Re: [Vo]: FW: [Vo]: [OT] Nature Solves Own Problems

2006-06-30 Thread thomas malloy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This is the second publication from a scientist I have seen today trying to completely debunk Cold Fusion as relegated to the dust bin of history, I wonder who is paying for this misinformation to be fed to the uninitiated and unschooled general public!

[Vo]: Cudos to Jed Rothwell

2006-06-30 Thread thomas malloy
I just wanted to take time to compliment Jed Rothwell on his letter to Parksie. Jed, you the man. It just tickles me when someone tells the old devil off. Your post on the increasing instability of C F cells with increasing power was a necessary, but not too pleasant reality check on any

[Vo]: Have you measured O and H? Asking for decades...

2006-06-30 Thread john herman
Dear Vo., I STILL have not read ANY measure of O and H released from cold fusion. Anyone can answer??? This is YEARS of asking the question. On 6/29/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell Michel Jullian wrote: No

[Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-30 Thread Michel Jullian
Hi Jones, my comments inserted below. Thanks in the name of all the non-native English speakers here for keeping your posts concise like the one I am responding to. Michel, This is most inconvenient, as I still do not get the email from you via vortex, so I am having to go back and forth

[Vo]: Re: Riemann Closed Circles and Strings

2006-06-30 Thread TP Sparber
Everyone should have a stack of these around somewhere. Close to the one version of String Theory "Disks or Energy Loops" model of the Positron and Electron and how they can form stacks to build Mesons and Baryons. http://www.indiana.edu/~minimal/maze/riemann.html

Re: [Vo]: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kyle R. Mcallister feels frustrated that no one responded to this message. I sympathize; no doubt he put a lot of effort into it, but I suppose people do not feel qualified to discuss the issue. I certainly cannot judge the chemistry, but I can address the last sentence: Is there actually

[Vo]: Re: Riemann Closed Circles and Strings

2006-06-30 Thread Jones Beene
No doubt you noticed that the image to the right - the so-called degenerate example - is where one can see **two helicoids developing** Ahem... Proto-DNA ??? or ... for a proper title, from the de-generate comes the gene-erator It stands to reason that - as a way of creating maximum

[Vo]: Another Meyer?

2006-06-30 Thread hohlrauml6d
United States Patent 7,041,203 Sullivan May 9, 2006 - --- Apparatus and method for generating and using multi-direction DC and AC electrical currents Abstract Multi-directional currents are generated in a medium by

Re: [Vo]: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread TP Sparber
Jed Rothwell wrote, Kyle R. Mcallister feels frustrated that no one responded to this message. I sympathize; no doubt he put a lot of effort into it, but I suppose people do not feel qualified to discuss the issue. I certainly cannot judge the chemistry, but I can address the last

[Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread hohlrauml6d
From: Sparber    There was an algae farm experiment near Roswell, NM when nearby oil was  really cheap, Aliens  contaminated it. :-)        That explains how Big Oil has has successfully blocked alternative energy sources: extraterrestrial assistance!    Terry 

[Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-06-30 Thread Jones Beene
Michel, I am still not getting your vortex postings nor your direct cc mail - but from your recent message in the archives - all I can say in response is that I understand your point-of-view on this, but do not agree with it. Obviously, more work with better detail needs to be performed

[Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Frederick Sparber
BTW, Jed. The lagoons required around livestock operations produce copious amounts of algae year around without any odor. The CO2 produced by Anerobic bacteria synergises it the manures produce more than enough nutrients too. I've seen lagoons where the algae were so thick you could almost

[Vo]: Rooting for Wind...

2006-06-30 Thread Jones Beene
or should that homonymous pun be: routing for wind http://dai.investor.reuters.com/Article.aspx?docid=9752target=companyofthedaysrc=DAI

Re: [Vo]: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread OrionWorks
TP Sparber tpsparber wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote, Kyle R. Mcallister feels frustrated that no one responded to this message. I sympathize; no doubt he put a lot of effort into it, but I suppose people do not feel qualified to discuss the issue. I certainly cannot judge the

RE: [Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Frederick Sparber
Terry wrote, From: Sparber    There was an algae farm experiment near Roswell, NM when nearby oil was  really cheap, Aliens  contaminated it. :-)        That explains how Big Oil has successfully blocked alternative energy sources: extraterrestrial assistance!  From my experience

