[volt-nuts] What makes a HP3458A so expensive

2014-01-16 Thread Attila Kinali
. So, what makes the HP3458A so expensive? Attila Kinali -- I pity people who can't find laughter or at least some bit of amusement in the little doings of the day. I believe I could find something ridiculous even in the saddest moment, if necessary. It has nothing to do

Re: [volt-nuts] Buying HP-3458A

2014-07-06 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin moin, On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 10:45:51 +0200 acb...@gmx.de wrote: so for me, since I am also calibrating the unit myself, I would be very much interested in how you calibrate the 3458 and what you use as calibration standard. Attila Kinali -- I pity people who can't

Re: [volt-nuts] The averaging reference

2014-12-22 Thread Attila Kinali
). Attila Kinali -- I pity people who can't find laughter or at least some bit of amusement in the little doings of the day. I believe I could find something ridiculous even in the saddest moment, if necessary. It has nothing to do with being superficial. It's a matter of joy in life

Re: [volt-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread Attila Kinali
an listing of various circuits with little explanation how to arrive on these circuits and how to design those in. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use

Re: [volt-nuts] The Art of Electronics

2015-04-17 Thread Attila Kinali
. They really did a good job of introducing various circuits and how successfully build them if you don't have any professional equipment. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication

Re: [volt-nuts] Building a high resolution DAC

2015-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
will not worry about tempco until the fundamental problem is solved :-) Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation

Re: [volt-nuts] Building a high resolution DAC

2015-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:16:05 +0200 Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: I have been pondering how to build a high resolution DAC over the weekend. Something like [1] but has the disadvantage of needing a pair of resistors that have a 1:2^16 ratio. The 1M/15.4R is kind of unwieldy. Fidling

[volt-nuts] Building a high resolution DAC

2015-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
calibrate something like this? Or am I missing something fundamental here? Thanks in advance Attila Kinali [1] DC-accurate 32-bit DAC achieves 32-bit resolution, by Stephen Woodward, 2008 -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All

Re: [volt-nuts] Building a high resolution DAC

2015-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:28:10 +0200 Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@gmail.com wrote: Best to ask volt-nuts? I thought this was volt-nuts? ;-) Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological

Re: [volt-nuts] Building a high resolution DAC

2015-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
of surprised that the charge injection of the MAX4053 does not kill a lot of the performance. At least i don't see any way how it would cancel somewhere. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological

[volt-nuts] Why discrete JFET differential pair before opams?

2015-08-29 Thread Attila Kinali
. But in [1], the LSK389 has a specified max input leakage of 200pA while the LTC6241 has 75pA. Could someone be so kind and enlighten me, why a JFET diff pair makes sense in such applications? Attila Kinali [1] 40nVpp Noise, 0.05uV/°C Drift, Chopped FET Amplifier, by Jim

Re: [volt-nuts] Why discrete JFET differential pair before opams?

2015-08-29 Thread Attila Kinali
p-p (0.1Hz to 10Hz). Thanks! Attila Kinali -- I must not become metastable. Metastability is the mind-killer. Metastability is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my metastability. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when

Re: [volt-nuts] Making a Reference IC

2015-09-29 Thread Attila Kinali
his application), Why would this be a mistake? Attila Kinali -- Reading can seriously damage your ignorance. -- unknown ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/

Re: [volt-nuts] Wanted - UK source of a replacement battery (type LX 1634) for HP 3457A 6.5 digit multimeter

2016-01-24 Thread Attila Kinali
with a delivery service. Alternatively, you can try to find a local electronics distributor that has them. Attila Kinali -- Reading can seriously damage your ignorance. -- unknown ___ volt-nuts mailing l

Re: [volt-nuts] low emf solder

2016-10-29 Thread Attila Kinali
audiophool grade is really that pure). I have no idea how much the EMF of the impurities is. Attila Kinali -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-n

Re: [volt-nuts] Low-cost Josephson Junction Array

2016-10-19 Thread Attila Kinali
, none of these systems need a PhD to use. Even though the theory behind them is quite complicated and involves some heavy math and physics, their use is pretty straight forward (at least for a quantum physical system). Attila Kinali [1] http://www.wmi.badw.de/teac

[volt-nuts] How to keep voltage stable in the sub-100nV range?

2016-11-01 Thread Attila Kinali
se and how to deal with that. What I am interested in are the real world problems, how big they actually are and how to deal with them. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in

Re: [volt-nuts] How to keep voltage stable in the sub-100nV range?

2016-11-01 Thread Attila Kinali
the electronics can support" :-) But the signal will be slowly moving, so settling time will not be that much of an issue, as long as the signal level can be kept stable. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity

Re: [volt-nuts] How to keep voltage stable in the sub-100nV range?

2016-11-01 Thread Attila Kinali
t and a chain of opamps and low pass filters feeds > >it to the consuming device. The absolute value and drift over more > >than 10-100s is not that important. > > What range of voltages are we talking about ? The DAC will probably output 0-3V or 0-5V, final output will be 0-5V

Re: [volt-nuts] How to keep voltage stable in the sub-100nV range?

2016-11-01 Thread Attila Kinali
lter with 100Hz-1kHz bandwidth? Attila Kinali -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. ___ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [volt-nuts] How to keep voltage stable in the sub-100nV range?

2016-11-02 Thread Attila Kinali
pacitors: be carefull and quick when handsoldering. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson,

Re: [volt-nuts] PCB Artist

2016-12-19 Thread Attila Kinali
nt libraries. Schematics and layouts of circuits that are more than a couple of years old are only worth as a reference for the new design. New devices come so quickly that a design done 5 years ago would look very different if done today. And often with better performance and cheaper too.

Re: [volt-nuts] HP3458 ADC integrator

2018-02-23 Thread Attila Kinali
a bit low, but then, the opamp is old. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Mathe

Re: [volt-nuts] HP3458 ADC integrator

2018-02-23 Thread Attila Kinali
to be to increase amplification and slewrate. I guess that can be said about the HP3458 as well, but that begs the question why did they chose a 3 opamp structure? And why are U2 and U3 wired up the way they are? Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that

Re: [volt-nuts] HP3458 ADC integrator

2018-02-23 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:31:47 +0100 Attila Kinali <att...@kinali.ch> wrote: > And why are U2 and U3 wired up the way they are? Let me expand here a little bit to make it clear what puzzles me. The HP3458 circuit uses 3 opamps: LT1001, LM6361 and AD848. The LT1001 is there for its low i

[volt-nuts] HP3458 ADC integrator

2018-02-23 Thread Attila Kinali
, this is because I replaced the LM6361 and AD848 by the LT1225 but do not understand why, or respectively, which of the differing parameters of the LT1225 causes this oscillations. Would someone be so kind and give me some hints? Thanks in advance Attila Kinali

Re: [volt-nuts] FW: HP3458 ADC integrator

2018-02-23 Thread Attila Kinali
rator during reset. But I don't understand why the integrator has been done that way. U111 seems redundant when adding U112. It feels like I am missing a key point in what changes in SR and GBW when connecting two opamps. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualitie

Re: [volt-nuts] HP3458 ADC integrator

2018-02-27 Thread Attila Kinali
guess that should imediatly be obvious once a complete stability analyis is done. Thanks everyone who provided insight and feedback. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication

[volt-nuts] LM3900 (was: HP3458 ADC integrator)

2018-03-01 Thread Attila Kinali
nput current is not exceeded. Linear has a few opamps that can do the same trick (though in a slightly different manner), but they also cost a bit more. Attila Kinali -- The bad part of Zurich is where the degenerates throw DARK choc