Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-10 Thread Mary Lou Carey
It was done in a series of phases that ended in July 2018. See the link below: https://www.dwt.com/insights/2011/11/intercarrier-compensation-reformsphasedown-of-term MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796- On 2020-12-08 02:56 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:

Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-10 Thread Mary Lou Carey
That's a good point. It depends on whether you're in a metropolitan area or a very rural area where there's no local tandem. In most LATAs where AT and Verizon are the main ILEC, the small ILECs will use the ILEC tandem to pick up traffic. But there are a lot of the rural areas (especially in

Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-09 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "John Levine" To: voiceops@voiceops.org Cc: voice...@ics-il.net Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:25:27 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-09 Thread John Levine
In article <1038462169.17163.1607448901620.JavaMail.mhammett@Thunderfuck2> you write: >My operating theory is that if it's on the same tandem switch, I might as well >treat it as local. If only. At my rural ILEC, the next town up is a remote from the switch in my town but for historical

Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-08 Thread Alex Balashov
On 12/8/20 1:48 PM, Mary Lou Carey wrote: No one can bill end office switching now When and how did this come to pass? It was my understanding that the problem with taking a more expansive view of LCAs than the ILEC led precisely to this problem; you'd be paying switched access on calls to

Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-08 Thread Mary Lou Carey
Its safe to treat anything in the same tandem area as local. No one can bill end office switching now so having it associated with the correct tandem is the only thing that matters anyways. MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796- On 2020-12-08 11:52

Re: [VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-08 Thread Paul Timmins
Local calling areas are defined in the CLEC tariff filed with the state. Most CLECs mirror the ILEC local calling areas. Check your tariffs to see what the PUC approved you to do. On 12/8/20 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Is there any legal definition as to what constitutes local calls? I

[VoiceOps] Definition: Local Calls

2020-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Is there any legal definition as to what constitutes local calls? I know that Local Calling Guide reports on what the ILECs treat as local, but I don't know if there's anything that is requiring me to have the same definition. My operating theory is that if it's on the same tandem