Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-28 Thread Scott Davert
Thank you both for the responses. I agree, this doesn't sound like an
ideal solution for braille users. I hope you both had a fantastic
holiday!

Scott

On 12/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> Braille does not keep up with speech but it remains available so after it
> has found text, you can move the phone away and still read the Braille.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>
> Hi Scott,
> I just did.
> There is a trial, but the only channel I could see trying to use with
> braille is the document scan mode, and I doubt it would be worth buying
> since there are other document scanning apps that work fine with braille
> displays.
>
> The scan mode and quick read would be pretty hard to use as you have to keep
> the phone over the document and the braille doesn't seem to keep up with
> what is being spoken.
> You may want to give the free trial a try.
> But, I'm thinking it is not the best fit for braille only.
>
>
>
> Richard, in the U.S.
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> • I’m not the card shark
> • My web site, www.turner42.com
> •
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott
> Davert
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>
> Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there is a
> trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has tried this
> with a braille display?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Snappier than Seeing AI
>>
>>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> Steve Cook, CPM
>>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>>> Newsline Administrator
>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>>> Columbia, SC 29201
>>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>>> 1-888-335-5951
>>> 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.s
>>> ccb.state.sc.us%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C0f17527995f34fc07b5e08d8a393
>>> 346a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637439199918090268%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I
>>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=o16tCu9XI6ZH%2FhGC%2BvgRhyHhlu
>>> VPhW4TpjzSs%2BiXv4s%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>>
>>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>>
>>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50,
>>> even as a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Mr.
>>> Ed
>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>>
>>> I Richard,
>>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it
>>> would

RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-18 Thread Deb Cook Lewis
Braille does not keep up with speech but it remains available so after it has 
found text, you can move the phone away and still read the Braille. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Hi Scott,
I just did.
There is a trial, but the only channel I could see trying to use with braille 
is the document scan mode, and I doubt it would be worth buying since there are 
other document scanning apps that work fine with braille displays.

The scan mode and quick read would be pretty hard to use as you have to keep 
the phone over the document and the braille doesn't seem to keep up with what 
is being spoken.
You may want to give the free trial a try.
But, I'm thinking it is not the best fit for braille only.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
•
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there is a 
trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has tried this 
with a braille display?

Thanks,
Scott

On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Snappier than Seeing AI
>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Newsline Administrator
>> SC Commission for the Blind
>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>> 1-888-335-5951
>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.s
>> ccb.state.sc.us%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C0f17527995f34fc07b5e08d8a393
>> 346a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637439199918090268%
>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I
>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=o16tCu9XI6ZH%2FhGC%2BvgRhyHhlu
>> VPhW4TpjzSs%2BiXv4s%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, 
>> even as a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
>> Ed
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I Richard,
>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it 
>> would be
>> $99 a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would 
>> be really expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I 
>> thought I got it for a good price. That app did not pan out very 
>> well. I am like you Richard. It seems really expensive.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various 
>> modes, thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros:

RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-18 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Scott,
I just did.
There is a trial, but the only channel I could see trying to use with braille 
is the document scan mode, and I doubt it would be worth buying since there are 
other document scanning apps that work fine with braille displays.

The scan mode and quick read would be pretty hard to use as you have to keep 
the phone over the document and the braille doesn't seem to keep up with what 
is being spoken.
You may want to give the free trial a try.
But, I'm thinking it is not the best fit for braille only.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

• I’m not the card shark
• My web site, www.turner42.com
• 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there is a 
trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has tried this 
with a braille display?

Thanks,
Scott

On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Snappier than Seeing AI
>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Newsline Administrator
>> SC Commission for the Blind
>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>> 1-888-335-5951
>> 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.s
>> ccb.state.sc.us%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C0f17527995f34fc07b5e08d8a393
>> 346a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637439199918090268%
>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6I
>> k1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=o16tCu9XI6ZH%2FhGC%2BvgRhyHhlu
>> VPhW4TpjzSs%2BiXv4s%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, 
>> even as a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
>> Ed
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I Richard,
>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it 
>> would be
>> $99 a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would 
>> be really expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I 
>> thought I got it for a good price. That app did not pan out very 
>> well. I am like you Richard. It seems really expensive.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various 
>> modes, thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with 
>> specific messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch 
>> to the left, etc.
>> I like the music while processing, very nice.
>> The accuracy is very good.
>>
>> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I 
>> would possibly buy it.
>>
>

Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-18 Thread Scott Davert
Has anyone tried Super Sense with braille only? I'm not sure if there
is a trial, but since I do not use speech, I'm wondering if anyone has
tried this with a braille display?

