Re: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard?
What I tend to do is configure the modifier keys in VoiceOver settings so that I use the capslock key directly above the left shift key. In my experience, that makes a far better VO key. If you use VoiceOver settings to go into practice mode, you can then figure out which keys are which. Hope that's helpful. The K780 is a splendidly good keyboard. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:24 PM Jennie Facer wrote: > Hi, > > You could possibly go look at the Matias keyboards. I have one that has > control on the bottom left, then option and then command right next to the > Spacebar. It does have a num pad though. Not sure if you want one of those. > > Jenn > > Jenn and Kumi > > On Jun 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Fazil wrote: > > > > On Mac, it is second and third and I am looking for the similar bt > keyboard that uses the same combination of keys for VoiceOver that Mac > does. Any recommendations? > > Thanks! > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Richard Turner > *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2020 4:40 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? > > > > Assuming they are the same on the k480, on the row with the space bar, > from left to right, the keys are: > >1. Control, 2. FN, 3. Options, 4. command, 5. spacebar, 6. Command, 7. >Options, 8. left arrow, 9. down arrow, 10. right arrow. > > So the VO combination is the 1st and 3rd keys. > > Or first and 7th key if you want to use the right-hand Options key. > > > > The right side might be different since you have the numpad over there. > > > > > > Richard > > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - > Edward Herbert > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Fazil > *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2020 4:36 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? > > > > Hi, list. > > I would like to know the location of VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 bt > Keyboard, is it second & third keys from the left or second & fourth in the > last row? > > Thanks! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ca345927f37ed4ab94e4b08d81c8520b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290705381815272=Doii118oVKQaMoPJR8fiwJ4ihslYXs%2FkoLiZa5NpEIw%3D=0> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d64e6d%24fc99d4b0%24f5cd7e10%24%40gmail.com > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F001601d64e6d%2524fc99d4b0%2524f5cd7e10%2524%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7Ca345927f37ed4ab94e4b08d81c8520b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290705381825264=SBhQvu6FsgUAfM1WFml8gOzhGWN73zbHOuYRMBfr6rQ%3D=0> > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To u
Re: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard?
Hi, You could possibly go look at the Matias keyboards. I have one that has control on the bottom left, then option and then command right next to the Spacebar. It does have a num pad though. Not sure if you want one of those. Jenn Jenn and Kumi > On Jun 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Fazil wrote: > > > On Mac, it is second and third and I am looking for the similar bt keyboard > that uses the same combination of keys for VoiceOver that Mac does. Any > recommendations? > Thanks! > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:40 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? > > Assuming they are the same on the k480, on the row with the space bar, from > left to right, the keys are: > Control, 2. FN, 3. Options, 4. command, 5. spacebar, 6. Command, 7. Options, > 8. left arrow, 9. down arrow, 10. right arrow. > So the VO combination is the 1st and 3rd keys. > Or first and 7th key if you want to use the right-hand Options key. > > The right side might be different since you have the numpad over there. > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward > Herbert > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:36 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? > > Hi, list. > I would like to know the location of VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 bt > Keyboard, is it second & third keys from the left or second & fourth in the > last row? > Thanks! > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d64e6d%24fc99d4b0%24f5cd7e10%24%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981E0815B428AECC1ED3EE6B76E0%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > ht
Re: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard?
I really do not have any recommendations. The Apple brand keyboards probably use the same keyboard layout, but often cost quite a bit more. Amazon used to make one that was the same layout, but that one is no longer available. Best of luck, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Jun 29, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Fazil wrote: On Mac, it is second and third and I am looking for the similar bt keyboard that uses the same combination of keys for VoiceOver that Mac does. Any recommendations? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? Assuming they are the same on the k480, on the row with the space bar, from left to right, the keys are: 1. Control, 2. FN, 3. Options, 4. command, 5. spacebar, 6. Command, 7. Options, 8. left arrow, 9. down arrow, 10. right arrow. So the VO combination is the 1st and 3rd keys. Or first and 7th key if you want to use the right-hand Options key. The right side might be different since you have the numpad over there. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? Hi, list. I would like to know the location of VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 bt Keyboard, is it second & third keys from the left or second & fourth in the last row? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C827d1523d1d84a07467e08d81c8e2266%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290744065719740=hqi7bGMPehDYzGOWR4SYrzzLmrEQjZDuYyiv9DdmCSc%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d64e6d%24fc99d4b0%24f5cd7e10%24%40gmail.com<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F001601d64e6d%2524fc99d4b0%2524f5cd7e10%2524%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C827d1523d1d84a07467e08d81c8e2266%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290744065739716=5mt50gG5%2BsGTuQBQopwu%2FLFGgaqqGuiMOMsCbFHTHuE%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C827d1523d1d84a07467e08d81c8e2266%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290744065749723=4aamvgMc3eKUf83G%2BNdHKjt%2FIhlzQA8P%2FsrBiG6roR0%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscri
RE: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard?
On Mac, it is second and third and I am looking for the similar bt keyboard that uses the same combination of keys for VoiceOver that Mac does. Any recommendations? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? Assuming they are the same on the k480, on the row with the space bar, from left to right, the keys are: 1. Control, 2. FN, 3. Options, 4. command, 5. spacebar, 6. Command, 7. Options, 8. left arrow, 9. down arrow, 10. right arrow. So the VO combination is the 1st and 3rd keys. Or first and 7th key if you want to use the right-hand Options key. The right side might be different since you have the numpad over there. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? Hi, list. I would like to know the location of VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 bt Keyboard, is it second & third keys from the left or second & fourth in the last row? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ca345927f37ed4ab94e4b08d81c8520b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290705381815272=Doii118oVKQaMoPJR8fiwJ4ihslYXs%2FkoLiZa5NpEIw%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d64e6d%24fc99d4b0%24f5cd7e10%24%40gmail.com <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F001601d64e6d%2524fc99d4b0%2524f5cd7e10%2524%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7Ca345927f37ed4ab94e4b08d81c8520b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290705381825264=SBhQvu6FsgUAfM1WFml8gOzhGWN73zbHOuYRMBfr6rQ%3D=0> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981E0815B428AECC1ED3EE6B76E0%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981E0815B428AECC1ED3EE6B76E0%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on th
RE: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard?
Assuming they are the same on the k480, on the row with the space bar, from left to right, the keys are: 1. Control, 2. FN, 3. Options, 4. command, 5. spacebar, 6. Command, 7. Options, 8. left arrow, 9. down arrow, 10. right arrow. So the VO combination is the 1st and 3rd keys. Or first and 7th key if you want to use the right-hand Options key. The right side might be different since you have the numpad over there. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 4:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard? Hi, list. I would like to know the location of VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 bt Keyboard, is it second & third keys from the left or second & fourth in the last row? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Ca345927f37ed4ab94e4b08d81c8520b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290705381815272=Doii118oVKQaMoPJR8fiwJ4ihslYXs%2FkoLiZa5NpEIw%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d64e6d%24fc99d4b0%24f5cd7e10%24%40gmail.com<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F001601d64e6d%2524fc99d4b0%2524f5cd7e10%2524%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7Ca345927f37ed4ab94e4b08d81c8520b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637290705381825264=SBhQvu6FsgUAfM1WFml8gOzhGWN73zbHOuYRMBfr6rQ%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981E0815B428AECC1ED3EE6B76E0%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 BT Keyboard?
Hi, list. I would like to know the location of VoiceOver Keys on Logitech780 bt Keyboard, is it second & third keys from the left or second & fourth in the last row? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d64e6d%24fc99d4b0%24f5cd7e10%24%40gmail.com.
