
Hello Everyone,
I am posting this because I recently discovered a new resource for accessing / 
downloading newly released and more, Audible audiobooks at no additional charge 
to Prime subscribers.
Please understand that there is a great deal about Amazon and Amazon prime 
benefits that many find rather confusion, including me, so I am just going to 
relay my experience and in no way am I posting as an expert.
Okay, the other day, I saw an advertisement for a newly released collection of 
short stories that were published on Kindle, only, with audio narration 
(narration by Audible).  There was a fee for the collection but the 
advertisement stated that Prime members could download and read the collection 
for free.
Intrigued, I fired up my trusty iOS Kindle app and opened the Discover tab.
Now remember, I'm going to keep this as simple as possible.  In no way was my 
first experience a quick and smooth one for I had no idea of how any of this 
worked.
Okay, after opening the Discover tab, I selected the category, "Prime Reading." 
 There is also a "Kindle Unlimited" category, which I did not explore.  
I suspect that the Kindle Unlimited program is to Prime Reading as the Amazon 
Music Unlimited program is to Prime Music; a guess, only.
Once I selected Prime Reading, a new screen was displayed.  There are several 
sub categories to explore but, in order to search for a specific title, I 
selected "Browse the Catalog."
On the next screen, there are two important items to note:  (1) the search 
field and (2) the filter button.
Whether you merely want to browse the catalog or search for a specific title, 
set the filter to "eBooks with Audible" and launch your search.
All of the resulting titles will be eBooks that have Audible narration that are 
free for Prime members to read in Kindle and/or listen to via Audible.
Of course there are many, many ways to navigate through the Prime Reading 
universe but the above was the method I used to get started.
What I find most delightful is that I have been able to download some titles 
that were published for Kindle, only, and still enjoy the Audible experience 
without having to pay additional fees.
Okay, I hope you find this useful.
Happy Reading,
Mark

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RE: re iphone advice please

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Let's hope it will be more interesting than the 10th anniversary when the 
iPhone X came out, if I remember correctly that phone was a 1-year wonder and 
discontinued in 2018 with the release of the XS and XR.
In any case, I doubt Apple will make the release of a phone with under-display 
Touch Id in addition to Face Id or one without ports or one which folds or 
maybe one you can roll up like a carpet conditional to the 20th or 25th 
anniversary, these advances come when they come.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 10, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th anniversary.  
That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is 
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the 
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and 
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which 
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029 
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no 
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live 
>> off the stock market.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the 
>> iPhone in whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the 
>> Apple Watch does not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think 
>> that will be different with these goggles. I think there are many 
>> people who may not want to run around with goggles on their head all 
>> day long and while such articles with such titles are pretty 
>> successful in getting people to click on them, I think their ability 
>> to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
>> computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches 
>> desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 
>> years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR 
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home 
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to 
>> potentially sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to 
>> Wedbush. But the iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest 
>> of this decade left before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz 
>> now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sieghard,
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with 
>> home buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has 
>> been rumored to still have a home button.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and 
>> the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use 
>> as a home button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but 
>> they aren't as easy or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 
>> 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial chirp starting the home gesture 
>> not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So much so that I 
>> customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app switcher 
>> and home. Different strokes for different folks.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Alan Lemly
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
>>
>> 
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroup

RE: re iphone advice please

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hell,
I'm just hoping I wake up tomorrow 

Lets not get carried away here.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th anniversary.  
That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is 
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the 
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and 
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which 
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029 
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no 
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live 
>> off the stock market.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the 
>> iPhone in whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the 
>> Apple Watch does not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think 
>> that will be different with these goggles. I think there are many 
>> people who may not want to run around with goggles on their head all 
>> day long and while such articles with such titles are pretty 
>> successful in getting people to click on them, I think their ability 
>> to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
>> computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches 
>> desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 
>> years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR 
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home 
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to 
>> potentially sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to 
>> Wedbush. But the iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest 
>> of this decade left before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz 
>> now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sieghard,
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with 
>> home buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has 
>> been rumored to still have a home button.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and 
>> the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use 
>> as a home button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but 
>> they aren't as easy or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 
>> 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial chirp starting the home gesture 
>> not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So much so that I 
>> customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app switcher 
>> and home. Different strokes for different folks.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Alan Lemly
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
>>
>> 
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>> of Sieghard Weitzel 
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a 
>> huge advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to 
>> learn the swipe up ge

Re: re iphone advice please

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'm looking forward to 2027 when the iPhone will have its 20th
anniversary.  That will be very interesting.

