Re: [volt-nuts] EU3458A - what appears to be a 3458A for sales in the European Union only

2018-05-15 Thread Dr. Frank
In message <7862525b-4879-0c7c-c13a-9a6c1f4a3...@freenet.de>, "Dr. Frank" write s: Up to then, it was easy to buy and insert four 62256 SRAMs and get the 01 option for maybe 30€. I've done that directly in 1989, for my first 3458A @ university, later in 2009 for my o

[volt-nuts] 3458A memory extension

2018-05-15 Thread Dr. Frank
It's still there, 03458-88810 Prgmd Pal-1819-0239 For 001, costs 31.83€. The official upgrade costs 698€. Somebody in another forum explained, that this PAL is all you need. Frank ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

[volt-nuts] EU3458A - what appears to be a 3458A for sales in the European Union only

2018-05-15 Thread Dr. Frank
Hello David, the 3458A is not offered any more by the usual distributors here in Germany, like datatec or Meilhouse. That's due to EU:RoHS directive , i.e. leadfree soldering is required, and the last exemption for 'measuring and displaying devices' ran out as of July 2017. So KS found a

[volt-nuts] What's the probability of a random used 3458A passing a Keysight calibration?

2018-01-16 Thread Dr. Frank
Surely the AC errors if any must be associated with the A2 AC Convertor board - 03458-66502? >> Dave Why should this be a hardware error??? It's much much more probable, that this is a natural drift phenomenon. This is 'as found' and the 'as left' report is missing, that would tell the

[volt-nuts] What's the probability of a random used 3458A passing a Keysight calibration?

2018-01-16 Thread Dr. Frank
I also saw this, so at least, they will have adjusted this range. Yes you're right, the ADC is the A3 board. I confused that with the A5 controller board, which is the only one which had been redesigned to SMT components. There's no chance to identify a refurbished or replaced board, other

[volt-nuts] What's the probability of a random used 3458A passing a Keysight calibration?

2018-01-16 Thread Dr. Frank
David, that instrument on ebay is definitely from the agilent area, i.e. built after 2000. It is really ok, and does not need any repair. Obviously, this AC range is a bit outside calibration @ 3V, 4MHz, but that is normal after some years w/o adjustment, and not a defect at all. Probably

[volt-nuts] Unable to zero 3420B on 10**5 sensitivity

2017-11-13 Thread Dr. Frank
David, I've thought a bit further about this excessive offset  of at least 8µV. That could be simply due to excessive offset of the DC amplifier part of the meter amplifier, caused by ageing, i.e. drifted resistors or faulty elctrolytics. The chopper has about 5000x ac gain, due to

[volt-nuts] HP-3458A NVRAM

2017-11-12 Thread Dr. Frank
Randy, 'quarks' is another volt-nuts companion. His instrument is from 1989, and we both changed all nvSRAMs in our 3458As. The complete designations are: DS1220AD-150+ and DS1230Y-150+. If the 1230 battery fails, you will get failure messages on booting the 3458A, and your stored settings

[volt-nuts] 3420B chopper drive problem

2017-11-07 Thread Dr. Frank
Another probable error in the manual, on page 5-8 (80), diagram, which shows the monitoring of the neon currents: That diagram is ok for the A-version, as both neon currents are measured with the same polarity in its oscillator circuit. The B-version anyhow should look different, as the

[volt-nuts] 3420B chopper drive problem

2017-11-07 Thread Dr. Frank
Hello Dave, in the schematic, the polarity of the diodes in series with the neon bulbs is definitely wrong. If you compare with the 3420A on page 7-7 (29), but also with the Fluke 845 which is similar, both neons have to be switched at 180°. Maybe someone else has erroneously reversed one