Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread John R Levine 

That's a bit hard to parse but it appears to also say, "set aside for toll
free" = NO


Sigh.  If you match up the columns, it says ASSIGNABLE No, Explanation Set 
aside for toll free, RESERVED No, Assigned No.



NANPA's own announcement confirms 886 (and 889) was eliminated from toll
free pool in 2001 and released back to unused inventory in 2003-
https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/PL_329.pdf


I think you should read that letter.  It wasn't in the toll-free pool.


NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES"
886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll 
free,No,No,,N,,,N"",No,,,Toll-FreeNo,No""


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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Jared Geiger 
Thanks for the info. I'm sure why the codes started popping up in at least
5 Tier 1 International rate decks about 6 months ago. At least now I know
why they exist.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:02 AM Paul Timmins 
wrote:

> 11xx codes are a pulse dial substitute for the matching *xx code. so 1167
> sets the privacy flag just like *67 does. They're not dialable outside of a
> class 5 end user.
>
> (12xx replaces the #)
>
>
> --
> *From:* VoiceOps  on behalf of Jared
> Geiger 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 1:51 PM
> *To:* VoiceOps
> *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886
>
> Semi related:
>
> Depending on the International vendor, I see the codes 108, 109, 1129,
> 1139, 1171, 1172, 1173, 1178 being claimed as either valid codes in Canada
> or the US. I haven't found much information on them but I believe they are
> special in Canada dial codes for certain services and would likely never
> complete if a call originated outside of the country.
>
> Watch out for those in ratesheets if your customers dial the 011 prefix
> for an International call, it may confuse your LCR/rating engine.
>
> ~Jared
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:09 AM John R Levine  wrote:
>
>> > I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from
>> TF reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere
>> as a new code.
>>
>> If that is the case, you should tell NANPA.  I just downloaded their NPA
>> database, dated today.  It says:
>>
>>
>> NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES"
>> 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll
>> free,No,No,,N,,,N"",No,,,Toll-FreeNo,No""
>>
>> R's,
>> John
>>
>>
>> >> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article > aazodf_9-eqevho93w-dw...@mail.gmail.com> you write:
>> >>> Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes
>> where
>> >>> in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a
>> new
>> >>> area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
>> >>
>> >> You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
>> >>
>> >> It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
>> >> confused.
>> >>
>> >> A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
>> >> international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
>> >> they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
>> >> away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free
>> >> expansion.___
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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Paul Timmins 
11xx codes are a pulse dial substitute for the matching *xx code. so 1167 sets 
the privacy flag just like *67 does. They're not dialable outside of a class 5 
end user.

(12xx replaces the #)



From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Jared Geiger 

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 1:51 PM
To: VoiceOps
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

Semi related:

Depending on the International vendor, I see the codes 108, 109, 1129, 1139, 
1171, 1172, 1173, 1178 being claimed as either valid codes in Canada or the US. 
I haven't found much information on them but I believe they are special in 
Canada dial codes for certain services and would likely never complete if a 
call originated outside of the country.

Watch out for those in ratesheets if your customers dial the 011 prefix for an 
International call, it may confuse your LCR/rating engine.

~Jared

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:09 AM John R Levine 
mailto:jo...@taugh.com>> wrote:
> I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF 
> reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a 
> new code.

If that is the case, you should tell NANPA.  I just downloaded their NPA
database, dated today.  It says:

NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES"
886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll 
free,No,No,,N,,,N"",No,,,Toll-FreeNo,No""

R's,
John


>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine 
>> mailto:jo...@taugh.com>> wrote:
>>
>> In article 
>> mailto:aazodf_9-eqevho93w-dw...@mail.gmail.com>>
>>  you write:
>>> Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where
>>> in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new
>>> area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
>>
>> You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
>>
>> It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
>> confused.
>>
>> A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
>> international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
>> they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
>> away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free
>> expansion.___
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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Jared Geiger 
Semi related:

Depending on the International vendor, I see the codes 108, 109, 1129,
1139, 1171, 1172, 1173, 1178 being claimed as either valid codes in Canada
or the US. I haven't found much information on them but I believe they are
special in Canada dial codes for certain services and would likely never
complete if a call originated outside of the country.

Watch out for those in ratesheets if your customers dial the 011 prefix for
an International call, it may confuse your LCR/rating engine.