Re: [Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frederick Sparber wrote: BTW, Jed. The lagoons required around livestock operations produce copious amounts of algae year around without any odor. The CO2 produced by Anerobic bacteria synergises it the manures produce more than enough nutrients too. Yup. When I said if it is only 0.1%

RE: [Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Frederick Sparber
The sewage from Los Angeles could be pumped by pipeline up to that "Solar Tower site between Victorville and Barstow to cost effective algae biodiesel production, but you want to be sure it has a check valve properly installed. Fred - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber

Re: [Vo]: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Frederick Sparber
OrionWorks wrote, I wonder about the expenses involved in supplying nutrients and other raw materials that would be needed to feed the algae? The report claims: The wastes from livestock-dairy production, distillers grains from ethanol production (a travesty) and human food processing,

Re: [Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jed wrote. Frederick Sparber wrote: BTW, Jed. The lagoons required around livestock operations produce copious amounts of algae year around without any odor. The CO2 produced by Anerobic bacteria synergises it the manures produce more than enough nutrients too. Yup. When I said if

[Vo]: Is Spacetime a Superfluid?

2006-06-30 Thread hohlrauml6d
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00012DEF-46AA-1F04-BA6A80A8418 9EEDFsc=I100322 http://tinyurl.com/o52nj What makes this approach so interesting is that the behavior of condensed matter is collective. The details of individual molecules hardly matter; the system's properties emerge

[Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday June 30, 2006

2006-06-30 Thread Akira Kawasaki
-Forwarded Message- From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 30, 2006 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday June 30, 2006 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday 30 Jun 06 Washington, DC 1. NASA: DISCOVERY SET FOR LAUNCH TOMORROW, BUT JUST IN

[Vo]: Purdue clears Taleyarkhan

2006-06-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Brian Josephson reported: Folks: I have learnt that Purdue's review panel found no evidence of scientific wrong doing on Taleyarkhan's part, and are expected to issue an appropriate announcement in due course. - Jed

[VO]:Re: Is Spacetime a Superfluid

2006-06-30 Thread RC Macaulay
Terry quoted.. "What makes this approach so interesting is that the behavior of condensed matter is collective. The details of individual molecules hardly matter; the system's properties emerge from the act of aggregation. When water freezes, the molecules do not change, but the collective

[Vo]: Re: Is Spacetime a Superfluid

2006-06-30 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: RC Macaulay As close as I have ever been able to fathom the mystery is a subtle passage in the bible where the wording states... everything is held together by the power of His word. Yes. And, although I have never heard him say it, I think Grimer

Re: [Vo]: Re: Is Spacetime a Superfluid

2006-06-30 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:48:35 -0400: Hi, [snip] yet figured it all out. When that happens, I suspect the sky will roll up like a scroll. ;-) [snip] I think that's what the universe looks like as one gets swallowed up by a black hole, or more accurately I

[Vo]: Re: Is Spacetime a Superfluid

2006-06-30 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk I think that's what the universe looks like as one gets swallowed up by a black hole, or more accurately I think the whole sky appears to narrow to a single point of light. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. You are exactly right if

[Vo]: Re: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday June 30, 2006

2006-06-30 Thread hohlrauml6d
5. NONEVENT: IT'S MY LAST DAY AS DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC INFORMATION. The only title I have ever aspired to is Professor of Physics. That title has not changed, nor will What's New, nor anything else I can think of. As you know, What's New is now supported by the University of Maryland Department

Re: [Vo]: Bell, Bang and Entangle

2006-06-30 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:20:34 -0400: Hi, [snip] Here's my point (with many dancing angels): electron spin could move energy between Kansas and Oz. More if this congeals. Not that I have really read much on entanglement, but I was under the impression

Re: [Vo]: Re: Methane as fuel, recycling CO2?

2006-06-30 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Frederick Sparber's message of Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:30:40 -0600: Hi, [snip] Hydroponics gardening works that way. [snip] I suspect that such a scheme would require lots of water. Is there a variety of salt water algae that could be used so that sea water could be used as is? Regards,

[Vo]: Re: Bell, Bang and Entangle

2006-06-30 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk Actually I don't even believe that information is transferred, let alone energy. That is the claim of the standard quantum physics proponent. Let's try this: Creation of an particle anti-particle pair results in a dual vortex in the

Re: [Vo]: Re: Bell, Bang and Entangle

2006-06-30 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:16:15 -0400: Hi, [snip] -Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk Actually I don't even believe that information is transferred, let alone energy. Perhaps I should have said I don't even believe that information is