Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
Bill, I have convinced myself that the problem I an seeing is due to thermals. If I move the cables (with gold-plated banana plugs) using a small towel rather than letting my hand touch the plugs, it is much more stable. If I then hold the banana plug with my hand after the reading has

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Todd Micallef
Bill, I use a lot of the 12v 7ah batteries for my UPS backups and 732B. But yes, I was mistaken. The 12V 5ah batteries are the ones that I am using in one of my 732A. There is more play inside the tray with the 12v batteries by several mm as compared to the 6v which only has a 2-3mm. The 12v

[volt-nuts] Looking for Datron 4000 series calibration key!

2014-08-24 Thread Chris
Would anyone have a spare key I could purchase? I understand that you can simple bypass the key with a shorting switch, but I am trying to keep my setup looking as authentic as possible. Thanks! ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [volt-nuts] Looking for Datron 4000 series calibration key!

2014-08-24 Thread Todd Micallef
Chris, Where do you live? I just had some keys made last week for my Datron units. The first set fit my 4000A and 1071, but they did not fit my 4700. The 4000A key looked more like the pictures online, but the 4700 was completely different. Someone may have rekeyed or damaged the lock on the

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Charles Black
Bill, I have never been able to use banana plugs of any kind, with my 3458A, due to their excessive thermal mass. I use 24 gauge wires to make a twisted pair by hand with no connectors for precision voltage work. As brought out in an earlier post by acbern, it doesn't matter about plating or

Re: [volt-nuts] Looking for Datron 4000 series calibration key!

2014-08-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CALwLtXwi-mABsNta=rohet9d6b4nyn9vft6bbwzy20vdqsq...@mail.gmail.com , Todd Micallef writes: Please notice that when you read the HP3458A over GPIB you get a slightly higher precision due to more decimals being presented, than you do on the display. If you are measuring down

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Don@True-Cal
Randy all, You have correctly concluded that some (maybe not all) of your measurement problem is thermal EMF being added or subtracted in series within your measurement interconnect. This thermal EMF is generated at the junction of dissimilar metals when accompanied with thermal gradients

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Bill Gold
Todd: I check the batteries every month per the 732A manual. Usually I keep a few used cells from previous packs around that seem to be ok after checking them for capacity just like checking the battery pack. I can usually spot cells going bad with that method. If I don't have a spare set

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Bill Gold
Randy: The MATH function is accessible from the keypad. I don't have an IEEE interface right now that works. You can also program the numeric keypad keys to have preprogrammed functions. DEFKEY I have made my own low thermal measurement leads from Pomona #4892 banana plugs and Belden

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
Bill, Thanks for the MATH overview. That could be very helpful. I definately will give it a try. Randy On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Bill Gold wpgold3...@att.net wrote: Todd: I check the batteries every month per the 732A manual. Usually I keep a few used cells from previous

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
Bill, I am trying to figure out the MATH function without much success. The 3458 On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Bill Gold wpgold3...@att.net wrote: Randy: The MATH function is accessible from the keypad. I don't have an IEEE interface right now that works. You can also program the

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Randy Evans
Bill, I am trying to figure out the MATH function without much success. I input the sequence you said (I looked up the instructions to understand what you did - seems logical), BLUE DEFKEY BLUE F1 MATH 14;NRDGS 40;TRIG 4;TRIG; and it shows up on the display when I input BLUE F1. I hit ENTER and

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Charles Black
Hi Randy, You can use the NPLC command to change the A/D converter's'integration time. Set it to 1000 if you want full resolution. It sets the hp3458a's NMR. Charlie On 8/24/2014 6:04 PM, Randy Evans wrote: Bill, I am trying to figure out the MATH function without much success. I input

Re: [volt-nuts] 732A and Prologix received

2014-08-24 Thread Orin Eman
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Don@True-Cal truecalservi...@gmail.com wrote: Randy all, You have correctly concluded that some (maybe not all) of your measurement problem is thermal EMF being added or subtracted in series within your measurement interconnect. This thermal EMF is generated