~Jared

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:09 AM John R Levine  wrote:

> > I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF
> reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as
> a new code.
>
> If that is the case, you should tell NANPA.  I just downloaded their NPA
> database, dated today.  It says:
>
>
> NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES"
> 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll
> free,No,No,,N,,,N"",No,,,Toll-FreeNo,No""
>
> R's,
> John
>
>
> >> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine  wrote:
> >>
> >> In article  aazodf_9-eqevho93w-dw...@mail.gmail.com> you write:
> >>> Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes
> where
> >>> in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a
> new
> >>> area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
> >>
> >> You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
> >>
> >> It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
> >> confused.
> >>
> >> A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
> >> international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
> >> they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
> >> away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free
> >> expansion.___
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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Brandon Svec 
That's a bit hard to parse but it appears to also say, "set aside for toll
free" = NO

NANPA's own announcement confirms 886 (and 889) was eliminated from toll
free pool in 2001 and released back to unused inventory in 2003-
https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/PL_329.pdf



On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:08 AM John R Levine  wrote:

> > I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF
> reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as
> a new code.
>
> If that is the case, you should tell NANPA.  I just downloaded their NPA
> database, dated today.  It says:
>
>
> NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES"
> 886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll
> free,No,No,,N,,,N"",No,,,Toll-FreeNo,No""
>
> R's,
> John
>
>
> >> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine  wrote:
> >>
> >> In article  aazodf_9-eqevho93w-dw...@mail.gmail.com> you write:
> >>> Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes
> where
> >>> in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a
> new
> >>> area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
> >>
> >> You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
> >>
> >> It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
> >> confused.
> >>
> >> A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
> >> international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
> >> they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
> >> away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free
> >> expansion.
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[VoiceOps] Production STIR/SHAKEN

2020-07-24 Thread Paul Timmins 
Is anyone but T-Mobile and Comcast (and now us) doing STIR/SHAKEN right now and 
want to make test calls? We're on Inteliquent if that helps.

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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread John R Levine 

I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF 
reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a 
new code.


If that is the case, you should tell NANPA.  I just downloaded their NPA 
database, dated today.  It says:


NPA_ID,type_of_code,ASSIGNABLE,EXPLANATION,RESERVED,ASSIGNED,ASSIGNMENT_DT,USE,LOCATION,COUNTRY,IN_SERVICE,IN_SERVICE_DT,STATUS,PLANNING_LETTERS,"NOTES",OVERLAY,OVERLAY_COMPLEX,PARENT_NPA_ID,SERVICE,TIME_ZONE,AREA_SERVED,MAP,IN_JEOPARDY,RELIEF_PLANNING_IN_PROGRESS,HOME_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,HOME_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_LOCAL_CALLS,FOREIGN_NPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_LOCAL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_TOLL_CALLS,PERM_HNPA_FOREIGN_LOCAL_CALLS,"DIALING_PLAN_NOTES"
886,General Purpose Code,No,Set aside for toll 
free,No,No,,N,,,N"",No,,,Toll-FreeNo,No""

R's,
John



On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine  wrote:

In article 
 you write:

Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where
in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new
area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.


You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/

It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
confused.

A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Brandon Svec 
Reference for 886 being available: https://www.nationalnanpa.com/pdf/PL_329.pdf


> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Brandon Svec  wrote:
> 
> I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF 
> reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a 
> new code. 
> 
> -bjs 
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine  wrote:
>>> 
>> In article 
>>  you 
>> write:
>>> Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where
>>> in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new
>>> area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
>> 
>> You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
>> 
>> It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
>> confused.
>> 
>> A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
>> international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
>> they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
>> away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free
>> expansion.
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Brandon Svec 
I think you misread that 886 is reserved for TF. It was released from TF 
reservation in 2003 and us currently unassigned so could pop up anywhere as a 
new code. 

-bjs 

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:22 AM, John Levine  wrote:
> 
> In article 
>  you 
> write:
>> Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where
>> in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new
>> area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
> 
> You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/
> 
> It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
> confused.
> 
> A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
> international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
> they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
> away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free
> expansion.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread John Levine 
In article  
you write:
>Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where
>in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new
>area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.

You can check the definitive NANPA list at https://nationalnanpa.com/

It says that 886 is reserved for toll-free expansion. Your vendor is
confused.

A long time ago, codes 880, 881, and 882 were used for paid
international calls to North American 800, 888, and 877 numbers, so
they might be telling you a garbled version of that. That hack went
away 15 years ago and those codes are now also reserved for toll-free
expansion.

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Re: [VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Ivan Kovacevic 
My go to site for Canadian Numbering

http://www.cnac.ca/co_codes/co_code_status.htm

On Fri., Jul. 24, 2020, 5:57 a.m. Dovid Bender,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where
> in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new
> area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.
>
> TIA.
>
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[VoiceOps] Area code 886

2020-07-24 Thread Dovid Bender 
Hi,

Does anyone know if area code 886 was allocated to Canada and if yes where
in Canada? We were just told by an international vendor that it is a new
area code in Canada yet I can't find anything on it.

TIA.

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