[Vo]: MWI (Many Worlds Interpretation)

2007-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A poll of 72 leading physicists conducted by the American researcher David Raub in 1995 and published in the French periodical Sciences et Avenir in January 1998 recorded that nearly 60% thought many worlds interpretation was 'true'. Paul Lowrance

[Vo]: Re: MWI (Many Worlds Interpretation)

2007-02-25 Thread Jones Beene
Paul wrote: A poll of 72 leading physicists conducted by the American researcher David Raub in 1995 and published in the French periodical Sciences et Avenir in January 1998 recorded that nearly 60% thought many worlds interpretation was 'true'. Despite true being a loaded-word, if there

Re: [Vo]: Re: MWI (Many Worlds Interpretation)

2007-02-25 Thread Philip Winestone
Or as Hui Neng said: From the first, there is nothing. P. At 11:37 AM 2/25/2007, you wrote: Paul wrote: A poll of 72 leading physicists conducted by the American researcher David Raub in 1995 and published in the French periodical Sciences et Avenir in January 1998 recorded that nearly

Re: [Vo]: Frolov update AKOIL claims 400% eff

2007-02-25 Thread Standing Bear
Looked at Alexandr Frolov's site. The magnetic free energy extractor appears for sale to be built in the 'Emirates, Bulgaria, and Slovakiawhy not in Russia and give some St Petersburgensians a good job? His site claims 400 percent efficiency, and there is quite a list of available

[Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-02-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Gnorts Vorts! While some things must remain on the QT, I was reading that TB (Bearden, not me) claims that his MEG gets cool when it's pumping power. Would any Vorts care to speculate how an OU device would take heat from the environment? Terry

Re: [Vo]: Hydrogen Outta Nowhere?

2007-02-25 Thread Standing Bear
On Friday 23 February 2007 09:59, Zell, Chris wrote: I realize that completely eliminating all contamination is difficult but if protons can be popped out of the vacuum by an arc discharge, then I think we need to take another look at the Steady State theory of the universe. This could be

Re: [Vo]: Re: Lifter electrode geometries

2007-02-25 Thread Michel Jullian
I wrote: ... If the thrust can be increased by increasing the gap distance, how large can the gap be made? As large as you wish, but if you increase the gap you must also e.g. increase the voltage and the wire-to-wire spacing, the parameters are interdependent so you must calculate them

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-02-25 Thread Jones Beene
Blast-from-the past (9 years ago): and shall we dare to revisit everyone's (especially Jed's) favorite pseud-o-U Claimant: (Joe N, not Jean L N) http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0709.htm JLN sez: The purpose of this test is to check for changes in the entropy of the (Newman) Machine Side

[Vo]: ions and air

2007-02-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Michel Jullian wrote: - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters ... ...Sigmond's derivation for the lifter thrust (or rather it's opposite namely the force exerted

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-02-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/25/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or whatever (after all JNL's lab is on the premises of EDF) ...and also that if not an antenna, then the temperature drop, small as it was, was proof of negentropy - and very likely to have been related to ZPE extraction. Yes, this is where

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-02-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/25/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/25/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or whatever (after all JNL's lab is on the premises of EDF) ...and also that if not an antenna, then the temperature drop, small as it was, was proof of negentropy - and very likely to have

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-02-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/25/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is where I was heading. If one can extract from Dirac's sea of negative energy, you must provide the heat of evaporation. Could the electron's magnet moment be just the sort of pump required? My fingers are not completely

[Vo]: Re: ions and air

2007-02-25 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: [Vo]: ions and air ... I reread this and now I find something else perplexing. How do the ions manage to make their way to the lower electrode if

Re: [Vo]: Frolov update AKOIL claims 400% eff

2007-02-25 Thread Michel Jullian
Before sending along the 600 million Euros, I would Google up: Frolov fraud just in case. Michel - Original Message - From: Standing Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]: Frolov update AKOIL claims 400% eff Looked

Re: [Vo]: Re: ions and air

2007-02-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Michel Jullian wrote: - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: [Vo]: ions and air ... I reread this and now I find something else perplexing. How do the ions manage to make their

[Vo]: lifter in a accelerating frame

2007-02-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Imagine a lifter is hanging from a thread without any power. Immediately after the thread is cut the power is turned on. Would you get a different value for the force on the ions if you did the calculation from the beginning in an accelerating frame of reference? Harry

[Vo]: Re: lifter in a accelerating frame

2007-02-25 Thread Michel Jullian
Doing calculations in an accelerating frame makes me sick I am afraid ;-) But I guess it would be the same force, since it's not a ficticious one like e.g. the centrifugal force. My turn to give you some homework Harry, could you try the new multiwire-plane design guide I posted earlier today

Re: [Vo]: Re: lifter in a accelerating frame

2007-02-25 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:27:04 +0100: Hi Michel, [snip] Doing calculations in an accelerating frame makes me sick I am afraid ;-) But I guess it would be the same force, since it's not a ficticious one like e.g. the centrifugal force. My turn to give you some