Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
of that too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Peter Beckman" To: "VoiceOps" Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:15:16 PM Subject: [V

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-14 Thread Calvin Ellison
The FCC announced the proposed universal service contribution factor for the third quarter of 2021 will be 31.8%, down from the previous quarter’s 33.4%. https://www.neca.org/docs/default-source/wwpdf/public/da21676.pdf Calvin Ellison Systems Architect calvin.elli...@voxox.com The

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Ed Guy
Peter, > Where did your understanding come from? My info could now be called 'Myth' - I've been out of the retail business for about 9 years. For cellular in US, we had to keep track of originating party jurisdiction, terminating party jurisdiction, and any O/T cells involved. Then the tax

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett
ld support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Alex Balashov" To: voiceops@voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:29:08 PM Subject: Re: [V

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Alex Balashov
On 6/10/21 4:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: $3.19 is right around 24% of 33.4% of $39.95. Maybe Comcast's traffic studies show that 24% of phone traffic is interstate, so that's the amount that gets the USF charge? It had been my impression that the FCC rather particularly insisted on a small

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett
://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Matthew Yaklin" To: "Peter Beckman" , "Ed Guy" Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:07:53 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 A comcast business package looks like

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Matthew Yaklin
: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come from? I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about $160 of it was just t

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Peter Beckman
Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come from? I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about $160 of it was just the monthly fee for 4 plans). Does anyone

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Ed Guy
What service features of the service are subject to USF? is it only charged on retail land-line replacement or at multiple levels as a value-add? My understanding is that cellular services do not pay USF ( but, when we had a cell company several years ago, all taxes were outsourced..)

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Alex Balashov
That, and, while I am not at all an expert on what can and can't be recovered from customers, it was my impression that not 100% of USF can be passed on. On 6/10/21 1:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that is not variable and not

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Carlos Alvarez
Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that is not variable and not padded with 20 lines of fees and taxes. Because our ILEC is known for quoting $100 and billing $130-150 actual price. On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:38 AM Paul Timmins wrote: > On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Matthew Crocker
I tell my customers to complain to their congress critter if they don’t like the 33% tax on the services. It’s for the children after all…. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins Date: Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 12:38 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Paul Timmins
On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex Balashov wrote: Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service provider, I'm a little shocked to say the least. It's hard to understand where that kind of money is supposed to come from with the margins in this business. -- Alex Passthru fees to the end

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread mgraves mstvp . com
vp.com<mailto:mgra...@mstvp.com> o: (713) 861-4005 c: (713) 201-1262 sip:mgra...@mjg.onsip.com From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Alex Balashov Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 11:25 AM To: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 I’m not sure there’s a clear path of reasoning fr

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Alex Balashov
mett > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 10:24 AM > To: Peter Beckman > Cc: VoiceOps > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 > > NOTE: This is an external message. Please use caution when replying, opening > attachments or clicking on any links in this e-mail. > &

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Alex Balashov
On 6/10/21 12:15 AM, Peter Beckman wrote: Um. Wow. This is crazy. Why is it 33.4%??? 2 years ago it was 18.8%. This is DOUBLE! Will it stop increasing? Go back down? Are we doomed? Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service provider, I'm a little shocked to say the least. It's

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Kili Land
day, June 10, 2021 10:24 AM To: Peter Beckman Cc: VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 NOTE: This is an external message. Please use caution when replying, opening attachments or clicking on any links in this e-mail. Slush. Fund. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Soluti

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Slush. Fund. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Peter Beckman" To: "VoiceOps" Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:15:16 PM Sub

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Paul Timmins
On 6/10/21 11:11 AM, Joseph Jackson wrote: Is that a bad thing? -Original Message- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 10:07 AM To: Adam Moffett; VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 It feels

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Joseph Jackson
Is that a bad thing? -Original Message- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 10:07 AM To: Adam Moffett; VoiceOps Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 It feels like every year, I see some elementary school

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Carlos Alvarez
-- > From: "Peter Beckman" > To: "VoiceOps" > Sent: 6/10/2021 12:15:16 AM > Subject: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 > > >Um. Wow. This is crazy. Why is it 33.4%??? > > > >2

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Paul Timmins
: 6/10/2021 12:15:16 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021 Um. Wow. This is crazy. Why is it 33.4%??? 2 years ago it was 18.8%. This is DOUBLE! Will it stop increasing? Go back down? Are we doomed? Beckman --- Pe

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Adam Moffett
% Q2 2020 – 19.6% Q1 2020 – 21.2% Q4 2019 – 25.0% Q3 2019 – 24.4% Q2 2019 – 18.8% Q1 2019 – 20.0% Q4 2018 – 20.1% Q3 2018 – 17.9% Q2 2018 – 18.4% -- Original Message -- From: "Peter Beckman" To: "VoiceOps" Sent: 6/10/2021 12:15:16 AM Subject: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4%

Re: [VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-10 Thread Dovid Bender
I don't want to make this political but so long as we accept it and pay it, it wont go down. If more people started asking questions and demanded to understand why it kept going up then maybe there would be accountability. On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:21 AM Peter Beckman wrote: > Um. Wow. This is

[VoiceOps] USF is 33.4% for 2Q2021

2021-06-09 Thread Peter Beckman
Um. Wow. This is crazy. Why is it 33.4%??? 2 years ago it was 18.8%. This is DOUBLE! Will it stop increasing? Go back down? Are we doomed? Beckman --- Peter Beckman Internet