Thanks,
Scott

On 12/18/20, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Snappier than Seeing AI
>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Newsline Administrator
>> SC Commission for the Blind
>> 1430 Confederate avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>> 1-888-335-5951
>> 
>> www.sccb.state.sc.us
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as
>> a one time payment, but that is just me.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
>> Ed
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I Richard,
>> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be
>> $99 a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be
>> really expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got
>> it for a good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you
>> Richard. It seems really expensive.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>>
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various
>> modes, thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
>> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
>> etc.
>> I like the music while processing, very nice.
>> The accuracy is very good.
>>
>> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
>> possibly buy it.
>>
>> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
>> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
>> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>>
>> Currency, Pros: very fast.
>> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
>> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
>> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
>> money identification app to double check with.
>>
>> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
>> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
>> thermostats, etc.
>> Cons: none at this time.
>>
>> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
>> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>>
>> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>>
>> No cons at this time.
>>
>> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
>> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>>
>> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would
>> seriously consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now
>> with the other apps I have.
>>
>> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than
>> immediately begin trying to scan.
>>
>> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while
>> to add.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy ha

Re: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Snappier than Seeing AI

> On 17 Dec 2020, at 19:29, Cook, Steve  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?
>  
> Thank You,
> Steve Cook, CPM
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Newsline Administrator
> SC Commission for the Blind
> 1430 Confederate avenue
> Columbia, SC 29201
> Office: (803) 898-8788
> Cell: (803) 908-3856
> 1-888-335-5951
> 
> www.sccb.state.sc.us
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
> Harry
> 
> 
> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
> one time payment, but that is just me.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
>  
> Software means never having to say you're finished 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I Richard,
> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 
> a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
> expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
> good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It 
> seems really expensive.
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>  
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>  
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
> possibly buy it.
>  
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>  
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a 
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
> identification app to double check with.
>  
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
> etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>  
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate. 
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>  
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>  
> No cons at this time.
>  
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>  
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
> apps I have.
>  
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than 
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>  
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
> add.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
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RE: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread Cook, Steve
Did you try this with Seeing AI or another OCR app to compare?

Thank You,
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951
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From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
Harry


On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:

I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions

Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
one time payment, but that is just me.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished




On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

I Richard,
When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Supersense just read out another handwritten Christmas card!
Harry

> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:28, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
> one time payment, but that is just me.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
>  
> Software means never having to say you're finished 
>  
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I Richard,
> When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 
> a year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
> expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
> good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It 
> seems really expensive.
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Supersense, initial impressions
>  
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>  
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>  
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
> possibly buy it.
>  
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>  
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a 
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
> identification app to double check with.
>  
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
> etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>  
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate. 
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>  
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>  
> No cons at this time.
>  
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>  
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
> apps I have.
>  
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than 
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>  
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
> add.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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RE: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-17 Thread Dennis Long
I agree.  I’m still thinking about it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions

 

Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
one time payment, but that is just me. 

 

Richard 

 

 

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mr. 
Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

 

I Richard,

When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

 

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

 

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.

I like the music while processing, very nice.

The accuracy is very good.

 

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

 

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.

Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

 

Currency, Pros: very fast.

Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.

That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

 

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.

Cons: none at this time.

 

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.  

Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

 

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

 

No cons at this time.

 

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.

