Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Their lists are already cleaned by NPA-NXX, it's just not sufficient any more because of LNP. Looks like the TCPA compliance product from Neustar, which someone else posted yesterday, is the best solution. Pretty cheap too. It's just indicates intermodal porting of a number with no other info.

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Paul Timmins
I know a guy who runs a site that sells the npa nxx to carrier type at a fraction of the lerg costs On Aug 19, 2015 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov wrote: > > ‎Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a given TN, an > LRN. Then what? > ‎ > -- > Alex Balashov | Principal | Evarist

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Mary Lou Carey
Nothing as long as companies don't offer both services. Looking up the NPA-NXX of the LRN in LERG 6 would tell you both what the service is and if the NXX is portable. Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Consulting 615-791-9969 > On August 19, 2015 at 1:38 PM Alex Balashov wrote: > > > Mary Lou, > >

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Mary Lou Carey
LERG 6 also has a portable indicator so you can tie into that when you are pulling information from NPAC, but you can also tell somewhat because all 10 thousand blocks of the non-portable blocks are only assigned to one carrier. There are still many rural areas that are not in mandatory pooling a

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Alex Balashov
Mary Lou, What would be wrong with the following approach? 1. Dip call, receive LRN; 2. Look up OCN from LRN in LERG12. 3. Pull carrier by OCN from LERG1, retrieve 'CATEGORY' field. -- Alex -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Kidd Filby
I know there are certain areas around the country that are not portable for a few reasons. One reason is when they are served off of a remote switch, they have elaborate e911 trunking schemes and must remain on that switch to properly function in an isolation-type scenario. Kidd On Wed, Aug 19,

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Mary Lou Carey
It's in LERG 6. NPAC is used to associate the TN to the LRN so it can go to the right carrier. They have no concern what type of call it is other than which databases it should be dipped from. The LERG is the authority on routing so that's the one you'll have to look in. Also, each thousand can b

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Alex Balashov
Thanks, Mary Lou. But does the NPAC have any such fields as well?Incidentally, ‎where are the COCTYPE/SSC/COTYPE fields in the LERG? I was just getting the operator designation from LERG1, and mapping LRNs from LE

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Mary Lou Carey
I am an AOCN and yes the LERG has fields that differentiates between wireline and wireless. There are actually three fields that you could filter by: COCTYPE: Identifies the type of code SSC: Identifies the type of service COTYPE: Identifies the type of carrier Mary Lou Carey BackUP Telecom Con

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Alex Balashov
‎Yeah, poking around metro Atlanta, which is quite pooled, there do seem to be quite a few A block assignments floating around.

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread James Milko
It could be anytime the *LEC still has the entire A block. As far as how common it is I can't really say. My cell phone and childhood phone number are both native routed. Wireline: http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_prefix.php?npa=732&nxx=363 Wireless: http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_pre

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Alex Balashov
‎Aren't 95%+ rate centres pooled these days? If so, they'd still have LRNs, since LRN-guided routing is a requirement of pooling. So, who still has non-pooled 10K blocks? Is that common in metro, or largely a trai

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread James Milko
NPAC has a service type field that indicates wireless/wireline. That doesn't solve for native numbers though since they won't have LRN data since they don't have LRNs. I don't remember offhand if LERG has a wireless/wireline indication for a given [A]OCN or block. James Milko Architect, Network

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Alex Balashov
‎Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a given TN, an LRN. Then what? ‎ -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920 (toll-free) / +1-678-954-0671 (direct) Web: http://www.evari

Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

2015-08-19 Thread Kidd Filby
If I were to offer this service or database access, I would start with my own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every X-minutes a day. This product is available now and has been for a while. This is the only sure-way, I know of, to have the most accurate data to work from. Kidd On Tue, Aug 18,