Re: [volt-nuts] Batch of old reference zeners

2014-03-10 Thread Andreas Jahn
Hello Bob, the instrument will be your least worries. with 20-80ppm/K you will need a very well stabilized (0.1K) temperature environment for the references. Otherwise you will not detect ageing but the temperature of your environment. A volt nut would only use the LM329 from the list

Re: [volt-nuts] Batch of old reference zeners

2014-03-10 Thread M K
Hi, I have an 8.5 digit wavetek, and a bunch of Solartron and wavetek 7.5 digit meters, but it seems to me that doing justice to the 329 references is going to need stable wirewound or foil resistors, and a few months will be only just long enough. MK On 10/03/2014 07:12, Andreas Jahn

Re: [volt-nuts] Batch of old reference zeners

2014-03-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 9 Mar 2014 23:39, Jan Fredriksson j...@41hz.com wrote: I have a batch of voltage references ICs on the shelf, several thousand of each type. They all have date codes of around 1983, ie 30 years old. It would be great to have some drift data on them. Since you have so many, it would be

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A

2014-03-10 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Thomas wrote: If I send a 732A to Fluke and have it calibrated, and you stop by with yours shortly after mine returns, has a day or so to settle, and appear correct with my 3458A, you could then calibrate your 732A using of mine and feel fairly confident you standard is also a few PPM from

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A

2014-03-10 Thread Charles Steinmetz
I have to side with Tom on this one. Accreditation only provides independant verifcation of processess and proceedures. It provides increased confidence (in both the human and statistical senses) in the service provided. It does not prove that your standard is correct. Documentation and

Re: [volt-nuts] fluke 332d and 732a... volt-nuts Digest, Vol 55, Issue 11

2014-03-10 Thread Chuck Harris
Aging is beneficial because it allows a part to physically relax into a shape that is appropriate for the way it is being operated... So, if a zener is going to be operated with no bias current, and at room temperature, sitting on a shelf for 30 years might be a plus... But not so much if the

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A

2014-03-10 Thread Tom Knox
Charles thanks for an engaging dialog, I think we generally agree, but have different interpretations of several words. I see calibration as a set of rules and procedures that a group has agreed upon, that when followed will allow tractability and repeatability to an agreed upon standard. And

[volt-nuts] fluke 332D

2014-03-10 Thread Ken Goodhew
Hi gang, Thanks for the suggestions as to what type of calibrator to get. I mostly want a stable precision variable voltage reference for what I do, but a current/ ac voltage / resistance standard would be nice, so I can definitely see this being addictive! I have already found that