Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam?
I had built a system not so long ago that tracked day over day traffic from my network by destination NPA/NXX and was able to pinpoint this sort of thing by simply looking for seismic deviations from the norm (volume or cost). Sure we would get occasional false positives when a new customer with a really specific marketing business might turn up, but it really wasn't hard to build and resulted in a good measure of safety from a backstop perspective. We just used the systems output to focus manual investigations, not to power an automated system. Too much risk in automating domestic traffic cutoffs. FWIW we were an end-user network, not a wholesale network so we didnt get the random sampling that wholesalers might which would likely have changed some of the knobs on my selected criteria. On 6/17/2019 7:20 PM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: I am not sure if this is feasible for someone to do easily so I do not bother you too much... but does anyone have a spreadsheet of the nanp npa-nxx(s) you keep a very close eye on for fraud? I am not sure how well we keep an eye on such things here. I would like to explore it more. Naturally we keep an very close watch on international and brute force attacks. Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. *From:* VoiceOps on behalf of Robert Dawson *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2019 7:18:43 PM *To:* Paul Timmins; Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Interesting that you haven’t really seen that much domestic . . . I’d say that domestic fraud accounts for at least 40% of the attempts we have seen over the last year or so, with another 40% to NANP “island” destinations (DR in particular) and the remaining to international. Definitely different than a few years back when almost everything was to African destinations. The fraudsters are very smart and evolve over time, always have to be vigilant! *From: *Paul Timmins *Date: *Monday, June 17, 2019 at 6:48 PM *To: *Robert Dawson , Paul Timmins , "voiceops@voiceops.org" *Subject: *RE: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? I can just augment my existing one we developed in house easily enough. But the new behavior that's concerning is hacked endpoints calling the numbers. I'm used to "traffic pumping" being free services people actually want leveraging arbitrage, but attracting fraudulent traffic from hacked handsets isn't something I've ever seen on domestic traffic before. Bold, since it implies there's revenue share, and federal law can reach a tribe in a way that the usual banana republic telco fraud in the 3rd world can't. -Paul *From:*VoiceOps [voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] on behalf of Robert Dawson [rdaw...@alliedtelecom.net] *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2019 6:25 PM *To:* Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Jumping in on this one late – Pine Ridge is most well-known for the Ogala Lakota reservation that is located there. Numbers are in fact owned by Native American Telecom which is tribally owned and has had traffic pumping charges levelled against them as someone else mentioned. Payday lenders have used tribal law for years to get around usury laws, there was one company that was charging something like 900% effective interest. Repayment on a $10k loan was something like $75k. Wondering if they can somehow skirt Federal telecom law too? Paul, you are 100% correct – any fraud detection system that is only looking at International destinations would not pick it up . . . you definitely need something that can, at a minimum, be configured to look at call velocity and volume to US destinations. I can make a recommendation if you are interested. Rob *From: *VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins *Date: *Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 4:54 PM *To: *Matthew Yaklin , "voiceops@voiceops.org" *Subject: *Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Yeah, what makes it notable in this case is it seems like it's dead air calls and hacked phones like traditional international fraud, not free conference call services. On 5/29/19 4:16 PM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: Nevermind.. you meant interstate calling fraud detection systems I assume. Sorry. Please ignore me. I just reread again. *Matthew Yaklin* Network Engineer *FirstLight* 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801
Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam?
