Re: Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Dale Eshelman wrote: The short answer is NO But what was the question? I don't see questions in the message you responded to, but there were about four questions in the message before that quoted below. Maybe the short answer was NO to all four of those questions. Mike On Dec 15, 2009, at 08:23 AM, Robin Hill wrote: On Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 05:01:44PM -0600, Peter Bunn wrote: I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution for me, and I have a few questions... Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects? That depends really on what encryption they're using - this doesn't seem to be documented anywhere though. I doubt it'll have quite the same level of rigorous testing as openssh has been through though (unless they're using openssl under the hood anyway). That's unlikely to make any difference for this sort of usage though. Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall? Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method? You'd be best addressing these to the RealVNC support/sales emails. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to run it on a non-standard port though. Running it side-by-side is likely to be problematic though. I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had as backup. With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC likely be noticeably slower than the free version? Shouldn't be - you're trading the ssh encryption overhead for the RealVNC encryption overhead. The alternative is to stick with ssh - you should be able to run openssh server with cygwin, or freeSSHd (www.freesshd.com) is a more user-friendly server. Cheers, Robin -- ___ ( ' } | Robin Hillro...@robinhill.me.uk | / / ) | Little Jim says | // !! | He fallen in de water !! | ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...
I have been using Enterprise Edition for several years and very happy with it. I have not used encryption but other than that it is an excellent product. Although I am still at 4.2.9 version since none of the new features interest me. You can answer most of your questions by downloading a trial version of software and testing it. As far as overhead goes, vnc is using some sort of a block cipher (aes or blowfish, I think) which does not create overhead or creates very little overhead. So using encryption your speed should be the same. One advantage of paid vnc over a free one is mirror driver. Over fast links desktop feels almost like local. On unix though free version is completely adequate. You can try tight vnc which also has mirror driver and should have somewhat better encoding over slow links. Also you could try remote desktop which comes with windows and is pretty good. Alex On 12/10/2009 3:01 PM, Peter Bunn wrote: Hello: For over a year, I've been using RealVNC (free version) through an SSH tunnel to administer my Dad's Windows XP computer from several hundred miles away. Recently, his older machine went south and a new one was purchased for him. I have it mostly restored to the previous setup, but ran into a problem with the SSH program I'd been using... and may want to abandon it. I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution for me, and I have a few questions... Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects? Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall? Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method? I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had as backup. With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC likely be noticeably slower than the free version? Any/all replies welcome and appreciated. Thanks. Peter B. - ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...
The short answer is NO On Dec 15, 2009, at 08:23 AM, Robin Hill wrote: On Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 05:01:44PM -0600, Peter Bunn wrote: I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution for me, and I have a few questions... Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects? That depends really on what encryption they're using - this doesn't seem to be documented anywhere though. I doubt it'll have quite the same level of rigorous testing as openssh has been through though (unless they're using openssl under the hood anyway). That's unlikely to make any difference for this sort of usage though. Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall? Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method? You'd be best addressing these to the RealVNC support/sales emails. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to run it on a non-standard port though. Running it side-by-side is likely to be problematic though. I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had as backup. With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC likely be noticeably slower than the free version? Shouldn't be - you're trading the ssh encryption overhead for the RealVNC encryption overhead. The alternative is to stick with ssh - you should be able to run openssh server with cygwin, or freeSSHd (www.freesshd.com) is a more user-friendly server. Cheers, Robin -- ___ ( ' } | Robin Hillro...@robinhill.me.uk | / / ) | Little Jim says | // !! | He fallen in de water !! | ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list Dale Eshelman eshelm...@gmail.com MonaVie (Distr ID 1316953) http://www.monavie.com/Web/US/en/product_overview.dhtml The closer I get to the pain of glass in Windoz, the farther I can see and I see a Mac on the horizon. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...
On Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 05:01:44PM -0600, Peter Bunn wrote: I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution for me, and I have a few questions... Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects? That depends really on what encryption they're using - this doesn't seem to be documented anywhere though. I doubt it'll have quite the same level of rigorous testing as openssh has been through though (unless they're using openssl under the hood anyway). That's unlikely to make any difference for this sort of usage though. Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall? Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method? You'd be best addressing these to the RealVNC support/sales emails. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to run it on a non-standard port though. Running it side-by-side is likely to be problematic though. I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had as backup. With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC likely be noticeably slower than the free version? Shouldn't be - you're trading the ssh encryption overhead for the RealVNC encryption overhead. The alternative is to stick with ssh - you should be able to run openssh server with cygwin, or freeSSHd (www.freesshd.com) is a more user-friendly server. Cheers, Robin -- ___ ( ' } | Robin Hillro...@robinhill.me.uk | / / ) | Little Jim says | // !! | He fallen in de water !! | ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...
Is the new computer on Windows XP? If so, you should be able to keep on using it as before. There's no reason you would need to switch to the paid version. If the new computer is running Vista or 7, then the free edition won't help you. However, you might want to consider other free alternatives, not only because they would work on the newer OSes, but also, many have video drivers that help out considerably when running thru slow links. (UltraVNC or TightVNC). As far as SSH clients, best option is PuTTy... Peter Bunn wrote: Hello: For over a year, I've been using RealVNC (free version) through an SSH tunnel to administer my Dad's Windows XP computer from several hundred miles away. Recently, his older machine went south and a new one was purchased for him. I have it mostly restored to the previous setup, but ran into a problem with the SSH program I'd been using... and may want to abandon it. I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution for me, and I have a few questions... Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects? Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall? Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method? I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had as backup. With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC likely be noticeably slower than the free version? Any/all replies welcome and appreciated. Thanks. Peter B. - ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...
Hello: For over a year, I've been using RealVNC (free version) through an SSH tunnel to administer my Dad's Windows XP computer from several hundred miles away. Recently, his older machine went south and a new one was purchased for him. I have it mostly restored to the previous setup, but ran into a problem with the SSH program I'd been using... and may want to abandon it. I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution for me, and I have a few questions... Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects? Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall? Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method? I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had as backup. With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC likely be noticeably slower than the free version? Any/all replies welcome and appreciated. Thanks. Peter B. - ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
