Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-23 Thread acbern
Randy, I have replaced batteries in two units so far, which I bought on ebay (6V) and they fitted absolutelly perfect, no need to rework an metal and there was o isue with shortages. So there certainly are standard 6V batteries that fit without mods. I always try to keep things in original

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A drift

2014-08-23 Thread acbern
Randy, that is strange. two things come in mind that might be worth checking. first, is the mains frequency setting of the 3458a set to 60Hz (I assume you are in the US)? this is important to suppress mains ac disturbing the measurement. secondly, have you connected guard? tsp cables would be

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A drift

2014-08-23 Thread Todd Micallef
Randy, I looked at the 3458a input impedance, and it is difficult to get the meter set to the FixedZ (10M) mode. However, the 100v range is 10M. It should default to HiZ on reset. I forgot to mention to check the outputs and guard resistance to ground. One of my 732a had some foam baffling

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A drift

2014-08-23 Thread Todd Micallef
The output impedance of both the 1v outputs is ~1k ohm. I wonder if Randy could check the 3458a input impedance with a 10M ohm resistor and the 10v output of the 732a. I was thinking that the 732a needed a minimum battery voltage to allow the in cal led to turn on with the short to the Lo

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A drift

2014-08-23 Thread Todd Micallef
Never mind. I tested it myself. You should be able to get the in cal led working without batteries. Todd On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Todd Micallef tmical...@gmail.com wrote: The output impedance of both the 1v outputs is ~1k ohm. I wonder if Randy could check the 3458a input impedance

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A drift

2014-08-23 Thread J. L. Trantham
I think the 'IN CAL' LED has to do with a 'minimum voltage' but I don't think it has to with a minimum battery voltage. When you remove the battery pack, with the unit plugged in, I don't think the 'IN CAL' LED goes out. Otherwise, you would never be able to swap battery packs. Joe

[volt-nuts] 732A vs. 3458A stability

2014-08-23 Thread Frank Stellmach
Hello Randy, your stability measurements of 732A versus 3458A depend on the integration time. It is not possible that way to distinguish, which of both instruments contribute more noise. For NPLC 100, you may expect around 0.1ppm noise, i.e 1µV/10V, at NPLC 1000, maybe 0.01ppm. (mains

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-23 Thread Bill Gold
Randy: I get 6 volt 4 amp/hr (or 4.5 amp/hr) batteries and they will fit perfect. Power Sonic PS-640, Genesis NP4-6, Panasonic LC-R064R5C and others that are in this size and package. Order from one of the usual electronics distributors like Allied, Mouser, Digikey. This is a very common

Re: [volt-nuts] HP3458A CAL ram data dumper program

2014-08-23 Thread Charles Black
Hi Mark, I had success using your HP3458.exe on my HP3458A! I just backed up my CAL data a few minutes ago. I have been interested in doing a backup for several years but kept putting off buying the GPIB to USB adapter. I have been using a NI GPIB-ENET/100 for some years now and so your