I can confirm we’ve seen fraud to this NPANXX also on our carrier network. In our case, a customer PBX was hacked and all of their call paths were filled with never-ending calls to random numbers in this exchange. In our case also, all calls answered with dead air. The calls stayed up until we killed them. Most LD companies don’t seem to terminate to this exchange at all, but Level 3 did for a high price. That was expensive; we had assumed that the FCC’s ICC reform had done away with high-cost domestic destinations. We block this NPANXX now, and have never had a complaint about it being blocked. Mike Ray, MBA, CNE, CTE Astro Companies, LLC 11523 Palm Brush Trail #401 Lakewood Ranch, FL 34202 DIRECT: call or text 941 600-0207 <http://www.astrocompanies.com/> http://www.astrocompanies.com From: VoiceOps On Behalf Of Robert Dawson Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 6:25 PM To: Paul Timmins ; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Jumping in on this one late – Pine Ridge is most well-known for the Ogala Lakota reservation that is located there. Numbers are in fact owned by Native American Telecom which is tribally owned and has had traffic pumping charges levelled against them as someone else mentioned. Payday lenders have used tribal law for years to get around usury laws, there was one company that was charging something like 900% effective interest. Repayment on a $10k loan was something like $75k. Wondering if they can somehow skirt Federal telecom law too? Paul, you are 100% correct – any fraud detection system that is only looking at International destinations would not pick it up . . . you definitely need something that can, at a minimum, be configured to look at call velocity and volume to US destinations. I can make a recommendation if you are interested. Rob From: VoiceOps mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org> > on behalf of Paul Timmins mailto:p...@timmins.net> > Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 4:54 PM To: Matthew Yaklin mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> >, "voiceops@voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org> " mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org> > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Yeah, what makes it notable in this case is it seems like it's dead air calls and hacked phones like traditional international fraud, not free conference call services. On 5/29/19 4:16 PM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: Nevermind.. you meant interstate calling fraud detection systems I assume. Sorry. Please ignore me. I just reread again. Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net <mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> | www.firstlight.net <http://www.firstlight.net> This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. _ From: VoiceOps <mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org> on behalf of Matthew Yaklin <mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 4:14:02 PM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Paul, Why do you mention international toll fraud when that is an area code and exchange for Pine Ridge South Dakota? And just imagining how small that company must be wouldn't a logical guess be more like they just messed up in some fashion? But in your defense that telecom company is fishy and Sprint tried to sue them. I am not sure what ended up happening. Typical crap with free conf stuff and having traffic sent to a high cost area... Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net <mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> | www.firstlight.net <http://www.firstlight.net> This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. _ From: VoiceOps <mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org> on behalf of Paul Timmins <mailto:p...@timmins.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:50:35 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org> Subject: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Is anyone else seeing lots of long duration calls to the 605-562 exchange that when you dial the respective number, it supervises to dead air? Seems like a new kind of toll fraud that international fraud detection s
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To be fair with our aggressive fraud controls and our honeypots that are linked to our DDoS control system that nullroute SIP scanners, etc we don't see fraud much at all (it used to hit us a LOT, but we slow down scanners quite a bit), and most of what we do catch is speedruns toward NGNs and high cost prefixes in G20 nations these days just like the olden days. Less East Timor, more UK NGNs. Some Caribbean fraud but not a ton.Beyond this reservation telco, I'm with Matt, if there's bad actors out there in the US let's throw out some OCNs and we can build up high risk destinations.On Jun 17, 2019 19:18, Robert Dawson wrote: Interesting that you haven’t really seen that much domestic . . . I’d say that domestic fraud accounts for at least 40% of the attempts we have seen over the last year or so, with another 40% to NANP “island” destinations (DR in particular) and the remaining to international. Definitely different than a few years back when almost everything was to African destinations. The fraudsters are very smart and evolve over time, always have to be vigilant! From: Paul Timmins Date: Monday, June 17, 2019 at 6:48 PM To: Robert Dawson , Paul Timmins , "voiceops@voiceops.org" Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? I can just augment my existing one we developed in house easily enough. But the new behavior that's concerning is hacked endpoints calling the numbers. I'm used to "traffic pumping" being free services people actually want leveraging arbitrage, but attracting fraudulent traffic from hacked handsets isn't something I've ever seen on domestic traffic before. Bold, since it implies there's revenue share, and federal law can reach a tribe in a way that the usual banana republic telco fraud in the 3rd world can't. -Paul From: VoiceOps [voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] on behalf of Robert Dawson [rdaw...