RE: Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm headphone jack

2016-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
They wrote it because everybody likes to bash Apple. It is my guess that these 
theoretical test results are not something most of us would actually notice or 
hear the difference especially if you use a "normal" headset and not a $600 or 
$1,000 super high-end earphones.
When I was in Vancouver and stopped by an Apple store I actually bought a set 
of the new Lightning Earpods for my 6S Plus because I was curious as to the 
experience and the sou,d. Yes, I do often charge my phone at night when I also 
want to listen to a book on Audible so I either reach for my old Earpods or use 
Bluetooth, but I like the Lightning Earpods, they sound good although I can't 
say they sound a lot better than my 3.5mm set where the ear pieces have been in 
the water a few times since sometimes I have them hanging around my neck and 
they fall in the sink when I wash my hands.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 
3.5mm headphone jack

This article looks like so much Clickbait to me. They make this a big deal and 
then they say, "no dick big deal anyway. So why did they bother writing the 
article?
Mary

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On Sep 20, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Russ Kiehne 
<russ94...@gmail.com<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I ran across the following article:

Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm 
headphone jack

#iPhone7 #iPhone6s – Tests 
show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm headphone 
jack : With all of the media coverage leading up to and following Apple’s big 
iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus unveiling, just about everyone on the planet knows 
at this point that Apple ditched the standard 3.5mm headphone jack. Instead, 
its latest iPhones include only a Lightning port on the bottom.

Apple suggests that iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus owners use either wireless 
headphones or wired headphones with a Lightning connector, like the EarPods 
Apple included in the box.

Of course, there’s also a 3.5mm-to-Lightning adapter included with the iPhone 7 
series that lets you connect your old 3.5mm headphones with no problem.



Despite all the steps Apple has taken and despite the popularity of wireless 
headphones, people still have a number of complaints about Apple’s decision to 
do away with the 3.5mm audio port on its latest iPhones.

Some complaints are valid while others are a stretch, but now it looks like a 
new issue may have been uncovered that no one even realized until now.

A German 
magazine<http://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/iPhone-7-nachgemessen-Audio-Adapter-liefert-schlechteren-Sound-3325932.html>
 has run extensive tests on the audio adapter included in the box with Apple’s 
new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The magazine’s goal was to determine whether or 
not there is any sound degradation when using the adapter as compared to the 
standard 3.5mm audio port on last year’s iPhone 6s.

While the article is in German and translations have varied a bit on 
Reddit<https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/53dwp1/german_magazine_iphone_7_with_adapter_sounds/>
 and on the gadget 
forum<http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1279666=1> where we the 
article was first linked, it looks like the tests did in fact find that sound 
quality is degraded when the adapter is being used.

A translated quote from the article:

The results are clear: with an iPhone 6S, the dynamic range worsens by 4.5 
dB(A) for 24-bit music files. For the iPad Air, it worsens by 3.8 dB(A).

The signal also gets worse for 16-bit music files, even if they aren’t that 
drastic: the dynamic range worsens by 1.8 dB(A) and 3.1 dB(A) for the iPhone 
and iPad, respectively.



And here’s a chart that shows the full results from the tests:

[https://i.imgur.com/7zGQ3HT.png]

Now, before rage overcomes you and you smash your new iPhone 7 against a wall, 
you should know that these results aren’t terribly troubling.

Without diving into a technical explanation, the bottom line is that the 
difference is going to be completely imperceptible to most people. Even 
audiophiles with an incredible ear for sound won’t notice the difference unless 
they’re listening to high-quality 24-bit audio files.

While streaming music through services like Spotify, or while listening to 
compressed sound files in popular formats like MP3, not even the snobbiest 
sound snobs out there will be able to tell the difference. Source: 
BGR<http://bgr.com/2016/09/20/iphone-7-headphones-jack-sound-test/>

http://oigel.com/tests-show-iphone-7-with-adapter-sounds-worse-than-iphone-6s-with-3-5mm-headphone-jack-10876999
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Re: Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm headphone jack