On 12/10/21, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is
> going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the
> iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and
> given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which
> over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029
> is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no
> ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live off
>> the
>> stock market.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone
>> in
>> whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch
>> does
>> not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be
>> different
>> with these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run
>> around with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles
>> with
>> such titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I
>> think their ability to correctly predict what will happen is less
>> successful. Despite the computing power of today's smartphones and even
>> smart watches desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in
>> the
>> last 2 years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some
>> AR
>> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> TaraPrakash
>> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>>
>>
>>
>> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home
>> button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> As for this article,
>>
>> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to
>> potentially
>> sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But
>> the
>> iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left
>> before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's
>> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sieghard,
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home
>> buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has been
>> rumored
>> to still have a home button.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the
>> app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home
>> button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as
>> easy
>> or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing
>> that initial chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as
>> pressing a button. So much so that I customized my gestures so I have a
>> dedicated one for the app switcher and home. Different strokes for
>> different
>> folks.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Alan Lemly
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
>>
>> 
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Sieghard Weitzel 
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>>
>>  
>>
>>  I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge
>> advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the
>> swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the
>> app
>> switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would
>> have to deal with a phone with no home button in 

Re: re iphone advice please

[Wayne Merritt]

Though I didn't read the linked article, I also doubt the iPhone is
going anywhere anytime soon. I remember hearing somewhere that the
iPhone is a large portion of Apple's business and their sales, and
given that, it doesn't make sense for them to fade out a product which
over 2 billion people have. What is more likely is the iPhone of 2029
is probably going to look different or have different ports, or no
ports, than the iPhones many of us have today.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 12/10/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live off the
> stock market.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>
> My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone in
> whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch does
> not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be different
> with these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run
> around with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles with
> such titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I
> think their ability to correctly predict what will happen is less
> successful. Despite the computing power of today's smartphones and even
> smart watches desktops and laptops are still being sold and actually in the
> last 2 years in record numbers and the emergence or introduction of some AR
> or VR goggles will not cause the smartphone to disappear any time soon.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> TaraPrakash
> Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: re iphone advice please
>
>
>
> There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home button.
>
>
>
>
> As for this article,
>
> This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to potentially
> sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But the
> iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left
> before it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's
> upcoming goggles.   https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
>   
>
>   Sieghard,
>
>   
>
>   I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home
> buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has been rumored
> to still have a home button.
>
>   
>
>   And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the
> app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home
> button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as easy
> or as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing
> that initial chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as
> pressing a button. So much so that I customized my gestures so I have a
> dedicated one for the app switcher and home. Different strokes for different
> folks.
>
>   
>
>   Alan Lemly
>
>   
>
>   Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS
>
> 
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Sieghard Weitzel 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>   Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>
>   
>
>   I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge
> advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the
> swipe up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the app
> switcher and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would
> have to deal with a phone with no home button in a few years.
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mo
>   Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: RE: re iphone advice please
>   
>   Hi Richard and Wayne,
>   Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
>   This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a
> home button as other models they have used have had this.
>   Out of these three which has the home button please?
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behal

RE: re iphone advice please

[Carolyn]

True, Sieghard. If we could really predict the future, we could live off the 
stock market. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone in 
whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch does 
not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be different with 
these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run around 
with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles with such 
titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I think their 
ability to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches desktops and 
laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 years in record numbers 
and the emergence or introduction of some AR or VR goggles will not cause the 
smartphone to disappear any time soon.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

 

There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home button. 

 

As for this article,  

This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to potentially 
sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But the 
iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left before 
it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's upcoming goggles. 
  https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Sieghard, 

 

I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home 
buttons. The next generation SE expected later next spring has been rumored to 
still have a home button. 

