Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-15 Thread acbern
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Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? - 3458A

2014-06-14 Thread J. L. Trantham
27;s history. Good luck. Joe -Original Message- From: volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of R.Phillips Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:00 AM To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or k

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-14 Thread R.Phillips
considering the cost of a new instrument. Best regards. Roy -Original Message- From: J. L. Trantham Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 1:48 AM To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? Roy, The tool needed to adjust the 7

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-13 Thread J. L. Trantham
t to make sure they are 'in range' and stable rather than trying to 'adjust' them each time they might go in for 'cal'. Hope this helps. Good luck. Joe -----Original Message- From: volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Charles

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-12 Thread Charles Black
"Discussion of precise voltage measurement" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? Roy, The 732A uses the 3059Y-1-101 type cermet pot for the 10V adjustment. You can use a simple plastic tweaking tool for adjustment. I believ

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-12 Thread Bill Gold
t sometimes it is better just to leave things alone and just use the known offset from 10 volts when checking or doing cals. Bill - Original Message - From: "Todd Micallef" To: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:20 AM Sub

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-12 Thread R.Phillips
ld be affected by any adjustment. Roy -Original Message- From: Todd Micallef Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:20 PM To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? Roy, The 732A uses the 3059Y-1-101 type cermet pot for the 10V adjus

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-12 Thread Todd Micallef
; Roy Phillips. > > > -Original Message- From: J. L. Trantham > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:09 PM > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? > > Charles, > > What size batterie

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-06-12 Thread R.Phillips
J. L. Trantham Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:09 PM To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? Charles, What size batteries did you use for your external pack and where are you located? In other words, how long can your e

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-10 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Joe wrote: What size batteries did you use for your external pack and where are you located? In other words, how long can your external battery pack 'survive' keeping the 732A 'hot'? Is the external pack recharged at Fluke or does it have to make a round trip on the initial charge? We're all

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread T . Micallef
Michael, Do you know when the 3457A battery was last replaced? Hopefully it was annotated somewhere, but with all the talk about batteries, the one inside the 3457A should probably be checked too. Todd ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Chuck Harris
That's not what the regs said last time I looked. You can carry a few in your carry-on, inside, or outside of your laptop. There are limits related to watt-hour capacity, though I don't remember what they are. -Chuck Harris David C. Partridge wrote: You can ship a Li-Ion or Li-Po battery insi

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Tom Knox
information on shipping Li-Ion and it appears the 732A batteries are right on the edge of no shipping restriction. Thomas Knox > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 23:56:19 + > From: vn...@toneh.demon.co.uk > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return i

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Bill Gold
like the oven temperature control circuits are working correctly. I hope the above helps you in determining if you keep the unit or send it back. Bill - Original Message - From: "J. L. Trantham" To: "'Michael Hong'" ; "'Discussion of precise voltag

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Tony
__ From: David C. Partridge To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2014, 22:04 Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? You can ship a Li-Ion or Li-Po battery inside a laptop no problem, but not on its own. No it doesn'

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Tom Miller
batteries for professional-grade audio/visual equipment. Most lithium-ion batteries are below this size. - Original Message - From: "Chuck Harris" To: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [vol

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Robert Atkinson
. Partridge To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2014, 22:04 Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? You can ship a Li-Ion or Li-Po battery inside a laptop no problem, but not on its own. No it doesn't make sense except to the

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread J. L. Trantham
Charles, What size batteries did you use for your external pack and where are you located? In other words, how long can your external battery pack 'survive' keeping the 732A 'hot'? Is the external pack recharged at Fluke or does it have to make a round trip on the initial charge? Once I am conv

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Robert Atkinson
p. Robert G8RPI From: Tom Miller To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2014, 16:12 Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? If you change to Li-Ion, you give up the ability to ship by air or at least carry it in any passenger aircraft. You mi

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread David C. Partridge
gards, David Partridge -Original Message- From: volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris Sent: 08 March 2014 21:36 To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? Surely that isn&#