@alliedtelecom.net] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 6:25 PM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Jumping in on this one late – Pine Ridge is most well-known for the Ogala Lakota reservation that is located there. Numbers are in fact owned by Native American Telecom which is tribally owned and has had traffic pumping charges levelled against them as someone else mentioned. Payday lenders have used tribal law for years to get around usury laws, there was one company that was charging something like 900% effective interest. Repayment on a $10k loan was something like $75k. Wondering if they can somehow skirt Federal telecom law too? Paul, you are 100% correct – any fraud detection system that is only looking at International destinations would not pick it up . . . you definitely need something that can, at a minimum, be configured to look at call velocity and volume to US destinations. I can make a recommendation if you are interested. Rob From: VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 4:54 PM To: Matthew Yaklin , "voiceops@voiceops.org" Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Yeah, what makes it notable in this case is it seems like it's dead air calls and hacked phones like traditional international fraud, not free conference call services. On 5/29/19 4:16 PM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: Nevermind.. you meant interstate calling fraud detection systems I assume. Sorry. Please ignore me. I just reread again. Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Matthew Yaklin Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 4:14:02 PM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Paul, Why do you mention international toll fraud when that is an area code and exchange for Pine Ridge South Dakota? And just imagining how small that company must be wouldn't a logical guess be more like they just messed up in some fashion? But in your defense that telecom company is fishy and Sprint tried to sue them. I am not sure what ended up happening. Typical crap with free conf stuff and having traffic sent to a high cost area... Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete
Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam?
I am not sure if this is feasible for someone to do easily so I do not bother you too much... but does anyone have a spreadsheet of the nanp npa-nxx(s) you keep a very close eye on for fraud? I am not sure how well we keep an eye on such things here. I would like to explore it more. Naturally we keep an very close watch on international and brute force attacks. Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Robert Dawson Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 7:18:43 PM To: Paul Timmins; Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Interesting that you haven’t really seen that much domestic . . . I’d say that domestic fraud accounts for at least 40% of the attempts we have seen over the last year or so, with another 40% to NANP “island” destinations (DR in particular) and the remaining to international. Definitely different than a few years back when almost everything was to African destinations. The fraudsters are very smart and evolve over time, always have to be vigilant! From: Paul Timmins Date: Monday, June 17, 2019 at 6:48 PM To: Robert Dawson , Paul Timmins , "voiceops@voiceops.org" Subject: RE: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? I can just augment my existing one we developed in house easily enough. But the new behavior that's concerning is hacked endpoints calling the numbers. I'm used to "traffic pumping" being free services people actually want leveraging arbitrage, but attracting fraudulent traffic from hacked handsets isn't something I've ever seen on domestic traffic before. Bold, since it implies there's revenue share, and federal law can reach a tribe in a way that the usual banana republic telco fraud in the 3rd world can't. -Paul From: VoiceOps [voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] on behalf of Robert Dawson [rdaw...@alliedtelecom.net] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 6:25 PM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Jumping in on this one late – Pine Ridge is most well-known for the Ogala Lakota reservation that is located there. Numbers are in fact owned by Native American Telecom which is tribally owned and has had traffic pumping charges levelled against them as someone else mentioned. Payday lenders have used tribal law for years to get around usury laws, there was one company that was charging something like 900% effective interest. Repayment on a $10k loan was something like $75k. Wondering if they can somehow skirt Federal telecom law too? Paul, you are 100% correct – any fraud detection system that is only looking at International destinations would not pick it up . . . you definitely need something that can, at a minimum, be configured to look at call velocity and volume to US destinations. I can make a recommendation if you are interested. Rob From: VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 4:54 PM To: Matthew Yaklin , "voiceops@voiceops.org" Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Yeah, what makes it notable in this case is it seems like it's dead air calls and hacked phones like traditional international fraud, not free conference call services. On 5/29/19 4:16 PM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: Nevermind.. you meant interstate calling fraud detection systems I assume. Sorry. Please ignore me. I just reread again. Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net<mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> | www.firstlight.net<http://www.firstlight.net> This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps <mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org> on behalf of Matthew Yaklin <mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 4:14:02 PM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Paul, Why do you mention international toll fraud when that is an area code and exchange for Pine Ridge South Dakota? And just imagining how small that company must be wouldn't a logical guess be more like
Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam?