 

And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and 
the app switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home 
button. They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as easy or 
as fast as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing that 
initial chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as pressing a 
button. So much so that I customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for 
the app switcher and home. Different strokes for different folks. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>  for iOS



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please 

 

I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge 
advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the swipe 
up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the app switcher 
and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would have to deal 
with a phone with no home button in a few years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mo
Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

Hi Richard and Wayne,
Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have 
a home button as other models they have used have had this.
Out of these three which has the home button please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 
11, so its hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long 
run, the SE has a chance of being supported longer; otherwise, accessibility is 
really the same in all iPhone models.
The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the 
home button?

 



Richard
"Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
  

RE: re iphone advice please

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My prediction is that it will take a lot longer than that for the iPhone in 
whatever form to go away. Just because Apple introduced the Apple Watch does 
not mean the iPhone is going away and I don't think that will be different with 
these goggles. I think there are many people who may not want to run around 
with goggles on their head all day long and while such articles with such 
titles are pretty successful in getting people to click on them, I think their 
ability to correctly predict what will happen is less successful. Despite the 
computing power of today's smartphones and even smart watches desktops and 
laptops are still being sold and actually in the last 2 years in record numbers 
and the emergence or introduction of some AR or VR goggles will not cause the 
smartphone to disappear any time soon.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: December 9, 2021 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home button.

As for this article,
This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to potentially 
sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But the 
iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left before 
it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's upcoming goggles. 
  https://apple.news/AKWcvoxuKSeOErZAO8IwNcA
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Sieghard,

I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home buttons. 
The next generation SE expected later next spring has been rumored to still 
have a home button.

And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the app 
switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home button. 
They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as easy or as fast 
as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial 
chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So 
much so that I customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app 
switcher and home. Different strokes for different folks.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge 
advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the swipe 
up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the app switcher 
and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would have to deal 
with a phone with no home button in a few years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo
Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

Hi Richard and Wayne,
Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a home 
button as other models they have used have had this.
Out of these three which has the home button please?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 11, so its 
hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long run, the SE 
has a chance of being supported longer; otherwise, accessibility is really the 
same in all iPhone models.
The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the home 
button?





Richard
"Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

Hello. Basically, do you want a home button or not. The SE 2020 has a home 
button, which many blind folk consider to be more accessible.
However, the newer phones after the 10 series, though they don't have home 
buttons, they are just as accessible. Basically, you slide a finger up from the 
bottom or down from the top. Based on the vibrations you feel and noises you 
hear, you can access the home screen, app switcher, notification or control 
centers. I've been using this newer style since the XR. Though there was an 
initial adjustment period, it did not take me long to get the hang of the new 
way. Now, I pick up my 2020 SE for work and find myself wanting

Re: re iphone advice please

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On Dec 9, 2021, at 6:24 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:

 There  may not be any iPhones in near future , with or without home button.

As for this article,
This may seem like a comical thing to say when Apple is about to potentially 
sell 40 million iPhones this holiday season, according to Wedbush. But the 
iPhone is in its sunset years. It has maybe the rest of this decade left before 
it's put out to pasture. And all the buzz now is over Apple's upcoming goggles. 
  
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On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Sieghard,

I'd caution you against saying there will be no more iPhones with home buttons. 
The next generation SE expected later next spring has been rumored to still 
have a home button.

And I disagree with others that the new gesture to activate home and the app 
switcher on phones without a home button are as easy to use as a home button. 
They are certainly accessible and manageable but they aren't as easy or as fast 
as pressing a button. And on my iPhone 13 Mini, I find hearing that initial 
chirp starting the home gesture not nearly as obvious as pressing a button. So 
much so that I customized my gestures so I have a dedicated one for the app 
switcher and home. Different strokes for different folks.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 10:53:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

I would totally not get stuck on the idea that a home button has a huge 
advantage, it will take most people all of 10 or 15 minutes to learn the swipe 
up gesture required to go back to the home screen or bring up the app switcher 
and even if they bought an SE 2020 now then certainly they would have to deal 
with a phone with no home button in a few years.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo
Sent: December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

Hi Richard and Wayne,
Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a home 
button as other models they have used have had this.
Out of these three which has the home button please?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 11, so its 
hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long run, the SE 
has a chance of being supported longer; otherwise, accessibility is really the 
same in all iPhone models.
The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the home 
button?





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re iphone advice please

Hello. Basically, do you want a home button or not. The SE 2020 has a home 
button, which many blind folk consider to be more accessible.
However, the newer phones after the 10 series, though they don't have home 
buttons, they are just as accessible. Basically