I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

 

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

 

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

 

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-10 Thread Shane Lowe
Peggy,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I hadn't received any of your
prior emails, but I'm glad I got this one.
I'm sorry you beat our sale, but hopefully your mind is at peace
knowing you are helping to support our future development! :)


On 12/10/20, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi Shane,
> I have sent you a few messages, not sure if you want to sorry not sure if
> you received them. I really really really like your app. The only thing I
> wish, is that I had waited until it went on sale I would’ve stayed money and
> still enjoyed the app.
> I recommend it to many of my colleagues and friends.
> Thank you very much.
> Peggy
>
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>
>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ryan,
>> I did get your email, and I have replied. :) I am also working with
>> our developers on remedying that currency issue, it is very common and
>> it should be resolved soon.
>>
>>> On 12/9/20, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>>> I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.
>>> One
>>> thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills
>>> some
>>> times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.
>>> I
>>> have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I
>>> put
>>> it close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking
>>> on
>>> Tech Time.  Did you get the emails?
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> ________
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Shane
>>> Lowe 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>>>
>>> I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
>>> anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
>>> I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
>>> setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
>>> two.
>>> The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
>>> project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)
>>>
>>>> On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
>>>> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never
>>>> need,
>>>> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is
>>>> a
>>>> feature.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Richard,
>>>> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my
>>>> promo
>>>> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with
>>>> the
>>>> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed
>>>> the
>>>> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text
>>>> was
>>>> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
>>>> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
>>>> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
>>>> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I
>>>> will
>>>> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found
>>>> so
>>>> far.
>>>> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the
>>>> instant
>>>> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-10 Thread pegkane52
Hi Shane,
I have sent you a few messages, not sure if you want to sorry not sure if you 
received them. I really really really like your app. The only thing I wish, is 
that I had waited until it went on sale I would’ve stayed money and still 
enjoyed the app.
I recommend it to many of my colleagues and friends.
Thank you very much.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Dec 10, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ryan,
> I did get your email, and I have replied. :) I am also working with
> our developers on remedying that currency issue, it is very common and
> it should be resolved soon.
> 
>> On 12/9/20, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.  One
>> thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills some
>> times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.  I
>> have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I put
>> it close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking on
>> Tech Time.  Did you get the emails?
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shane
>> Lowe 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>> 
>> I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
>> anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
>> I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
>> setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
>> two.
>> The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
>> project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)
>> 
>>> On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
>>> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never
>>> need,
>>> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
>>> feature.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi Richard,
>>> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
>>> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
>>> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed
>>> the
>>> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
>>> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
>>> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
>>> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
>>> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I
>>> will
>>> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
>>> far.
>>> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the
>>> instant
>>> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps
>>> that
>>> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the
>>> discussion.
>>> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
>>> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
>>> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
>>> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
>>> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
>>> code for that. I am also testi

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-10 Thread Shane Lowe
Hi Ryan,
I did get your email, and I have replied. :) I am also working with
our developers on remedying that currency issue, it is very common and
it should be resolved soon.

On 12/9/20, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.  One
> thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills some
> times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.  I
> have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I put
> it close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking on
> Tech Time.  Did you get the emails?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shane
> Lowe 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions
>
> I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
> anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
> I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
> setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
> two.
> The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
> project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)
>
> On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
>> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never
>> need,
>> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
>> feature.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Richard,
>> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
>> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
>> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed
>> the
>> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
>> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
>> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
>> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
>> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I
>> will
>> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
>> far.
>> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the
>> instant
>> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>
>>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps
>> that
>> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the
>> discussion.
>> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
>> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
>> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
>> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
>> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
>> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
>> comparison.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various
>> modes,
>> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>>
>> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
>> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
>> etc.
>> I like the music while processing, very nice.
>> The accuracy is very good.
>>
>> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
>> possibly buy it.
>>
>> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
>> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
>> channel did.

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-09 Thread Ryan Mann
I downloaded Super Sense yesterday and I am pretty impressed with it.  One 
thing I noticed is that it tells me the wrong amount on dollar bills some 
times.  I had a one dollar bill and I was told it was a two dollar bill.  I 
have enough vision to be able to tell that I is a one dollar bill if I put it 
close enough to my eyes.  Also, I emailed you privately about speaking on Tech 
Time.  Did you get the emails?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shane 
Lowe 
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:19:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Supersense, initial impressions

I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
two.
The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)