Jumping in on this one late – Pine Ridge is most well-known for the Ogala Lakota reservation that is located there. Numbers are in fact owned by Native American Telecom which is tribally owned and has had traffic pumping charges levelled against them as someone else mentioned. Payday lenders have used tribal law for years to get around usury laws, there was one company that was charging something like 900% effective interest. Repayment on a $10k loan was something like $75k. Wondering if they can somehow skirt Federal telecom law too? Paul, you are 100% correct – any fraud detection system that is only looking at International destinations would not pick it up . . . you definitely need something that can, at a minimum, be configured to look at call velocity and volume to US destinations. I can make a recommendation if you are interested. Rob From: VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 4:54 PM To: Matthew Yaklin , "voiceops@voiceops.org" Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Yeah, what makes it notable in this case is it seems like it's dead air calls and hacked phones like traditional international fraud, not free conference call services. Report This Email<https://shared.outlook.inky.com/report?id=YWxsaWVkdGVsZWNvbS90d2ViYkBhbGxpZWR0ZWxlY29tLm5ldC8xNmZlM2Y2Y2ExZjhlOGY0MWNiZTc3NGFhZWFmNWViNS8xNTU5MTYzMjY4LjU3#key=a6e58de17f79cb436fb6a8de1903c45b> Yeah, what makes it notable in this case is it seems like it's dead air calls and hacked phones like traditional international fraud, not free conference call services. On 5/29/19 4:16 PM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: Nevermind.. you meant interstate calling fraud detection systems I assume. Sorry. Please ignore me. I just reread again. Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net<mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> | www.firstlight.net<https://shared.outlook.inky.com/link?domain=www.firstlight.net=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eJxVj1FLwzAUhf9LnstWOgeuT6K4vqwZuLYhYVDS5c6ku6kjSdei-N-N4ss4j-fj8J0vMjokOdEhXPPj8ricpmlxNs4HNO86LAYIJCEBpDUqYhLRgAqAcPqwv4V2IEOLcIO4kibkj-Js9pI1F1U0XjB66w6bVGWN4Zdn3RXzVbC3VLAZebYJO7tG9fI4UyuwzHjM6yx6jfuCpyWjRlSnFS22WrCtpawx9BDZql6XFf8se_6w6-tVFDFDADfIKHGW6CEhowfXgpUGW6mUA--jWJig657uTvw_3NckH0bE7x8pe14I.MEYCIQDBUkbZVVYIyjYcaQ2KsyXkbdP6zkKTS9f4rhdhCTREsgIhAJzUxaR_DVNCkLjxMbfdowwodXsQsw6Mf6StGvmkM8cU> This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps <mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org> on behalf of Matthew Yaklin <mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 4:14:02 PM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Paul, Why do you mention international toll fraud when that is an area code and exchange for Pine Ridge South Dakota? And just imagining how small that company must be wouldn't a logical guess be more like they just messed up in some fashion? But in your defense that telecom company is fishy and Sprint tried to sue them. I am not sure what ended up happening. Typical crap with free conf stuff and having traffic sent to a high cost area... Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net<mailto:myak...@firstlight.net> | www.firstlight.net<https://shared.outlook.inky.com/link?domain=www.firstlight.net=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eJxVj1FLwzAUhf9LnstWOgeuT6K4vqwZuLYhYVDS5c6ku6kjSdei-N-N4ss4j-fj8J0vMjokOdEhXPPj8ricpmlxNs4HNO86LAYIJCEBpDUqYhLRgAqAcPqwv4V2IEOLcIO4kibkj-Js9pI1F1U0XjB66w6bVGWN4Zdn3RXzVbC3VLAZebYJO7tG9fI4UyuwzHjM6yx6jfuCpyWjRlSnFS22WrCtpawx9BDZql6XFf8se_6w6-tVFDFDADfIKHGW6CEhowfXgpUGW6mUA--jWJig657uTvw_3NckH0bE7x8pe14I.MEYCIQDBUkbZVVYIyjYcaQ2KsyXkbdP6zkKTS9f4rhdhCTREsgIhAJzUxaR_DVNCkLjxMbfdowwodXsQsw6Mf6StGvmkM8cU> This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps <mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org> on behalf of Paul Timmins <mailto:p...@timmins.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:50:35 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org> Subject: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Is anyone else seeing lots of long duration calls to the 605-562