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Surely that isn't true... otherwise laptop computers and cell phones wouldn't be allowed on board passenger aircraft. A laptop computer's battery would greatly exceed the power in the original 732A battery pack. -Chuck Harris Tom Miller wrote: If you change to Li-Ion, you give up the ability t

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Tom Miller
lts nominal. Regards, Tom - Original Message - From: "Tom Knox" To: "Discussion of precise voltage measurement" Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? In my humble opinion your are best off first check

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Thomas wrote: In my humble opinion your are best off first checking for a local Cal Lab with a Josephson Junction Array Voltage Standard. What you need is a cal lab that is accredited under the NIST NVLAP program (or possibly by A2LA) and that has a DC source calibration uncertainty certifie

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Joe wrote: Do you wind up having to re-solder some of the battery wires in the battery module in order to use the 12 V 5 AH batteries or will they just swing to the other side since it appears that the (+) and (-) terminals will wind up on the same side, instead of opposite sides with the 6 V 4.

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Tom Knox
t-nuts@febo.com > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 07:50:55 -0600 > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? > > Charles, > > Thanks for the info on batteries. I agree, some are definitely better than > others. However, I'm no 'connoisseur' of batteries y

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread J. L. Trantham
Charles, Thanks for the info on batteries. I agree, some are definitely better than others. However, I'm no 'connoisseur' of batteries yet. The 732A I got was 'unknown working condition' and I wanted the cheapest batteries I could find to test the unit and see if I could get it up and running.

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 8 Mar 2014 05:57, "Charles Steinmetz" wrote: > > Michael wrote: > >> The battery is big concern to me. When I called Fluke, one of the rep said it should be shipped to them "hot" Because 732A's battery life is very limited, it should be shipped using Morning Service. I was going to call FedEx i

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Michael wrote: The battery is big concern to me. When I called Fluke, one of the rep said it should be shipped to them "hot" Because 732A's battery life is very limited, it should be shipped using Morning Service. I was going to call FedEx if they have 12 hours service. And I belive most cal

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Michael wrote: I received a Fluke 732A yesterday which was purchased from an eBay seller. * * * (1) Which one is wrong the DMM or 732A? As others have said, you have no way to tell with what you have. I note that the seller's 34401A read the 10v output as 10.0004v, pretty consi

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread J. L. Trantham
re going to keep it. Joe -Original Message- From: volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hong Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:22 PM To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it? Thank you all for your concerns. I will

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread Michael Hong
Thank you all for your concerns. I will reply out of order, sorry. IN CAL right came on as I poked(turned) with a slim screw driver. Yes, I know it supposed to be on after calibration. AC PWR light turned and stayed on ever since I plugged in the main yesterday. When I pulled out the main plug

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread T . Micallef
Michael, I would start with what is the easiest to test. If you look inside the "Reset" hole and do not see a bare metal contact behind the hole, there is missing hardware. I can look inside one of mine and I can see it with no problem. You only need a short piece of stripped wire to touch between

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread J. L. Trantham
y a magnifier. I used a length of 12 ga. copper wire with one end flattened to make a screwdriver. Good luck. Joe -Original Message- From: volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hong Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 6:19 PM To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subje

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Michael, I agree with Orin, you do not have the ability, on hand, to verify the 732A. If you have the manual, try seeing if the Acceptance procedure (page 4-8) gives reasonable results. Are there any stickers that indicate what the thermister value should be ? Keep in mind that it is a

Re: [volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread Orin Eman
Best I can tell, the 3457A 1 year spec is 0.0040% of reading + 19 counts for 6.5 digits on the 30V scale, 100PLC, cal temp +/- 5 deg C. Your 10.00036 V reading is therefore +/- 0.00059 V. I'd say you can't really tell with the 3457A whether the 732A is close or not. Orin. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 a

[volt-nuts] A Fluke 732A: Return it or keep it?

2014-03-07 Thread Michael Hong
Hi nuts, This is my first message. Just reading the posted messages is a big learning to me so I didn't post but instead trying to read all. Here is my issue. I received a Fluke 732A yesterday which was purchased from an eBay seller. (1) I plugged in and started measuring the 3 voltages and th