On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need,
> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
> feature.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  Hi Richard,
> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the
> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will
> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
> far.
> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant
> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that
> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion.
> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
> comparison.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
> etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
> possibly buy it.
>
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
> money identification app to double check with.
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
> thermostats, etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-09 Thread Shane Lowe
I'm very happy to hear that, Chris. Please let me know if there is
anything else I can do to improve the Supersense experience for you.
I'm making notes of everyone's suggestions, and hope to have a new
setting and implementation of column handling in the next month or
two.
The reason for the delay is that we are working on a simultaneous
project which I will reach out to the list about next week. ;)

On 12/8/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a
> setting or an option designated as handwriting.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need,
> grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a
> feature.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  Hi Richard,
> Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo
> code from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the
> results. Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the
> test. As expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was
> easy to understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the
> english handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic
> handwriting but may do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write
> Arabic. It is definitely superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will
> do more testing in the next few days, but I am happy with what I found so
> far.
> I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant
> read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
> Cheers
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that
> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion.
> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
> comparison.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
> etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
> possibly buy it.
>
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
> money identification app to double check with.
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
> thermostats, etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>
> No cons at this time.
>
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the
> other apps I have.
>
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
> add.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> 

Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Cris Ali
Hi Richard,
Apparently it can detect handwriting automatically. You will not find a setting 
or an option designated as handwriting.

Cheers


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need, 
grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a 
feature.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 Hi Richard,
Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo code 
from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the results. 
Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the test. As 
expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was easy to 
understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the english 
handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic handwriting but may 
do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write Arabic. It is definitely 
superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will do more testing in the next 
few days, but I am happy with what I found so far.
I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant 
read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
Cheers


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Richard Turner
That is fantastic that it can handle Arabic! something I will never need, 
grin.I will test the handwriting in English, I did not realize that is a 
feature.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 Hi Richard,
Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo code 
from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the results. 
Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the test. As 
expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was easy to 
understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the english 
handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic handwriting but may 
do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write Arabic. It is definitely 
superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will do more testing in the next 
few days, but I am happy with what I found so far.
I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant 
read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
Cheers


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Cris Ali
Hi Richard,
Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo code 
from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the results. 
Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the test. As 
expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was easy to 
understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the english 
handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic handwriting but may 
do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write Arabic. It is definitely 
superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will do more testing in the next 
few days, but I am happy with what I found so far.
I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant 
read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
Cheers


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Cris Ali
Hi Richard,
Thanks for sharing your impressions of SuperSense with us. I got my promo code 
from Shane and did similar tests on Arabic text. I am happy with the results. 
Performing OCR on Arabic text is challenging.superSense passed the test. As 
expected, there were some recognition mistakes, but the text was easy to 
understand. What impressed me the most was the quality of the english 
handwriting recognition. I did not test the app on Arabic handwriting but may 
do that once I meet a friend who knows how to write Arabic. It is definitely 
superior to that of Seeing AI and Envision. I will do more testing in the next 
few days, but I am happy with what I found so far.
I also agree with your suggestion. The future update should put the instant 
read in the off position, or give the users the choice in the settings.
Cheers


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-08 Thread Shane Lowe
Chris,
I'm sorry for the confusion, I did reach out to you yesterday but
something must have gotten lost on the way. I will be resending your
promo code after I send this message.

Richard, thanks very much for the honest and thorough review. We
currently have a system which can process columns, and are in the
implementation phase now. I will also reach out to our development
team about adding the ability to scan ISBN numbers; that's a really
good idea.

The other thing I should mention about our price is that it includes
all of the features we are currently developing. While the app is
relatively expensive when compared to Voice Dream and Seeing AI, our
goal is to perform a lot of innovative research to collaborate and
benefit the community as much as possible. Unfortunately, that can be
pretty costly, but in the long run, you'll have access to far more
than what is visible in the app today.

