Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic

2021-07-03 Thread Mike Hammett
I did mean for my outbound 8YY calls. 


It was my understanding that I didn't have a cost for that traffic, just that I 
was forfeiting some amount of revenue. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Mary Lou Carey"  
To: "Paul Timmins"  
Cc: "Mike Hammett" , "voiceops"  
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 12:45:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic 

I was just commenting on what the trunks would accept..not whether 
its cost or time effective to save the 8YY dips so you point it to a 
cheaper route. 

MARY LOU CAREY 
BackUP Telecom Consulting 
Office: 615-791-9969 
Cell: 615-796- 

On 2021-07-01 04:44 PM, Paul Timmins wrote: 
> How would you go about determining if a toll free number is intralata 
> or not? 
> 
> - 
> 
> From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Mary Lou 
> Carey  
> Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 5:31 PM 
> To: Mike Hammett 
> Cc: voiceops 
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic 
> 
> You should be able to route 8YY traffic over both but only IntraLATA 
> 8YY 
> traffic over the Local IntraLATA trunk group. 
> 
> MARY LOU CAREY 
> BackUP Telecom Consulting 
> Office: 615-791-9969 
> Cell: 615-796- 
> 
> On 2021-07-01 10:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
>> Is there any reason I can't throw all 8YY traffic at my IXC tandem? 
>> 
>> In looking in my Metaswitch config, it appears that only 8YY traffic 
>> destined for my LATA (which doesn't really make any sense) goes to 
> the 
>> tandem. Everything else goes out to a domestic termination provider. 

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Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic

2021-07-02 Thread Mary Lou Carey
I was just commenting on what the trunks would accept..not whether 
its cost or time effective to save the 8YY dips so you point it to a 
cheaper route.


MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-

On 2021-07-01 04:44 PM, Paul Timmins wrote:

How would you go about determining if a toll free number is intralata
or not?

-

From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Mary Lou
Carey 
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 5:31 PM
To: Mike Hammett
Cc: voiceops
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic

You should be able to route 8YY traffic over both but only IntraLATA
8YY
traffic over the Local IntraLATA trunk group.

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-

On 2021-07-01 10:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Is there any reason I can't throw all 8YY traffic at my IXC tandem?

In looking in my Metaswitch config, it appears that only 8YY traffic
destined for my LATA (which doesn't really make any sense) goes to

the

tandem. Everything else goes out to a domestic termination provider.

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Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic

2021-07-02 Thread Mike Hammett
*shrugs* I didn't build it. 


That's also why I said it didn't make any sense. To me, no traffic would match 
being 8YY *AND* to this ratecenter, at least from my perspective. Therefore, 
that rule would never apply. 


That said, toll-free dipping is a new concept to me that I'll have to read up 
about. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Paul Timmins"  
To: voiceops@voiceops.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 11:10:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic 


On 7/1/21 11:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Is there any reason I can't throw all 8YY traffic at my IXC tandem? 


In looking in my Metaswitch config, it appears that only 8YY traffic destined 
for my LATA (which doesn't really make any sense) goes to the tandem. 
Everything else goes out to a domestic termination provider. 




How does your switch know that the 8YY in question is destined for your LATA? I 
mean, you have to provide a valid path in the LATA for the CICs that might come 
back based on your source TN, like if you're calling from NPA 248, you should 
have that sent somewhere in LATA 340 in case the SMS/800 has a specific cutout 
for various LATAs to use certain CICs (for example, I use Inteliquent's FGD 
code in areas where Inteliquent has built it out, but not in other LATAs where 
Inteliquent hasn't built out, so dipping LATA 340 (Detroit) and then 
terminating the call to a local tandem in rural idaho isn't going to work 
well!) 


That's the only caveat I'm aware of you need to concern yourself with - that 
the CICs returned from your toll free dip are going to be valid for the tandem 
you are connected to, more or less. 

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Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic

2021-07-01 Thread Paul Timmins
How would you go about determining if a toll free number is intralata or not?



From: VoiceOps  on behalf of Mary Lou Carey 

Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 5:31 PM
To: Mike Hammett
Cc: voiceops
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic

You should be able to route 8YY traffic over both but only IntraLATA 8YY
traffic over the Local IntraLATA trunk group.

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-

On 2021-07-01 10:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Is there any reason I can't throw all 8YY traffic at my IXC tandem?
>
> In looking in my Metaswitch config, it appears that only 8YY traffic
> destined for my LATA (which doesn't really make any sense) goes to the
> tandem. Everything else goes out to a domestic termination provider.

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Re: [VoiceOps] 8YY Traffic

2021-07-01 Thread Mary Lou Carey
You should be able to route 8YY traffic over both but only IntraLATA 8YY 
traffic over the Local IntraLATA trunk group.


MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-

On 2021-07-01 10:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Is there any reason I can't throw all 8YY traffic at my IXC tandem?

In looking in my Metaswitch config, it appears that only 8YY traffic
destined for my LATA (which doesn't really make any sense) goes to the
tandem. Everything else goes out to a domestic termination provider.

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