2016-09-20 Thread Mary Otten
This article looks like so much Clickbait to me. They make this a big deal and 
then they say, "no dick big deal anyway. So why did they bother writing the 
article?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I ran across the following article:
>  
> Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm 
> headphone jack
> #iPhone7 #iPhone6s – Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than 
> iPhone 6s with 3.5mm headphone jack : With all of the media coverage leading 
> up to and following Apple’s big iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus unveiling, just 
> about everyone on the planet knows at this point that Apple ditched the 
> standard 3.5mm headphone jack. Instead, its latest iPhones include only a 
> Lightning port on the bottom.
> 
> Apple suggests that iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus owners use either wireless 
> headphones or wired headphones with a Lightning connector, like the EarPods 
> Apple included in the box.
> 
> Of course, there’s also a 3.5mm-to-Lightning adapter included with the iPhone 
> 7 series that lets you connect your old 3.5mm headphones with no problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Despite all the steps Apple has taken and despite the popularity of wireless 
> headphones, people still have a number of complaints about Apple’s decision 
> to do away with the 3.5mm audio port on its latest iPhones.
> 
> Some complaints are valid while others are a stretch, but now it looks like a 
> new issue may have been uncovered that no one even realized until now.
> 
> A German magazine has run extensive tests on the audio adapter included in 
> the box with Apple’s new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The magazine’s goal was 
> to determine whether or not there is any sound degradation when using the 
> adapter as compared to the standard 3.5mm audio port on last year’s iPhone 6s.
> 
> While the article is in German and translations have varied a bit on Reddit 
> and on the gadget forum where we the article was first linked, it looks like 
> the tests did in fact find that sound quality is degraded when the adapter is 
> being used.
> 
> A translated quote from the article:
> 
> The results are clear: with an iPhone 6S, the dynamic range worsens by 4.5 
> dB(A) for 24-bit music files. For the iPad Air, it worsens by 3.8 dB(A).
> 
> The signal also gets worse for 16-bit music files, even if they aren’t that 
> drastic: the dynamic range worsens by 1.8 dB(A) and 3.1 dB(A) for the iPhone 
> and iPad, respectively.
> 
> 
> 
> And here’s a chart that shows the full results from the tests:
> 
> 
> 
> Now, before rage overcomes you and you smash your new iPhone 7 against a 
> wall, you should know that these results aren’t terribly troubling.
> 
> Without diving into a technical explanation, the bottom line is that the 
> difference is going to be completely imperceptible to most people. Even 
> audiophiles with an incredible ear for sound won’t notice the difference 
> unless they’re listening to high-quality 24-bit audio files.
> 
> While streaming music through services like Spotify, or while listening to 
> compressed sound files in popular formats like MP3, not even the snobbiest 
> sound snobs out there will be able to tell the difference. Source: BGR
> 
> 
> http://oigel.com/tests-show-iphone-7-with-adapter-sounds-worse-than-iphone-6s-with-3-5mm-headphone-jack-10876999
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Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm headphone jack

2016-09-20 Thread Russ Kiehne
Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm 
headphone jackI ran across the following article:

Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 6s with 3.5mm 
headphone jack
#iPhone7 #iPhone6s – Tests show iPhone 7 with adapter sounds worse than iPhone 
6s with 3.5mm headphone jack : With all of the media coverage leading up to and 
following Apple’s big iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus unveiling, just about everyone 
on the planet knows at this point that Apple ditched the standard 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Instead, its latest iPhones include only a Lightning port on 
the bottom.

Apple suggests that iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus owners use either wireless 
headphones or wired headphones with a Lightning connector, like the EarPods 
Apple included in the box.

Of course, there’s also a 3.5mm-to-Lightning adapter included with the iPhone 7 
series that lets you connect your old 3.5mm headphones with no problem.




Despite all the steps Apple has taken and despite the popularity of wireless 
headphones, people still have a number of complaints about Apple’s decision to 
do away with the 3.5mm audio port on its latest iPhones.

Some complaints are valid while others are a stretch, but now it looks like a 
new issue may have been uncovered that no one even realized until now.

A German magazine has run extensive tests on the audio adapter included in the 
box with Apple’s new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The magazine’s goal was to 
determine whether or not there is any sound degradation when using the adapter 
as compared to the standard 3.5mm audio port on last year’s iPhone 6s.

While the article is in German and translations have varied a bit on Reddit and 
on the gadget forum where we the article was first linked, it looks like the 
tests did in fact find that sound quality is degraded when the adapter is being 
used.

A translated quote from the article:

  The results are clear: with an iPhone 6S, the dynamic range worsens by 4.5 
dB(A) for 24-bit music files. For the iPad Air, it worsens by 3.8 dB(A).

  The signal also gets worse for 16-bit music files, even if they aren’t that 
drastic: the dynamic range worsens by 1.8 dB(A) and 3.1 dB(A) for the iPhone 
and iPad, respectively.




And here’s a chart that shows the full results from the tests:



Now, before rage overcomes you and you smash your new iPhone 7 against a wall, 
you should know that these results aren’t terribly troubling.

Without diving into a technical explanation, the bottom line is that the 
difference is going to be completely imperceptible to most people. Even 
audiophiles with an incredible ear for sound won’t notice the difference unless 
they’re listening to high-quality 24-bit audio files.

While streaming music through services like Spotify, or while listening to 
compressed sound files in popular formats like MP3, not even the snobbiest 
sound snobs out there will be able to tell the difference. Source: BGR


http://oigel.com/tests-show-iphone-7-with-adapter-sounds-worse-than-iphone-6s-with-3-5mm-headphone-jack-10876999

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