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Yeah, what makes it notable in this case is it seems like it's dead air calls and hacked phones like traditional international fraud, not free conference call services. On 5/29/19 4:16 PM, Matthew Yaklin wrote: Nevermind.. you meant interstate calling fraud detection systems I assume. Sorry. Please ignore me. I just reread again. *Matthew Yaklin* Network Engineer *FirstLight* 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net /This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed/ /not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended/ /to waive any applicable privileges./ *From:* VoiceOps on behalf of Matthew Yaklin *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2019 4:14:02 PM *To:* Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Paul, Why do you mention international toll fraud when that is an area code and exchange for Pine Ridge South Dakota? And just imagining how small that company must be wouldn't a logical guess be more like they just messed up in some fashion? But in your defense that telecom company is fishy and Sprint tried to sue them. I am not sure what ended up happening. Typical crap with free conf stuff and having traffic sent to a high cost area... *Matthew Yaklin* Network Engineer *FirstLight* 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net /This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed/ /not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended/ /to waive any applicable privileges./ *From:* VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:50:35 PM *To:* voiceops@voiceops.org *Subject:* [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Is anyone else seeing lots of long duration calls to the 605-562 exchange that when you dial the respective number, it supervises to dead air? Seems like a new kind of toll fraud that international fraud detection systems won't catch. -Paul ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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we got hit with many 100k's from a few users. its a really expensive npa nxx. free conf call type of service. On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 3:51 PM Paul Timmins wrote: > Is anyone else seeing lots of long duration calls to the 605-562 > exchange that when you dial the respective number, it supervises to dead > air? > > Seems like a new kind of toll fraud that international fraud detection > systems won't catch. > > -Paul > > ___ > VoiceOps mailing list > VoiceOps@voiceops.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops > ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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Nevermind.. you meant interstate calling fraud detection systems I assume. Sorry. Please ignore me. I just reread again. Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Matthew Yaklin Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 4:14:02 PM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Paul, Why do you mention international toll fraud when that is an area code and exchange for Pine Ridge South Dakota? And just imagining how small that company must be wouldn't a logical guess be more like they just messed up in some fashion? But in your defense that telecom company is fishy and Sprint tried to sue them. I am not sure what ended up happening. Typical crap with free conf stuff and having traffic sent to a high cost area... Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:50:35 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Is anyone else seeing lots of long duration calls to the 605-562 exchange that when you dial the respective number, it supervises to dead air? Seems like a new kind of toll fraud that international fraud detection systems won't catch. -Paul ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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Paul, Why do you mention international toll fraud when that is an area code and exchange for Pine Ridge South Dakota? And just imagining how small that company must be wouldn't a logical guess be more like they just messed up in some fashion? But in your defense that telecom company is fishy and Sprint tried to sue them. I am not sure what ended up happening. Typical crap with free conf stuff and having traffic sent to a high cost area... Matthew Yaklin Network Engineer FirstLight 359 Corporate Drive │ Portsmouth, NH 03801 Mobile 603-845-5031 myak...@firstlight.net | www.firstlight.net This email may contain FirstLight confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are directed not to read, disclose or otherwise use this transmission and to immediately delete same. Delivery of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privileges. From: VoiceOps on behalf of Paul Timmins Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:50:35 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: [VoiceOps] 605-562 - Arbitrage scam? Is anyone else seeing lots of long duration calls to the 605-562 exchange that when you dial the respective number, it supervises to dead air? Seems like a new kind of toll fraud that international fraud detection systems won't catch. -Paul ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