On 12/7/20, Cris Ali  wrote:
> I do not like to pressure him. He said he will contact us privately, so I
> will wait until tomorrow. If he does not contact me I will contact him. I
> need to decide between supersense and envision. Envision is more expensive,
> but price is not everything.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>
>  You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that
> recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion.
> I was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was
> disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr
> quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the
> same photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became
> subscription only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo
> code for that. I am also testing envision to see how it scores in
> comparison.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes,
> thanks to Shane’s promo code.
>
> in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific
> messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left,
> etc.
> I like the music while processing, very nice.
> The accuracy is very good.
>
> Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would
> possibly buy it.
>
> Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
> Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product
> channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.
>
> Currency, Pros: very fast.
> Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a
> couple times after saying $10, it said $50.
> That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another
> money identification app to double check with.
> Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this
> helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches,
> thermostats, etc.
> Cons: none at this time.
>
> Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
> Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.
>
> Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.
>
> No cons at this time.
>
> Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
> I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.
>
> If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously
> consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the
> other apps I have.
>
> I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than
> immediately begin trying to scan.
>
> I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to
> add.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Cris Ali
I do not like to pressure him. He said he will contact us privately, so I will 
wait until tomorrow. If he does not contact me I will contact him. I need to 
decide between supersense and envision. Envision is more expensive, but price 
is not everything.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Richard Turner
Right now, it is on sale for half price. I'm not sure I'd pay $50, even as a 
one time payment, but that is just me.


Richard


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On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

I Richard,
When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
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RE: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Larry Lumpkin
No, the lifetime subscription is a one-time payment of $99.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense, initial impressions

 

I Richard,

When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

 

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

 

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.

I like the music while processing, very nice.

The accuracy is very good.

 

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

 

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.

Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

 

Currency, Pros: very fast.

Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.

That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

 

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.

Cons: none at this time.

 

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.  

Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

 

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

 

No cons at this time.

 

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.

I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

 

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

 

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

 

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

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RE: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Mr. Ed
I Richard,

When I read your other email on the pricing. I took it to say it would be $99 a 
year. Is this the way you read it? If that is the case it would be really 
expenseve.  I remember paying about $75 for KNFB as I thought I got it for a 
good price. That app did not pan out very well. I am like you Richard. It seems 
really expensive.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supersense, initial impressions

 

I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

 

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.

I like the music while processing, very nice.

The accuracy is very good.

 

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

 

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.

Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

 

Currency, Pros: very fast.

Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.

That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.

 

Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.

Cons: none at this time.

 

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.  

Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

 

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

 

No cons at this time.

 

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.

I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

 

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

 

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

 

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Richard Turner
I wrote him directly, rather than to the list.

Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





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Re: Supersense, initial impressions

2020-12-07 Thread Cris Ali
You got lucky Man. I received no promo codes. I am interested in apps that 
recognize Arabic text, and that was the reason for starting the discussion. I 
was able to try the instant read on an Arabic text and the result was 
disappointing. I tried to import a photo with Arabic text on it, the ocr 
quality was okay, but not any better than what i got when I imported the same 
photo to voice ocr which I got for free before the app became subscription 
only. I am interested in the document scan, if I get a promo code for that. I 
am also testing envision to see how it scores in comparison.

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On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I’ve spent the last hour or so running SuperSense through its various modes, 
thanks to Shane’s promo code.

in the document mode, Pros: I like the way it prompts you with specific 
messages, like move farther from the document; move an inch to the left, etc.
I like the music while processing, very nice.
The accuracy is very good.

Cons: like most OCR apps, it cannot handle columns.  If it did, I would 
possibly buy it.

Bar codes, Pros: Very fast.
Cons: it did not recognize a hardback book ISBN while Seeing AI’s product 
channel did.  Otherwise, I think pretty even.

Currency, Pros: very fast.
Cons: I was scanning a $10 bill and when I moved the camera sideways, a couple 
times after saying $10, it said $50.
That would be too confusing to someone who did not know or have another money 
identification app to double check with.
Explore Mode, Pros: pretty quick and generally accurate.  I could see this 
helping someone in a hotel room find things like light switches, thermostats, 
etc.
Cons: none at this time.

Smart Scan, Pros: very fast and pretty accurate.
Cons: it does not seem any better than Seeing AI’s Short Text mode.

Quick Read, Pros: seems very fast.  Also quite accurate.

No cons at this time.

Overall:  I most certainly would never pay $100 for this app.
I’m doubtful I would even spend $50.

If I did not have other apps to get my scanning needs met, I would seriously 
consider spending the $50, but I’m not in need of it right now with the other 
apps I have.

I wish it would start each mode in the stopped position rather than immediately 
begin trying to scan.

I will keep exploring uses for it and write if I have updates worth while to 
add.





Richard
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